Like many when the virus hit our overseas trip to Vietnam and Cambodia was cancelled. Its starting to look like you've done a fair bit of dough. However, looking forward I'm thinking will we ever travel overseas again? I think it'll be about 2 years before it's safe. Had planned 3 or 4.
What are people thinking of doing, overseas trips or not bothering and stick with traveling around OZ?
Tony Bev said
05:48 PM Jan 21, 2021
I read recently that an Australian health official, said that they doubted if the external border would be fully open, this year 2021
I never kept a link, as it was about people in the tourist industry complaining
I assume that it can be googled, for any who wish to know the full story
I think that future overseas travel, (for me as a tourist), is just not on my radar any more
I look at the worst scenario, hoping for the best
The worst scenario could be (I hope it is not)
Vaccine not 100% effective/more mutants of virus/people selling fake Covid free cards/some countries putting wealth before health/etc
I can visualise our external border closing very quickly, during any new health crises
I would much prefer to be stuck, somewhere in Australia, instead of overseas
Whenarewethere said
06:04 PM Jan 21, 2021
& confirm travel insurance before signing for your trip.
oldbloke said
06:06 PM Jan 21, 2021
Tony Bev wrote:
I read recently that an Australian health official, said that they doubted if the external border would be fully open, this year 2021
I never kept a link, as it was about people in the tourist industry complaining
I assume that it can be googled, for any who wish to know the full story
I think that future overseas travel, (for me as a tourist), is just not on my radar any more
I look at the worst scenario, hoping for the best
The worst scenario could be (I hope it is not) Vaccine not 100% effective/more mutants of virus/people selling fake Covid free cards/some countries putting wealth before health/etc
I can visualise our external border closing very quickly, during any new health crises
I would much prefer to be stuck, somewhere in Australia, instead of overseas
Very important point.
JeffRae said
06:15 PM Jan 21, 2021
"& confirm travel insurance before signing for your trip."
No point in having insurance with clauses like this :-
We will not pay for (under Section 2.3 or 2.5) caused by: 1. an Epidemic, Pandemic or outbreak of an infectious disease or any derivative or mutation of such viruses, or the threat or perceived threat of any of these
the rocket said
06:58 PM Jan 21, 2021
oldbloke wrote:
Like many when the virus hit our overseas trip to Vietnam and Cambodia was cancelled. Its starting to look like you've done a fair bit of dough. However, looking forward I'm thinking will we ever travel overseas again? I think it'll be about 2 years before it's safe. Had planned 3 or 4.
What are people thinking of doing, overseas trips or not bothering and stick with traveling around OZ?
Hello old bloke, we setoff to travel around australia 5 years ago. 8 weeks in strop was diagnosed with cancer. Major surgery, chemo so we stayed put About a year. Then 5 years worth of regular checkups Etc. we got as far north as mossman, as far west as winton and as far south as great ocean road. was starting to plan our round australia trip again , i broke my leg and ankle with steal plate n 10 pins and its a long recovery. Covid struck. Strop got all clear recently. So happy about that. I doubt we will ever do that trip now. Just be happy to do shorter trips. You can find joy everywhere. No need to travel overseas or around a australia. Happiness n joy will b found if you look for it. Life is good no matter where we are. Enjoy rocket
Dougwe said
07:27 PM Jan 21, 2021
I have been OS 4 times now and each time find something new in Tassie.
No need to go anywhere else, there is heaps of great stuff here in OZ.
Keep Safe on the roads and out there.
Craig1 said
07:43 PM Jan 21, 2021
I resemble that Chief. Where are you Blaze
JayDee said
07:46 PM Jan 21, 2021
Dougwe wrote:
I have been OS 4 times now and each time find something new in Tassie.
No need to go anywhere else, there is heaps of great stuff here in OZ.
Keep Safe on the roads and out there.
Hi Doug, Yes mate never a better appraisal. I agree that it is better to spend time touring this great country that we love.
On "who want to be a millionaire" 90% of the contestants say they want to travel overseas.
I say support your local country first and foremost.
Again just my view folks.
Jay&Dee
bgt said
07:50 PM Jan 21, 2021
There are 100's even 1000's of Australians who have RVs, cabins, 2nd homes overseas etc etc and they are stuck here. How do they maintain those assets? Sooner or later the international borders have to open. Vaccine won't stop the spread of covid. No vaccine has even said it would. So we have to find ways to maintain, control and live with covid.
Heck we can't even plan interstate travel. What hope have we got of planning an overseas holiday?
Tourism is a dying industry.
Mariner30 said
08:14 PM Jan 21, 2021
Tony Bev wrote:
I read recently that an Australian health official, said that they doubted if the external border would be fully open, this year 2021
I never kept a link, as it was about people in the tourist industry complaining
I assume that it can be googled, for any who wish to know the full story
I would much prefer to be stuck, somewhere in Australia, instead of overseas
Was the chief medical honcho
Brendan Murphy, l think his name is
We won't be going overseas now...thanks to the plague and our medium risk status...neither of us can sit in a plane for more than 4 hours according to the docs,
I also think l've pushed my luck health wise too many times now to risk getting caught up in some overseas health system, where a foreigner's health isn't high on the list
Whenarewethere said
08:15 PM Jan 21, 2021
Have been to Tassie 5 times. In 1992 went on the Sea Cat. Went on the same Sea Cat across the English Channel & a hover craft a long time ago.
-- Edited by Whenarewethere on Thursday 21st of January 2021 08:18:22 PM
We have relatives in England & Europe. Ironically my cousin married an Australian girl, she is living in England & their English born daughter is in Brisbane studying!
Other half flies to Germany almost every year to see relatives for many months at a time. 2019 I went overseas to Tassie to see relatives & later drove from Sydney to Perth to collect other half from airport.
These days we walk the streets!
Cupie said
08:38 PM Jan 21, 2021
We feel fortunate in that we have done a fair bit of OS travel .. Eng, Ire, Scotland, Western Europe including such as France, Germany Holland?, Greece, Italy, and lots more, plus China, Singapore & a bit of the US including Hawaii, not forgetting NZ, Tas & Norfolk Is.
Very little when you compare notes with others of our demographic. All of ours felt like 'A taste of ... ' Just enough for you to want to return for longer to really experience the places.
Never done a cruise except for an overnight from Greece to Italy & have no interest in doing another. Just as well perhaps.
SWMBO would love to do more but at age 80 for me, insurance, health & mobility become issues.
I think that we will be content with a few more years of caravanning around Qld and down the East Coast with longer stop overs rather than touring. We may have to restrict our o'seas trips to Straddy, Moreton & Bribie .... LOL.
More than happy with our lot & convinced that our societies will eventually overcome Covid19, with perhaps a new sort of tourism becoming the norm.
Mariner30 said
10:00 PM Jan 21, 2021
bgt wrote:
There are 100's even 1000's of Australians who have RVs, cabins, 2nd homes overseas etc etc and they are stuck here. How do they maintain those assets?
The same way locals maintain their interstate holiday assets here...they pay someone local to do it.
It ain't rocket surgery.
Whenarewethere said
10:12 PM Jan 21, 2021
We have a friend who chases summer every 6 months between England & Australia for both her homes & does her own maintenance. Currently stuck in England!
bgt said
10:17 PM Jan 21, 2021
Mariner30 you have no idea do you? Try maintaining an rv in the USA and getting annual registration inspections from over seas.
Mariner30 said
05:39 AM Jan 22, 2021
No.
I'm not smart enough to buy a RV in a foreign country and then complain that it is hard to keep the thing registered or the tyres balanced or rotated or the drink holders lubricated per the service manual.
Surely the Clever People who bought these RV's in foreign lands did think about how they were going to keep the wiper washer bottle full before they bought the thing.
Too hard to do it now?
Get rid of it or stop moaning about it.
I don't think the Federal Govt needs to worry too much about that situation.
I'd rather they keep focusing on a cure for Covid
Whenarewethere said
06:33 AM Jan 22, 2021
We owned a car in Germany & it is a pain when you do not live there permanently. Difficult to sell if you are not there plus insurance issues.
Let's no get onto the issue of deceased estates from a foreign location. They should have been smart enough to stay alive.
dorian said
07:08 AM Jan 22, 2021
What if tour operators were to offer cruises where the tourists and crew never disembarked, except at Australian ports?
Whenarewethere said
07:39 AM Jan 22, 2021
& never leaves 12 nautical miles off the coast.
The Belmont Bear said
07:59 AM Jan 22, 2021
For me the 2 most relevent points from previous posts -
"I would much prefer to be stuck, somewhere in Australia, instead of overseas"
"the risk of getting caught up in some overseas health system"
I was part of a team working in South Africa when covid started to become an issue, the Australian Govt. had just put out a warning for all Australians to get home before international travel ceased. In emergency meetings these 2 points were the major concerns brought up by the team especially knowing that if the virus got a hold in South Africa the health system wouldn't be able to cope. To their credit the company moved heaven and earth to get us out and even though we had to do a bit of driving to find an airport operating domestic flights we managed we got home a couple of days before the compulsory hotel quarantine came into effect. When we left South Africa there had only been 9 positive tests - Australia had over a hundred and the number was quickly rising mainly due to that Sydney cruise ship fiasco.
Since we left I have been following the evolution of the virus in South Africa because not only do I have friends over there but going back to complete the project would rely on the pandemic being under control. Yesterday SA reported more than 1.3 million cases and over 38,000 deaths had occured so far, there has been a mutant strain found and they have run out of caskets and places to bury people in some parts of the country. That feeling of being completely helpless, stranded and reliant on a suspect health system is not something that I am in a hurry to experience again.
Maybe I've been traumatised but I for one will not be travelling abroad or even interstate until the virus has been controlled, governments have shown us a number of times that are ready to slam their borders shut without notice. At the moment "I would prefer to be stuck here at home in NSW rather than somewhere else".
BB
bgt said
08:36 AM Jan 22, 2021
Mariner30 do you really believe what you are saying?
"Surely the Clever People who bought these RV's in foreign lands did think about how they were going to keep the wiper washer bottle full before they bought the thing." And you knew that covid was coming and they didn't!
Really I've seen some selfish dumb comments of forums but this has to at the top of the pile.
Wanda said
09:01 AM Jan 22, 2021
bgt wrote:
Mariner30 do you really believe what you are saying?
"Surely the Clever People who bought these RV's in foreign lands did think about how they were going to keep the wiper washer bottle full before they bought the thing." And you knew that covid was coming and they didn't!
Really I've seen some selfish dumb comments of forums but this has to at the top of the pile.
A bit like some of your comments Mr High and mighty, is that your phone ringing? I think its Craig Kelly calling..
Ian
-- Edited by Wanda on Friday 22nd of January 2021 09:22:02 AM
Old and Grey said
09:11 AM Jan 22, 2021
oldbloke wrote:
Like many when the virus hit our overseas trip to Vietnam and Cambodia was cancelled. Its starting to look like you've done a fair bit of dough. However, looking forward I'm thinking will we ever travel overseas again? I think it'll be about 2 years before it's safe. Had planned 3 or 4.
What are people thinking of doing, overseas trips or not bothering and stick with traveling around OZ?
Hi Oldbloke,
We did both of the above with our daughter last January. Great trip.
The costs of air travel here after, will stop many in their tracks alone.
I took old on the trip of a lifetime in 2018 through England, and Europe after we had retired. She loved every minute of every day. She would love to go back.
I hope that one day, I can make this happen again for her. She is the best.
Grey
Whenarewethere said
09:48 AM Jan 22, 2021
The government did say come home but the government also said if you have a secure job and accommodation, stay put. Peoples situations have changed.
The situation now is a bit like the old Ghan joke:
A lady asked the train driver, when is the train going to arrive as I am pregnant.
The driver said, you should not have got on the train pregnant.
She said, when I got on the train I was not pregnant!
Mariner30 said
09:49 AM Jan 22, 2021
Bgt
If you think mainstream Australia gives a hoot about how bad of a time your RV is having in the US you are terribly mistaken, given the present climate with folk dying all over the planet,
Including more than 400K in the US.
l think you should worry about that yourself or do you think the Govt shoukd send a SWAT team to retrieve it for you?
Just sell the thing.
Get over yourself as well
bgt said
11:07 AM Jan 22, 2021
Mariner30 when you attack someone for having some form of sympathy for others you have lost all credibility.
And for other to use a certain political figure as a point in a debate all I can say is that your political view is clouding any sense of an open discussion.
Mariner30 said
11:51 AM Jan 22, 2021
I have no idea what you are on about but you've had a long time now to divest yourself of your RV.
You really should flog it off,
Specially if it is in a storage yard, costing a considerable amount money each month etc etc
No-one knows when you will be able to enter the US, how much that will cost YOU in quarantine charges, either there or here, if you can even come back within your preferred time frame. ( not likely )
When do you... realistically... think your going to able to use it again?
Paying that much money out for so long and not being able to even touch it just seems a complete waste of your time and money.
Who knows, you may even make some money on it.
But it's your money Ralph.
Wanda said
12:58 PM Jan 22, 2021
bgt wrote:
Mariner30 when you attack someone for having some form of sympathy for others you have lost all credibility. And for other to use a certain political figure as a point in a debate all I can say is that your political view is clouding any sense of an open discussion.
I think the last line is in reference to me, on that note.
It has absoluetly nothing to do with politics, mine or whatever yours are.
It is all about nutters and their conspiracy theories, I think we are all/most of us sick of hearing about them, absolute oxygen thieves.
Like many when the virus hit our overseas trip to Vietnam and Cambodia was cancelled. Its starting to look like you've done a fair bit of dough. However, looking forward I'm thinking will we ever travel overseas again? I think it'll be about 2 years before it's safe. Had planned 3 or 4.
What are people thinking of doing, overseas trips or not bothering and stick with traveling around OZ?
I never kept a link, as it was about people in the tourist industry complaining
I assume that it can be googled, for any who wish to know the full story
I think that future overseas travel, (for me as a tourist), is just not on my radar any more
I look at the worst scenario, hoping for the best
The worst scenario could be (I hope it is not)
Vaccine not 100% effective/more mutants of virus/people selling fake Covid free cards/some countries putting wealth before health/etc
I can visualise our external border closing very quickly, during any new health crises
I would much prefer to be stuck, somewhere in Australia, instead of overseas
& confirm travel insurance before signing for your trip.
Very important point.
"& confirm travel insurance before signing for your trip."
No point in having insurance with clauses like this :-
We will not pay for (under Section 2.3 or 2.5) caused by:
1. an Epidemic, Pandemic or outbreak of an infectious
disease or any derivative or mutation of such viruses, or
the threat or perceived threat of any of these
Hello old bloke, we setoff to travel around australia 5 years ago. 8 weeks in strop was diagnosed with cancer. Major surgery, chemo so we stayed put About a year. Then 5 years worth of regular checkups Etc. we got as far north as mossman, as far west as winton and as far south as great ocean road. was starting to plan our round australia trip again , i broke my leg and ankle with steal plate n 10 pins and its a long recovery. Covid struck. Strop got all clear recently. So happy about that. I doubt we will ever do that trip now. Just be happy to do shorter trips. You can find joy everywhere. No need to travel overseas or around a australia. Happiness n joy will b found if you look for it. Life is good no matter where we are. Enjoy rocket
No need to go anywhere else, there is heaps of great stuff here in OZ.
Keep Safe on the roads and out there.
Hi Doug, Yes mate never a better appraisal. I agree that it is better to spend time touring this great country that we love.
On "who want to be a millionaire" 90% of the contestants say they want to travel overseas.
I say support your local country first and foremost.
Again just my view folks.
Jay&Dee
Have been to Tassie 5 times. In 1992 went on the Sea Cat. Went on the same Sea Cat across the English Channel & a hover craft a long time ago.
-- Edited by Whenarewethere on Thursday 21st of January 2021 08:18:22 PM
We have relatives in England & Europe. Ironically my cousin married an Australian girl, she is living in England & their English born daughter is in Brisbane studying!
Other half flies to Germany almost every year to see relatives for many months at a time. 2019 I went overseas to Tassie to see relatives & later drove from Sydney to Perth to collect other half from airport.
These days we walk the streets!
We feel fortunate in that we have done a fair bit of OS travel .. Eng, Ire, Scotland, Western Europe including such as France, Germany Holland?, Greece, Italy, and lots more, plus China, Singapore & a bit of the US including Hawaii, not forgetting NZ, Tas & Norfolk Is.
Very little when you compare notes with others of our demographic. All of ours felt like 'A taste of ... ' Just enough for you to want to return for longer to really experience the places.
Never done a cruise except for an overnight from Greece to Italy & have no interest in doing another. Just as well perhaps.
SWMBO would love to do more but at age 80 for me, insurance, health & mobility become issues.
I think that we will be content with a few more years of caravanning around Qld and down the East Coast with longer stop overs rather than touring. We may have to restrict our o'seas trips to Straddy, Moreton & Bribie .... LOL.
More than happy with our lot & convinced that our societies will eventually overcome Covid19, with perhaps a new sort of tourism becoming the norm.
We have a friend who chases summer every 6 months between England & Australia for both her homes & does her own maintenance. Currently stuck in England!
We owned a car in Germany & it is a pain when you do not live there permanently. Difficult to sell if you are not there plus insurance issues.
Let's no get onto the issue of deceased estates from a foreign location. They should have been smart enough to stay alive.
& never leaves 12 nautical miles off the coast.
For me the 2 most relevent points from previous posts -
"I would much prefer to be stuck, somewhere in Australia, instead of overseas"
"the risk of getting caught up in some overseas health system"
I was part of a team working in South Africa when covid started to become an issue, the Australian Govt. had just put out a warning for all Australians to get home before international travel ceased. In emergency meetings these 2 points were the major concerns brought up by the team especially knowing that if the virus got a hold in South Africa the health system wouldn't be able to cope. To their credit the company moved heaven and earth to get us out and even though we had to do a bit of driving to find an airport operating domestic flights we managed we got home a couple of days before the compulsory hotel quarantine came into effect. When we left South Africa there had only been 9 positive tests - Australia had over a hundred and the number was quickly rising mainly due to that Sydney cruise ship fiasco.
Since we left I have been following the evolution of the virus in South Africa because not only do I have friends over there but going back to complete the project would rely on the pandemic being under control. Yesterday SA reported more than 1.3 million cases and over 38,000 deaths had occured so far, there has been a mutant strain found and they have run out of caskets and places to bury people in some parts of the country. That feeling of being completely helpless, stranded and reliant on a suspect health system is not something that I am in a hurry to experience again.
Maybe I've been traumatised but I for one will not be travelling abroad or even interstate until the virus has been controlled, governments have shown us a number of times that are ready to slam their borders shut without notice. At the moment "I would prefer to be stuck here at home in NSW rather than somewhere else".
BB
"Surely the Clever People who bought these RV's in foreign lands did think about how they were going to keep the wiper washer bottle full before they bought the thing." And you knew that covid was coming and they didn't!
Really I've seen some selfish dumb comments of forums but this has to at the top of the pile.
A bit like some of your comments Mr High and mighty, is that your phone ringing? I think its Craig Kelly calling..
Ian
-- Edited by Wanda on Friday 22nd of January 2021 09:22:02 AM
Hi Oldbloke,
We did both of the above with our daughter last January. Great trip.
The costs of air travel here after, will stop many in their tracks alone.
I took old on the trip of a lifetime in 2018 through England, and Europe after we had retired. She loved every minute of every day. She would love to go back.
I hope that one day, I can make this happen again for her. She is the best.
Grey
The government did say come home but the government also said if you have a secure job and accommodation, stay put. Peoples situations have changed.
The situation now is a bit like the old Ghan joke:
A lady asked the train driver, when is the train going to arrive as I am pregnant.
The driver said, you should not have got on the train pregnant.
She said, when I got on the train I was not pregnant!
You really should flog it off,
Specially if it is in a storage yard, costing a considerable amount money each month etc etc
No-one knows when you will be able to enter the US, how much that will cost YOU in quarantine charges, either there or here, if you can even come back within your preferred time frame. ( not likely )
When do you... realistically... think your going to able to use it again?
Paying that much money out for so long and not being able to even touch it just seems a complete waste of your time and money.
Who knows, you may even make some money on it.
But it's your money Ralph.
I think the last line is in reference to me, on that note.
It has absoluetly nothing to do with politics, mine or whatever yours are.
It is all about nutters and their conspiracy theories, I think we are all/most of us sick of hearing about them, absolute oxygen thieves.
If the cap fits, enjoy wearing it.
regards
Ian