I note that the bastard who ran that couple off the road at Mansfield has turned himself in. Ten years would not be enough, these people are potential killers and should be treated as such. Would that I was the Magistrate hearing the case!!!!
It just goes to show folks that everytime we venture out on the roads we are at risk of serious injury or, at worst, death at the hands of these uncaring morons. Try to stay safe out there, thats about all we can do and I sincerely hope that the couple involved survive, and the Moggy.
It ceases to amaze me why the speed some people have to go when towing whatever. We come back today from the South Coast towing today our empty trailer. I have said before I do not speed, remain well within the speed limit because I can't afford fines. But it still ceases to still amaze me how many vans passed us today who had to be 110 plus to get away from us. One single axle, very new caravan was wobbling all over the place, very close to tail wag and I did speed up somewhat to get away from him. Didn't want to sit behind him in case something happened. This was on the Hume Hwy southbound My rant finished now. Sincerely hope this elderly couple come out the other side of this ok
-- Edited by Southern Cruizer on Friday 5th of March 2021 06:31:00 PM
JayDee said
07:40 PM Mar 5, 2021
A huge percentage of caravan travellers are most like retired and just out and about touring.
Why they have to speed is beyond my understanding.
As I have typed many times, if our rig climbs above 90 k's I ease of the pedal.
The scary issue is the number of single-axle vans that overtake us doing I am guessing around 100k's plus.
After all, as I said you are most likely retired or on holidays.
Jay&Dee
Slow down and enjoy the scenery and the company in the rig with you.
Aus-Kiwi said
07:56 PM Mar 5, 2021
I must admit I get on it in in my cars ! But in Motorhome with big wide windscreen I just cruise 90
- 100kph and enjoy the view . Just look at the world !! Going by ! No rush if I feel
tired I just stop, maybe for the night ? Its not a race !! I think some like to pass on the passing lanes etc .
Greg 1 said
09:35 PM Mar 5, 2021
WA has a blanket limit of 100 kph when towing anything.
Out on some of the long stretches in this state, 100ks is a reasonable pace to cover ground provided your rig and your ability are up to it. It's generally what I sit on when the road and weather conditions allow.
If it's wet or windy then I am significantly slower, as I am if the road is either twisty, rough or narrow.
Snippy said
03:46 AM Mar 6, 2021
JayDee wrote:
A huge percentage of caravan travellers are most like retired and just out and about touring. Why they have to speed is beyond my understanding. As I have typed many times, if our rig climbs above 90 k's I ease of the pedal.
The scary issue is the number of single-axle vans that overtake us doing I am guessing around 100k's plus. After all, as I said you are most likely retired or on holidays.
Jay&Dee
Slow down and enjoy the scenery and the company in the rig with you.
It wasn't the caravanner that was speeding. It was some idiot overtaking them. Ran them off the road.
gdayjr said
07:46 AM Mar 6, 2021
In NSW you CAN tow a caravan at the posted speed limit if your car and caravan weigh less than 4.5 tonne but if its more than this than the limit is 100 km/h
How many rigs weigh less than 4.5 Tonne?
Tony LEE said
08:21 AM Mar 6, 2021
Amazing! Posts here make the point that travelling below the speed limit is OK, but it is far more usual for people to be criticising those who don't travel at the speed limit because it is somehow dangerous. Can't be safer and more dangerous at the same time.
bgt said
10:02 AM Mar 6, 2021
Everyone here seems to know the facts and therefore come to a conclusion. Police have let the other driver go without charge. Yes they may follow up with charges. But a kangaroo court here on this forum have jumped to all sorts of conclusions. Can't you all see how easy it is to judge people based on one or two news reports. Can't you all see that you have to zip your lip until all the fact come out?
Magnarc said
02:00 PM Mar 6, 2021
So Bruce, who forced the van off the road?????? Some of your views are at odds with the facts to say the least. There are so many witnesses to this crash.
Mansfield Police issued the following statement....
"Investigators believe that a black Toyota Landcruiser towing a bright green ski boat on a black trailer overtook the couples silver Subaru Forrester on the Mansfield/ Woods Point Road about 11.15am.
It is believed that the the driver of the Toyota clipped the 73 yr old man and 71 yr old woman in their car forcing them off the road when their vehicle and caravan burst into flames."
Where do you think that this information came from Bruce?? Dare I say witnesses?. Having read most of your posts since you arrived on the scene in 2019, I have to say that your "logic" at times, leaves a lot to be desired. I note that you feel compelled to post on almost every topic, I can only conclude from this that you have far too much time on your hands.
No further comment.
bgt said
03:18 PM Mar 6, 2021
So why may I ask have they not yet laid charges if it's so cut and dry? Witnesses need to be tested. It's not as black and white as you seem to think it is. Remember the presumption of innocence?
My logic is only a problem to those who don't agree with it. Besides i didn't realise there was a limit on how many comments one could make on these forum.
Or maybe I should just agree with everyone else regardless!
peter67 said
05:43 PM Mar 6, 2021
I wish the elderly couple well and hope that they recover quickly AND are not put off going caravanning again assuming that even with insurance, and perhaps no fault on their part, they will still incur monetary costs to themselves. No matter what cover you have you always come up short in time and money, and if it's proven you are not at your fault it's a bitter pill to swallow. Dash cams can eliminate a lot of he said she said, I'm betting there is some footage that is being examined if there were so many witnesses. I've fitted a little garmin mini dash cam. Two of my brothers have been driving large semi's most of their lives and tell me a lot of truckers are now fitting them not just so they look forward but hanging them off mirrors etc facing rearwards.
Greg 1 I think in WA according to the law you are not supposed to travel slower than 10%(unless towing or some other mandated reason) of the posted limit, it's a finable offence particularly for right line huggers on dual carriage ways in the city. I've been guilty many times in younger days of fuming while stuck behind a long line of cars following an old camper bus towing a small 4x4 as well, and struggling to average 80kph in a 110kph zone on busy long weekend getaways, especially when we got to a slight hill and now we are all doing 50kph. Now I'm only guilty :) of raging at people who tow double horse floats at 80 to 90kph on single lane country highways with V8 land cruisers and long lines of traffic behind them...guess what a lot of them do when a specially made and signposted overtaking lane comes up?
ps does being a keyboard warrior and road raging have anything in common?
pps what laws in the eastern states relate to minimum speeds on busy 110kph roads over there
I wish the elderly couple well and hope that they recover quickly AND are not put off going caravanning again assuming that even with insurance, and perhaps no fault on their part, they will still incur monetary costs to themselves. No matter what cover you have you always come up short in time and money, and if it's proven you are not at your fault it's a bitter pill to swallow. Dash cams can eliminate a lot of he said she said, I'm betting there is some footage that is being examined if there were so many witnesses. I've fitted a little garmin mini dash cam. Two of my brothers have been driving large semi's most of their lives and tell me a lot of truckers are now fitting them not just so they look forward but hanging them off mirrors etc facing rearwards.
Greg 1 I think in WA according to the law you are not supposed to travel slower than 10%(unless towing or some other mandated reason) of the posted limit, it's a finable offence particularly for right line huggers on dual carriage ways in the city. I've been guilty many times in younger days of fuming while stuck behind a long line of cars following an old camper bus towing a small 4x4 as well, and struggling to average 80kph in a 110kph zone on busy long weekend getaways, especially when we got to a slight hill and now we are all doing 50kph. Now I'm only guilty :) of raging at people who tow double horse floats at 80 to 90kph on single lane country highways with V8 Land Cruisers and long lines of traffic behind them...guess what a lot of them do when a specially made and signposted overtaking lane comes up?
ps does being a keyboard warrior and road raging have anything in common?
pps what laws in the eastern states relate to minimum speeds on busy 110kph roads over there
Peter,I have it on good authority that these vehicles travel slowly in order to give us mere mortals more time to be envious of their drivers' status?Cheers
gdayjr said
05:40 AM Mar 7, 2021
peter67 wrote:
I wish the elderly couple well and hope that they recover quickly AND are not put off going caravanning again assuming that even with insurance, and perhaps no fault on their part, they will still incur monetary costs to themselves. No matter what cover you have you always come up short in time and money, and if it's proven you are not at your fault it's a bitter pill to swallow. Dash cams can eliminate a lot of he said she said, I'm betting there is some footage that is being examined if there were so many witnesses. I've fitted a little garmin mini dash cam. Two of my brothers have been driving large semi's most of their lives and tell me a lot of truckers are now fitting them not just so they look forward but hanging them off mirrors etc facing rearwards.
Greg 1 I think in WA according to the law you are not supposed to travel slower than 10%(unless towing or some other mandated reason) of the posted limit, it's a finable offence particularly for right line huggers on dual carriage ways in the city. I've been guilty many times in younger days of fuming while stuck behind a long line of cars following an old camper bus towing a small 4x4 as well, and struggling to average 80kph in a 110kph zone on busy long weekend getaways, especially when we got to a slight hill and now we are all doing 50kph. Now I'm only guilty :) of raging at people who tow double horse floats at 80 to 90kph on single lane country highways with V8 land cruisers and long lines of traffic behind them...guess what a lot of them do when a specially made and signposted overtaking lane comes up?
ps does being a keyboard warrior and road raging have anything in common?
pps what laws in the eastern states relate to minimum speeds on busy 110kph roads over there
It is not a percentage limit, it is set at 20kph of the posted speed limit, so on a main highway with a speed limit of 110 kph, that means 90 kph etc
dogbox said
01:30 PM Mar 7, 2021
gdayjr wrote:
In NSW you CAN tow a caravan at the posted speed limit if your car and caravan weigh less than 4.5 tonne but if its more than this than the limit is 100 km/h
How many rigs weigh less than 4.5 Tonne?
might want to check those figures 4.5 ton might refer to gvm
Tony Bev said
02:16 PM Mar 7, 2021
gdayjr wrote:
peter67 wrote:
I wish the elderly couple well and hope that they recover quickly AND are not put off going caravanning again assuming that even with insurance, and perhaps no fault on their part, they will still incur monetary costs to themselves. No matter what cover you have you always come up short in time and money, and if it's proven you are not at your fault it's a bitter pill to swallow. Dash cams can eliminate a lot of he said she said, I'm betting there is some footage that is being examined if there were so many witnesses. I've fitted a little garmin mini dash cam. Two of my brothers have been driving large semi's most of their lives and tell me a lot of truckers are now fitting them not just so they look forward but hanging them off mirrors etc facing rearwards.
Greg 1 I think in WA according to the law you are not supposed to travel slower than 10%(unless towing or some other mandated reason) of the posted limit, it's a finable offence particularly for right line huggers on dual carriage ways in the city. I've been guilty many times in younger days of fuming while stuck behind a long line of cars following an old camper bus towing a small 4x4 as well, and struggling to average 80kph in a 110kph zone on busy long weekend getaways, especially when we got to a slight hill and now we are all doing 50kph. Now I'm only guilty :) of raging at people who tow double horse floats at 80 to 90kph on single lane country highways with V8 land cruisers and long lines of traffic behind them...guess what a lot of them do when a specially made and signposted overtaking lane comes up?
ps does being a keyboard warrior and road raging have anything in common?
pps what laws in the eastern states relate to minimum speeds on busy 110kph roads over there
It is not a percentage limit, it is set at 20kph of the posted speed limit, so on a main highway with a speed limit of 110 kph, that means 90 kph etc
Thanks for Peter67, and gdayir, for bringing this up
I for one, was unaware of any minimum speed limit, and I will assume that others also, may not have known this info
I would also like to hear, if there are any minimum speed limits in other States/Territories
In NSW you CAN tow a caravan at the posted speed limit if your car and caravan weigh less than 4.5 tonne but if its more than this than the limit is 100 km/h
How many rigs weigh less than 4.5 Tonne?
might want to check those figures 4.5 ton might refer to gvm
www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/safety-rules/road-rules/towing.html
If the speed limit is over 100 km/h and the driver is driving a vehicle with a GVM over 4.5 tonnes or a vehicle and trailer combination with a Gross Combination Mass (GCM) over 4.5 tonnes, the speed limit applying to the driver for the length of road is 100 km/h. Always drive to the road, traffic and weather conditions. Before each trip, check:
i will stand to be corrected applies to both GVM and to GCM
diggerop said
04:16 PM Mar 7, 2021
So on a road with 110km/h speed limit with my car & van over 4.5 tonne my speed limit is 100km/h and I can be 20km/h below the speed limit I should be able to travel at 80km/h. Not what I do but I could.
DMaxer said
05:19 PM Mar 7, 2021
I think you will find that in Western Australia there is road rule about travelling no less than 20kph under the speed limit if the limit is over 100kph. This is subject to several caveats such as conditions at the time and other prevailing circumstances.
To the best of my knowledge this does not apply in NSW even though it is in the National Road Rules. If you were tootling along at 20kph in an 80 kph zone you may well be asked for a please explain from your friendly police officer. It is not the speed or lack thereof that is the issue, it is the interference and potential danger that is the problem.
-- Edited by DMaxer on Monday 8th of March 2021 10:00:49 AM
yobarr said
05:39 PM Mar 7, 2021
dogbox wrote:
www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/safety-rules/road-rules/towing.html If the speed limit is over 100 km/h and the driver is driving a vehicle with a GVM over 4.5 tonnes or a vehicle and trailer combination with a Gross Combination Mass (GCM) over 4.5 tonnes, the speed limit applying to the driver for the length of road is 100 km/h. Always drive to the road, traffic and weather conditions. Before each trip, check:
i will stand to be corrected applies to both GVM and to GCM
Is this not what I posted below? Cheers
peter67 said
05:53 PM Mar 7, 2021
Tony Bev wrote:
gdayjr wrote:
peter67 wrote:
I wish the elderly couple well and hope that they recover quickly AND are not put off going caravanning again assuming that even with insurance, and perhaps no fault on their part, they will still incur monetary costs to themselves. No matter what cover you have you always come up short in time and money, and if it's proven you are not at your fault it's a bitter pill to swallow. Dash cams can eliminate a lot of he said she said, I'm betting there is some footage that is being examined if there were so many witnesses. I've fitted a little garmin mini dash cam. Two of my brothers have been driving large semi's most of their lives and tell me a lot of truckers are now fitting them not just so they look forward but hanging them off mirrors etc facing rearwards.
Greg 1 I think in WA according to the law you are not supposed to travel slower than 10%(unless towing or some other mandated reason) of the posted limit, it's a finable offence particularly for right line huggers on dual carriage ways in the city. I've been guilty many times in younger days of fuming while stuck behind a long line of cars following an old camper bus towing a small 4x4 as well, and struggling to average 80kph in a 110kph zone on busy long weekend getaways, especially when we got to a slight hill and now we are all doing 50kph. Now I'm only guilty :) of raging at people who tow double horse floats at 80 to 90kph on single lane country highways with V8 land cruisers and long lines of traffic behind them...guess what a lot of them do when a specially made and signposted overtaking lane comes up?
ps does being a keyboard warrior and road raging have anything in common?
pps what laws in the eastern states relate to minimum speeds on busy 110kph roads over there
It is not a percentage limit, it is set at 20kph of the posted speed limit, so on a main highway with a speed limit of 110 kph, that means 90 kph etc
Thanks for Peter67, and gdayir, for bringing this up
I for one, was unaware of any minimum speed limit, and I will assume that others also, may not have known this info
I would also like to hear, if there are any minimum speed limits in other States/Territories
Tony I've been clicking on the "yes it was" but nothing happens :) I think it's fortunate for others that I only drive an Hyundai Iload van.
dogbox said
07:28 PM Mar 7, 2021
yobarr wrote:
dogbox wrote:
www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/safety-rules/road-rules/towing.html If the speed limit is over 100 km/h and the driver is driving a vehicle with a GVM over 4.5 tonnes or a vehicle and trailer combination with a Gross Combination Mass (GCM) over 4.5 tonnes, the speed limit applying to the driver for the length of road is 100 km/h. Always drive to the road, traffic and weather conditions. Before each trip, check:
i will stand to be corrected applies to both GVM and to GCM
Is this not what I posted below? Cheers
I thought i was agreeing with you after you corrected me
yobarr said
07:30 PM Mar 7, 2021
dogbox wrote:
yobarr wrote:
dogbox wrote:
www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/safety-rules/road-rules/towing.html If the speed limit is over 100 km/h and the driver is driving a vehicle with a GVM over 4.5 tonnes or a vehicle and trailer combination with a Gross Combination Mass (GCM) over 4.5 tonnes, the speed limit applying to the driver for the length of road is 100 km/h. Always drive to the road, traffic and weather conditions. Before each trip, check:
i will stand to be corrected applies to both GVM and to GCM
Is this not what I posted below? Cheers
I thought i was agreeing with you after you corrected me
I think you will find that the minimum speed limit in WA only applies to "on a Freeway" not general roads or highways. And it only applies if traffic conditions allow
-- Edited by KM575 on Sunday 7th of March 2021 08:28:52 PM
KM575 said
08:33 PM Mar 7, 2021
Tony Bev wrote:
gdayjr wrote:
peter67 wrote:
I wish the elderly couple well and hope that they recover quickly AND are not put off going caravanning again assuming that even with insurance, and perhaps no fault on their part, they will still incur monetary costs to themselves. No matter what cover you have you always come up short in time and money, and if it's proven you are not at your fault it's a bitter pill to swallow. Dash cams can eliminate a lot of he said she said, I'm betting there is some footage that is being examined if there were so many witnesses. I've fitted a little garmin mini dash cam. Two of my brothers have been driving large semi's most of their lives and tell me a lot of truckers are now fitting them not just so they look forward but hanging them off mirrors etc facing rearwards.
Greg 1 I think in WA according to the law you are not supposed to travel slower than 10%(unless towing or some other mandated reason) of the posted limit, it's a finable offence particularly for right line huggers on dual carriage ways in the city. I've been guilty many times in younger days of fuming while stuck behind a long line of cars following an old camper bus towing a small 4x4 as well, and struggling to average 80kph in a 110kph zone on busy long weekend getaways, especially when we got to a slight hill and now we are all doing 50kph. Now I'm only guilty :) of raging at people who tow double horse floats at 80 to 90kph on single lane country highways with V8 land cruisers and long lines of traffic behind them...guess what a lot of them do when a specially made and signposted overtaking lane comes up?
ps does being a keyboard warrior and road raging have anything in common?
pps what laws in the eastern states relate to minimum speeds on busy 110kph roads over there
It is not a percentage limit, it is set at 20kph of the posted speed limit, so on a main highway with a speed limit of 110 kph, that means 90 kph etc
Thanks for Peter67, and gdayir, for bringing this up
I for one, was unaware of any minimum speed limit, and I will assume that others also, may not have known this info
I would also like to hear, if there are any minimum speed limits in other States/Territories
As it indicates above only applies "if you are travelling on a Freeway". Does not apply to general roads or highways. There is only two freeways in WA one going north out of the CBD and one going south out of the CBD, consequently of very little impact to travel within WA
Stretch60 said
01:08 AM Mar 9, 2021
Correct, and I know this because I used to police it.
I note that the bastard who ran that couple off the road at Mansfield has turned himself in. Ten years would not be enough, these people are potential killers and should be treated as such. Would that I was the Magistrate hearing the case!!!!
It just goes to show folks that everytime we venture out on the roads we are at risk of serious injury or, at worst, death at the hands of these uncaring morons. Try to stay safe out there, thats about all we can do and I sincerely hope that the couple involved survive, and the Moggy.
It ceases to amaze me why the speed some people have to go when towing whatever.
We come back today from the South Coast towing today our empty trailer. I have said before I do not speed, remain well within the speed limit because I can't afford fines.
But it still ceases to still amaze me how many vans passed us today who had to be 110 plus to get away from us. One single axle, very new caravan was wobbling all over the place, very close to tail wag and I did speed up somewhat to get away from him. Didn't want to sit behind him in case something happened. This was on the Hume Hwy southbound
My rant finished now.
Sincerely hope this elderly couple come out the other side of this ok
-- Edited by Southern Cruizer on Friday 5th of March 2021 06:31:00 PM
Why they have to speed is beyond my understanding.
As I have typed many times, if our rig climbs above 90 k's I ease of the pedal.
The scary issue is the number of single-axle vans that overtake us doing I am guessing around 100k's plus.
After all, as I said you are most likely retired or on holidays.
Jay&Dee
Slow down and enjoy the scenery and the company in the rig with you.
- 100kph and enjoy the view . Just look at the world !! Going by ! No rush if I feel
tired I just stop, maybe for the night ? Its not a race !! I think some like to pass on the passing lanes etc .
It wasn't the caravanner that was speeding. It was some idiot overtaking them. Ran them off the road.
In NSW you CAN tow a caravan at the posted speed limit if your car and caravan weigh less than 4.5 tonne but if its more than this than the limit is 100 km/h
How many rigs weigh less than 4.5 Tonne?
So Bruce, who forced the van off the road?????? Some of your views are at odds with the facts to say the least. There are so many witnesses to this crash.
Mansfield Police issued the following statement....
"Investigators believe that a black Toyota Landcruiser towing a bright green ski boat on a black trailer overtook the couples silver Subaru Forrester on the Mansfield/ Woods Point Road about 11.15am.
It is believed that the the driver of the Toyota clipped the 73 yr old man and 71 yr old woman in their car forcing them off the road when their vehicle and caravan burst into flames."
Where do you think that this information came from Bruce?? Dare I say witnesses?. Having read most of your posts since you arrived on the scene in 2019, I have to say that your "logic" at times, leaves a lot to be desired. I note that you feel compelled to post on almost every topic, I can only conclude from this that you have far too much time on your hands.
No further comment.
I wish the elderly couple well and hope that they recover quickly AND are not put off going caravanning again assuming that even with insurance, and perhaps no fault on their part, they will still incur monetary costs to themselves. No matter what cover you have you always come up short in time and money, and if it's proven you are not at your fault it's a bitter pill to swallow. Dash cams can eliminate a lot of he said she said, I'm betting there is some footage that is being examined if there were so many witnesses. I've fitted a little garmin mini dash cam. Two of my brothers have been driving large semi's most of their lives and tell me a lot of truckers are now fitting them not just so they look forward but hanging them off mirrors etc facing rearwards.
Greg 1 I think in WA according to the law you are not supposed to travel slower than 10%(unless towing or some other mandated reason) of the posted limit, it's a finable offence particularly for right line huggers on dual carriage ways in the city. I've been guilty many times in younger days of fuming while stuck behind a long line of cars following an old camper bus towing a small 4x4 as well, and struggling to average 80kph in a 110kph zone on busy long weekend getaways, especially when we got to a slight hill and now we are all doing 50kph. Now I'm only guilty :) of raging at people who tow double horse floats at 80 to 90kph on single lane country highways with V8 land cruisers and long lines of traffic behind them...guess what a lot of them do when a specially made and signposted overtaking lane comes up?
ps does being a keyboard warrior and road raging have anything in common?
pps what laws in the eastern states relate to minimum speeds on busy 110kph roads over there
Peter,I have it on good authority that these vehicles travel slowly in order to give us mere mortals more time to be envious of their drivers' status?Cheers
It is not a percentage limit, it is set at 20kph of the posted speed limit, so on a main highway with a speed limit of 110 kph, that means 90 kph etc
might want to check those figures 4.5 ton might refer to gvm
Thanks for Peter67, and gdayir, for bringing this up
I for one, was unaware of any minimum speed limit, and I will assume that others also, may not have known this info
I would also like to hear, if there are any minimum speed limits in other States/Territories
I also wish the elderly couple a speedy recovery
Snip from article
Link to article (West Australian Police)
https://www.police.wa.gov.au/FAQ?faq=Is-there-a-minimum-speed-limit&q=f3936071-2097-426d-b701-4481f4cbb9a3
If the speed limit is over 100 km/h and the driver is driving a vehicle with a GVM over 4.5 tonnes or a vehicle and trailer combination with a Gross Combination Mass (GCM) over 4.5 tonnes, the speed limit applying to the driver for the length of road is 100 km/h. Always drive to the road, traffic and weather conditions. Before each trip, check:
i will stand to be corrected applies to both GVM and to GCM
I think you will find that in Western Australia there is road rule about travelling no less than 20kph under the speed limit if the limit is over 100kph. This is subject to several caveats such as conditions at the time and other prevailing circumstances.
To the best of my knowledge this does not apply in NSW even though it is in the National Road Rules. If you were tootling along at 20kph in an 80 kph zone you may well be asked for a please explain from your friendly police officer. It is not the speed or lack thereof that is the issue, it is the interference and potential danger that is the problem.
-- Edited by DMaxer on Monday 8th of March 2021 10:00:49 AM
Is this not what I posted below? Cheers
Tony I've been clicking on the "yes it was" but nothing happens :) I think it's fortunate for others that I only drive an Hyundai Iload van.
I thought i was agreeing with you after you corrected me
All good! No worries.Cheerd
No proper extended mirrors!
Murray
I think you will find that the minimum speed limit in WA only applies to "on a Freeway" not general roads or highways. And it only applies if traffic conditions allow
-- Edited by KM575 on Sunday 7th of March 2021 08:28:52 PM
As it indicates above only applies "if you are travelling on a Freeway". Does not apply to general roads or highways. There is only two freeways in WA one going north out of the CBD and one going south out of the CBD, consequently of very little impact to travel within WA