Well I have now seen it with own eye's the police with a van coming into Roma being weight tested.
Have believed it before now that I have seen it with own eye's.
Cupie said
10:18 AM May 20, 2022
I've heard of it happening (Outside of Townsville a couple of years ago) but never seen it myself.
I sometimes wonder how I would go as it is not easy to get the towing capacity figures for my 1995 GQ Patrol. Just wonder what the numbers the police would have. (Most GQs are 2.5T but my 4.2Efi is 2.8ton. Not really a problem because the Van is 2.4T.)
Thanks for the heads up.
Radar said
12:03 PM May 20, 2022
I saw Elvis this morning be side the road waiting for a ride.
bratboy said
12:15 PM May 20, 2022
We're the scalies with them ?
Craig1 said
08:20 PM May 20, 2022
saw Elvis this morning be side the road waiting for a ride.
No, Elvis does burgers at Bethanga on Fridays
peter67 said
05:36 PM May 21, 2022
Nope, he's a cub reporter at The Betoota news.
oldbloke said
08:23 PM May 21, 2022
From what I'm hearing and seeing. Vans being weighed must be as rare as rocking horse shet.
SoloMC said
07:39 AM May 22, 2022
Your post is confusing. Was it the police towing a van into Roma being tested or were the police testing a van as it drove into Roma?
I wasn't aware the police could weigh vehicles but use the transport authorities
bratboy said
08:12 AM May 22, 2022
SoloMC wrote:
Your post is confusing. Was it the police towing a van into Roma being tested or were the police testing a van as it drove into Roma? I wasn't aware the police could weigh vehicles but use the transport authorities
Hence my question above , op hasn't been back to clarify so i call bs or what he saw and what he thinks he saw are to different things .
police do not carry scales and are not trained in there use , possibly it was one of those educational days for travellers but again op hasn't said .
-- Edited by bratboy on Sunday 22nd of May 2022 08:12:37 AM
shakey55 said
03:28 AM May 25, 2022
Cupie wrote:
I've heard of it happening (Outside of Townsville a couple of years ago) but never seen it myself.
I sometimes wonder how I would go as it is not easy to get the towing capacity figures for my 1995 GQ Patrol. Just wonder what the numbers the police would have. (Most GQs are 2.5T but my 4.2Efi is 2.8ton. Not really a problem because the Van is 2.4T.)
Thanks for the heads up.
Actual weight of your patrol loaded + passengers + tow ball weight = gvm. I think the gvm of a GQ is 2800 Empty. It should be on your rego papers
-- Edited by shakey55 on Wednesday 25th of May 2022 03:29:29 AM
Peter_n_Margaret said
09:40 AM May 25, 2022
shakey55 wrote:
Actual weight of your patrol loaded + passengers + tow ball weight = gvm. I think the gvm of a GQ is 2800 Empty. It should be on your rego papers
No.
GVM (and GCM) is a weight ratingthat may not be exceeded. It is not an actual weight.
Gross Combination Mass (GCM) is a RATING and is defined in Vehicle Standard (Australian Design Rule - Definitions and Vehicle Categories) 2005,
GROSS COMBINATION MASS - value specified for the vehicle by the Manufacturer as being the maximum of the sum of the Gross Vehicle Mass of the drawing vehicle plus the sum of the Axle Loads of any vehicle capable of being drawn as a trailer.
GCM is not as defined below which also incorrectly implies it an actual weight that can be measured:
Ken
-- Edited by kgarnett on Thursday 26th of May 2022 10:23:55 AM
Gross Combination Mass (GCM) is a RATING and is defined in Vehicle Standard (Australian Design Rule - Definitions and Vehicle Categories) 2005,
GROSS COMBINATION MASS - value specified for the vehicle by the Manufacturer as being the maximum of the sum of the Gross Vehicle Mass of the drawing vehicle plus the sum of the Axle Loads of any vehicle capable of being drawn as a trailer.
GCM is not as defined below which also incorrectly implies it an actual weight that can be measured:
Ken
Thanks Ken. Montie and I, among a few others, know about weights, and are more than happy to share our knowledge, and to help others but it does get frustrating when our advice regularly is challenged by at least one member who only thinks he knows weights, but seems to enjoy causing confusion for those members who are simply trying to learn. C'est la vie. Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Thursday 26th of May 2022 11:17:26 AM
oldbloke said
05:58 PM May 26, 2022
kgarnett wrote:
Gross Combination Mass (GCM) is a RATING and is defined in Vehicle Standard (Australian Design Rule - Definitions and Vehicle Categories) 2005,
GROSS COMBINATION MASS - value specified for the vehicle by the Manufacturer as being the maximum of the sum of the Gross Vehicle Mass of the drawing vehicle plus the sum of the Axle Loads of any vehicle capable of being drawn as a trailer.
GCM is not as defined below which also incorrectly implies it an actual weight that can be measured:
Ken
-- Edited by kgarnett on Thursday 26th of May 2022 10:23:55 AM
Umm, it doesn't imply it isn't a rating either. Does it? It's a simple definition.
Yes it is a rating. But if you weigh your van and car and add them together it is your GCM on the day, is it not? One is a rating, the other is your current GCM.
I'm not confused at all. You are.
Like I said, some just want to be heard or perhaps get clicks
oldbloke said
06:07 PM May 26, 2022
Lol. My ute has a rated GCM of 5t.
I weigh the ute = 2.5t I weigh the van = 2.0t
I add 2.5t + 2.0t = 4.5t what am I?
I think its my current GCM
Edit for typo. Thx
-- Edited by oldbloke on Thursday 26th of May 2022 07:25:14 PM
bratboy said
06:28 PM May 26, 2022
Oldbloke i think you meant GCM , better edit that before the headmaster comes back to discipline you .
Craig1 said
07:19 PM May 26, 2022
Yep OB, otherwise you may hear " the greenbottle CRACK "
yobarr said
07:51 PM May 26, 2022
oldbloke wrote:
Lol. My ute has a rated GCM of 5t.
I weigh the ute = 2.5t I weigh the van = 2.0t
I add 2.5t + 2.0t = 4.5t what am I?
I think its my current GCM
Edit for typo. Thx
-- Edited by oldbloke on Thursday 26th of May 2022 07:25:14 PM
What part of "maximum" do you not understand? Cheers.
-- Edited by yobarr on Thursday 26th of May 2022 09:51:07 PM
-- Edited by oldbloke on Thursday 26th of May 2022 07:25:14 PM
What part of "maximum" do you not understand? Cheers.
-- Edited by yobarr on Thursday 26th of May 2022 07:53:32 PM
-- Edited by yobarr on Thursday 26th of May 2022 07:58:35 PM
Pathetic, just semantics. You help nobody with this. Your just copying without thinking.
Cheers OB ;)
oldbloke said
08:10 PM May 26, 2022
oldbloke wrote:
Lol. My ute has a rated GCM of 5t.
I weigh the ute = 2.5t I weigh the van = 2.0t
I add 2.5t + 2.0t = 4.5t what am I?
I think its my current GCM
Edit for typo. Thx
-- Edited by oldbloke on Thursday 26th of May 2022 07:25:14 PM
Well, what is it?
montie said
08:59 PM May 26, 2022
oldbloke wrote:
kgarnett wrote:
Gross Combination Mass (GCM) is a RATING and is defined in Vehicle Standard (Australian Design Rule - Definitions and Vehicle Categories) 2005,
GROSS COMBINATION MASS - value specified for the vehicle by the Manufacturer as being the maximum of the sum of the Gross Vehicle Mass of the drawing vehicle plus the sum of the Axle Loads of any vehicle capable of being drawn as a trailer.
GCM is not as defined below which also incorrectly implies it an actual weight that can be measured:
Ken
-- Edited by kgarnett on Thursday 26th of May 2022 10:23:55 AM
Umm, it doesn't imply it isn't a rating either. Does it? It's a simple definition.
Yes it is a rating. But if you weigh your van and car and add them together it is your GCM on the day, is it not? One is a rating, the other is your current GCM.
I'm not confused at all. You are.
Like I said, some just want to be heard or perhaps get clicks
That is incorrect and misleading.
You are confused...if you weigh your tug and your van that is your measured weight on the day.
Your GCM rating, which cannot be weighed is as you state 5 tonne.
montie said
09:02 PM May 26, 2022
oldbloke wrote:
Well, after reading the last two posts I'm convinced some posters here only do because they want to be heard or impress.
I am curious to know what point you were endeavoring to make with that post?
Well I have now seen it with own eye's the police with a van coming into Roma being weight tested.
Have believed it before now that I have seen it with own eye's.
I've heard of it happening (Outside of Townsville a couple of years ago) but never seen it myself.
I sometimes wonder how I would go as it is not easy to get the towing capacity figures for my 1995 GQ Patrol. Just wonder what the numbers the police would have. (Most GQs are 2.5T but my 4.2Efi is 2.8ton. Not really a problem because the Van is 2.4T.)
Thanks for the heads up.
I saw Elvis this morning be side the road waiting for a ride.
No, Elvis does burgers at Bethanga on Fridays
Hence my question above , op hasn't been back to clarify so i call bs or what he saw and what he thinks he saw are to different things .
police do not carry scales and are not trained in there use , possibly it was one of those educational days for travellers but again op hasn't said .
-- Edited by bratboy on Sunday 22nd of May 2022 08:12:37 AM
Actual weight of your patrol loaded + passengers + tow ball weight = gvm. I think the gvm of a GQ is 2800 Empty. It should be on your rego papers
-- Edited by shakey55 on Wednesday 25th of May 2022 03:29:29 AM
No.
GVM (and GCM) is a weight rating that may not be exceeded. It is not an actual weight.
Cheers,
Peter
Definitions here.
GVM is not an actual weight. Since when?
As Peter says, it's a rating, not an actual weight. Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Thursday 26th of May 2022 05:58:32 AM
GVM, GCM and ATM are all ratings that must not legally be exceeded by the measured weight.
You can't weigh a rating.
Don't know where you got your "definitions" from but GCM is incorrect.
Posts like that just confuse!
I'm certainly not confused.
caravantowingguide.com.au/
Gross Combination Mass (GCM) is a RATING and is defined in Vehicle Standard (Australian Design Rule - Definitions and Vehicle Categories) 2005,
GROSS COMBINATION MASS - value specified for the vehicle by the Manufacturer as being the maximum of the sum of the Gross Vehicle Mass of the drawing vehicle plus the sum of the Axle Loads of any vehicle capable of being drawn as a trailer.
GCM is not as defined below which also incorrectly implies it an actual weight that can be measured:
Ken
-- Edited by kgarnett on Thursday 26th of May 2022 10:23:55 AM
Thanks Ken. Montie and I, among a few others, know about weights, and are more than happy to share our knowledge, and to help others but it does get frustrating when our advice regularly is challenged by at least one member who only thinks he knows weights, but seems to enjoy causing confusion for those members who are simply trying to learn. C'est la vie. Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Thursday 26th of May 2022 11:17:26 AM
Umm, it doesn't imply it isn't a rating either. Does it? It's a simple definition.
Yes it is a rating. But if you weigh your van and car and add them together it is your GCM on the day, is it not? One is a rating, the other is your current GCM.
I'm not confused at all. You are.
Like I said, some just want to be heard or perhaps get clicks
Lol.
My ute has a rated GCM of 5t.
I weigh the ute = 2.5t
I weigh the van = 2.0t
I add 2.5t + 2.0t = 4.5t what am I?
I think its my current GCM
Edit for typo. Thx
-- Edited by oldbloke on Thursday 26th of May 2022 07:25:14 PM
What part of "maximum" do you not understand? Cheers.
-- Edited by yobarr on Thursday 26th of May 2022 09:51:07 PM
Pathetic, just semantics. You help nobody with this. Your just copying without thinking.
Cheers OB ;)
Well, what is it?
That is incorrect and misleading.
You are confused...if you weigh your tug and your van that is your measured weight on the day.
Your GCM rating, which cannot be weighed is as you state 5 tonne.
I am curious to know what point you were endeavoring to make with that post?