With the current violence that seem to be escalating in Alice, can anyone advise ona safe caravan park to stay at for our stop over in 2 weeks tim?
cheers,
Mark
Xyz said
10:44 AM Jan 28, 2023
Most of them are ok, Big 4 very good but expensive, Gidday Mate is good, not sure why but not a big fan of Hertage. Just be aware of and keep your eyes open, use a bit of common sense knowing what the enviroment is like at the moment.
More importantly, enjoy yourself with what tha Alice and the area offers
Cheers and stay safe
Ian G said
10:50 AM Jan 28, 2023
We were there in July last year for the AFL game, stayed at the G Day Mate caravan park which had keypad entry after 6pm and found it excellent, went to all the local attractions including the AFL game, did our shopping at Woolworths in the CBD, went to several bottle shops and didn't notice any trouble at all, did notice a few groups of locals in certain areas which we avoided. Ian
pcdc said
11:18 AM Jan 28, 2023
Hi
The show ground is usually available and is far enough out of town that most "trouble makers" wont go there.
Hope that helps you
Peter
86GTS said
11:25 AM Jan 28, 2023
We flew up there for a week, hired a 4x4 camper & spent most of the time in the MacDonnell Ranges.
We went to Anzac Hill for an overall view, walked around Olive Pink Botanic Gardens & checked out the CBD.
Unless you want to buy a souvenir Didgeridoo made in China its just like any other rural town.
If we were passing through with our caravan we'd buy fuel, gas, fill up with water, buy groceries & head out to a campsite at least 50kms out of town.
That's our usual routine in trouble spots.
One of us stays with our rig while the other one shops.
The "locals" usually hover around looking for an opportunity but they've never touched it.
travelyounger said
12:17 PM Jan 28, 2023
Truck museum is a good quite place and half the price about 6 km away from all the riff raff
Cheers
Cuppa said
02:20 PM Jan 28, 2023
If you wanted to base yourself out of town to explorer the east & west Macdonnells there are possibilities on both sides of town. Ross River Homestead in the East & Glen Helen in the West. The campgrounds at Palm Valley & Ormiston Gorge are NP sites & are also good camp spots to base yourself, with showers & toilets but not sure that they would have powered sites though. When we last stayed in Alice Springs itself we stayed in the Showgrounds, but I think they may only open as an overflow site when all the other CP's are full. It was quiet & peaceful there.
RickJ said
03:21 PM Jan 28, 2023
mark gardiner wrote:
Hey,
With the current violence that seem to be escalating in Alice, can anyone advise ona safe caravan park to stay at for our stop over in 2 weeks tim?
cheers,
Mark
Hi Mark
I have good friends that currently live in Alice Springs and they are quoting that it is the worst that Alice has ever been for violent crime.
Great to ask questions of travellers and tap into their knowledge however most travellers unless actually there today are quoting only history to answer your enquiry.
I worked for a short time in Alice some 6 years ago and some of the stated camp areas can be good or at least could be when I was there.
The current problem is of national concern and you might be well advised to take every precaution. It has been very recently proven that it is not safe even when in numbers in a supermarket.
Be very vigilant. Watch your belongings even items like handbags. You can lose petrol of a night. Diesel is not as much of a worry. If it is not secured there will be a good chance that it wont be yours any longer.
Here is the comments from the Mayor from only 20 hours ago.
Unfortunately Mike your summary may be very sound advice.
Xyz said
04:48 PM Jan 28, 2023
Slightly over the top, just take care when visiting and keep things locked up. It sounds as if a "lot" of the trouble is at night, l think most of us oldies are all tucked away at those times, again if out and about late, take care As far as avoiding totally, a bit hard to do if your travelling up that way?
-- Edited by Xyz on Saturday 28th of January 2023 04:49:15 PM
Plain Truth said
05:20 PM Jan 28, 2023
Never thought I would agree with the "(D.I.D.)" twins,but i think it is being made out a lot worse than it is.
DMaxer said
05:45 PM Jan 28, 2023
I have been to most places in the NT and spent years living there off and on. All of Darwin, Katherine, Tennant Creek and Alice Springs, all the little places like Elliott, Timber Creek, all the residential and commercial sites have big cyclone fences, big gates and big dogs. The social problem has been there for decades.
What is happening is not new. It is a symptom of what has been deteriorating for years. It needs to be addressed and it has to be inclusive. If not, give it a few more years and it will be happening in many more places.
It won't be fixed in a short time. It took years to bring it to this but we need to start the process.
86GTS said
06:56 PM Jan 28, 2023
DMaxer wrote:
I have been to most places in the NT and spent years living there off and on. All of Darwin, Katherine, Tennant Creek and Alice Springs, all the little places like Elliott, Timber Creek, all the residential and commercial sites have big cyclone fences, big gates and big dogs. The social problem has been there for decades.
What is happening is not new. It is a symptom of what has been deteriorating for years. It needs to be addressed and it has to be inclusive. If not, give it a few more years and it will be happening in many more places.
It won't be fixed in a short time. It took years to bring it to this but we need to start the process.
Sensible post. From our experience of travelling to most corners of our country we have experienced these problems over many years.
The best policy is to avoid these "hot spots" if possible but if you can't, spend minimal time in them while staying vigilant.
We spend most of our time camped out in the bush, it's a lot safer & far more interesting.
A few weeks spent camping in a location with no other human contact & no kind of phone/internet connection is therapeutic for the soul.
In the middle of nowhere but in the centre of it all.
travelyounger said
08:32 PM Jan 28, 2023
86GTS wrote:
DMaxer wrote:
I have been to most places in the NT and spent years living there off and on. All of Darwin, Katherine, Tennant Creek and Alice Springs, all the little places like Elliott, Timber Creek, all the residential and commercial sites have big cyclone fences, big gates and big dogs. The social problem has been there for decades.
What is happening is not new. It is a symptom of what has been deteriorating for years. It needs to be addressed and it has to be inclusive. If not, give it a few more years and it will be happening in many more places.
It won't be fixed in a short time. It took years to bring it to this but we need to start the process.
Sensible post. From our experience of travelling to most corners of our country we have experienced these problems over many years.
The best policy is to avoid these "hot spots" if possible but if you can't, spend minimal time in them while staying vigilant.
We spend most of our time camped out in the bush, it's a lot safer & far more interesting.
A few weeks spent camping in a location with no other human contact & no kind of phone/internet connection is therapeutic for the soul.
In the middle of nowhere but in the centre of it all.
Yes I agree with your thoughts there we usually go to town for a look and supplies but never stay in caravan parks we much prefer rest areas or free cheap camps
cheers
DMaxer said
08:45 AM Jan 29, 2023
If you bother to check the Parliamentary Register Rick, which is available online, you will see that the Alice Springs meeting was scheduled for last December and then postponed when the PM contracted Covid.
Care to tell us about who went there in the previous ten years and what they achieved? I recall the man of many ministries went there and promised 14 million dollars which was never received.
Pray tell us, oh wise one.
-- Edited by DMaxer on Sunday 29th of January 2023 09:07:20 AM
Ivan 01 said
09:28 AM Jan 29, 2023
Wasnt it just recently that a high ranking MP flew up to the Alice.?
Does anyone know what that was about.?
I have not heard anything more about that trip however I could have easily missed something.
-- Edited by Ivan 01 on Sunday 29th of January 2023 09:31:55 AM
RickJ said
09:37 AM Jan 29, 2023
DMaxer wrote:
If you bother to check the Parliamentary Register Rick, which is available online, you will see that the Alice Springs meeting was scheduled for last December and then postponed when the PM contracted Covid.
Care to tell us about who went there in the previous ten years and what they achieved? I recall the man of many ministries went there and promised 14 million dollars which was never received.
Pray tell us, oh wise one.
-- Edited by DMaxer on Sunday 29th of January 2023 09:07:20 AM
Good morning DMaxer,
I dont have the time or inclination to look into your suggested searches.
I might add that as your constant efforts seem to try to turn posts political, would it not be better if you sought out a forum more aligned to your purpose.
There are plenty about.
DMaxer said
09:49 AM Jan 29, 2023
Have a read of your avatar and then reread your post Rick.
Do you understand the term "double standard"? Why was your cartoon taken down?
Looking at your avatar I could equally suggest a few forums where you would be most welcome.
-- Edited by DMaxer on Sunday 29th of January 2023 09:57:45 AM
-- Edited by DMaxer on Sunday 29th of January 2023 09:58:54 AM
RickJ said
10:13 AM Jan 29, 2023
DMaxer wrote:
Have a read of your avatar and then reread your post Rick.
Do you understand the term "double standard"? Why was your cartoon taken down?
Looking at your avatar I could equally suggest a few forums where you would be most welcome.
-- Edited by DMaxer on Sunday 29th of January 2023 09:57:45 AM
-- Edited by DMaxer on Sunday 29th of January 2023 09:58:54 AM
Firstly, I have no idea of what you are talking about regarding a cartoon. To my knowledge and memory I have no knowledge of any cartoon.
Secondly I have as much right to have an avatar as anyone else on this forum, however I will take it off if asked.
Might I point out that genuine contributors on any forum actually are proud enough to post using their own name.
My avatar only provides recognition that Australia is in fact my country as well as it is EQUALLY anyone elses who may decide to light a fire or chant or dance or however some may choose to claim that they are welcoming me to my own country.
-- Edited by RickJ on Sunday 29th of January 2023 10:50:35 AM
RickJ said
11:03 AM Jan 29, 2023
DMaxer wrote:
Have a read of your avatar and then reread your post Rick.
Do you understand the term "double standard"? Why was your cartoon taken down?
Looking at your avatar I could equally suggest a few forums where you would be most welcome.
-- Edited by DMaxer on Sunday 29th of January 2023 09:57:45 AM
-- Edited by DMaxer on Sunday 29th of January 2023 09:58:54 AM
DMaxer
I have changed my avatar.
I thought about it and I would not want you to be offended
DMaxer said
11:59 AM Jan 29, 2023
You changing your avatar had nothing to do with whether I was offended or not.
What name I post under has nothing to do with being genuine. The people on this forum who I like all know my name.
Hairyone said
02:49 PM Jan 29, 2023
Keep everything locked at all times and don't go out at night...... especially around the Mall and CBD. Most Caravan parks are about the same as far as security goes its just luck of the draw whether you get robbed or not....
Aussie1 said
02:59 PM Jan 29, 2023
Hairyone wrote:
Keep everything locked at all times and don't go out at night...... especially around the Mall and CBD. Most Caravan parks are about the same as far as security goes its just luck of the draw whether you get robbed or not....
Correct and if anyone thinks it is different in any other town up north e.g. Kimberley region, Darwin etc, you are completely delusional . Why, because no politician has the required B%lls to confront the issue head on. It is going to be just like the Covid situation, learn to live with it folks.
-- Edited by Aussie1 on Sunday 29th of January 2023 03:00:24 PM
DMaxer said
03:18 PM Jan 29, 2023
How do you suggest the situation should be confronted head on, Aussie?
Aussie1 said
03:30 PM Jan 29, 2023
DMaxer wrote:
How do you suggest the situation should be confronted head on, Aussie?
Actually, it's Aussie1, Anyhow, in answer to your question, Unfortunately, if i was to enlighten you on my personal feelings on how I would handle the situation, it would only result in this post being shut down . Read into that and take it anyway you care.
DMaxer said
03:59 PM Jan 29, 2023
My apologies for not adding the 1, Aussie1. Well we certainly don't want this shut down so perhaps without disclosing your unique way of confronting the problem head on, so to speak, would you let us know in which places or countries your method has been used with success.
Aussie1 said
04:44 PM Jan 29, 2023
DMaxer wrote:
My apologies for not adding the 1, Aussie1. Well we certainly don't want this shut down so perhaps without disclosing your unique way of confronting the problem head on, so to speak, would you let us know in which places or countries your method has been used with success.
Apology accepted.
My "unique" way, as you put it, is my personal view on how to handle it. Whether or not my idea has or has not been adapted in other places or countries, I have no idea. And frankly I have no interest in what those other places or countries do. My view is, we are our own people over here and we need to man up and not rely on copying others. Of coarse, our biggest stumbling block is some in our society are hell bent on "political correctness". The other issue we have to live with, in my opinion is, our front line operators e.g. Police, Ambo's, Fire & Rescue, and not forgetting Doctors & Nurses in emergency wards not being properly supported by the Judiciary.
As I said above, unfortunately, we just have to live with it just like Covid. Although, I will say, at least we can be vaccinated against Covid to lesson the severity.
Cheers Cobber.
DMaxer said
04:54 PM Jan 29, 2023
Well Aussie1, do you think the situation we are seeing in some of these towns would be resolved if we just arrested everyone and gave them lengthy gaol terms?
Do you think that would stop those people gaoled from reoffending after they were released and stop everyone else who was not in custody, from offending.
You don't think it is a good idea to look at how some other countries have handled issues such as ours. Why is our situation different?
Serious question.
Hairyone said
05:00 PM Jan 29, 2023
Jails aren't much of a deterrent and they need to be......
Hey,
With the current violence that seem to be escalating in Alice, can anyone advise ona safe caravan park to stay at for our stop over in 2 weeks tim?
cheers,
Mark
More importantly, enjoy yourself with what tha Alice and the area offers
Cheers and stay safe
We were there in July last year for the AFL game, stayed at the G Day Mate caravan park which had keypad entry after 6pm and found it excellent, went to all the local attractions including the AFL game, did our shopping at Woolworths in the CBD, went to several bottle shops and didn't notice any trouble at all, did notice a few groups of locals in certain areas which we avoided. Ian
The show ground is usually available and is far enough out of town that most "trouble makers" wont go there.
Hope that helps you
Peter
We went to Anzac Hill for an overall view, walked around Olive Pink Botanic Gardens & checked out the CBD.
Unless you want to buy a souvenir Didgeridoo made in China its just like any other rural town.
If we were passing through with our caravan we'd buy fuel, gas, fill up with water, buy groceries & head out to a campsite at least 50kms out of town.
That's our usual routine in trouble spots.
One of us stays with our rig while the other one shops.
The "locals" usually hover around looking for an opportunity but they've never touched it.
Hi Mark
I have good friends that currently live in Alice Springs and they are quoting that it is the worst that Alice has ever been for violent crime.
Great to ask questions of travellers and tap into their knowledge however most travellers unless actually there today are quoting only history to answer your enquiry.
I worked for a short time in Alice some 6 years ago and some of the stated camp areas can be good or at least could be when I was there.
The current problem is of national concern and you might be well advised to take every precaution. It has been very recently proven that it is not safe even when in numbers in a supermarket.
Be very vigilant. Watch your belongings even items like handbags. You can lose petrol of a night. Diesel is not as much of a worry. If it is not secured there will be a good chance that it wont be yours any longer.
Here is the comments from the Mayor from only 20 hours ago.
https://youtu.be/Yb0LbO3E2fs
Be vigilant and take care, we dont want you to become a statistic.
To summarise:
Don't go anywhere near the place.
Unfortunately Mike your summary may be very sound advice.
Slightly over the top, just take care when visiting and keep things locked up.
It sounds as if a "lot" of the trouble is at night, l think most of us oldies are all tucked away at those times, again if out and about late, take care
As far as avoiding totally, a bit hard to do if your travelling up that way?
-- Edited by Xyz on Saturday 28th of January 2023 04:49:15 PM
Never thought I would agree with the "(D.I.D.)" twins,but i think it is being made out a lot worse than it is.
I have been to most places in the NT and spent years living there off and on. All of Darwin, Katherine, Tennant Creek and Alice Springs, all the little places like Elliott, Timber Creek, all the residential and commercial sites have big cyclone fences, big gates and big dogs. The social problem has been there for decades.
What is happening is not new. It is a symptom of what has been deteriorating for years. It needs to be addressed and it has to be inclusive. If not, give it a few more years and it will be happening in many more places.
It won't be fixed in a short time. It took years to bring it to this but we need to start the process.
Sensible post. From our experience of travelling to most corners of our country we have experienced these problems over many years.
The best policy is to avoid these "hot spots" if possible but if you can't, spend minimal time in them while staying vigilant.
We spend most of our time camped out in the bush, it's a lot safer & far more interesting.
A few weeks spent camping in a location with no other human contact & no kind of phone/internet connection is therapeutic for the soul.
In the middle of nowhere but in the centre of it all.
Yes I agree with your thoughts there we usually go to town for a look and supplies but never stay in caravan parks we much prefer rest areas or free cheap camps
cheers
If you bother to check the Parliamentary Register Rick, which is available online, you will see that the Alice Springs meeting was scheduled for last December and then postponed when the PM contracted Covid.
Care to tell us about who went there in the previous ten years and what they achieved? I recall the man of many ministries went there and promised 14 million dollars which was never received.
Pray tell us, oh wise one.
-- Edited by DMaxer on Sunday 29th of January 2023 09:07:20 AM
Wasnt it just recently that a high ranking MP flew up to the Alice.?
Does anyone know what that was about.?
I have not heard anything more about that trip however I could have easily missed something.
-- Edited by Ivan 01 on Sunday 29th of January 2023 09:31:55 AM
Good morning DMaxer,
I dont have the time or inclination to look into your suggested searches.
I might add that as your constant efforts seem to try to turn posts political, would it not be better if you sought out a forum more aligned to your purpose.
There are plenty about.
Have a read of your avatar and then reread your post Rick.
Do you understand the term "double standard"? Why was your cartoon taken down?
Looking at your avatar I could equally suggest a few forums where you would be most welcome.
-- Edited by DMaxer on Sunday 29th of January 2023 09:57:45 AM
-- Edited by DMaxer on Sunday 29th of January 2023 09:58:54 AM
Firstly, I have no idea of what you are talking about regarding a cartoon. To my knowledge and memory I have no knowledge of any cartoon.
Secondly I have as much right to have an avatar as anyone else on this forum, however I will take it off if asked.
Might I point out that genuine contributors on any forum actually are proud enough to post using their own name.
My avatar only provides recognition that Australia is in fact my country as well as it is EQUALLY anyone elses who may decide to light a fire or chant or dance or however some may choose to claim that they are welcoming me to my own country.
-- Edited by RickJ on Sunday 29th of January 2023 10:50:35 AM
DMaxer
I have changed my avatar.
I thought about it and I would not want you to be offended
You changing your avatar had nothing to do with whether I was offended or not.
What name I post under has nothing to do with being genuine. The people on this forum who I like all know my name.
Correct and if anyone thinks it is different in any other town up north e.g. Kimberley region, Darwin etc, you are completely delusional . Why, because no politician has the required B%lls to confront the issue head on. It is going to be just like the Covid situation, learn to live with it folks.
-- Edited by Aussie1 on Sunday 29th of January 2023 03:00:24 PM
How do you suggest the situation should be confronted head on, Aussie?
Actually, it's Aussie1, Anyhow, in answer to your question, Unfortunately, if i was to enlighten you on my personal feelings on how I would handle the situation, it would only result in this post being shut down
. Read into that and take it anyway you care.
My apologies for not adding the 1, Aussie1. Well we certainly don't want this shut down so perhaps without disclosing your unique way of confronting the problem head on, so to speak, would you let us know in which places or countries your method has been used with success.
Apology accepted.
My "unique" way, as you put it, is my personal view on how to handle it. Whether or not my idea has or has not been adapted in other places or countries, I have no idea. And frankly I have no interest in what those other places or countries do. My view is, we are our own people over here and we need to man up and not rely on copying others. Of coarse, our biggest stumbling block is some in our society are hell bent on "political correctness". The other issue we have to live with, in my opinion is, our front line operators e.g. Police, Ambo's, Fire & Rescue, and not forgetting Doctors & Nurses in emergency wards not being properly supported by the Judiciary.
As I said above, unfortunately, we just have to live with it just like Covid. Although, I will say, at least we can be vaccinated against Covid to lesson the severity.
Cheers Cobber.
Well Aussie1, do you think the situation we are seeing in some of these towns would be resolved if we just arrested everyone and gave them lengthy gaol terms?
Do you think that would stop those people gaoled from reoffending after they were released and stop everyone else who was not in custody, from offending.
You don't think it is a good idea to look at how some other countries have handled issues such as ours. Why is our situation different?
Serious question.