Hi, I am looking to replace the original tyres on my D-Max and am wondering what is recommended for it. I am open to info. on what has been found to be reliable and most importantly has given good performance. I tow a 20ft Option Rv. Any good feedback will be appreciated. Cheers and safe travels. Jim
Dougwe said
06:44 PM Feb 10, 2023
I changed the road Tyers on my Colorado at about 2,000km to Cooper AT and was mostly happy with them and got around 120,000 km but felt they didn't grip well in the wet.
I then changed to Bridgestone AT and after three years very happy. I will probably go with Bridgestone AT again.
Southern Cruizer said
07:44 PM Feb 10, 2023
Like you Doug went the same way, Bridgestone AT after the originals at about 8000 klms
Dougwe said
08:13 PM Feb 10, 2023
When the time comes to go see Bridgestone again I will take care walking in SC.
-- Edited by Dougwe on Friday 10th of February 2023 08:14:27 PM
Radar said
08:16 PM Feb 10, 2023
We are using Michelin Force LTX on our dual cab ute.
2018, 70 000 ks, towing 2.7 tonne caravan wearing very good, enjoying their quietness, positive traction in the wet along with bute unseal forest roads performance.
Will certainly be buying the same again when the time comes.
I was involved in the tyre game for a while in a past life.
I go by recommendations from my workshop manager and from mates still in the game.
I have never been a fan of Coopers.
Probably the best around at the moment are Mickey Thompson Deegan 38s, and BFG A/T, but both are very expensive.
I believe the best all round performance and value for money are the Toyo Open Country.
Cuppa said
08:52 PM Feb 10, 2023
I have been through two sets of Bridgestone D697'LT' AT's & have had excellent mileage out of them. They held up really well on even the sharp quartz gravel on w. qld roads. Only thing I didn't like about them is that I believe they have thinner sidewalls than some of the competition & balloon out more with lower pressures. In rocky country I often found myself using higher pressures than I wanted to, simply due to the vulnerability of the side walls. Our car is heavy though, often running at gvm of 3900kg including the towball weight of our tvan. When I lost a 10 day old tyre to a side wall at moderate speed, to a rock hidden by sand, I decided to change next time I needed new tyres. We were in the Kimberley at the time, where it is often rocky, so I kept an eye on what Kimberley locals used on their out of town cars.
Two choices were far more common than the rest. BFG AT's & Toyo AT's. When the time came to get new tyres I went with Toyo's, but tyres were hard to obtain at the time, so I ended up getting the Toyo RT's which I'm still using. They are fine & suit my purpose, but as you would expect they are a bit noisier than AT's on the bitumen. Not as bad as MT's, nowhere near, but next change I'll go back to AT's.
yobarr said
08:57 PM Feb 10, 2023
Hewy54 wrote:
I was involved in the tyre game for a while in a past life. I go by recommendations from my workshop manager and from mates still in the game. I have never been a fan of Coopers. Probably the best around at the moment are Mickey Thompson Deegan 38s, and BFG A/T, but both are very expensive. I believe the best all round performance and value for money are the Toyo Open Country.
Like you, I have little regard for Coopers, but neither have I had a decent run out of BFG. When I turfed the BFGs I fitted Mickey Thompsons which gave me good service over many thousands of kilometres on both tar roads and unformed bush tracks, but when I decided to fit new tyres before travelling the Great Central Road from Kalgoorlie I was unable to source Mickey Thompson.
Much research steered me to Toyo Open Country, which have a great reputation as well as looking the part!
However, the tyre man who looked after our Roadtrains did not stock them, and insisted that Maxxis were a superior brand anyway. Eventually I agreed to fit the Maxxis to the car. They have been excellent on tar, dirt roads, bush tracks and in the mud, although last week I did get stuck when trying to travel on a recently flooded bush track.
Cross locks gave me a real 4wd and I managed to get out. Thankyou Mr ARB!
When it comes to tyres you will get opinions from everybody, depending on their own experiences, but I like my Maxxis. Cheers
Second the Toyo Open Country, AT's, Japanese Made NOT the Chinese made ones, difference is like chalk and cheese, the Jap made tyres better grip all round, and 3 times the distance on the tyre. Up until this last car, that now has HT's, I ran Toyo's for 15 years, over 120,000km per set average. Costing avg $400 ea. Also, not one puncture.
Roy E said
08:35 AM Feb 11, 2023
Yobarr,
I love your photo.
Cheers,
Roy.
Bobdown said
10:04 AM Feb 11, 2023
Roy E wrote:
Yobarr, I love your photo. Cheers, Roy.
Only trouble is Roy, not his rig just a random photo off the internet.
yobarr said
10:21 AM Feb 11, 2023
Bobdown wrote:
Roy E wrote:
Yobarr, I love your photo. Cheers, Roy.
Only trouble is Roy, not his rig just a random photo off the internet.
Hi Bob. Why is this "trouble"? Simply a picture of a car and van in a spot of bother in mud that I thought may be of interest to some. Cheers
Bobdown said
10:44 AM Feb 11, 2023
yobarr wrote:
Like you, I have little regard for Coopers, but neither have I had a decent run out of BFG. When I turfed the BFGs I fitted Mickey Thompsons which gave me good service over many thousands of kilometres on both tar roads and unformed bush tracks, but when I decided to fit new tyres before travelling the Great Central Road from Kalgoorlie I was unable to source Mickey Thompson.
Much research steered me to Toyo Open Country, which have a great reputation as well as looking the part!
However, the tyre man who looked after our Roadtrains did not stock them, and insisted that Maxxis were a superior brand anyway. Eventually I agreed to fit the Maxxis to the car. They have been excellent on tar, dirt roads, bush tracks and in the mud, although last week I did get stuck when trying to travel on a recently flooded bush track.
Cross locks gave me a real 4wd and I managed to get out. Thankyou Mr ARB!
When it comes to tyres you will get opinions from everybody, depending on their own experiences, but I like my Maxxis. Cheers
Because you have implied that it's yours, by posting that you got bogged.!!!
You never actually state that it's yours, just post random photos of broken caravans or long Road Trains that you 'don't' drive...false impression Yobarr, and nothing to do with the OP.
Cheers Bob
Aussie1 said
11:45 AM Feb 11, 2023
Bicyclecamper wrote:
Second the Toyo Open Country, AT's, Japanese Made NOT the Chinese made ones, difference is like chalk and cheese, the Jap made tyres better grip all round, and 3 times the distance on the tyre. Up until this last car, that now has HT's, I ran Toyo's for 15 years, over 120,000km per set average. Costing avg $400 ea. Also, not one puncture.
Good point re Toyo's made in Japan versus China. Totally agree. I have also had good overall performance from Toyo's.
yobarr said
12:05 PM Feb 11, 2023
Bobdown wrote:
yobarr wrote:
Like you, I have little regard for Coopers, but neither have I had a decent run out of BFG. When I turfed the BFGs I fitted Mickey Thompsons which gave me good service over many thousands of kilometres on both tar roads and unformed bush tracks, but when I decided to fit new tyres before travelling the Great Central Road from Kalgoorlie I was unable to source Mickey Thompson.
Much research steered me to Toyo Open Country, which have a great reputation as well as looking the part!
However, the tyre man who looked after our Roadtrains did not stock them, and insisted that Maxxis were a superior brand anyway. Eventually I agreed to fit the Maxxis to the car. They have been excellent on tar, dirt roads, bush tracks and in the mud, although last week I did get stuck when trying to travel on a recently flooded bush track.
Cross locks gave me a real 4wd and I managed to get out. Thankyou Mr ARB!
When it comes to tyres you will get opinions from everybody, depending on their own experiences, but I like my Maxxis. Cheers
Because you have implied that it's yours, by posting that you got bogged.!!!
You never actually state that it's yours, just post random photos of broken caravans or long Road Trains that you 'don't' drive...false impression Yobarr, and nothing to do with the OP.
Cheers Bob
Surely you jest, Bob? Does that little bus look like a 79? Photo was posted as a matter of interest, as are photos that I post of Roadtrains. And is 53.5 metres not long enough for you to class a truck as a Roadtrain?
Down your way most Roadtrains are 36.5 metres, I believe?, with bigger ones, around 53.5 metres allowed around Kalgoorlie and North, while the biggest ones, 60 metres long, are found up in the Port Hedland area. Cheers
This a 60 metre Roadtrain with 110 wheels, laden weight over 200 tons.
(Note. I DID NOT drive his particular truck.)
-- Edited by yobarr on Saturday 11th of February 2023 12:10:34 PM
It's the implication that it's a photo you took Yobarr, like I said you say, you drive a Roadtrain and then put a pic of one, what are people supposed to think.
Let's ask Roy 'if he loved your photo' because he thought it was you stuck in the mud? not some generic pic.
Why can't you admit that it's misleading to some people.
Cheers Bob
travelyounger said
10:02 PM Feb 11, 2023
RAINBIRD ROVERS wrote:
Hi, I am looking to replace the original tyres on my D-Max and am wondering what is recommended for it. I am open to info. on what has been found to be reliable and most importantly has given good performance. I tow a 20ft Option Rv. Any good feedback will be appreciated. Cheers and safe travels. Jim
Falken at3 Toyo open road bfg at 3 these are the best all round tyres
Warren-Pat_01 said
10:01 AM Feb 12, 2023
I learnt a hard lesson about 30 years ago. I had 8ply road tread Firestone tyres on our MQ Patrol & had to brake hard on a main wet Townsville road. I had no feeling of braking happening until I hit the 1st car, writing two cars off, damaging a third.
The main reason - the car aquaplaned due to no side sipes/slots that would let the water out the sides.
Since then I have been wary - some tyres have holding ribs on the edges of the tyres which is fine until the tyre wears down to that level - it's much higher than the safety bar. Earlier BS Desert Duellers had a high rib - I went butelsewhere. The Toyo O-C is a good tyre but it has that rib, the Bridgestone 697 has a smaller rib & I've not had any dramas in four sets of them.
I'm curious as to how some of our members above get over 80,000kms out of their tyres. On average Bridgestone 697 LT tyres give me around 55,000 KMs. Most sets could have given another 10,000kms of town driving but it's not worth the risk of doing highway speeds & chancing a blow out on a trip.
Bicyclecamper said
12:39 PM Feb 12, 2023
Warren-Pat_01 wrote:
I'm curious as to how some of our members above get over 80,000kms out of their tyres. On average Bridgestone 697 LT tyres give me around 55,000 KMs. Most sets could have given another 10,000kms of town driving but it's not worth the risk of doing highway speeds & chancing a blow out on a trip.
Good tyres, looked after will go the distance. I ran the tyres at between 36-38 psi, depending on weight. I never scrubbed them out on terrible roads. I did average 60/40 Highway gravel, and I think it is just the quality of them. Also I never had an aquaplaning issue in the wet in 15 years.
mixo said
01:00 PM Feb 12, 2023
I just got toyo open country 3, traveled 9,500km and they didn't miss a beat.
We usually do mostly country driving(black stuff) some off road and lots of beach driving when they let us!
Whatever you get make sure they are light truck construction which means they are tougher.
mixo
Cuppa said
02:05 PM Feb 12, 2023
Warren-Pat_01 wrote:
I'm curious as to how some of our members above get over 80,000kms out of their tyres. On average Bridgestone 697 LT tyres give me around 55,000 KMs. Most sets could have given another 10,000kms of town driving but it's not worth the risk of doing highway speeds & chancing a blow out on a trip.
We were in Broome when I bought our second lot of D697's. The first lot had done just over 60,000kms & I reckon for bitumen use had around 10,000kms left on them, but we were headed into the north Kimberley & expecting to drive the Munja Track & up to Kalumburu plus several tracks in the Gregory NP before heading for Cairns via the Limmen NP & Savannah way, so thought it prudent to replace them before leaving. They had done some pretty rough roads & held up well, all on our Patrol running at it's 3900kg extended GVM & towing the Tvan. Gashed a sidewall coming out of the Mornington Wilderness Camp & got a replacement at Nev's 'Over the Range' tyre place mid GRR. $500 there, but we needed it for the Munja Track. D697's in Broome cost slightly less than I had paid for the first set a few years earlier - I was amazed, but the bloke at Blue Haze (Wayne at Broome Mechanical) knew we had been living up on the Peninsula & wouldn't charge me any freight costs.
travelyounger said
05:12 PM Feb 12, 2023
Bicyclecamper wrote:
Warren-Pat_01 wrote:
I'm curious as to how some of our members above get over 80,000kms out of their tyres. On average Bridgestone 697 LT tyres give me around 55,000 KMs. Most sets could have given another 10,000kms of town driving but it's not worth the risk of doing highway speeds & chancing a blow out on a trip.
Good tyres, looked after will go the distance. I ran the tyres at between 36-38 psi, depending on weight. I never scrubbed them out on terrible roads. I did average 60/40 Highway gravel, and I think it is just the quality of them. Also I never had an aquaplaning issue in the wet in 15 years.
80000 km out of a set of tyres is a myth towing big weights no way
Bicyclecamper said
08:49 PM Feb 12, 2023
Well, you have been buying rubbish tyres TY, or not lo0oking after them. Towing wise, I only had 30% of those km's towing
Bobdown said
10:12 PM Feb 12, 2023
First set of Dunlop Grandtreks.....75,000k, still a bit meat on them as well.
Second set.......30,000k, still like new.
200 series Cruiser, 105,000k on the clock...........nearly 90,000k towing, all types of roads.
Cheers Bob
Warren-Pat_01 said
12:27 AM Feb 13, 2023
Regarding my query about long distances out of tyres, thanks to those who insinuated I abuse my tyres - that is not the case. They are too expensive, too critical to life to waste.
I always keep the tyres at about 36-38psi (town running), upping them to 40 & 42 when touring at highway speeds with a normal "holiday load" or towing. I rotate the tyres, have the alignment done every 10,000kms.
Roads travelled - mainly bitumen, good dirt these days. Sometimes it is necessary to do slow, more rugged tracks to get to good birding spots. If we go back to Adelaide, we sometimes utilise the Birdsville, Strzelecki Roads as a short cut - reducing the pressure when necessary. I have no fear of dirt roads, having travelled many hundreds of thousands of kms on them.
Except for the caravan, I cannot remember when I had to put the spare tyre on the car. The set I have on the D-Max currently are under observation as this is a lighter car than my past Patrols & is the second set on the car. The first set were 16" originals but a smaller profile meaning the speedo was about 10kph out.
travelyounger said
03:06 PM Feb 13, 2023
Bicyclecamper wrote:
Well, you have been buying rubbish tyres TY, or not lo0oking after them. Towing wise, I only had 30% of those km's towing
Toyo bfg falken are not rubbish always rotate and adjust pressure but towing 3.5 ton with 350 on the ball you will highly lucky to achieve 80 to 90 000 km
cheers
Craig1 said
04:44 PM Feb 13, 2023
Dunlop Grandtrek ( oem) are great on LC200, but were awful on BT50 twin cab, so maybe better quality for more expensive Tojo, or BT50 much lighter unladen?
Went to Mickey Thompson P3 on BT 60, a whole different game.
Bill B said
06:39 PM Feb 13, 2023
travelyounger wrote:
Toyo bfg falken are not rubbish always rotate and adjust pressure but towing 3.5 ton with 350 on the ball you will highly lucky to achieve 80 to 90 000 km
Hi, I am looking to replace the original tyres on my D-Max and am wondering what is recommended for it. I am open to info. on what has been found to be reliable and most importantly has given good performance. I tow a 20ft Option Rv. Any good feedback will be appreciated. Cheers and safe travels. Jim
I then changed to Bridgestone AT and after three years very happy. I will probably go with Bridgestone AT again.
When the time comes to go see Bridgestone again I will take care walking in SC.
-- Edited by Dougwe on Friday 10th of February 2023 08:14:27 PM
We are using Michelin Force LTX on our dual cab ute.
2018, 70 000 ks, towing 2.7 tonne caravan wearing very good, enjoying their quietness, positive traction in the wet along with bute unseal forest roads performance.
Will certainly be buying the same again when the time comes.
I go by recommendations from my workshop manager and from mates still in the game.
I have never been a fan of Coopers.
Probably the best around at the moment are Mickey Thompson Deegan 38s, and BFG A/T, but both are very expensive.
I believe the best all round performance and value for money are the Toyo Open Country.
Two choices were far more common than the rest. BFG AT's & Toyo AT's. When the time came to get new tyres I went with Toyo's, but tyres were hard to obtain at the time, so I ended up getting the Toyo RT's which I'm still using. They are fine & suit my purpose, but as you would expect they are a bit noisier than AT's on the bitumen. Not as bad as MT's, nowhere near, but next change I'll go back to AT's.
Like you, I have little regard for Coopers, but neither have I had a decent run out of BFG. When I turfed the BFGs I fitted Mickey Thompsons which gave me good service over many thousands of kilometres on both tar roads and unformed bush tracks, but when I decided to fit new tyres before travelling the Great Central Road from Kalgoorlie I was unable to source Mickey Thompson.
Much research steered me to Toyo Open Country, which have a great reputation as well as looking the part!
However, the tyre man who looked after our Roadtrains did not stock them, and insisted that Maxxis were a superior brand anyway. Eventually I agreed to fit the Maxxis to the car. They have been excellent on tar, dirt roads, bush tracks and in the mud, although last week I did get stuck when trying to travel on a recently flooded bush track.
Cross locks gave me a real 4wd and I managed to get out. Thankyou Mr ARB!
When it comes to tyres you will get opinions from everybody, depending on their own experiences, but I like my Maxxis. Cheers
I love your photo.
Cheers,
Roy.
Only trouble is Roy, not his rig just a random photo off the internet.
Hi Bob. Why is this "trouble"? Simply a picture of a car and van in a spot of bother in mud that I thought may be of interest to some. Cheers
Because you have implied that it's yours, by posting that you got bogged.!!!
You never actually state that it's yours, just post random photos of broken caravans or long Road Trains that you 'don't' drive...false impression Yobarr, and nothing to do with the OP.
Cheers Bob
Good point re Toyo's made in Japan versus China. Totally agree. I have also had good overall performance from Toyo's.
Surely you jest, Bob? Does that little bus look like a 79? Photo was posted as a matter of interest, as are photos that I post of Roadtrains. And is 53.5 metres not long enough for you to class a truck as a Roadtrain?
Down your way most Roadtrains are 36.5 metres, I believe?, with bigger ones, around 53.5 metres allowed around Kalgoorlie and North, while the biggest ones, 60 metres long, are found up in the Port Hedland area. Cheers
This a 60 metre Roadtrain with 110 wheels, laden weight over 200 tons.
(Note. I DID NOT drive his particular truck.)
-- Edited by yobarr on Saturday 11th of February 2023 12:10:34 PM
Thanks Roy. Cheers
It's the implication that it's a photo you took Yobarr, like I said you say, you drive a Roadtrain and then put a pic of one, what are people supposed to think.
Let's ask Roy 'if he loved your photo' because he thought it was you stuck in the mud? not some generic pic.
Why can't you admit that it's misleading to some people.
Cheers Bob
Falken at3 Toyo open road bfg at 3 these are the best all round tyres
The main reason - the car aquaplaned due to no side sipes/slots that would let the water out the sides.
Since then I have been wary - some tyres have holding ribs on the edges of the tyres which is fine until the tyre wears down to that level - it's much higher than the safety bar. Earlier BS Desert Duellers had a high rib - I went butelsewhere. The Toyo O-C is a good tyre but it has that rib, the Bridgestone 697 has a smaller rib & I've not had any dramas in four sets of them.
I'm curious as to how some of our members above get over 80,000kms out of their tyres. On average Bridgestone 697 LT tyres give me around 55,000 KMs. Most sets could have given another 10,000kms of town driving but it's not worth the risk of doing highway speeds & chancing a blow out on a trip.
Good tyres, looked after will go the distance. I ran the tyres at between 36-38 psi, depending on weight. I never scrubbed them out on terrible roads. I did average 60/40 Highway gravel, and I think it is just the quality of them. Also I never had an aquaplaning issue in the wet in 15 years.
We usually do mostly country driving(black stuff) some off road and lots of beach driving when they let us!
Whatever you get make sure they are light truck construction which means they are tougher.
mixo
We were in Broome when I bought our second lot of D697's. The first lot had done just over 60,000kms & I reckon for bitumen use had around 10,000kms left on them, but we were headed into the north Kimberley & expecting to drive the Munja Track & up to Kalumburu plus several tracks in the Gregory NP before heading for Cairns via the Limmen NP & Savannah way, so thought it prudent to replace them before leaving. They had done some pretty rough roads & held up well, all on our Patrol running at it's 3900kg extended GVM & towing the Tvan. Gashed a sidewall coming out of the Mornington Wilderness Camp & got a replacement at Nev's 'Over the Range' tyre place mid GRR. $500 there, but we needed it for the Munja Track. D697's in Broome cost slightly less than I had paid for the first set a few years earlier - I was amazed, but the bloke at Blue Haze (Wayne at Broome Mechanical) knew we had been living up on the Peninsula & wouldn't charge me any freight costs.
80000 km out of a set of tyres is a myth towing big weights no way
First set of Dunlop Grandtreks.....75,000k, still a bit meat on them as well.
Second set.......30,000k, still like new.
200 series Cruiser, 105,000k on the clock...........nearly 90,000k towing, all types of roads.
Cheers Bob
I always keep the tyres at about 36-38psi (town running), upping them to 40 & 42 when touring at highway speeds with a normal "holiday load" or towing. I rotate the tyres, have the alignment done every 10,000kms.
Roads travelled - mainly bitumen, good dirt these days. Sometimes it is necessary to do slow, more rugged tracks to get to good birding spots. If we go back to Adelaide, we sometimes utilise the Birdsville, Strzelecki Roads as a short cut - reducing the pressure when necessary. I have no fear of dirt roads, having travelled many hundreds of thousands of kms on them.
Except for the caravan, I cannot remember when I had to put the spare tyre on the car. The set I have on the D-Max currently are under observation as this is a lighter car than my past Patrols & is the second set on the car. The first set were 16" originals but a smaller profile meaning the speedo was about 10kph out.
Toyo bfg falken are not rubbish always rotate and adjust pressure but towing 3.5 ton with 350 on the ball you will highly lucky to achieve 80 to 90 000 km
cheers
Went to Mickey Thompson P3 on BT 60, a whole different game.
Are you rotating 4 or 5 tyres ?