Hi all,

I am thinking of buying a new Rexton but the 70litre fuel tank is a put off. Does anybody know if a long range tank can be fitted.

Thanks

Drummo wrote:

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Hi all,

I am thinking of buying a new Rexton but the 70litre fuel tank is a put off. Does anybody know if a long range tank can be fitted.

Thanks

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Hi Chris, Could I say that I'm more than surprised that this vehicle is still being considered after all its deficiencies were pointed out to you late last year when you posted, asking advice? 

To refresh your memory I've included a screen shot where you accepted our advice and said you'd "Give the Rexton a miss for now", which would have been a wise decision. Why the renewed interest? Smooth talking salesman? "Advice" from people with a vested interest? "Advice" from people who don't understand weights?

If you plan to tow a heavyish van, any dreams of safely towing 3500kg with this car is La La Land stuff if the trailer/van is a PIG trailer.

Your old Colorado is a far better bet, or you could look at an older Landcruiser, as per your suggestion. Cheers

P.S Absolute max this car can safely tow is 3000kg, with short wheelbase being another problem.

 Don't have rear axle carrying capacity figures with me at moment, but even a 300kg towball weight will add around 500kg.

Kebbin wrote:

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I think Drummo is asking about a long range fuel tank not "what should I buy" he has either made up his mind or is continuing to appraise the situation.

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Hi Kebbin, In his initial post Drummo mentioned the Rexton's 3500kg towing "ability", but recognised that this was only "good in theory".

This suggests that he was looking to tow a heavier van, or that claim capacity wouldn't have been important to him.

My input was merely to express surprise that this car remained on the shopping list, given that it has no chance of safely towing 3500kg as a PIG trailer, as was explained to him last year.

Like many things in life you get what you pay for.

"The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten". Cheers

P.S Chris would do well to consider a Landcruiser 100 or 105 for similar money and better quality than a new Rexton.

Hi all,

I love the responses so far. Whether you think I should or should not buy a Rexton, it seems you are genuinely interested in my dilemma and I really appreciate that.
FYI I am towing a 2013 Concept Belmont XLT 22' with an ATM of around 2900 ( the vans in for a service so I cant read the plate).

By the way I really love the van. It is fantastic.

I'll let you know how I end up with this.

The renewed interest in the Rexton is due to some local Australian reviews. I haven't even test drove one yet, but wont bother unless I can resolve the fuel capacity issue.

Cheers to all.

Drummo wrote:

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Hi all,

I love the responses so far. Whether you think I should or should not buy a Rexton, it seems you are genuinely interested in my dilemma and I really appreciate that.
FYI I am towing a 2013 Concept Belmont XLT 22' with an ATM of around 2900 ( the vans in for a service so I cant read the plate).

By the way I really love the van. It is fantastic.

I'll let you know how I end up with this.

The renewed interest in the Rexton is due to some local Australian reviews. I haven't even test drove one yet, but wont bother unless I can resolve the fuel capacity issue.

Cheers to all.

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 Hi Chris, thanks for acknowledging our efforts to help. Could I please ask that you look on your compliance plate, on one of the inner door pillars I've been told, to determine your rear axle carrying capacity, as this is critical to your decision.

My efforts to find this have been frustrated by people who claim not to know, but are more intent on selling me a new car! BAD sign.

Your 290kg towball weight (generally recognised 10% of ATM) will put well over 400kg onto your car's rear axle, which I believe will be your stumbling point. 

Today I will renew my efforts to help you by determining that capacity. Cheers

P.S BEWARE of 'reviews' by motor magazines as they're unlikely to bite the hand that feeds them. ( Think Advertising)

Eaglemax wrote:

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Hi Drummo Well you don't "get what you pay for"  you "get what you can afford"  and obviously you have a budget. Something many people don't take into account. The Rexton shapes up well in many areas but I question its ability to pull

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         You most certainly will "get what you can afford" if all else fails, but it seems that Drummo is looking to spend upwards of $50,000 on a new vehicle that is not really a good towing car. 

Since he is looking at a new vehicle above $50,000 I doubt that Drummo is short of funds so surely it makes more sense to use the funds he's allocated to this vehicle to purchase a vehicle that is more suited to towing, and may be a year or two old, rather than buying an unsuitable new vehicle? Warranties are not worth Two Bob if your little Buzz Box cries "enough" when you're in the back of beyond. Only milk and juice come in 2 litres.

Buying El Cheapo is false economy when we're talking tow cars. When I was looking for tow vehicles I made a list of requirements, and I tested many models including LC200s and new BIG Yank tanks before settling on a used 79 series Cruiser.                                Reliable, good resale value, and it safely and legally tows 3500kg, with ease.

Do it once. Do it well. Good luck to Chris with his research, but little cars towing big vans is a recipe for disaster.

There's myriad more suitable vehicles in the price range he's chosen. Cheers

Eaglemax wrote:

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https://www.browndavis.com.au/mitsubishi-pajero-sport-2015-present-112-litre-replacement-long-range-tank/

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Mitsubishi is good lightweight car, and I note that the max towball weight has been now been upgraded to a more sensible 310kg, or the generally accepted  10% of tow capacity.

However,GVM is very low at 2775kg, and remember that this can never be achieved when towing.

GCM is only 5565kg, and you'll never be able to load car so that weight on wheels is at least 10% greater than weight on wheels of the van, necessary for safe towing. GVM would have to be much higher to achieve that  figure.

And, as always, the miserable 1600kg rear axle capacity on the car is the main problem.

Why do manufacturers constantly try to confuse buyers with figures like these?

With 3100kg tow capacity and 5565kg GCM, the car can weigh only 2465kg. Behave! Cheers

Cheers

Hi Guru,

I love the pic 

I'll keep the search going. I have checked out some older cruisers...man..some are still asking over $100k for 7 year old cars with 150k on the clock. But there are some older ones in my price range that may be worth a look.

Cheers

Drummo wrote:

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Hi Guru,

I love the pic 

I'll keep the search going. I have checked out some older cruisers...man..some are still asking over $100k for 7 year old cars with 150k on the clock. But there are some older ones in my price range that may be worth a look.

Cheers

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 Great to hear that we were able to help. Far too many people get misled by deceptive advertising, and the spiel of commission-based salesmen who have NO interest in you, other than relieving you of as much cash as possible.

ANY Cruiser is a better bet than a 4 cylinder Buzz Box that will rev its guts out for little positive result, and likely die under the strain!

Good luck with your search, and always feel free to ask the forum for help if you think we can help you. Cheers

P.S Always there are bargains to be had if you let it be known among friends, car dealers, workmates etc what you're after. My 79 series V8 Landcruiser, only one owner with 121,000 km on it, was bought for $40,000. (Folding money!). Worth a LOT more than that.

Always easy to seal a bargain deal if you have cash on you, and wave it at the seller!

Eaglemax wrote:

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There is no option for a larger fuel tank for the Rexton. That was his concern. The Pajero is similar size, also 7 seater, power torque and has an outlet that will fit a much larger tank in 3 1/2 hours. Similar price too and I pointed out. But if you are referring to the v8 guzzler then that's way off topic. ;)

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 But it has no chance of safely towing a 2900 ATM van. 

Please refer to my post of 4.12pm yesterday for details.Cheers

P.S The reference to my V8 car was simply to illustrate that bargains are about if you look for them. Surely it would be pointless to say that I got a bargain without details? And for your reference my car uses 17.2 litres/100 km while running at 6800kg. That's good enough for me.

deverall11 wrote:

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Might find a fuel tank at the wreckers or someone wrecking a Rexton that happens
to have a bigger tank. Just a thought.

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 Great idea but doesn't address  the fact that a Rexton has NO chance of safely towing a 2900kg caravan as a PIG trailer. None.

Bit silly encouraging  those new to caravanning to set out in a totally unsuitable vehicle on a dream journey that is likely to quickly turn into a disaster. But I guess you're only dead once.

The dangers of weight were again illustrated to me just this morning when I set sail in my 3650kg car towing a 19'6 van that has 3150kg on its axles. (6800kg all up) With the car being 16% heavier than the van normally it tows like a dream, but this morning, on bitumen, the van was throwing the car around something wicked, so I stopped to investigate. 

Yesterday I had 4 new tyres fitted to the car, and had the car's wheels transferred to the van, as I usually do when I purchase a new set of tyres. For some inexplicable reason the tyreshop had put 60psi in the lead axle of the van and 40psi in the rear axle.         Ridiculous, but again highlights the stupidity of trying to tow heavy weights with a light car as it likely would have upended any of the current crop of utes with their claimed 6000kg GCM.

If safety is of ANY concern, ALWAYS the car should have at least 10% more weight on its wheels than is on the wheels of any van it is towing. Cheers

yobarr wrote:

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Eaglemax wrote:

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There is no option for a larger fuel tank for the Rexton. That was his concern. The Pajero is similar size, also 7 seater, power torque and has an outlet that will fit a much larger tank in 3 1/2 hours. Similar price too and I pointed out. But if you are referring to the v8 guzzler then that's way off topic. ;)

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 But it has no chance of safely towing a 2900 ATM van. 

Please refer to my post of 4.12pm yesterday for details.Cheers

P.S The reference to my V8 car was simply to illustrate that bargains are about if you look for them. Surely it would be pointless to say that I got a bargain without details? And for your reference my car uses 17.2 litres/100 km while running at 6800kg. That's good enough for me.

-- Edited by yobarr on Thursday 21st of September 2023 07:35:51 PM

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 But always mentioning your 79 is "eternally bleating"  

Eaglemax wrote:

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yobarr wrote:

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Eaglemax wrote:

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There is no option for a larger fuel tank for the Rexton. That was his concern. The Pajero is similar size, also 7 seater, power torque and has an outlet that will fit a much larger tank in 3 1/2 hours. Similar price too and I pointed out. But if you are referring to the v8 guzzler then that's way off topic. ;)

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 But it has no chance of safely towing a 2900 ATM van. 

Please refer to my post of 4.12pm yesterday for details.Cheers

P.S The reference to my V8 car was simply to illustrate that bargains are about if you look for them. Surely it would be pointless to say that I got a bargain without details? And for your reference my car uses 17.2 litres/100 km while running at 6800kg. That's good enough for me.

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 But always mentioning your 79 is "eternally bleating". 

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 Not at all. Because you seem to be ignorant of the meaning of the word "bleating" I have included a screen shot.

You can rest assured that I have no reason to resort to "bleating" when my car is mentioned, because I have nothing to bleat about.

Nothing compares nor competes. Cheers

Eaglemax wrote:

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Been reading up on the Mitsubishi Triton twin cab diesel. Kerb weight 1920kg, GVM 2900kg, towing capacity 3100kg, CVM 5880kg don't know about rear axle loading. $52,000 Tony

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 Rear axle is 1840kg but safe tow capacity is 2900kg, absolute TOPS. Cheers

It intrigues me why all these dual cabs & similar vehicles don't have the rear axle a bit further back.

Whenarewethere wrote:

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It intrigues me why all these dual cabs & similar vehicles don't have the rear axle a bit further back.

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 Because they generally use the same chassis as for single cab version.......

yobarr wrote:

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Eaglemax wrote:

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Been reading up on the Mitsubishi Triton twin cab diesel. Kerb weight 1920kg, GVM 2900kg, towing capacity 3100kg, CVM 5880kg don't know about rear axle loading. $52,000 Tony

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 Rear axle is 1840kg but safe tow capacity is 2900kg, absolute TOPS. Cheers

-- Edited by yobarr on Monday 9th of October 2023 11:35:04 AM

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 Firstly my old mate lol ... that pic, that was towing something also.  Now, yes I was aware of 2900kg tops towing but kerb weight 1920kg as opposed to 2256kg a difference of 336 kg. That would make a huge difference Yabarr. (Are you proud of me yet?  lol)

To follow up, yes these utes are medium duty utes. as per autoexpert.com.au/posts/how-to-bend-your-ute

The reason I'd go the triton is not to load it up with 900kg then attach the van. No, but worse case senario is towing say 2800kg leaving 280kg on the towball and if you had a 500kg load including two passengers its it quite safe  P.S there a Toyota LC with bent chassis on the site. :)
Tony