My independent mechanic has the diagnostic gear to access my Land Rover. You can buy your own diagnostic equipment with various levels of access.
Rusty W said
08:28 PM Jul 26, 2020
Just wait till you hit a big hill, you might have to go back to 5 th gear or 4th if you hit a steep mountain range and brake for the uphill corners.
regards Russell
Mamil said
09:37 PM Jul 26, 2020
Whenarewethere wrote:
My independent mechanic has the diagnostic gear to access my Land Rover. You can buy your own diagnostic equipment with various levels of access.
Whenarewethere, I don't doubt it, but unfortunately with each generation JLR make accessing the diagnostics more difficult and more expensive, so fewer and fewer independents are willing/able to invest in it. The diagnostics system that works on your Freelander 2 for example is SDD, but it doesn't work on my Discovery Sport because in 2017 JLR moved to the new Pathfinder diagnostics platform, and upped the ante for Independents. And that's just the diagnostics, what about software updates? Mine is so complex/fickle that it requires software updates at least twice a year to fix things, and independents don't have access to them. And now on the latest 2020 model software updates are downloaded wirelessly to the car direct from JLR via a dedicated SIM in the car - independents and even JLR's own dealers are cut out of the process altogether! Like I said, things are different with the latest generation of cars. A good reason not to buy the latest cars and head out into the blue yonder you may say, but they are all going that way eventually!
-- Edited by Mamil on Sunday 26th of July 2020 10:06:39 PM
the rocket said
11:04 PM Jul 26, 2020
Dougwe wrote:
Now you will have to buy a bigger boat.
Well, someone had to say it.
Enjoy.
Nevd said
10:21 AM Jul 27, 2020
"Just wait till you hit a big hill, you might have to go back to 5 th gear or 4th if you hit a steep mountain range and brake for the uphill corners. regards Russell"
Yep - the GCs love hills. On cruise control they will get to a decent hill, drop a gear or two, and accelerate up. You arrive at the top going faster than at the bottom. Car seems to think hills are a challenge to be conquered.
SouthernComfort said
11:25 AM Jul 27, 2020
Nevd wrote:
"Just wait till you hit a big hill, you might have to go back to 5 th gear or 4th if you hit a steep mountain range and brake for the uphill corners. regards Russell"
Yep - the GCs love hills. On cruise control they will get to a decent hill, drop a gear or two, and accelerate up. You arrive at the top going faster than at the bottom. Car seems to think hills are a challenge to be conquered.
We live very close to the ranges and most of our towing runs start with a climb over the top, usually up the long and winding Melba Hwy section that ascends from Dixons Creek to the Kinglake turn off. When we first got the GC I couldn't believe it did exactly as you've described - she picked up her skirts and flew up the hill gaining speed like it was a marathon. We still remark about it every time. One gutsy beast!
StewG said
04:55 PM Jul 27, 2020
I can't comment on Jeep either, but the service prices sound cheap to me, as a Land Rover owner. The Stealers treat you like a billionaire when you have a problem. Fortunately there are a few good independents around to reduce the pain. How about $300 for a Xenon headlight globe, or $1,500 for a windscreen? However, my Disco 4 is a magnificent car and tows beautifully.
landy said
09:33 PM Jul 27, 2020
StewG wrote:
I can't comment on Jeep either, but the service prices sound cheap to me, as a Land Rover owner. The Stealers treat you like a billionaire when you have a problem. Fortunately there are a few good independents around to reduce the pain. How about $300 for a Xenon headlight globe, or $1,500 for a windscreen? However, my Disco 4 is a magnificent car and tows beautifully.
Yet on some things they are relatively cheap . I was just chasing down a radiator for my 130 Defender. as the virus was causing delivery problems I decided to take a deep breath and ask the price at my local Land Rover dealer and was surprised when they said the could supply the genuine Land Rover part for $ 700 . Still a bit dear but certainly not to bad. Landy
BasilBruhaha said
09:38 PM Jul 27, 2020
I can comment on the Jeep Grand Cherokee.
Purchased our MY14 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo Diesel new in 2014. Have towed a 2.5 tonne pop top throughout Australia towing mileage 50,000kms, total mileage so far 125,000kms. Replaced pop top with 3.0 tonne hardtop caravan last October and cannot notice the difference.
The Grand Cherokee has never exceeded 19 litres per 100km teamed up with the caravan, (typically around 16 litres) and can achieve exceptionally low (7 litres per 100km) over lengthy solo journeys.
Now for the downside, there is none. Only replacements have been tyres, one windscreen and two headlights. Still has the original battery. 8 speed automatic and 3.0 litre diesel are without blemish. Servicing charges from Jeep Dealers were considered excessive, non dealers are half the cost.
Cannot see any reason to replace this vehicle. Have certainly looked around and fail to see anything that is comparable.
The current Jeep sales pitch is confused and confusing to the majority of us happy campers who actually own them.
Regards
Gary
jeepnudger said
12:28 AM Jul 28, 2020
Congratulations a good choice , i am on 2nd GC this time a limited and petrol i cannot complain . I have 3yrs free service and then capped price. I pull a van 2.7kgs and you do forget it is attached . A great vehicle full of safety features and a pleasure to drive, just did 3mths in Tas and home before lockdown . Hint travel at 95 to 100 and vehicle takes the climbs just great.
My independent mechanic has the diagnostic gear to access my Land Rover. You can buy your own diagnostic equipment with various levels of access.
regards Russell
Whenarewethere, I don't doubt it, but unfortunately with each generation JLR make accessing the diagnostics more difficult and more expensive, so fewer and fewer independents are willing/able to invest in it. The diagnostics system that works on your Freelander 2 for example is SDD, but it doesn't work on my Discovery Sport because in 2017 JLR moved to the new Pathfinder diagnostics platform, and upped the ante for Independents. And that's just the diagnostics, what about software updates? Mine is so complex/fickle that it requires software updates at least twice a year to fix things, and independents don't have access to them. And now on the latest 2020 model software updates are downloaded wirelessly to the car direct from JLR via a dedicated SIM in the car - independents and even JLR's own dealers are cut out of the process altogether! Like I said, things are different with the latest generation of cars. A good reason not to buy the latest cars and head out into the blue yonder you may say, but they are all going that way eventually!
-- Edited by Mamil on Sunday 26th of July 2020 10:06:39 PM
"Just wait till you hit a big hill, you might have to go back to 5 th gear or 4th if you hit a steep mountain range and brake for the uphill corners.
regards Russell"
Yep - the GCs love hills. On cruise control they will get to a decent hill, drop a gear or two, and accelerate up. You arrive at the top going faster than at the bottom. Car seems to think hills are a challenge to be conquered.
We live very close to the ranges and most of our towing runs start with a climb over the top, usually up the long and winding Melba Hwy section that ascends from Dixons Creek to the Kinglake turn off. When we first got the GC I couldn't believe it did exactly as you've described - she picked up her skirts and flew up the hill gaining speed like it was a marathon. We still remark about it every time. One gutsy beast!
Yet on some things they are relatively cheap . I was just chasing down a radiator for my 130 Defender. as the virus was causing delivery problems I decided to take a deep breath and ask the price at my local Land Rover dealer and was surprised when they said the could supply the genuine Land Rover part for $ 700 . Still a bit dear but certainly not to bad.
Landy
Purchased our MY14 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo Diesel new in 2014. Have towed a 2.5 tonne pop top throughout Australia towing mileage 50,000kms, total mileage so far 125,000kms. Replaced pop top with 3.0 tonne hardtop caravan last October and cannot notice the difference.
The Grand Cherokee has never exceeded 19 litres per 100km teamed up with the caravan, (typically around 16 litres) and can achieve exceptionally low (7 litres per 100km) over lengthy solo journeys.
Now for the downside, there is none. Only replacements have been tyres, one windscreen and two headlights. Still has the original battery. 8 speed automatic and 3.0 litre diesel are without blemish. Servicing charges from Jeep Dealers were considered excessive, non dealers are half the cost.
Cannot see any reason to replace this vehicle. Have certainly looked around and fail to see anything that is comparable.
The current Jeep sales pitch is confused and confusing to the majority of us happy campers who actually own them.
Regards
Gary
Congratulations a good choice , i am on 2nd GC this time a limited and petrol i cannot complain . I have 3yrs free service and then capped price. I pull a van 2.7kgs and you do forget it is attached . A great vehicle full of safety features and a pleasure to drive, just did 3mths in Tas and home before lockdown . Hint travel at 95 to 100 and vehicle takes the climbs just great.