What you need are some hugeNo Smoking stickers strategically placed around your van.
Could also try setting your smoke alarm off.
Sorry, I came in late but I couldn't help but comment as we too have suffered at the hands of uncaring smokers. Sometimes campfire smoke causes discomfort especially when the wood is green.
Laugh louder, live longer!
Cheers..
BazzMann48 said
02:07 PM Nov 13, 2020
What you need are some huge No Smoking stickers strategically placed around your van.
Could also try setting your smoke alarm off.
Sorry, I came in late but I couldn't help but comment as we too have suffered at the hands of uncaring smokers. Sometimes campfire smoke causes discomfort especially when the wood is green.
Laugh louder, live longer!
Cheers..
-- Edited by BazzMann48 on Friday 13th of November 2020 02:08:12 PM
peter67 said
06:32 PM Feb 17, 2021
rgren2 wrote:
Smokers suck. (
And LOVING it!! besides...here in WA with the govt putting up the price of ciggies every 6 months the amount of tax they get far exceeds the paltry amount paid by spendthrift NON smoking fuel and wine buying whingers mike Harding comments on, whose own health costs are hugely subsidised by the large govt tax all smokers pay. Did i forget to mention it's a very enjoyable habit? :)
yobarr said
06:58 PM Feb 17, 2021
peter67 wrote:
rgren2 wrote:
Smokers suck. (
And LOVING it!! besides...here in WA with the govt putting up the price of ciggies every 6 months the amount of tax they get far exceeds the paltry amount paid by spendthrift NON smoking fuel and wine buying whingers mike Harding comments on, whose own health costs are hugely subsidised by the large govt tax all smokers pay. Did i forget to mention it's a very enjoyable habit? :)
Hi Peter...surely only those of low intelligence would pay big money to kill themselves? Smokers are welcome to do as they will,in their own homes,but I violently object to my quality of life,not to mention my health,being affected by their inconsiderate actions in the public arena.No Cheers.
rgren2 said
07:10 PM Feb 17, 2021
Play on words. Used to tell the kids I busted smoking, You suck, the cigarette smokes, you just suck on it.
-- Edited by rgren2 on Wednesday 17th of February 2021 07:11:39 PM
Bill B said
07:15 PM Feb 17, 2021
yobarr wrote: Hi Peter...surely only those of low intelligence would pay big money to kill themselves? Smokers are welcome to do as they will,in their own homes,but I violently object to my quality of life,not to mention my health,being affected by their inconsiderate actions in the public arena.No Cheers.
No different to those who insist upon lighting camp fires, they are impacting my health with unwanted smoke.
-- Edited by Bill B on Wednesday 17th of February 2021 07:17:10 PM
Brodie Allen said
07:44 PM Feb 17, 2021
Stay out of sardine tin van parks and enjoy the fresh air.
If a bum comes close and blows smoke, farts or music or other inconsiderate activities, he's obviously a dope and needs a bit of a slap to convince him to move on.
It's useless to argue with bogans.
-- Edited by Brodie Allen on Wednesday 17th of February 2021 07:45:35 PM
I smoked for 30 years, giving up 6 years ago, mainly my pipe and cigars for the last 15 years after my brother died. Not smoking related I might add! Thankfully I appear to have not suffered any major health effects.
As an ex smoker, I must admit I really dont like the smell of cigarette smoke when I smell it. That said, however, I find it strange that over the past 6 years, a full lap of Australia and a number of other 4 to 6 week trips, spending 90% of our time in caravan parks, I can honestly say this. I have never smelled smokers while on the road, in caravan parks, or when in a free camp. NEVER! Now either I am extremely lucky, or these hordes of smokers who make life hell for everyone dont exist, and the problem is more in the telling, rather than the experience. In fact my travels have been more affected by loud, drink affected campers, and that has been infrequent as a matter of fact as well.
Even in our everyday life, over the past 6 years I can only remember commenting to my wife maybe a dozen times about smelling smokes when we have been out and about. So as I say, I suggest the problem is more in the mind and biases of those who whinge about it, like the dog blankets in the washing machine crowds (another rare urban myth), than the clouds of smoke around the van camps.
Enjoy your travels Bill.
-- Edited by TheHeaths on Wednesday 17th of February 2021 07:56:50 PM
oldbloke said
10:31 PM Feb 17, 2021
orid wrote:
Mike Harding wrote:
Oh dear... so:
No smokers.
No generators.
No camp fires.
No music.
No dogs.
No...?
sex lol ha ha especially if your suspension squeaks
Can someone please ban this member. Lol.
The Belmont Bear said
10:50 PM Feb 17, 2021
I dont recall ever having been bothered by people smoking in caravan parks I kicked the habit 35 years ago and now I can't even stand the smell.
Before covid hit I spent a fair bit of my time in South Africa where the price of tobacco is only a fraction of the cost that it is here and the smoking regulations (or enforcement of them) is pretty lax. The smokers in our team think that they are in heaven and take advantage of the cheap cigarettes by chain smoking - I reckon the amount that they get through they will probably be in heaven in the not too distant future. Nothing worse than people blowing smoke in your face while you are trying to eat or having a beer. It also funny that in Australia the same guys will follow the non smoking rules without complaint, if we are in a group they ask if you mind if they smoke or they go off to designated smoking areas etc. Within days of arriving over there any pretence of concern for others is gone and it quickly becomes when in "Rome do as the Romans do"....including dropping filthy cigarette butts everywhere.
BB
montie said
07:33 AM Feb 18, 2021
oldbloke wrote:
orid wrote:
Mike Harding wrote:
Oh dear... so:
No smokers.
No generators.
No camp fires.
No music.
No dogs.
No...?
sex lol ha ha especially if your suspension squeaks
Can someone please ban this member. Lol.
I am an ex smoker of 20 years ago but I am not in the least bothered by the smell of cigarette smoke or any other smoke for that matter.
Cigarette smoke aroma can travel a long way on the wind and it not yet a crime to smoke cigarettes no more than it is a crime to light a compliant camp fire.
I think we need to learn to tolerate each other a bit more...nobody's perfect...we all have some bad habits.
Old and Grey said
08:21 AM Feb 18, 2021
Hate those that smoke within a caravan park when having to pay for the privilege for staying over doing the sheets.
It would make us feel like lighting up the fish smoker all night with green grass as fuel. See how the other half like it.
Grey
tea spoon said
11:22 AM Feb 18, 2021
smoking is annoying if it blows in the van yes ......however i think scum bags who start there diesel car up before using it and letting the fumes go everywhere is very annoying as well........ive have had some run for 10 to 15 minutes then another 15 or more minutes whilst they hitch up .......wonder if they will run there electric cars same ........
Bobdown said
11:38 AM Feb 18, 2021
Brodie Allen wrote:
Stay out of sardine tin van parks and enjoy the fresh air.
If a bum comes close and blows smoke, farts or music or other inconsiderate activities, he's obviously a dope and needs a bit of a slap to convince him to move on.
It's useless to argue with bogans.
-- Edited by Brodie Allen on Wednesday 17th of February 2021 07:45:35 PM
Very opinionated there Brodie, who made you the bogan police ?
Cheers Bob
Bicyclecamper said
07:29 PM Feb 18, 2021
I am a smoker , and chain every now and then, but last year we camped at a local campground, and I picked the spot in the sun, out in the middle, bit edge of the ground, with no shade cover, so I could enjoy my smoking, which is what I do always. Put up my sign, that states I am a Smoker. That did not stop, vans parking next to us, nor the complaints I got from them, because, I chained smoked, as was in the middle, of some severe financial worries and that is what I do, when I worry. It was inconsiderate of them to park near us, when they had an empty campground to use. So am currently considering, not putting out the sign in the future. It was obvious we wanted to be on our own, but their are a lot of dumb nomads out there.
-- Edited by Bicyclecamper on Thursday 18th of February 2021 07:33:07 PM
DMaxer said
08:22 PM Feb 18, 2021
I don't really follow the logic that just because you warn those around you that you are going to be doing what you choose to do justifies your actions in a public place.
Because you put a sign out, put your generator out or announce you will be having bagpipe practice does not then allow you to carry on a practice objected to by the majority of others.
montie said
09:08 PM Feb 18, 2021
DMaxer wrote:
I don't really follow the logic that just because you warn those around you that you are going to be doing what you choose to do justifies your actions in a public place. Because you put a sign out, put your generator out or announce you will be having bagpipe practice does not then allow you to carry on a practice objected to by the majority of others.
Peter,
To my knowledge smoking cigarettes is not illegal so there is no need to give any warning or erect any signs at all.
The previous poster was simply being courteous by pre warning people that he was a smoker and giving them the choice to park elsewhere.
It's simple...if you don't like people legally smoking near you then just move away.
Just to qualify..I am a non smoker.
DMaxer said
08:16 AM Feb 19, 2021
It is not a question of whether something is legal or not, it is a question of considering others enjoyment of an area. Warning people that you are not considering them is hardly appropriate.
Dougwe said
08:25 AM Feb 19, 2021
G'day BigD,
Mate, inconsiderate people are becoming more and more lately. I can't be around any sort of smoke so try to avoid as much as possible, mostly I can but caught out too. My main problem is noise, I am having trouble coping with it and getting worse. Many a night I have to put ear plugs in thanks to 'inconsiderate' people.
Maybe I am turning into a grumpy old man or already one. Bugga.
travelyounger said
09:16 AM Feb 19, 2021
Derek Barnes wrote:
We returned home from a week at Broken Hill today. Broken Hill was wonderful! The recent rains have made the usual red soil plains green, with a thick layer of lush grass. Hills near the Daydream Mine were literally covered by pale blue wildflowers. The local people were very friendly and we contributed to the local economy by buying many great artworks and hand-made items.
The only major problem we faced was being overcome by cigarette smoke in our own caravan, as neighbours chain smoked around us. One fellow set up their caravan and then sat outside their caravan and proceeded to chain smoke for 4 hours. Another guy smoked outside his van at all hours of the day and night including at 3:00am when I woke and noticed smoke in our caravan. We couldn't close the windows as it was too hot at times and too noisy if we left the AC on.
Is there any way of overcoming this problem? I know many of us grey nomads are from the time when smoking was the norm, but I think its about time that people considered that many of us are non-smokers. If you don't smoke inside your caravan because of the lingering smell then don't smoke outside your caravan near others.
You could do an early exit at 2 in the morning or close your windows or tell them politely of corse not to smoke near your van like most considerate smokers do or maybe they are just a$&£¥#s and dont care about anyone else.
dieseltojo said
09:24 AM Feb 19, 2021
"I'm a smoker let me smoke in peace".....HeHe.....When you are near me and smoke; Then I too am a smoker, now ain't that right?
Of course you have the right to do a legal activity that the government allows. And this id the good part....I have no right to complain.
So you are at peace.....whilst not bothering about mine. Yeah...I suppose it can all be justified if you really think about it.
No probs I came to a site and two heavy smokers move on each side of me.
My problem; I oughta move?..... Takes an hour to set up and an hour to move to another site. If one is available of course... Yep Too bad for me ....
travelyounger said
10:40 AM Feb 19, 2021
Derek Barnes wrote:
We returned home from a week at Broken Hill today. Broken Hill was wonderful! The recent rains have made the usual red soil plains green, with a thick layer of lush grass. Hills near the Daydream Mine were literally covered by pale blue wildflowers. The local people were very friendly and we contributed to the local economy by buying many great artworks and hand-made items.
The only major problem we faced was being overcome by cigarette smoke in our own caravan, as neighbours chain smoked around us. One fellow set up their caravan and then sat outside their caravan and proceeded to chain smoke for 4 hours. Another guy smoked outside his van at all hours of the day and night including at 3:00am when I woke and noticed smoke in our caravan. We couldn't close the windows as it was too hot at times and too noisy if we left the AC on.
Is there any way of overcoming this problem? I know many of us grey nomads are from the time when smoking was the norm, but I think its about time that people considered that many of us are non-smokers. If you don't smoke inside your caravan because of the lingering smell then don't smoke outside your caravan near others.
Start the genny or put on duff duff music
montie said
11:49 AM Feb 19, 2021
All pubs, clubs and other venues provide separate facilities for smokers and there are laws around how those facilities are managed.
Maybe it's time for CP's to do the same.
msg said
12:23 PM Feb 19, 2021
Why don't you dob them in to the police. I am sure there's a law they could enforce.
God forbid you use a bit of tolerance.
-- Edited by msg on Friday 19th of February 2021 12:36:07 PM
Moose2 said
01:08 PM Feb 19, 2021
Derek...what about a strategically placed fan that returns the foul smell right back to the sender?
TheHeaths said
05:17 PM Feb 19, 2021
DMaxer wrote:
I don't really follow the logic that just because you warn those around you that you are going to be doing what you choose to do justifies your actions in a public place. Because you put a sign out, put your generator out or announce you will be having bagpipe practice does not then allow you to carry on a practice objected to by the majority of others.
So, Im in first, park out of the way, let people know what I am doing, and there is plenty of space for them to avoid me, and yet their discomfort is still my fault? Yes I can follow your logic as well Dmaxer.
And turning up after and choosing to ignore that advice doesnt mean you have free range to whine about my actions.
Sometimes you have to take the responsibility for your own discomfort and annoyance if you ignore a friendly warning.
-- Edited by TheHeaths on Friday 19th of February 2021 05:22:08 PM
peter67 said
05:59 PM Feb 19, 2021
TheHeaths wrote:
DMaxer wrote:
I don't really follow the logic that just because you warn those around you that you are going to be doing what you choose to do justifies your actions in a public place. Because you put a sign out, put your generator out or announce you will be having bagpipe practice does not then allow you to carry on a practice objected to by the majority of others.
So, Im in first, park out of the way, let people know what I am doing, and there is plenty of space for them to avoid me, and yet their discomfort is still my fault? Yes I can follow your logic as well Dmaxer.
And turning up after and choosing to ignore that advice doesnt mean you have free range to whine about my actions.
Sometimes you have to take the responsibility for your own discomfort and annoyance if you ignore a friendly warning.
You could compare that to people who buy land next to a busy airport after being made fully aware of the noise before signing up. Once that suburb has been fully built out they all get together and lobby against the airport for being far too noisey.... I think dmax is depriving himself by instantly hating smokers. If dmax got to know smokers better over a few beers and the occasional whiff of ciggie smoke ( which he doesn't pay a cent for ) he may find some of their other habits far more disgusting and so round out the experience far more fully.
-- Edited by TheHeaths on Friday 19th of February 2021 05:22:08 PM
DMaxer said
06:17 PM Feb 19, 2021
Without becoming evangelical about it The Heaths, I do not understand what difference it makes in arrival time as to whether you have to consider the comfort and enjoyment of others. I suppose if a national park opens at say 9am then one revs the inside out of the car and races in with the van and sets the rules for all that follow. Am I missing something?
As to the analogy of buying land near an airport and then complaining is a totally moronic statement that has no bearing on the topic and does not even deserve a reply.
-- Edited by DMaxer on Friday 19th of February 2021 06:18:27 PM
yobarr said
06:28 PM Feb 19, 2021
peter67 wrote:
TheHeaths wrote:
DMaxer wrote:
I don't really follow the logic that just because you warn those around you that you are going to be doing what you choose to do justifies your actions in a public place. Because you put a sign out, put your generator out or announce you will be having bagpipe practice does not then allow you to carry on a practice objected to by the majority of others.
So, Im in first, park out of the way, let people know what I am doing, and there is plenty of space for them to avoid me, and yet their discomfort is still my fault? Yes I can follow your logic as well Dmaxer.
And turning up after and choosing to ignore that advice doesnt mean you have free range to whine about my actions.
Sometimes you have to take the responsibility for your own discomfort and annoyance if you ignore a friendly warning.
You could compare that to people who buy land next to a busy airport after being made fully aware of the noise before signing up. Once that suburb has been fully built out they all get together and lobby against the airport for being far too noisey.... I think dmax is depriving himself by instantly hating smokers. If dmax got to know smokers better over a few beers and the occasional whiff of ciggie smoke ( which he doesn't pay a cent for ) he may find some of their other habits far more disgusting and so round out the experience far more fully.
Peter,whist I certainly agree with yourb thoughts contained in the first couple of sentences in the post above...been there,done that...there is not a snowflake's chance in hell of me getting "...to know smokers better over a few beers" as I flatly refuse to drink with,or near, anybody who wishes to smoke.I simply do not understand how anybody can choose to pay big money to kill themselves. An associate spends over $750/week on cigarettes,or $40,000/year,and all he ends up with is dozens of ashtrays full of cigarette butts. Spare me! Has anybody ever conducted a survey about smoking habits versus IQ? That could be enlightening? Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Friday 19th of February 2021 06:54:22 PM
TheHeaths said
07:50 PM Feb 19, 2021
yobarr wrote:
peter67 wrote:
TheHeaths wrote:
DMaxer wrote:
I don't really follow the logic that just because you warn those around you that you are going to be doing what you choose to do justifies your actions in a public place. Because you put a sign out, put your generator out or announce you will be having bagpipe practice does not then allow you to carry on a practice objected to by the majority of others.
So, Im in first, park out of the way, let people know what I am doing, and there is plenty of space for them to avoid me, and yet their discomfort is still my fault? Yes I can follow your logic as well Dmaxer.
And turning up after and choosing to ignore that advice doesnt mean you have free range to whine about my actions.
Sometimes you have to take the responsibility for your own discomfort and annoyance if you ignore a friendly warning.
You could compare that to people who buy land next to a busy airport after being made fully aware of the noise before signing up. Once that suburb has been fully built out they all get together and lobby against the airport for being far too noisey.... I think dmax is depriving himself by instantly hating smokers. If dmax got to know smokers better over a few beers and the occasional whiff of ciggie smoke ( which he doesn't pay a cent for ) he may find some of their other habits far more disgusting and so round out the experience far more fully.
Peter,whist I certainly agree with yourb thoughts contained in the first couple of sentences in the post above...been there,done that...there is not a snowflake's chance in hell of me getting "...to know smokers better over a few beers" as I flatly refuse to drink with,or near, anybody who wishes to smoke.I simply do not understand how anybody can choose to pay big money to kill themselves. An associate spends over $750/week on cigarettes,or $40,000/year,and all he ends up with is dozens of ashtrays full of cigarette butts. Spare me! Has anybody ever conducted a survey about smoking habits versus IQ? That could be enlightening? Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Friday 19th of February 2021 06:54:22 PM
Your normal, well considered, non confrontational, condescending effort I see Chris. I suggest smokers will consider themselves well off without some of your opinions being forced on them around the conversational.
Your opinion is valid, your approach to others who dont meet your expectation, is not.
What you need are some hugeNo Smoking stickers strategically placed around your van.
Could also try setting your smoke alarm off.
Sorry, I came in late but I couldn't help but comment as we too have suffered at the hands of uncaring smokers. Sometimes campfire smoke causes discomfort especially when the wood is green.
Laugh louder, live longer!
Cheers..
What you need are some huge No Smoking stickers strategically placed around your van.
Could also try setting your smoke alarm off.
Sorry, I came in late but I couldn't help but comment as we too have suffered at the hands of uncaring smokers. Sometimes campfire smoke causes discomfort especially when the wood is green.
Laugh louder, live longer!
Cheers..
-- Edited by BazzMann48 on Friday 13th of November 2020 02:08:12 PM
And LOVING it!! besides...here in WA with the govt putting up the price of ciggies every 6 months the amount of tax they get far exceeds the paltry amount paid by spendthrift NON smoking fuel and wine buying whingers mike Harding comments on, whose own health costs are hugely subsidised by the large govt tax all smokers pay. Did i forget to mention it's a very enjoyable habit? :)
Hi Peter...surely only those of low intelligence would pay big money to kill themselves? Smokers are welcome to do as they will,in their own homes,but I violently object to my quality of life,not to mention my health,being affected by their inconsiderate actions in the public arena.No Cheers.
Play on words. Used to tell the kids I busted smoking, You suck, the cigarette smokes, you just suck on it.
-- Edited by rgren2 on Wednesday 17th of February 2021 07:11:39 PM
No different to those who insist upon lighting camp fires, they are impacting my health with unwanted smoke.
-- Edited by Bill B on Wednesday 17th of February 2021 07:17:10 PM
Stay out of sardine tin van parks and enjoy the fresh air.
If a bum comes close and blows smoke, farts or music or other inconsiderate activities,
he's obviously a dope and needs a bit of a slap to convince him to move on.
It's useless to argue with bogans.
-- Edited by Brodie Allen on Wednesday 17th of February 2021 07:45:35 PM
Its funny.
I smoked for 30 years, giving up 6 years ago, mainly my pipe and cigars for the last 15 years after my brother died. Not smoking related I might add! Thankfully I appear to have not suffered any major health effects.
As an ex smoker, I must admit I really dont like the smell of cigarette smoke when I smell it. That said, however, I find it strange that over the past 6 years, a full lap of Australia and a number of other 4 to 6 week trips, spending 90% of our time in caravan parks, I can honestly say this. I have never smelled smokers while on the road, in caravan parks, or when in a free camp. NEVER! Now either I am extremely lucky, or these hordes of smokers who make life hell for everyone dont exist, and the problem is more in the telling, rather than the experience. In fact my travels have been more affected by loud, drink affected campers, and that has been infrequent as a matter of fact as well.
Even in our everyday life, over the past 6 years I can only remember commenting to my wife maybe a dozen times about smelling smokes when we have been out and about. So as I say, I suggest the problem is more in the mind and biases of those who whinge about it, like the dog blankets in the washing machine crowds (another rare urban myth), than the clouds of smoke around the van camps.
Enjoy your travels Bill.
-- Edited by TheHeaths on Wednesday 17th of February 2021 07:56:50 PM
Can someone please ban this member. Lol.
I dont recall ever having been bothered by people smoking in caravan parks I kicked the habit 35 years ago and now I can't even stand the smell.
Before covid hit I spent a fair bit of my time in South Africa where the price of tobacco is only a fraction of the cost that it is here and the smoking regulations (or enforcement of them) is pretty lax. The smokers in our team think that they are in heaven and take advantage of the cheap cigarettes by chain smoking - I reckon the amount that they get through they will probably be in heaven in the not too distant future. Nothing worse than people blowing smoke in your face while you are trying to eat or having a beer. It also funny that in Australia the same guys will follow the non smoking rules without complaint, if we are in a group they ask if you mind if they smoke or they go off to designated smoking areas etc. Within days of arriving over there any pretence of concern for others is gone and it quickly becomes when in "Rome do as the Romans do"....including dropping filthy cigarette butts everywhere.
BB
I am an ex smoker of 20 years ago but I am not in the least bothered by the smell of cigarette smoke or any other smoke for that matter.
Cigarette smoke aroma can travel a long way on the wind and it not yet a crime to smoke cigarettes no more than it is a crime to light a compliant camp fire.
I think we need to learn to tolerate each other a bit more...nobody's perfect...we all have some bad habits.
Hate those that smoke within a caravan park when having to pay for the privilege for staying over doing the sheets.
It would make us feel like lighting up the fish smoker all night with green grass as fuel. See how the other half like it.
Grey
Very opinionated there Brodie, who made you the bogan police ?
Cheers Bob
I am a smoker , and chain every now and then, but last year we camped at a local campground, and I picked the spot in the sun, out in the middle, bit edge of the ground, with no shade cover, so I could enjoy my smoking, which is what I do always. Put up my sign, that states I am a Smoker. That did not stop, vans parking next to us, nor the complaints I got from them, because, I chained smoked, as was in the middle, of some severe financial worries and that is what I do, when I worry. It was inconsiderate of them to park near us, when they had an empty campground to use. So am currently considering, not putting out the sign in the future. It was obvious we wanted to be on our own, but their are a lot of dumb nomads out there.
-- Edited by Bicyclecamper on Thursday 18th of February 2021 07:33:07 PM
Peter,
To my knowledge smoking cigarettes is not illegal so there is no need to give any warning or erect any signs at all.
The previous poster was simply being courteous by pre warning people that he was a smoker and giving them the choice to park elsewhere.
It's simple...if you don't like people legally smoking near you then just move away.
Just to qualify..I am a non smoker.
Mate, inconsiderate people are becoming more and more lately. I can't be around any sort of smoke so try to avoid as much as possible, mostly I can but caught out too. My main problem is noise, I am having trouble coping with it and getting worse. Many a night I have to put ear plugs in thanks to 'inconsiderate' people.
Maybe I am turning into a grumpy old man or already one. Bugga.
You could do an early exit at 2 in the morning or close your windows or tell them politely of corse not to smoke near your van like most considerate smokers do or maybe they are just a$&£¥#s and dont care about anyone else.
"I'm a smoker let me smoke in peace".....HeHe.....When you are near me and smoke; Then I too am a smoker, now ain't that right?
Of course you have the right to do a legal activity that the government allows. And this id the good part....I have no right to complain.
So you are at peace.....whilst not bothering about mine. Yeah...I suppose it can all be justified if you really think about it.
No probs I came to a site and two heavy smokers move on each side of me.
My problem; I oughta move?..... Takes an hour to set up and an hour to move to another site. If one is available of course... Yep Too bad for me ....
Start the genny or put on duff duff music
Maybe it's time for CP's to do the same.
Why don't you dob them in to the police. I am sure there's a law they could enforce.
God forbid you use a bit of tolerance.
-- Edited by msg on Friday 19th of February 2021 12:36:07 PM
Derek...what about a strategically placed fan that returns the foul smell right back to the sender?
So, Im in first, park out of the way, let people know what I am doing, and there is plenty of space for them to avoid me, and yet their discomfort is still my fault? Yes I can follow your logic as well Dmaxer.
And turning up after and choosing to ignore that advice doesnt mean you have free range to whine about my actions.
Sometimes you have to take the responsibility for your own discomfort and annoyance if you ignore a friendly warning.
-- Edited by TheHeaths on Friday 19th of February 2021 05:22:08 PM
Without becoming evangelical about it The Heaths, I do not understand what difference it makes in arrival time as to whether you have to consider the comfort and enjoyment of others. I suppose if a national park opens at say 9am then one revs the inside out of the car and races in with the van and sets the rules for all that follow. Am I missing something?
As to the analogy of buying land near an airport and then complaining is a totally moronic statement that has no bearing on the topic and does not even deserve a reply.
-- Edited by DMaxer on Friday 19th of February 2021 06:18:27 PM
-- Edited by yobarr on Friday 19th of February 2021 06:54:22 PM
Your normal, well considered, non confrontational, condescending effort I see Chris. I suggest smokers will consider themselves well off without some of your opinions being forced on them around the conversational.
Your opinion is valid, your approach to others who dont meet your expectation, is not.