How's skyrocketing fuel prices going to affect your plans?
SoloMC said
08:59 AM Nov 5, 2021
You have 2 options, fuel up or dont.
I free camp a lot and set up for weeks at a time and just do short trips radiating from camp.
What i save on camp fees, is spent on fuel etc
I recall years ago i asked the attendant at Hermannsburg why the bowser price was 99.9 cpl. He simply said 'thats as high as she goes'
Fuel was cheap back then and its still cheap now
Aussie1 said
09:39 AM Nov 5, 2021
Ger08 wrote:
Tony Bev wrote:
Paid $1.979 at Nanutarra roadhouse this morning
As I previously said, it is what it is
Nanutarra my equal least favourite favourite roadhouse. Has been a complete ripoff for years
Yep exactly. A good roadhouse to avoid. Fortunately we, like many others, carry sufficient fuel to by pass that joint.
Tony Bev said
01:20 PM Nov 5, 2021
Aussie1 wrote:
Ger08 wrote:
Tony Bev wrote:
Paid $1.979 at Nanutarra roadhouse this morning
As I previously said, it is what it is
Nanutarra my equal least favourite favourite roadhouse. Has been a complete ripoff for years
Yep exactly. A good roadhouse to avoid. Fortunately we, like many others, carry sufficient fuel to by pass that joint.
I usually get either food or fuel from every roadhouse, on the long stretches
I also do not usually fill up at Nantawarra, (because of their much higher prices), but I do stop for food
I had a headwind, and decided to get $30 of splash and dash, (just in case), otherwise I would not have known the price
It was marginal if I would have reached Minillya Bridge, from Karratha, with the headwinds
Brodie Allen said
02:43 PM Nov 5, 2021
I was told some time back that there's three consecutive fuel stations on the Nulla
that are all owned by the same person, and the distance guarantees that you have to
get gas or carry lots of spare.
Don't know if that situation remains but the situation guaranteed maximum prices
without any hint of competition.
Aus-Kiwi said
05:52 PM Nov 5, 2021
Didnt have to fuel up with 350l tank . But I often top up . You NEVER know where the next fuel station is or have any ? We had to wait 4 days in NT a few years ago . Lucky it was a nice spot !!
What is will be. If you cannot afford it then your budget is too tight. Sorry but that is just my opinion only.
yobarr said
09:40 PM Nov 10, 2021
cjt55 wrote:
What is will be. If you cannot afford it then your budget is too tight. Sorry but that is just my opinion only.
I'm with you Colin.If you can't afford the fuel,you can't afford the car.Just cost me $254 to fuel up,and I couldn't care less.Cheers
Wanda said
09:00 AM Nov 11, 2021
It staggers me with some of the comments here at times, this is one of those times. It is obvious there are a lot of people on this and other forums, who for whatever reason, are on very very tight budgets, or in simple terms are not well off like some of us including myself. Would'nt it be nice to see some support for these fellow travellers and maybe just a little bit of sympathy, instead of a comment that Yobarr just posted above, "could'nt care less" No, not possible because with him and several of you others its all about you, or as they say, "all about me me me me" ! I will leave it there Hopefully the price of fuel drops soon for "all of us", because even I get pissed of with this blatant ripp off, and I can afford it!I sympathise with those on a tight budget or pension who are struggling but are still giving it a go. Ian
Rob Driver said
09:27 AM Nov 11, 2021
At the risk of causing a stagger
My take on the cost of fuel for travelling is that the overall spend is directly related to how far you drive in a set period.
Staying put in one place for 1 extra day per week of travel more than compensates for the 17% ( my observation) recent increase in the cost of diesel. ( similar for petrol) If this becomes a financial problem then you either have not budgeted correctly for your travelling or you cant afford to be doing what youre doing.
Or you could just let your vehicle decide.
-- Edited by Rob Driver on Thursday 11th of November 2021 09:28:57 AM
To answer the post first, we try not to let the cost of fuel interfere with the travels we plan, and will continue to take that attitude if we can.
I do agree with Wanda that it would be nice at times to see a bit more empathy to posters with different concerns. I doubt that will happen though.
To the point of my post though. I have always been interested in the view expressed by Rob here, but others at different times.
That is, that cost of fuel on a trip is a function of time. I beg to differ as whether you take 1 week, or 2 weeks to travel the distance, the fuel used will normally be the same. That is, the cost is always a function of distance.
Granted, the cost may be spread over 2 budget periods rather than 1 in my example, making it easier to find the money, but at the end of the day, you have still bought the same volume of fuel, at generally the same dollar cost, to travel the distance. Some may say that you benefit from price variations, but they are generally smaller if they exist in regional areas and so I think can be discounted pretty much.
At the same time, those proposing that the cost of fuel is lower if you travel slower, generally discount the additional costs of accomodation that may apply if you dont free camp, an additional day of food, and other such costs that may apply.
So, I agree that travel costs can be spread to perhaps better fit the budget available for the period, but if people are travelling with an amount to spend for a specific trip, I can see rising costs causing them to rethink where they go. As an aside, we did our first bigger trip during the GFC in 2008, and paid as high as $2.45 per litre for fuel at Barrow Creek on the Stuart Hwy. I have never paid near that since.
That said, now things are beginning to open up somewhat, I hope everyone is able to get back travelling how they wish soon.
-- Edited by TheHeaths on Thursday 11th of November 2021 10:47:22 AM
Warren-Pat_01 said
07:11 PM Nov 12, 2021
Going on the useless information going around Qld at the moment on Covid, is it a conspiracy to punish Australia for its stance on Climate Change - to get us to buy Electric Vehicles?
I wouldn't mind a Rivian but like a Dodge Ram, I doubt whether it would fit in my garage - after if I had the money to buy one!
Yep exactly. A good roadhouse to avoid. Fortunately we, like many others, carry sufficient fuel to by pass that joint.
I usually get either food or fuel from every roadhouse, on the long stretches
I also do not usually fill up at Nantawarra, (because of their much higher prices), but I do stop for food
I had a headwind, and decided to get $30 of splash and dash, (just in case), otherwise I would not have known the price
It was marginal if I would have reached Minillya Bridge, from Karratha, with the headwinds
that are all owned by the same person, and the distance guarantees that you have to
get gas or carry lots of spare.
Don't know if that situation remains but the situation guaranteed maximum prices
without any hint of competition.
The true cost of fuel
What it will do is less money at bakeries/maccas/junk food, crap we buy along the way.
Might be a good thing!
mixo
P.s family of 5 (2A and 3C)
Wikki camps app?
I use Fuel map.
Haha
Thats the attitude!
I'm with you Colin.If you can't afford the fuel,you can't afford the car.Just cost me $254 to fuel up,and I couldn't care less.Cheers
It staggers me with some of the comments here at times, this is one of those times.
It is obvious there are a lot of people on this and other forums, who for whatever reason, are on very very tight budgets, or in simple terms are not well off like some of us including myself.
Would'nt it be nice to see some support for these fellow travellers and maybe just a little bit of sympathy, instead of a comment that Yobarr just posted above, "could'nt care less"
No, not possible because with him and several of you others its all about you, or as they say, "all about me me me me" !
I will leave it there
Hopefully the price of fuel drops soon for "all of us", because even I get pissed of with this blatant ripp off, and I can afford it!I sympathise with those on a tight budget or pension who are struggling but are still giving it a go.
Ian
At the risk of causing a stagger
My take on the cost of fuel for travelling is that the overall spend is directly related to how far you drive in a set period.
Staying put in one place for 1 extra day per week of travel more than compensates for the 17% ( my observation) recent increase in the cost of diesel. ( similar for petrol)
If this becomes a financial problem then you either have not budgeted correctly for your travelling or you cant afford to be doing what youre doing.
Or you could just let your vehicle decide.
-- Edited by Rob Driver on Thursday 11th of November 2021 09:28:57 AM
To answer the post first, we try not to let the cost of fuel interfere with the travels we plan, and will continue to take that attitude if we can.
I do agree with Wanda that it would be nice at times to see a bit more empathy to posters with different concerns. I doubt that will happen though.
To the point of my post though. I have always been interested in the view expressed by Rob here, but others at different times.
That is, that cost of fuel on a trip is a function of time. I beg to differ as whether you take 1 week, or 2 weeks to travel the distance, the fuel used will normally be the same. That is, the cost is always a function of distance.
Granted, the cost may be spread over 2 budget periods rather than 1 in my example, making it easier to find the money, but at the end of the day, you have still bought the same volume of fuel, at generally the same dollar cost, to travel the distance. Some may say that you benefit from price variations, but they are generally smaller if they exist in regional areas and so I think can be discounted pretty much.
At the same time, those proposing that the cost of fuel is lower if you travel slower, generally discount the additional costs of accomodation that may apply if you dont free camp, an additional day of food, and other such costs that may apply.
So, I agree that travel costs can be spread to perhaps better fit the budget available for the period, but if people are travelling with an amount to spend for a specific trip, I can see rising costs causing them to rethink where they go. As an aside, we did our first bigger trip during the GFC in 2008, and paid as high as $2.45 per litre for fuel at Barrow Creek on the Stuart Hwy. I have never paid near that since.
That said, now things are beginning to open up somewhat, I hope everyone is able to get back travelling how they wish soon.
-- Edited by TheHeaths on Thursday 11th of November 2021 10:47:22 AM
I wouldn't mind a Rivian but like a Dodge Ram, I doubt whether it would fit in my garage - after if I had the money to buy one!