This is where the full report can be down loaded. Also pls note I don't just post an image without some sort proof or source. Unlike some here that post blank sheets of text with no information about its source.
I have only posted a part of the executive summary.
Also note its from Monash Uni pretty sure the writers will be qualified lol. Not just a Joe blow who nobody has met off the internet.
Having read the OP I'm left wondering how one person uses approx 100 litres of water a week when it is supplemented by 'natural' water supplies for ''non-potable use. We have 220 litres in two tanks for two of us & regularly manage 3 weeks on that (& can stretch it to 4 weeks if we know we going to need to). That's a massive difference of potable water use. Approx 100 litres per person per week vs approx 37 litres per person per week.
Craig1 said
04:02 PM Aug 31, 2022
Perhaps he is a " Clean Machine ? "
oldbloke said
09:19 PM Aug 31, 2022
The Boss and I get, at best, about 6 days from 240L when bush camping. That's about 20 L a day each. Includes drinking, shower every day, washing dishes etc.
Washing clothes happens at CVPs.
Perhaps the OP likes long showers & uses his washing machine with a genni.
Mike Harding said
09:27 AM Sep 1, 2022
Cuppa wrote:
Having read the OP I'm left wondering how one person uses approx 100 litres of water a week when it is supplemented by 'natural' water supplies for ''non-potable use. We have 220 litres in two tanks for two of us & regularly manage 3 weeks on that (& can stretch it to 4 weeks if we know we going to need to). That's a massive difference of potable water use. Approx 100 litres per person per week vs approx 37 litres per person per week.
I drink a lot.
I don't use all 200L, I don't know how much I use over 14 days but as I need to go into town for food etc then I may as well get potable water too, would you not agree?
No doubt were I and my caravan lost in the desert in January I could make 200L last an awfully long time but I'm not and I don't want to.
This is my home and as a nomad is the way I live but I wish to be comfortable and relaxed and not stressing about every drop of water or watt of electricity or putting on two jumpers when it's cold. This is my life, it is not an endurance test.
Whenarewethere said
11:04 AM Sep 1, 2022
It is dangerous to drink too much water. Human red blood cells are round & will only expand a limited amount before damage. Whereas a camel's red blood cells are oval & will expand a lot more.
Mike Harding said
12:51 PM Sep 1, 2022
Did I say it was water?
Cuppa said
02:25 PM Sep 1, 2022
Mike Harding wrote:
Cuppa wrote:
Having read the OP I'm left wondering how one person uses approx 100 litres of water a week when it is supplemented by 'natural' water supplies for ''non-potable use. We have 220 litres in two tanks for two of us & regularly manage 3 weeks on that (& can stretch it to 4 weeks if we know we going to need to). That's a massive difference of potable water use. Approx 100 litres per person per week vs approx 37 litres per person per week.
I drink a lot.
I don't use all 200L, I don't know how much I use over 14 days but as I need to go into town for food etc then I may as well get potable water too, would you not agree?
No doubt were I and my caravan lost in the desert in January I could make 200L last an awfully long time but I'm not and I don't want to.
This is my home and as a nomad is the way I live but I wish to be comfortable and relaxed and not stressing about every drop of water or watt of electricity or putting on two jumpers when it's cold. This is my life, it is not an endurance test.
Of course I would agree. 'Top up whenever you have the opportunity & the water is good' is what we do. Our default style is 'water conservation mode' whenever we don't know where the next water is coming from, which tends to be whenever we are on the move, as our preference is for remote areas. It's our life too. And truthfully it has never felt like an endurance test. (Apart from the two week exception when at Walcott inlet at the end of the Munja track - having taken less than full tanks to keep weight down & all non potable water was muddy salt water lifted with rope & bucket from the hugely tidal creek - to avoid being croc tucker - letting it stand to settle & scooping the clear water off the top to wash ourselves & dishes. Whilst the hot showers we had once back to relative civilisation (Mt Elizabeth Station, off the Gibb River Road) were especially welcome, the 'endurance' aspect of our experience there paled against all the other aspects which made it the best thing we've ever done travelling-wise.
Whenarewethere said
03:53 PM Sep 1, 2022
Adcock Gorge on Gibb River Road. Obviously one would never use soap, but the length of time in the water hole will more than clean everywhere!
-- Edited by Whenarewethere on Thursday 1st of September 2022 03:55:33 PM
86GTS said
06:11 PM Sep 1, 2022
I'd suggest going into town more frequently with ordinary plastic water containers. It appears that we camp in similar locations to you, its not as though you're camping in the middle of the Simpson Desert, there's an IGA supermarket/bottle shop & a tap at a sporting complex just down the road at the nearest small town. The figures that you quoted in your OP seem excessive, there are two of us & we use half the water that you do. Camping near lakes & rivers makes things even easier because you only need to find drinking water. We love the feeling of isolation very much like you & it's so easy to achieve in rural regions of Victoria where the locations aren't postedon Wikicamps. Enjoy your solitude.
Meredith said
09:19 PM Sep 2, 2022
We have a 100 litre Fleximake water bladder that sits in the rear footwell, only fill it when needed, usually in situations like you describe where we are camped longer term somewhere we can drive to get water leaving the van behind. We have had it for 5 years, it regularly gets rolled up and put away and its still in great condition, no plastic taste from the water either.
This is where the full report can be down loaded. Also pls note I don't just post an image without some sort proof or source. Unlike some here that post blank sheets of text with no information about its source.
I have only posted a part of the executive summary.
Also note its from Monash Uni pretty sure the writers will be qualified lol. Not just a Joe blow who nobody has met off the internet.
https://www.monash.edu/__data/assets/pdf_file/0019/217027/Four-wheel-drive-vehicle-crash-involvement-risk,-rollover-risk-and-injury-rate-in-comparison-to-other-passenger-vehicles-estimates-based-on-Australian-and-New-Zealand-crash-data-and-on-New-Zealand-motor-vehicle-register-data.pdf
Note: it talks about 4x4s and high centre of gravity. I stand by my earlier statement that loading up the roof is not smart.
This image may be better.
Washing clothes happens at CVPs.
Perhaps the OP likes long showers & uses his washing machine with a genni.
I drink a lot.
I don't use all 200L, I don't know how much I use over 14 days but as I need to go into town for food etc then I may as well get potable water too, would you not agree?
No doubt were I and my caravan lost in the desert in January I could make 200L last an awfully long time but I'm not and I don't want to.
This is my home and as a nomad is the way I live but I wish to be comfortable and relaxed and not stressing about every drop of water or watt of electricity or putting on two jumpers when it's cold. This is my life, it is not an endurance test.
It is dangerous to drink too much water. Human red blood cells are round & will only expand a limited amount before damage. Whereas a camel's red blood cells are oval & will expand a lot more.
Did I say it was water?
Of course I would agree. 'Top up whenever you have the opportunity & the water is good' is what we do. Our default style is 'water conservation mode' whenever we don't know where the next water is coming from, which tends to be whenever we are on the move, as our preference is for remote areas. It's our life too. And truthfully it has never felt like an endurance test. (Apart from the two week exception when at Walcott inlet at the end of the Munja track - having taken less than full tanks to keep weight down & all non potable water was muddy salt water lifted with rope & bucket from the hugely tidal creek - to avoid being croc tucker - letting it stand to settle & scooping the clear water off the top to wash ourselves & dishes. Whilst the hot showers we had once back to relative civilisation (Mt Elizabeth Station, off the Gibb River Road) were especially welcome, the 'endurance' aspect of our experience there paled against all the other aspects which made it the best thing we've ever done travelling-wise.
Adcock Gorge on Gibb River Road. Obviously one would never use soap, but the length of time in the water hole will more than clean everywhere!
-- Edited by Whenarewethere on Thursday 1st of September 2022 03:55:33 PM
I'd suggest going into town more frequently with ordinary plastic water containers.
It appears that we camp in similar locations to you, its not as though you're camping in the middle of the Simpson Desert, there's an IGA supermarket/bottle shop & a tap at a sporting complex just down the road at the nearest small town.
The figures that you quoted in your OP seem excessive, there are two of us & we use half the water that you do.
Camping near lakes & rivers makes things even easier because you only need to find drinking water.
We love the feeling of isolation very much like you & it's so easy to achieve in rural regions of Victoria where the locations aren't postedon Wikicamps.
Enjoy your solitude.
We have a 100 litre Fleximake water bladder that sits in the rear footwell, only fill it when needed, usually in situations like you describe where we are camped longer term somewhere we can drive to get water leaving the van behind. We have had it for 5 years, it regularly gets rolled up and put away and its still in great condition, no plastic taste from the water either.