Well, actually you gave very little info. "NW Victoria" which is pretty vague TBH.
You not seeing roos means nothing. I guess you now know the answer.
Glad you appreciated our efforts to assist.
We still need a "sarcasm" emotion.
-- Edited by oldbloke on Tuesday 13th of September 2022 09:23:57 PM
yobarr said
09:58 PM Sep 13, 2022
Ivan 01 wrote:
I believe it may be one of those rare four toed sloths.
They have been driven to near extinction by being struck by caravans that aren't using WDHs and thus causing understeer due to excess weight on the tow bar.
Many drivers claim they just cant seem to avoid them even though they reef the steering wheel in the hope of avoiding them.
I believe that there are current proposals to built a sloth proof fence in the hope of preserving the species.
Ivan, it seems that again we are in concurrence, with just the one rider. Although these four toed sloths "have been driven to near extinction by being struck by caravans that aren't using WDHs", you haven't mentioned the contribution to this decimation of sloths by the plethora of light-weight twin-cabs that have had WDHs fitted in a vain attempt to safely tow 3500kg vans. Can't be done, but try telling that to people like the clown that I encountered today in a WA Goldfields town.. He had a nice Ford Ranger with an extra-large tinny mounted atop a huge aluminium canopy which was full of "essential stuff", including an outboard for the tinny. Caravan was a 22' model with a TARE of 2860kg and ATM of 3500kg. On the drawbar of this van he had mounted two HUGE toolboxes, and in front of these toolboxes, just clear of the car's tray, were 2 full-sized trailbikes, along with a couple of jerry cans. On the rear bumper, perhaps in an attempt to 'balance things' he had the obligatory spare wheels, along with a flash boat-launcher to handle the oversized tinnie. Stupidity in the extreme. Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Tuesday 13th of September 2022 10:08:02 PM
oldbloke said
10:59 PM Sep 13, 2022
yobarr wrote:
Ivan 01 wrote:
I believe it may be one of those rare four toed sloths.
They have been driven to near extinction by being struck by caravans that aren't using WDHs and thus causing understeer due to excess weight on the tow bar.
Many drivers claim they just cant seem to avoid them even though they reef the steering wheel in the hope of avoiding them.
I believe that there are current proposals to built a sloth proof fence in the hope of preserving the species.
Ivan, it seems that again we are in concurrence, with just the one rider. Although these four toed sloths "have been driven to near extinction by being struck by caravans that aren't using WDHs", you haven't mentioned the contribution to this decimation of sloths by the plethora of light-weight twin-cabs that have had WDHs fitted in a vain attempt to safely tow 3500kg vans. Can't be done, but try telling that to people like the clown that I encountered today in a WA Goldfields town.. He had a nice Ford Ranger with an extra-large tinny mounted atop a huge aluminium canopy which was full of "essential stuff", including an outboard for the tinny. Caravan was a 22' model with a TARE of 2860kg and ATM of 3500kg. On the drawbar of this van he had mounted two HUGE toolboxes, and in front of these toolboxes, just clear of the car's tray, were 2 full-sized trailbikes, along with a couple of jerry cans. On the rear bumper, perhaps in an attempt to 'balance things' he had the obligatory spare wheels, along with a flash boat-launcher to handle the oversized tinnie. Stupidity in the extreme. Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Tuesday 13th of September 2022 10:08:02 PM
Once a again our resident Xspurt manages to bring weights into a totally unrelated topic.
The greatest load of rubbish I have ever had the displeasure to see on any forum.
Dougwe said
05:49 AM Sep 14, 2022
It is now time Webmaster got rid of the continuing trouble maker that brings weights into a thread about what looks like a animal foot print. The forum will be a much better place and back to what it once was. So many good contributing members have disappeared due to the continued carry on by one person and I'm sure they will return.
This Grey Nomad forum has been and can be again a great place of sharing and learning with a little fun thrown in.
Keep Safe out there everyone.
Ivan 01 said
07:08 AM Sep 14, 2022
In my attempt to bring a little humour into a topic that was doomed the moment the first key was struck, I added the cause of the sloths near extinction.
As fare as my research extends there is no concrete evidence of the makes of tow vehicles that are invading our highways while excluding the fitment of a WDH system.
When a deceased sloth does appear on the shoulders of our highways the obvious evidence as to the cause of death is the black marks laid on the bitumen by the vehicle and van snaking all over the road while trying to brake and steer around the poor animal.
It is fortunate that our authorities do show some care toward the welfare of these creatures as is shown in the picture below of a sloth fitted with a backpack so that those concerned can monitor their movements and to also ensure that when they leave the safety of the trees that they have a packed lunch and a cool drink particularly when they become stranded on the other side of the highway.
To those who choose to operate without weight distribution control, could you please slow down in sloth country.
In reply to the previous two posts could I respectfully point out that it was not I who introduced WDHs to this threaddespite the assertions of a couple of members? My post was intended to be an equally lighthearted response to Ivan's words, (highlighted) but I also told of an example I witnessed yesterday where a caravanner had expected a WDH to not only transfer (distribute) weight, but to somehow miraculously get rid of that weight altogether. The first portion of my post was intended as a continuation of the "fun" introduced by Ivan, whilst the second part is indeed fact. Furthermore, there is no " rubbish" anywhere in my post, contrary to a claim by a member who seems to devote an inordinate amount of his time to my denigration, perhaps in response to my exposure on the forum of his blatant prevarication regarding our previous communications via PM. Indeed, never have I posted anything that I cannot prove to be true. If anybody finds my advice on weights and dynamics to be unpalatable, or too complicated for them to digest, all I can ask is "Don't shoot the messenger". The fact that my advice frequently is disputed by people who clearly don't WANT to know is perhaps one of the reasons that well-respected members now prefer to contact me via PM when seeking help or advice with weights? Invariably these members state that it is clear to them that I know what I'm talking about but they are reluctant to "rock the boat" on the open forum. Sad but true. In my responses on the open forum to queries from members about weights, surely it would be unconscionable of me to simply post what these members want to hear, rather than present the facts? Again, could I respectfully point out that it was not I that introduced WDHs to this thread? Hopefully this helps you understand my position? Cheers
P.S Could I furthermore point out that whilst I was busy preparing my post, Ivan had offered the post below. My post is thus in addition to, rather than in response to, Ivan's post. Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 14th of September 2022 04:28:30 PM
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 14th of September 2022 04:42:55 PM
I believe it may be one of those rare four toed sloths.
They have been driven to near extinction by being struck by caravans that aren't using WDHs and thus causing understeer due to excess weight on the tow bar.
Many drivers claim they just cant seem to avoid them even though they reef the steering wheel in the hope of avoiding them.
I believe that there are current proposals to built a sloth proof fence in the hope of preserving the species.
Ivan, it seems that again we are in concurrence, with just the one rider. Although these four toed sloths "have been driven to near extinction by being struck by caravans that aren't using WDHs", you haven't mentioned the contribution to this decimation of sloths by the plethora of light-weight twin-cabs that have had WDHs fitted in a vain attempt to safely tow 3500kg vans. Can't be done, but try telling that to people like the clown that I encountered today in a WA Goldfields town..
He had a nice Ford Ranger with an extra-large tinny mounted atop a huge aluminium canopy which was full of "essential stuff", including an outboard for the tinny. Caravan was a 22' model with a TARE of 2860kg and ATM of 3500kg. On the drawbar of this van he had mounted two HUGE toolboxes, and in front of these toolboxes, just clear of the car's tray, were 2 full-sized trailbikes, along with a couple of jerry cans. On the rear bumper, perhaps in an attempt to 'balance things' he had the obligatory spare wheels, along with a flash boat-launcher to handle the oversized tinnie. Stupidity in the extreme. Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Tuesday 13th of September 2022 10:08:02 PM
oldbloke said
08:17 AM Sep 14, 2022
yobarr wrote:
In reply to the previous two posts could I respectfully point out that it was not I who introduced WDHs to this thread? My post was intended to be an equally lighthearted response to Ivan's words, (highlighted) but I also told of an example I witnessed yesterday where a caravanner had expected a WDH to not only transfer (distribute) weight, but to somehow miraculously get rid of that weight altogether. The first portion of my post was intended as a continuation of the "fun" introduced by Ivan, whilst the second part is indeed fact. Furthermore, there is no "rubbish" anywhere in my post, contrary to a claim by a member who seems to devote an inordinate amount of his time to my denigration, perhaps in response to my exposure on the forum of his blatant prevarication regarding our previous communications via PM. Indeed, never have I posted anything that I cannot prove to be true. If anybody finds my advice on weights and dynamics to be unpalatable, or too complicated for them to digest, all I can ask is "Don't shoot the messenger". The fact that my advice frequently is disputed by people who clearly don't WANT to know is perhaps one of the reasons that well-respected members now prefer to contact me via PM when seeking help or advice with weights? Invariably these members state that it is clear to them that I know what I'm talking about but they are reluctant to "rock the boat" on the open forum. Sad but true. In my responses on the open forum to queries from members about weights, surely it would be unconscionable of me to simply post what these members want to hear, rather than present the facts? Again, could I respectfully point out that it was not I that introduced WDHs to this thread? Hopefully this helps you understand my position? Cheers
P.S Could I furthermore point out that whilst I was busy preparing my post, Ivan had offered the post below. My post is thus in addition to, rather than in response to, Ivan's post. Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 14th of September 2022 08:04:25 AM
Most of your previous post is about an apparently over weight rig in the Gold fields.
Therefore your explanation above is clearly nonsense.
Far more likely your intention was to divert the thread to weights again in am attempt to big-note yourself.
In your words pathetic. All you are doing is pushing members away to other better managed forums.
Clarky 1 said
10:57 AM Sep 14, 2022
You are a funny bugga Ivan
Cupie said
02:19 PM Sep 14, 2022
Dougwe wrote:
It is now time Webmaster got rid of the continuing trouble maker that brings weights into a thread about what looks like a animal foot print. The forum will be a much better place and back to what it once was. So many good contributing members have disappeared due to the continued carry on by one person and I'm sure they will return.
This Grey Nomad forum has been and can be again a great place of sharing and learning with a little fun thrown in.
Keep Safe out there everyone.
Sorry Dougwe, (I realise that you are a popular guy on the forum & fully expect that the usual suspects will spring to your defence & beat me up) whilst I accept that you are entitled to your view, I disagree strongly & find that person's posts no more offending than several others who persistently bag him while constantly & blatantly perusing their particular hobby horses.
Despite the negative comments about this forum from some members, I have tried several others & find this one by far the best. If any poster or topic offends, then the easy solution is to ignore them & get on with life.
Back on topic, I had great difficulty in getting a good view of the 'tracks' but despite my revious jocular reference to Drop Bears I would think that they were probably made by a Roo.
Hoo Roo
KJB said
03:59 PM Sep 14, 2022
Cupie wrote:
Dougwe wrote:
It is now time Webmaster got rid of the continuing trouble maker that brings weights into a thread about what looks like a animal foot print. The forum will be a much better place and back to what it once was. So many good contributing members have disappeared due to the continued carry on by one person and I'm sure they will return.
This Grey Nomad forum has been and can be again a great place of sharing and learning with a little fun thrown in.
Keep Safe out there everyone.
Sorry Dougwe, (I realise that you are a popular guy on the forum & fully expect that the usual suspects will spring to your defence & beat me up) whilst I accept that you are entitled to your view, I disagree strongly & find that person's posts no more offending than several others who persistently bag him while constantly & blatantly perusing their particular hobby horses.
Despite the negative comments about this forum from some members, I have tried several others & find this one by far the best. If any poster or topic offends, then the easy solution is to ignore them & get on with life.
Back on topic, I had great difficulty in getting a good view of the 'tracks' but despite my revious jocular reference to Drop Bears I would think that they were probably made by a Roo.
Hoo Roo
Well said Cupie........ KB
Plain Truth said
04:27 PM Sep 14, 2022
X3
Bobdown said
04:41 PM Sep 14, 2022
Cupie wrote:
Dougwe wrote:
It is now time Webmaster got rid of the continuing trouble maker that brings weights into a thread about what looks like a animal foot print. The forum will be a much better place and back to what it once was. So many good contributing members have disappeared due to the continued carry on by one person and I'm sure they will return.
This Grey Nomad forum has been and can be again a great place of sharing and learning with a little fun thrown in.
Keep Safe out there everyone.
Sorry Dougwe, (I realise that you are a popular guy on the forum & fully expect that the usual suspects will spring to your defence & beat me up) whilst I accept that you are entitled to your view, I disagree strongly & find that person's posts no more offending than several others who persistently bag him while constantly & blatantly perusing their particular hobby horses.
Despite the negative comments about this forum from some members, I have tried several others & find this one by far the best. If any poster or topic offends, then the easy solution is to ignore them & get on with life.
Back on topic, I had great difficulty in getting a good view of the 'tracks' but despite my previous jocular reference to Drop Bears I would think that they were probably made by a Roo.
Hoo Roo
Cupie, you obviously had good dealings with our resident 79 series owner, and not all he says is rubbish, but there are better ways of communicating your knowledge than his.
Arrogant, opinionated, repetitious and blinkered are a few words to describe his posts, a bit more flexibility and understanding of others would not go astray.
Cheers Bob
Plain Truth said
05:08 PM Sep 14, 2022
Bobdown wrote:
Cupie wrote:
Dougwe wrote:
It is now time Webmaster got rid of the continuing trouble maker that brings weights into a thread about what looks like a animal foot print. The forum will be a much better place and back to what it once was. So many good contributing members have disappeared due to the continued carry on by one person and I'm sure they will return.
This Grey Nomad forum has been and can be again a great place of sharing and learning with a little fun thrown in.
Keep Safe out there everyone.
Sorry Dougwe, (I realise that you are a popular guy on the forum & fully expect that the usual suspects will spring to your defence & beat me up) whilst I accept that you are entitled to your view, I disagree strongly & find that person's posts no more offending than several others who persistently bag him while constantly & blatantly perusing their particular hobby horses.
Despite the negative comments about this forum from some members, I have tried several others & find this one by far the best. If any poster or topic offends, then the easy solution is to ignore them & get on with life.
Back on topic, I had great difficulty in getting a good view of the 'tracks' but despite my previous jocular reference to Drop Bears I would think that they were probably made by a Roo.
Hoo Roo
Cupie, you obviously had good dealings with our resident 79 series owner, and not all he says is rubbish, but there are better ways of communicating your knowledge than his.
Arrogant, opinionated, repetitious and blinkered are a few words to describe his posts, a bit more flexibility and understanding of others would not go astray.
Cheers Bob
As you said Bob,not all "he says is rubbish"
But there is deliberate baiting to set him up.And when he replies,there are those who can't wait to sink their boots in.
So who is at fault.
dogbox said
05:31 PM Sep 14, 2022
well mike we may get to the bottom of this question in regards to the ID of your mysterious creatures foot prints sooner or later , you might have to get one of those trail cam things or sit beside the trail for hours till it comes back around again
yobarr said
05:49 PM Sep 14, 2022
Bobdown wrote:
Cupie wrote:
Sorry Dougwe, (I realise that you are a popular guy on the forum & fully expect that the usual suspects will spring to your defence & beat me up) whilst I accept that you are entitled to your view, I disagree strongly & find that person's posts no more offending than several others who persistently bag him while constantly & blatantly perusing their particular hobby horses.
Despite the negative comments about this forum from some members, I have tried several others & find this one by far the best. If any poster or topic offends, then the easy solution is to ignore them & get on with life.
Back on topic, I had great difficulty in getting a good view of the 'tracks' but despite my previous jocular reference to Drop Bears I would think that they were probably made by a Roo.
Hoo Roo
Cupie, you obviously had good dealings with our resident 79 series owner, and not all he says is rubbish, but there are better ways of communicating your knowledge than his.
Arrogant, opinionated, repetitious and blinkered are a few words to describe his posts, a bit more flexibility and understanding of others would not go astray.
Cheers Bob
Bob, your opinion is noted, as are the strong words you've used in your post. However, with weights there is no room for opinion. Your weights are either right or they're wrong. Of necessity, any advice given has to be "repetitious, blinkered and opinionated", as is the case with any learning. There can be no variation, but please don't shoot the messenger. Can you imagine the mayhem that would be created if a maths teacher at one school taught "2+2=4" while another teacher taught that 2+2=7". As is the case in any teaching, there is no room for opinion when discussing weights. With regard to your comment that I am arrogant, that again is your opinion, to which you're certainly entitled, but stooping to calling someone "arrogant" is generally the action of someone who has been proven to be wrong about something they've taken a definite stand on. Despite regular insults from at least one member who seems to understand little, always I have resisted the temptation to stoop to their level. As an aside, I would like you to know that it was not me who initially announced to the forum that my car is a 79, such advice being provided by someone who was well aware of my contributions to another forum regarding that particular car. Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 14th of September 2022 07:22:41 PM
Now the jokes are over and many have ruled out a drop bear a sloth and maybe even a bata shoe
I would like to have a go.
From what I see it is a kangaroo that has been at rest on all fours and has moved off hastily when startled.
If we observe the right hand print it indicates to me at least that it is not clear as the left one due possibly to the animals need to move away quickly and therefore disturbing what would be a perfect print if just resting quietly.
When shooting Roos once the shot is fired the others will generally always move off away from the target and they push away with whatever front foot is going to push them first into the upright position and in the required direction to flee.. Once that shot is fired they usually will all remain upright until they settle down.
They of course adopt all fours for eating but by the look of the ground around Mike Hardings Bata the food is slim pickings.
There is very little other detail so dont hold it against me if I am incorrect.
BTW I am not inferring that MH was out Roo shooting.
yobarr said
06:51 PM Sep 14, 2022
Plain Truth
As you said Bob,not all "he says is rubbish"
But there is deliberate baiting to set him up.And when he replies,there are those who can't wait to sink their boots in.
So who is at fault.
Hi Phil. Could I take this opportunity to thank you, Kevin (KJB) and Cupie for your kind words, and for your support. There is one member who consistently and persistently baits me, but it is so easy to confuse him with logic that it eventually becomes boring, although I must admit that I am surprised by his tenacity. Always I remember the words of Desiderata "Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant. They too have their story". (Think I've got that right? 1960s High School) Never has it been my intention to denigrate anybody, but if correcting their apparent ignorance of the workings of physics and dynamics causes others to become angered, so be it. "There is none so blind as he who will not see". Thanks again to Plain Truth, KJB and Cupie for your support. Next week I'm back on the Road Train, again working silly hours, so I will not be able to spend too much time following the forum. Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 14th of September 2022 09:08:07 PM
It was me who mentioned the WDH in this topic. It was done in a complete attempt at humour which at the time was the trend of the posts. I made nothing of the whys and why nots. I did mention the lack of a WDH will create an understeer situation in most cases, but we all knew that. Honestly Yobarr you deserve everything you get on this forum when you come back with consistent replies of how correct you are and how wrong so many others are when it comes to vehicles and weights.
You actually need to be congratulated in your ability to cover all your points of the failure of others to comply and their non use of the 79 series in one short post. Included in that you managed to point out that it was someone else (me) that mentioned a WDH in the topic and all while including, in a later post, a picture of you (supposedly) posing in front of your big lorry while getting ready to head off yet again on another adventure.
I would not doubt that again in humour, I told a story of how Mike Harding chased an unidentified animal away from his camp with the left hand bar of his WDH and in your next post you turned that to claim your agenda.
*It was a joke Joyce*
To Mike and the rest of the forum I apologise. I had no idea that Yobarr would run his typing hand from where it normally is, directly onto the keyboard to prove to us all once again that we dont need a WDH and we do need a 79 series.
Has anyone noticed how young Yobarr looks in that pic. Not too bad really for someone who should be 120 y.o.
-- Edited by Ivan 01 on Thursday 15th of September 2022 10:03:15 AM
oldbloke said
12:17 AM Sep 16, 2022
Hi Ivan,
There was no need to apologise. It was very obvious8 that you were joking.
As usual yoborr posted with the intention of derailing the thread. He does this of course to big-note himself and to agrevate other members. No other reason.
I believe this because in real life he has absolutely nothing to brag about. Perhaps even has self esteem issues. And tries to some how compensate here.
An insult is not an insult if it's true.
I note that the person in the image is of heavy build, about 50 and has dark hair. The last image he posted of "himself" from behind had grey hair, pony tail and very light build if I recall correctly. Mmmmm.
Of course that's if he even has a truck licence.
Of course truck licences are handed out after a few days training so it's possible he has one. My question is how long with the gear box last while he is driving this tim?
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Brodie Allen said
08:31 AM Sep 16, 2022
back to what I hope is intelligent conversation:
I'm sure a roo has 5 "fingers" on the front "hands". There seems to be 3 + a thumb in the pics.
See rgren2's pic.
And a roo feeding or just sniffing about enough to put his hands to ground with enough force to leave prints like the ones in the pics always has the hind legs up close to the body to take the majority of the weight.
Actually very emu looking but wrong number of digits.
Were there other impressions leading up to and away from the site? I hardly think that that there would not be any.
Without associated marks, one is inclined to think that the marks might have been made deliberately by a kids toy or the like?
Brodie
-- Edited by Brodie Allen on Friday 16th of September 2022 08:35:04 AM
-- Edited by Brodie Allen on Friday 16th of September 2022 08:35:25 AM
Brodie Allen said
08:45 AM Sep 16, 2022
I have sent a pic of the print to an associate in remote Australia - if
one of his boys doesn't know it then it is unlikely to be an Aussie
animal.
Because of the remoteness and other "communication" matters
I don't expect a quick answer and maybe not at all.
Internet is a rare tool up there, but is operative.
Brodie.
86GTS said
11:56 AM Sep 16, 2022
I reckon you made them yourself with one of these.
Brodie Allen said
01:50 PM Sep 22, 2022
Tjandamurra say is Kadicha man tracks tricked by Shaman to hide away.
Bata Scout school shoes?
Sorry.
Well, actually you gave very little info. "NW Victoria" which is pretty vague TBH.
You not seeing roos means nothing. I guess you now know the answer.
Glad you appreciated our efforts to assist.
We still need a "sarcasm" emotion.
-- Edited by oldbloke on Tuesday 13th of September 2022 09:23:57 PM
Ivan, it seems that again we are in concurrence, with just the one rider. Although these four toed sloths "have been driven to near extinction by being struck by caravans that aren't using WDHs", you haven't mentioned the contribution to this decimation of sloths by the plethora of light-weight twin-cabs that have had WDHs fitted in a vain attempt to safely tow 3500kg vans. Can't be done, but try telling that to people like the clown that I encountered today in a WA Goldfields town.. He had a nice Ford Ranger with an extra-large tinny mounted atop a huge aluminium canopy which was full of "essential stuff", including an outboard for the tinny. Caravan was a 22' model with a TARE of 2860kg and ATM of 3500kg. On the drawbar of this van he had mounted two HUGE toolboxes, and in front of these toolboxes, just clear of the car's tray, were 2 full-sized trailbikes, along with a couple of jerry cans. On the rear bumper, perhaps in an attempt to 'balance things' he had the obligatory spare wheels, along with a flash boat-launcher to handle the oversized tinnie. Stupidity in the extreme. Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Tuesday 13th of September 2022 10:08:02 PM
Once a again our resident Xspurt manages to bring weights into a totally unrelated topic.
The greatest load of rubbish I have ever had the displeasure to see on any forum.
This Grey Nomad forum has been and can be again a great place of sharing and learning with a little fun thrown in.
Keep Safe out there everyone.
In my attempt to bring a little humour into a topic that was doomed the moment the first key was struck, I added the cause of the sloths near extinction.
As fare as my research extends there is no concrete evidence of the makes of tow vehicles that are invading our highways while excluding the fitment of a WDH system.
When a deceased sloth does appear on the shoulders of our highways the obvious evidence as to the cause of death is the black marks laid on the bitumen by the vehicle and van snaking all over the road while trying to brake and steer around the poor animal.
It is fortunate that our authorities do show some care toward the welfare of these creatures as is shown in the picture below of a sloth fitted with a backpack so that those concerned can monitor their movements and to also ensure that when they leave the safety of the trees that they have a packed lunch and a cool drink particularly when they become stranded on the other side of the highway.
To those who choose to operate without weight distribution control, could you please slow down in sloth country.
In reply to the previous two posts could I respectfully point out that it was not I who introduced WDHs to this thread despite the assertions of a couple of members? My post was intended to be an equally lighthearted response to Ivan's words, (highlighted) but I also told of an example I witnessed yesterday where a caravanner had expected a WDH to not only transfer (distribute) weight, but to somehow miraculously get rid of that weight altogether. The first portion of my post was intended as a continuation of the "fun" introduced by Ivan, whilst the second part is indeed fact. Furthermore, there is no " rubbish" anywhere in my post, contrary to a claim by a member who seems to devote an inordinate amount of his time to my denigration, perhaps in response to my exposure on the forum of his blatant prevarication regarding our previous communications via PM. Indeed, never have I posted anything that I cannot prove to be true. If anybody finds my advice on weights and dynamics to be unpalatable, or too complicated for them to digest, all I can ask is "Don't shoot the messenger". The fact that my advice frequently is disputed by people who clearly don't WANT to know is perhaps one of the reasons that well-respected members now prefer to contact me via PM when seeking help or advice with weights? Invariably these members state that it is clear to them that I know what I'm talking about but they are reluctant to "rock the boat" on the open forum. Sad but true. In my responses on the open forum to queries from members about weights, surely it would be unconscionable of me to simply post what these members want to hear, rather than present the facts? Again, could I respectfully point out that it was not I that introduced WDHs to this thread? Hopefully this helps you understand my position? Cheers
P.S Could I furthermore point out that whilst I was busy preparing my post, Ivan had offered the post below. My post is thus in addition to, rather than in response to, Ivan's post. Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 14th of September 2022 04:28:30 PM
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 14th of September 2022 04:42:55 PM
Most of your previous post is about an apparently over weight rig in the Gold fields.
Therefore your explanation above is clearly nonsense.
Far more likely your intention was to divert the thread to weights again in am attempt to big-note yourself.
In your words pathetic. All you are doing is pushing members away to other better managed forums.
You are a funny bugga Ivan
Sorry Dougwe, (I realise that you are a popular guy on the forum & fully expect that the usual suspects will spring to your defence & beat me up) whilst I accept that you are entitled to your view, I disagree strongly & find that person's posts no more offending than several others who persistently bag him while constantly & blatantly perusing their particular hobby horses.
Despite the negative comments about this forum from some members, I have tried several others & find this one by far the best. If any poster or topic offends, then the easy solution is to ignore them & get on with life.
Back on topic, I had great difficulty in getting a good view of the 'tracks' but despite my revious jocular reference to Drop Bears I would think that they were probably made by a Roo.
Hoo Roo
Well said Cupie........ KB
X3
Cupie, you obviously had good dealings with our resident 79 series owner, and not all he says is rubbish, but there are better ways of communicating your knowledge than his.
Arrogant, opinionated, repetitious and blinkered are a few words to describe his posts, a bit more flexibility and understanding of others would not go astray.
Cheers Bob
As you said Bob,not all "he says is rubbish"
But there is deliberate baiting to set him up.And when he replies,there are those who can't wait to sink their boots in.
So who is at fault.
Bob, your opinion is noted, as are the strong words you've used in your post. However, with weights there is no room for opinion. Your weights are either right or they're wrong. Of necessity, any advice given has to be "repetitious, blinkered and opinionated", as is the case with any learning. There can be no variation, but please don't shoot the messenger. Can you imagine the mayhem that would be created if a maths teacher at one school taught "2+2=4" while another teacher taught that 2+2=7". As is the case in any teaching, there is no room for opinion when discussing weights. With regard to your comment that I am arrogant, that again is your opinion, to which you're certainly entitled, but stooping to calling someone "arrogant" is generally the action of someone who has been proven to be wrong about something they've taken a definite stand on. Despite regular insults from at least one member who seems to understand little, always I have resisted the temptation to stoop to their level. As an aside, I would like you to know that it was not me who initially announced to the forum that my car is a 79, such advice being provided by someone who was well aware of my contributions to another forum regarding that particular car. Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 14th of September 2022 07:22:41 PM
Now the jokes are over and many have ruled out a drop bear a sloth and maybe even a bata shoe
I would like to have a go.
From what I see it is a kangaroo that has been at rest on all fours and has moved off hastily when startled.
If we observe the right hand print it indicates to me at least that it is not clear as the left one due possibly to the animals need to move away quickly and therefore disturbing what would be a perfect print if just resting quietly.
When shooting Roos once the shot is fired the others will generally always move off away from the target and they push away with whatever front foot is going to push them first into the upright position and in the required direction to flee.. Once that shot is fired they usually will all remain upright until they settle down.
They of course adopt all fours for eating but by the look of the ground around Mike Hardings Bata the food is slim pickings.
There is very little other detail so dont hold it against me if I am incorrect.
BTW I am not inferring that MH was out Roo shooting.
Hi Phil. Could I take this opportunity to thank you, Kevin (KJB) and Cupie for your kind words, and for your support. There is one member who consistently and persistently baits me, but it is so easy to confuse him with logic that it eventually becomes boring, although I must admit that I am surprised by his tenacity. Always I remember the words of Desiderata "Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant. They too have their story". (Think I've got that right? 1960s High School) Never has it been my intention to denigrate anybody, but if correcting their apparent ignorance of the workings of physics and dynamics causes others to become angered, so be it. "There is none so blind as he who will not see". Thanks again to Plain Truth, KJB and Cupie for your support. Next week I'm back on the Road Train, again working silly hours, so I will not be able to spend too much time following the forum. Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 14th of September 2022 09:08:07 PM
Good morning Yobarr,
It was me who mentioned the WDH in this topic.
It was done in a complete attempt at humour which at the time was the trend of the posts.
I made nothing of the whys and why nots.
I did mention the lack of a WDH will create an understeer situation in most cases, but we all knew that.
Honestly Yobarr you deserve everything you get on this forum when you come back with consistent replies of how correct you are and how wrong so many others are when it comes to vehicles and weights.
You actually need to be congratulated in your ability to cover all your points of the failure of others to comply and their non use of the 79 series in one short post.
Included in that you managed to point out that it was someone else (me) that mentioned a WDH in the topic and all while including, in a later post, a picture of you (supposedly) posing in front of your big lorry while getting ready to head off yet again on another adventure.
I would not doubt that again in humour, I told a story of how Mike Harding chased an unidentified animal away from his camp with the left hand bar of his WDH and in your next post you turned that to claim your agenda.
*It was a joke Joyce*
To Mike and the rest of the forum I apologise. I had no idea that Yobarr would run his typing hand from where it normally is, directly onto the keyboard to prove to us all once again that we dont need a WDH and we do need a 79 series.
Has anyone noticed how young Yobarr looks in that pic. Not too bad really for someone who should be 120 y.o.
-- Edited by Ivan 01 on Thursday 15th of September 2022 10:03:15 AM
There was no need to apologise. It was very obvious8 that you were joking.
As usual yoborr posted with the intention of derailing the thread. He does this of course to big-note himself and to agrevate other members. No other reason.
I believe this because in real life he has absolutely nothing to brag about. Perhaps even has self esteem issues. And tries to some how compensate here.
An insult is not an insult if it's true.
I note that the person in the image is of heavy build, about 50 and has dark hair. The last image he posted of "himself" from behind had grey hair, pony tail and very light build if I recall correctly. Mmmmm.
Of course that's if he even has a truck licence.
Of course truck licences are handed out after a few days training so it's possible he has one. My question is how long with the gear box last while he is driving this tim?
Hi all,
Thanks for your input on this. Please ensure that you focus on the topic rather than on the person who is posting. We do not allow person attacks on the forum. If you have an issue with someone who has posted something, please contact me directly and I will try to sort it out.
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Thanks.
back to what I hope is intelligent conversation:
I'm sure a roo has 5 "fingers" on the front "hands".
There seems to be 3 + a thumb in the pics.
See rgren2's pic.
And a roo feeding or just sniffing about enough to put his hands to
ground with enough force to leave prints like the ones in the pics
always has the hind legs up close to the body to take the majority of the weight.
Actually very emu looking but wrong number of digits.
Were there other impressions leading up to and away from the site?
I hardly think that that there would not be any.
Without associated marks, one is inclined to think that the marks might
have been made deliberately by a kids toy or the like?
Brodie
-- Edited by Brodie Allen on Friday 16th of September 2022 08:35:04 AM
-- Edited by Brodie Allen on Friday 16th of September 2022 08:35:25 AM
one of his boys doesn't know it then it is unlikely to be an Aussie
animal.
Because of the remoteness and other "communication" matters
I don't expect a quick answer and maybe not at all.
Internet is a rare tool up there, but is operative.
Brodie.
I reckon you made them yourself with one of these.