G'day John, -Salesman " What sort of car do you have mate? " , " Oh Landcruiser 200 Wagon " I reply. " No worries mate, that will be fine, she will tow it no probs", says the salesman.
----------------------------------------------------------------- Very droll, Craig but IMHO very true Jaahn
Whenarewethere said
05:05 PM Jul 24, 2020
My Land Rover, a Freelander, can only tow 2000kg. It has 250kg towball weight which can be increased to 350kg. GVM can be increased by 100kg only up to 100kph.
If going off road the car can only tow 750kg braked or unbraked.
I wonder how many have looked to see what their car can tow when off road?
yobarr said
06:37 PM Jul 24, 2020
Whenarewethere wrote:
My Land Rover, a Freelander, can only tow 2000kg. It has 250kg towball weight which can be increased to 350kg. GVM can be increased by 100kg only up to 100kph.
If going off road the car can only tow 750kg braked or unbraked.
I wonder how many have looked to see what their car can tow when off road?
Well done Jonathan....I have been waiting patiently for someone to reveal that sad truth,which I am sure many LR owners are not aware of.C'est la vie.Cheers.
yobarr said
06:55 PM Jul 24, 2020
Craig1 wrote:
G'day John, -Salesman " What sort of car do you have mate? " , " Oh Landcruiser 200 Wagon " I reply. " No worries mate, that will be fine, she will tow it no probs", says the Salesman.
Absolutely true,Craig,but as I said in an earlier post,the salesman's job is to flog a car to any mug who walks into the sales area.Again I will say,it is highly unlikely that these salesmen know anything about weights,other than what is written in the glossy brochures,and you can be sure that,even if they were aware of a vehicle's limitations,they are not going to risk losing a sale,and the associated commission,by enlightening the customer.Simple physics suggests that an LC200 cannot safely tow a van with an ATM of more than 3000kg.Cheers
travelyounger said
09:09 AM Jul 25, 2020
I don't know the exact number of LC200 towing large caravans with boats on there roofs with suspendion upgrades or without but I reckon there would be lots which I have never heard about safety issues from anyone or in any forums so maybe it's time to let it go about rubbishing LC200 landcruisers because everyone loves them who owns one.
Fier Proprietaire
SouthernComfort said
09:22 AM Jul 25, 2020
travelyounger wrote:
...........it's time to let it go about rubbishing LC200 landcruisers because everyone loves them who owns one. Fier Proprietaire
Couldn't agree more. Now let's apply that to ALL the other brands that people own and are very happy with.
Rob Driver said
09:39 AM Jul 25, 2020
travelyounger wrote:
I don't know the exact number of LC200 towing large caravans with boats on there roofs with suspendion upgrades or without but I reckon there would be lots which I have never heard about safety issues from anyone or in any forums so maybe it's time to let it go about rubbishing LC200 landcruisers because everyone loves them who owns one. Fier Proprietaire
Yes he repeats his view with regular monotony.
His agenda above all the carry on with weights is to force his view on the 79 series ute is the only vehicle to use when towing caravans.
It is a shame yet another topic has been dragged into the oblivion by him having to push his agenda. He got the flick from another forum for his antics.
Regards
Rob
travelyounger said
10:58 AM Jul 25, 2020
79 series single cab ute
Kerb weight of 2180
Payload 1220 kg
Gvm 3400
Does have a good gvm but could be also classified as a lightweight ute also
yobarr said
11:18 AM Jul 25, 2020
travelyounger wrote:
I don't know the exact number of LC200 towing large caravans with boats on there roofs with suspendion upgrades or without but I reckon there would be lots which I have never heard about safety issues from anyone or in any forums so maybe it's time to let it go about rubbishing LC200 landcruisers because everyone loves them who owns one. Fier Proprietaire
If pointing out the inadequacies of any vehicle is classed as "rubbishing" that vehicle,I humbly apologise There is no doubt that there are many LC200s towing large vans,many with boats on their roofs,and maybe with suspension upgrades,but you can be sure that they are overloaded on the rear axle if the towball weight is more than about 300kg. This is because of the short 2850mm wheelbase and the large TBO.The much vaunted GVM upgrade increases the carrying capacity of the rear axle from 1950kg to 2000kg.....a miserable 50kg.Why would you bother?
yobarr said
11:39 AM Jul 25, 2020
travelyounger wrote:
79 series single cab ute Kerb weight of 2180 Payload 1220 kg Gvm 3400 Does have a good gvm but could be also classified as a lightweight ute also
The main advantage that the 79 has over other vehicles is the rear axle rating of 2300kg ex-factory....nothing comes near this until you get into the bigger Yank Tanks. The big rear axle capacity means it easily can carry 350kg ball weight while still well loaded in the tray.Never on this forum had I discussed what vehicle I have until another member very kindly posted that he knew that I had a 79. Each person is entitled to purchase any vehicle they wish,but always I will help others to understand that their chosen vehicle may not be able to do what they have been led to believe it can do. For me to do otherwise could result in any of our members unwittingly running around in a vehicle that is overloaded,unsafe and uninsured. If my advice is ignored,so be it,but at least I can be comfortable that I did what I could to help them.Many would do well to research the caravan accident that killed two people near Walcha.Very sad event,but 100% avoidable,in my opinion,with the driver now facing several charges.Cheers
My Land Rover, a Freelander, can only tow 2000kg. It has 250kg towball weight which can be increased to 350kg. GVM can be increased by 100kg only up to 100kph.
If going off road the car can only tow 750kg braked or unbraked.
I wonder how many have looked to see what their car can tow when off road?
Well done Jonathan....I have been waiting patiently for someone to reveal that sad truth,which I am sure many LR owners are not aware of.C'est la vie.Cheers.
Absolutely true,Craig,but as I said in an earlier post,the salesman's job is to flog a car to any mug who walks into the sales area.Again I will say,it is highly unlikely that these salesmen know anything about weights,other than what is written in the glossy brochures,and you can be sure that,even if they were aware of a vehicle's limitations,they are not going to risk losing a sale,and the associated commission,by enlightening the customer.Simple physics suggests that an LC200 cannot safely tow a van with an ATM of more than 3000kg.Cheers
Couldn't agree more. Now let's apply that to ALL the other brands that people own and are very happy with.
Yes he repeats his view with regular monotony.
His agenda above all the carry on with weights is to force his view on the 79 series ute is the only vehicle to use when towing caravans.
It is a shame yet another topic has been dragged into the oblivion by him having to push his agenda. He got the flick from another forum for his antics.
Regards
Rob
If pointing out the inadequacies of any vehicle is classed as "rubbishing" that vehicle,I humbly apologise There is no doubt that there are many LC200s towing large vans,many with boats on their roofs,and maybe with suspension upgrades,but you can be sure that they are overloaded on the rear axle if the towball weight is more than about 300kg. This is because of the short 2850mm wheelbase and the large TBO.The much vaunted GVM upgrade increases the carrying capacity of the rear axle from 1950kg to 2000kg.....a miserable 50kg.Why would you bother?
The main advantage that the 79 has over other vehicles is the rear axle rating of 2300kg ex-factory....nothing comes near this until you get into the bigger Yank Tanks. The big rear axle capacity means it easily can carry 350kg ball weight while still well loaded in the tray.Never on this forum had I discussed what vehicle I have until another member very kindly posted that he knew that I had a 79. Each person is entitled to purchase any vehicle they wish,but always I will help others to understand that their chosen vehicle may not be able to do what they have been led to believe it can do. For me to do otherwise could result in any of our members unwittingly running around in a vehicle that is overloaded,unsafe and uninsured. If my advice is ignored,so be it,but at least I can be comfortable that I did what I could to help them.Many would do well to research the caravan accident that killed two people near Walcha.Very sad event,but 100% avoidable,in my opinion,with the driver now facing several charges.Cheers