How much convincing to get the Covid vaccine do you need?
Plain Truth said
04:21 PM Jun 6, 2021
Well said.
dieseltojo said
04:42 PM Jun 6, 2021
Dicko I can categorically tell you that there is no possibility of a risk free day just getting out of bed.
I know a bloke that skun his leg just fitting a trailer to a ball. He had done it for 50 years. The risk was just in the shadows. It contributed to his early death making him an invalid.
You are seeking a little to much guarantee.
Dick0 said
05:07 PM Jun 6, 2021
dieseltojo wrote:
Dicko I can categorically tell you that there is no possibility of a risk free day just getting out of bed.
I know a bloke that skun his leg just fitting a trailer to a ball. He had done it for 50 years. The risk was just in the shadows. It contributed to his early death making him an invalid.
You are seeking a little to much guarantee.
When my life could be at risk I do not see myself seeking a little too much guarantee.
Can you guarantee that taking the vaccine is of no risk to my life. Well, can you?
KM575 said
05:16 PM Jun 6, 2021
I recall the Immunisation Card of the late 60's / 70's clearly, had its own yellow jacket. Went everywhere with your passport. No one got upset about getting the various vaccine shots then. It was just part of the travel process, that minimised the risk for you when travelling to "hot spots" where these diseases where prevalent. Don't see anything different today that would concern me.
-- Edited by KM575 on Sunday 6th of June 2021 05:16:42 PM
-- Edited by KM575 on Sunday 6th of June 2021 05:18:13 PM
Aussie1 said
05:30 PM Jun 6, 2021
Dick0 wrote:
dieseltojo wrote:
Dicko I can categorically tell you that there is no possibility of a risk free day just getting out of bed.
I know a bloke that skun his leg just fitting a trailer to a ball. He had done it for 50 years. The risk was just in the shadows. It contributed to his early death making him an invalid.
You are seeking a little to much guarantee.
When my life could be at risk I do not see myself seeking a little too much guarantee.
Can you guarantee that taking the vaccine is of no risk to my life. Well, can you?
Given your comment "my life could be at risk", clearly you do not expect your life to be at risk if you catch this dreadful virus.
No guarantee from me Dicko however, perhaps some helpful advice. Buy yourself a heap of "bubble Rap". Stay well away from society in general and that will probably be as good as any guarantee possible. Enjoy your lonely (but very safe life). I will join all the SENSIBLE folks and await mine (and wife's) second vaccination come July.
Keep safe Cobber.
Dick0 said
06:00 PM Jun 6, 2021
Aussie1 wrote:
Dick0 wrote:
dieseltojo wrote:
Dicko I can categorically tell you that there is no possibility of a risk free day just getting out of bed.
I know a bloke that skun his leg just fitting a trailer to a ball. He had done it for 50 years. The risk was just in the shadows. It contributed to his early death making him an invalid.
You are seeking a little to much guarantee.
When my life could be at risk I do not see myself seeking a little too much guarantee.
Can you guarantee that taking the vaccine is of no risk to my life. Well, can you?
Given your comment "my life could be at risk", clearly you do not expect your life to be at risk if you catch this dreadful virus.
No guarantee from me Dicko however, perhaps some helpful advice. Buy yourself a heap of "bubble Rap". Stay well away from society in general and that will probably be as good as any guarantee possible. Enjoy your lonely (but very safe life). I will join all the SENSIBLE folks and await mine (and wife's) second vaccination come July.
Keep safe Cobber.
So, you are saying...No, you cannot provide a guarantee.
Dick0 said
06:07 PM Jun 6, 2021
dieseltojo wrote:
Dicko I can categorically tell you that there is no possibility of a risk free day just getting out of bed.
I know a bloke that skun his leg just fitting a trailer to a ball. He had done it for 50 years. The risk was just in the shadows. It contributed to his early death making him an invalid.
You are seeking a little to much guarantee.
So, what you are saying is that you cannot guarantee a risk free result to the vaccine?
msg said
06:08 PM Jun 6, 2021
Dicko, are you just stirring? You seem to be arguing both sides.
Dicko1 said
07:23 PM Jun 6, 2021
Dick0 wrote:
dieseltojo wrote:
Dicko I can categorically tell you that there is no possibility of a risk free day just getting out of bed.
I know a bloke that skun his leg just fitting a trailer to a ball. He had done it for 50 years. The risk was just in the shadows. It contributed to his early death making him an invalid.
You are seeking a little to much guarantee.
So, what you are saying is that you cannot guarantee a risk free result to the vaccine?
I,ll guarantee that there is no risk in you having the vaccine.
Izabarack wrote:I once wrote a Social Psychology paper around the behaviour of those like Bolt and Jones.
So they cause intelligent people to think and reconsider their values... and you suggest that's a bad thing...?
No, not at all. People like Bolt and Jones make their money by stirring up listeners not smart enough to understand their reactions, the listeners that is, are what the Shock Jocks rely on to promote their brand. Intelligent people construct their judgements by access to a range of credible sources of information. It is quite easy to argue that Bolt and Jones, for example, have an agenda a lot distant from helping listeners make decisions about things like weather or not to get vaccinated. Bolt and Jones make their money by outraging people, both ways, not by disseminating properly researched vaccination outcomes.
Mike Harding said
08:08 AM Jun 7, 2021
Izabarack: I note you removed a line of your original post from my quote - given your explanation it is clear you did this in order not to appear to be contradicting yourself.
I do hope the psychology paper you wrote was a little more honest.
bgt said
08:29 AM Jun 7, 2021
OK I'm no fan of Bolt or Jones. Can't watch them. But put your hand on your heart and swear that there are no 'over the top' commentators on the ABC, Nine or another media outlet for that matter. Try Laura Tingle on the ABC for a start.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion and intelligent folks can figure out for themselves what they want to believe. Those not smart enough to figure it out start calling people names that they don't agree with. I watch and read for several outlets. Including Sky and the ABC. I know how to use the off button without the need to rant about someone I don't agree with.
dorian said
08:38 AM Jun 7, 2021
This is the kind of rubbish that Jones routinely serves up to his critically challenged audience:
Here he is trying to stir up outrage that a "Muslim" city which he visited some years ago was observing Christmas in a much bigger way than Australia. Unfortunately for Jones, Macau is in fact a predominantly Christian city (because of its Portuguese history), and the total Muslim congregation of 400 persons is served by one mosque.
-- Edited by dorian on Monday 7th of June 2021 08:39:39 AM
bgt said
09:38 AM Jun 7, 2021
Dorian have you ever asked yourself why Alan Jone won all the radio ratings? Maybe, just maybe, the majority of Australian are smarter than you!!
OK I don't like him. He thinks everything is so simple. But most times the majority of Australians think he it correct.
msg said
09:51 AM Jun 7, 2021
The outrage is about Australia not acknowledging Christmas as it once used to and we are even discouraged from saying Merry Christmas. Instead we are supposed to say Happy Holidays. This is taking not offending someone too far. All our traditional holidays have been marred by such attitudes and not celebrated liked they used to be.
You missed the point dorian, or maybe you are trying to turn it around and to stir up more division.
Notice the names you call those who happen to disagree with you. Not a good way of supporting an argument (you have made it so) or are you trying to exhibit a superior knowledge. I really don't know what you are trying to say.
Santa said
10:04 AM Jun 7, 2021
bgt wrote:
Dorian have you ever asked yourself why Alan Jone won all the radio ratings? Maybe, just maybe, the majority of Australian are smarter than you!! OK I don't like him. He thinks everything is so simple. But most times the majority of Australians think he it correct.
Jones and his ilk pander to the great unwashed, the very same reason reality TV is so popular with people who are barely able to to think for themselves.
Journalists, advertisers and politicians love em, so easy to sway.
Names again? I've got news for you. You are one of the great unwashed as well.
msg said
10:21 AM Jun 7, 2021
Do Dorian and Santa just think they would like to be shock jocks themselves?
For goodness sake can't anyone have a different opinion (and thats all it is their OPINION) to you ? Resorting to derision and calling names is a sign that you have no argument.
Santa said
10:28 AM Jun 7, 2021
No name calling, simply underling the fact that the masses are easily manipulated.
Aussie1 said
10:31 AM Jun 7, 2021
msg wrote:
Do Dorian and Santa just think they would like to be shock jocks themselves?
For goodness sake can't anyone have a different opinion (and thats all it is their OPINION) to you ? Resorting to derision and calling names is a sign that you have no argument.
msg, They appear to fit the following category. "Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity"
Dick0 said
10:38 AM Jun 7, 2021
Santa wrote:
No name calling, simply underling the fact that the masses are easily manipulated.
So, are you, therefore, part of the minority with the opinion that the majority are the unwashed and easily manipulated?
Well said.
Dicko I can categorically tell you that there is no possibility of a risk free day just getting out of bed.
I know a bloke that skun his leg just fitting a trailer to a ball. He had done it for 50 years. The risk was just in the shadows. It contributed to his early death making him an invalid.
You are seeking a little to much guarantee.
When my life could be at risk I do not see myself seeking a little too much guarantee.
Can you guarantee that taking the vaccine is of no risk to my life. Well, can you?
I recall the Immunisation Card of the late 60's / 70's clearly, had its own yellow jacket. Went everywhere with your passport. No one got upset about getting the various vaccine shots then. It was just part of the travel process, that minimised the risk for you when travelling to "hot spots" where these diseases where prevalent. Don't see anything different today that would concern me.
-- Edited by KM575 on Sunday 6th of June 2021 05:16:42 PM
-- Edited by KM575 on Sunday 6th of June 2021 05:18:13 PM
So, you are saying...No, you cannot provide a guarantee.
So, what you are saying is that you cannot guarantee a risk free result to the vaccine?
I,ll guarantee that there is no risk in you having the vaccine.
No, not at all. People like Bolt and Jones make their money by stirring up listeners not smart enough to understand their reactions, the listeners that is, are what the Shock Jocks rely on to promote their brand. Intelligent people construct their judgements by access to a range of credible sources of information. It is quite easy to argue that Bolt and Jones, for example, have an agenda a lot distant from helping listeners make decisions about things like weather or not to get vaccinated. Bolt and Jones make their money by outraging people, both ways, not by disseminating properly researched vaccination outcomes.
Izabarack: I note you removed a line of your original post from my quote - given your explanation it is clear you did this in order not to appear to be contradicting yourself.
I do hope the psychology paper you wrote was a little more honest.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion and intelligent folks can figure out for themselves what they want to believe. Those not smart enough to figure it out start calling people names that they don't agree with. I watch and read for several outlets. Including Sky and the ABC. I know how to use the off button without the need to rant about someone I don't agree with.
This is the kind of rubbish that Jones routinely serves up to his critically challenged audience:
Christmas in Macau:
https://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/episodes/christmas-in-macau/9972442
Here he is trying to stir up outrage that a "Muslim" city which he visited some years ago was observing Christmas in a much bigger way than Australia. Unfortunately for Jones, Macau is in fact a predominantly Christian city (because of its Portuguese history), and the total Muslim congregation of 400 persons is served by one mosque.
-- Edited by dorian on Monday 7th of June 2021 08:39:39 AM
You missed the point dorian, or maybe you are trying to turn it around and to stir up more division.
Notice the names you call those who happen to disagree with you. Not a good way of supporting an argument (you have made it so) or are you trying to exhibit a superior knowledge. I really don't know what you are trying to say.
Jones and his ilk pander to the great unwashed, the very same reason reality TV is so popular with people who are barely able to to think for themselves.
Journalists, advertisers and politicians love em, so easy to sway.
For goodness sake can't anyone have a different opinion (and thats all it is their OPINION) to you ? Resorting to derision and calling names is a sign that you have no argument.
No name calling, simply underling the fact that the masses are easily manipulated.
msg, They appear to fit the following category. "Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity"
So, are you, therefore, part of the minority with the opinion that the majority are the unwashed and easily manipulated?
