We are slowly tidying up our home and getting rid of a lot of old stuff.
I am wondering is there an app or program I could use where I may scan our old photos from the shoeboxes and store them digitally.
Has anyone done this with there cherished old pics?
Regards
Angie
outlaw40 said
10:52 AM Oct 31, 2019
Any scanner and scanning program will be able to do this . Some will be better then others. Slow process you will need plenty of free time .
Whenarewethere said
11:22 AM Oct 31, 2019
I have a scanner but always use my Canon 5d2 with a longer lens, it's much quicker. Set aperture at f8. Set up a tripod with camera pointed to the floor near a window with good light but not direct sun light. Place the photo on a larger black background on the floor.
Also I place white board/sheet etc up against the legs of the tripod to even up the light across the photo.
Set up with some reference points so the photos are in the right position and square to the camera every time, get it right to avoid work.
Use low or native ISO usually 100. Quite often over expose one stop but do not clip highlights. I use mirror lockup and a cable release. Use the timer if you don't have a shutter cable release.
Once setup properly and a few tests you can get through a pile of photos quickly.
Peter_n_Margaret said
11:33 AM Oct 31, 2019
I also purchased a cheap slide scanner. Yes time consuming, but having them digital is a wonderful way of being able to share them, but you also need to file them so that can be easily found as you need them.
Your family will thank you for it in years to come.
Refuelling the Mini in 1967. We were on our way from Adelaide to Darwin for our honeymoon.
The house my grandfather built. My father is standing at the gate, aged 3 years, in 1915. The house is still there and I have shared this pic with the current owners.
I had all my photos in albums so when I decided to go full time GN I made an executive decision to just take a digital photo of each page. That way I still have the memories.
Some times you just have to do things you might not normally do.
Craig1 said
12:28 PM Oct 31, 2019
"Whenthe" - Is the photo technique adaptable to colour slides do you reckon? The scan process is fairly slow for sure.
bgt said
01:19 PM Oct 31, 2019
Go into OfficeWorks and buy a cheap, $35.00, scanner. Set it to 300ppi. And start scanning. (You can do prints and slides this way). Most editing software will allow scanning. It will take time. No way around that fact. Name them all and save them, as jpegs, into relevant folders on a thumb drive. I wouldn't recommend trying to photograph them. I've been scanning many taken by a friend in the 1930's. Plus thousands of my own pre digital images.
BW said
01:50 PM Oct 31, 2019
Love the old photo's Peter and Margaret. It is amazing the things we used to do in the younger days . Here is a picture of my great grandmother and her new husband around 1900, after my greatgrandfather shot himself , story was he could not pay the miners wages , in the mine he owned . The new husband got killed on the way home from town , not long after this picture . His buggy hit a log on the road , coming over a rocky ridge . Luckily I had scanned it , because I had it hanging in my caravan when it got stolen , Got the van back 2years later after many goes of advertising on Gumtree , but the picture was gone .
I photograph slides as well. I have an old Epson 4870 scanner but like all these flatbed scanners you end up with a lot of noise in the shadows with the standard software. The Silver fast Pro software is better but not brilliant, & still very slow.
In a previous life I had access to a Nikon $4000 medium format scanner which was reasonably good & also had scans done on a $80k Scitex scanner. The scans were really good with no noise in the shadows.
So I use an old Mamiya 645 macro lens with extenders to get 1:1 photos, holding slides in a plastic bracket I knocked up to sit in the front of a bellows lens hood. Generally set the camera to faithful lighting.
I point the camera to the sky on a clear blue day which seems to give the best lighting. Once setup & getting the focus correct, photographing slides is quicker than on a scanner & better shadow detail. You can also stack scans or photos to reduce noise but it is more work.
If you do stack transparent layers to reduce noise opacity is 100% (bottom) 50% 33% 25% (top layer). Not 100% 25% 25% 25%.
The best results will be from taking a high definition photo under diffused light with a High megapixel Camera. Can be very time consuming but for the best result the way to go.
Another alternative is to purchase a dedicated Film/Photo/Slide scanner from someone like Kogan. Every so often the scanners they sell are put up on special at aprox half normal price.
Work reasonably well with good results.
I have friend who built a Wooden Jig/holder to hold his phone and the photo at the right distance apart to give a fair result. High megapixel camera is obviously a better bet.
Transfer to your computer and save to whatever folder you use.
Rob Driver said
08:05 PM Oct 31, 2019
Thank you all for your replies.
Some of you guys are very technical with cameras etc.
I found an App this afternoon which lets me scan the pic and then save it wherever I want to on my computer, iPad or phone.
It is called Picscanner Gold and cost $12.99
I have done three albums of wedding photos so far and I am very impressed with it. It is a bit slow until you learn how to use it but it is fairly easy and it does what I want it to.
Thank you all for your suggestions
Regards
Angie
Whenarewethere said
08:43 PM Oct 31, 2019
Scanning slides is a lot more difficult especially if they are Fuji Velvia with very deep shadows.
Scanning photos is easy but you may want to increase local sharpness. Say 10 to 20% max, 50 to 100 pixels radius. You can also copy a layer & change it to Luminosity & sharpen that layer. Doing this you will not sharpen colour artefacts.
Sometimes doubling the size of the image, sharpen, then half the size. This can help if you are trying to pull out some details.
PeterX said
07:44 AM Nov 1, 2019
Slides have fantastic resolution - up to 2000 dpi
On my Epson 750, can set up to scan 12 slides unattended, as each slide takes a few minutes to scan , 12 slides take up too one hour.
Also need to use a small air puffer to remove dust, which shows up as black dots on the image
PeterX said
07:54 AM Nov 1, 2019
Just a comment - any valuable photos I would keep the paper copy .
Digital storage is not long reliable, without special regular "maintenance" Generally , There is no tech that will last longer than 5 years, including hard drives cds etc . Hard drives are very susceptible to physical damage with just a bump. Data decays on SSDs and usb sticks.
There is various claims about storage ability for much longer, but this can be easily damaged by in proper storage, heat, bit rot etc And whether we have tech with needed interface or format to read in future is not certain. Paper photos have easily survived 30, 40 years and much longer just sitting in a cupboard. Digital is unlikely to last this time
(I do data recovery on hard drives , SSDs and convert old formats )
-- Edited by PeterX on Friday 1st of November 2019 07:56:16 AM
SouthernComfort said
08:19 AM Nov 1, 2019
Earlier this year I set some time aside and scanned all our old paper photos using my combo printer/scanner. Put several smaller photos on the glass at the same time and once scanned I divided them up on the PC using Windows 'photos'. Also cropped, enlarged and enhanced several which came out fantastically well. Saved all the digital pics to my PC and backed them up on a small external hard drive. No apps or other special equipment needed. Haven't tried it with slides as most of them were lost years ago, probably when moving.
BW said
08:38 AM Nov 1, 2019
I recovered mine from an E-Mail I sent years ago.
Rob Driver said
08:57 AM Nov 1, 2019
Hi PeterX,
You make a good point about digital storage and I have taken that on board although we intend selling our home and dont really have anywhere for storage of the paper prints.
Hi Tony ,Southern Comfort.
We had a scanner left over from our business when we retired but unfortunately it was only black and white.
I was not keen on using an App because most of them stored and had access to your photos and charged you a monthly fee for the privelege of using their cloud.
When I discovered the Pic Scanner Gold App I find that it is basically a photo organising App with an ability to scan pics with the camera in a quality smart phone. The storage remains on the device of my choice and is not in any cloud unless I choose to store in this way.
$12.99 was a lot cheaper than us buying a colour scanner for one purpose.
I have spent all of last night playing with the App and sending phots and albums to our children and between me and my Husband.
My daughters love it as they do not have to have installed the App on their devices to receive the photos.
By my family having the photos means that these pics are stored not once but several times on childrens and grandchildrens devices and with an increased chance of the entire files surviving and being easily shared in this hi tech world we are now in.
My daughters and I have decided to Air Drop all the files I have created to their devices when we are together next. One of my girls is going to download the App today so when she receives an album it is arranged exactly how I have organised it.
I know I am going on a bit over this but I was quite stressed about our family photos until yesterday and now I feel that the solution is easy and is actually fun to use.
Anyway, back to scanning.
Regards
Angie
Whenarewethere said
11:35 AM Nov 1, 2019
I thought I would have a look at a few decades old photos printed from slides onto Cibachrome. I forgot just how good the images were and the quality of Cibachrome.
Hi Nomads,
We are slowly tidying up our home and getting rid of a lot of old stuff.
I am wondering is there an app or program I could use where I may scan our old photos from the shoeboxes and store them digitally.
Has anyone done this with there cherished old pics?
Regards
Angie
I have a scanner but always use my Canon 5d2 with a longer lens, it's much quicker. Set aperture at f8. Set up a tripod with camera pointed to the floor near a window with good light but not direct sun light. Place the photo on a larger black background on the floor.
Also I place white board/sheet etc up against the legs of the tripod to even up the light across the photo.
Set up with some reference points so the photos are in the right position and square to the camera every time, get it right to avoid work.
Use low or native ISO usually 100. Quite often over expose one stop but do not clip highlights. I use mirror lockup and a cable release. Use the timer if you don't have a shutter cable release.
Once setup properly and a few tests you can get through a pile of photos quickly.
I also purchased a cheap slide scanner.
Yes time consuming, but having them digital is a wonderful way of being able to share them, but you also need to file them so that can be easily found as you need them.
Your family will thank you for it in years to come.
Refuelling the Mini in 1967. We were on our way from Adelaide to Darwin for our honeymoon.
The house my grandfather built. My father is standing at the gate, aged 3 years, in 1915. The house is still there and I have shared this pic with the current owners.
Cheers,
Peter
Some times you just have to do things you might not normally do.
Love the old photo's Peter and Margaret. It is amazing the things we used to do in the younger days . Here is a picture of my great grandmother and her new husband around 1900, after my greatgrandfather shot himself , story was he could not pay the miners wages , in the mine he owned . The new husband got killed on the way home from town , not long after this picture . His buggy hit a log on the road , coming over a rocky ridge . Luckily I had scanned it , because I had it hanging in my caravan when it got stolen , Got the van back 2years later after many goes of advertising on Gumtree , but the picture was gone .
I photograph slides as well. I have an old Epson 4870 scanner but like all these flatbed scanners you end up with a lot of noise in the shadows with the standard software. The Silver fast Pro software is better but not brilliant, & still very slow.
In a previous life I had access to a Nikon $4000 medium format scanner which was reasonably good & also had scans done on a $80k Scitex scanner. The scans were really good with no noise in the shadows.
So I use an old Mamiya 645 macro lens with extenders to get 1:1 photos, holding slides in a plastic bracket I knocked up to sit in the front of a bellows lens hood. Generally set the camera to faithful lighting.
I point the camera to the sky on a clear blue day which seems to give the best lighting. Once setup & getting the focus correct, photographing slides is quicker than on a scanner & better shadow detail. You can also stack scans or photos to reduce noise but it is more work.
If you do stack transparent layers to reduce noise opacity is 100% (bottom) 50% 33% 25% (top layer). Not 100% 25% 25% 25%.
The best results will be from taking a high definition photo under diffused light with a High megapixel Camera. Can be very time consuming but for the best result the way to go.
Another alternative is to purchase a dedicated Film/Photo/Slide scanner from someone like Kogan. Every so often the scanners they sell are put up on special at aprox half normal price.
Work reasonably well with good results.
I have friend who built a Wooden Jig/holder to hold his phone and the photo at the right distance apart to give a fair result. High megapixel camera is obviously a better bet.
Transfer to your computer and save to whatever folder you use.
Some of you guys are very technical with cameras etc.
I found an App this afternoon which lets me scan the pic and then save it wherever I want to on my computer, iPad or phone.
It is called Picscanner Gold and cost $12.99
I have done three albums of wedding photos so far and I am very impressed with it. It is a bit slow until you learn how to use it but it is fairly easy and it does what I want it to.
Thank you all for your suggestions
Regards
Angie
Scanning slides is a lot more difficult especially if they are Fuji Velvia with very deep shadows.
Scanning photos is easy but you may want to increase local sharpness. Say 10 to 20% max, 50 to 100 pixels radius. You can also copy a layer & change it to Luminosity & sharpen that layer. Doing this you will not sharpen colour artefacts.
Sometimes doubling the size of the image, sharpen, then half the size. This can help if you are trying to pull out some details.
Slides have fantastic resolution - up to 2000 dpi
On my Epson 750, can set up to scan 12 slides unattended, as each slide takes a few minutes to scan , 12 slides take up too one hour.
Also need to use a small air puffer to remove dust, which shows up as black dots on the image
Just a comment - any valuable photos I would keep the paper copy .
Digital storage is not long reliable, without special regular "maintenance"
Generally , There is no tech that will last longer than 5 years, including hard drives cds etc .
Hard drives are very susceptible to physical damage with just a bump.
Data decays on SSDs and usb sticks.
There is various claims about storage ability for much longer, but this can be easily damaged by in proper storage, heat, bit rot etc
And whether we have tech with needed interface or format to read in future is not certain.
Paper photos have easily survived 30, 40 years and much longer just sitting in a cupboard. Digital is unlikely to last this time
(I do data recovery on hard drives , SSDs and convert old formats )
-- Edited by PeterX on Friday 1st of November 2019 07:56:16 AM
You make a good point about digital storage and I have taken that on board although we intend selling our home and dont really have anywhere for storage of the paper prints.
Hi Tony ,Southern Comfort.
We had a scanner left over from our business when we retired but unfortunately it was only black and white.
I was not keen on using an App because most of them stored and had access to your photos and charged you a monthly fee for the privelege of using their cloud.
When I discovered the Pic Scanner Gold App I find that it is basically a photo organising App with an ability to scan pics with the camera in a quality smart phone. The storage remains on the device of my choice and is not in any cloud unless I choose to store in this way.
$12.99 was a lot cheaper than us buying a colour scanner for one purpose.
I have spent all of last night playing with the App and sending phots and albums to our children and between me and my Husband.
My daughters love it as they do not have to have installed the App on their devices to receive the photos.
By my family having the photos means that these pics are stored not once but several times on childrens and grandchildrens devices and with an increased chance of the entire files surviving and being easily shared in this hi tech world we are now in.
My daughters and I have decided to Air Drop all the files I have created to their devices when we are together next. One of my girls is going to download the App today so when she receives an album it is arranged exactly how I have organised it.
I know I am going on a bit over this but I was quite stressed about our family photos until yesterday and now I feel that the solution is easy and is actually fun to use.
Anyway, back to scanning.
Regards
Angie
I thought I would have a look at a few decades old photos printed from slides onto Cibachrome. I forgot just how good the images were and the quality of Cibachrome.