Coming back from the West two weeks ago the security door sprung open and broke the window alongside the door.
After carefully removing the frame I more or less accidently found that lifting the window 'glass' panel straight up allows it to separate from the frame.
That means that a replacement 'glass' panel should be able to slip straight back on.
However, I have been unable to find a supplier of just the window panels - apparently, you can only buy the complete assembly.
Does anyone know where I could buy just the window panel?
(The window is fitted to a Jayco Sterling - the frame is marked 4RC Slimline 565 x 1175 and 6841 - 0565 - 1175 WH followed by M454581.)
Murray
PS: The way the window panel simply lifted off seems to be a well kept secret by caravan parts suppliers and repairers.
Peter_n_Margaret said
09:00 PM Nov 14, 2019
Any glass supplier will be able to cut one to size. Just give them the broken one.
If it is acrylic (plastic) any plastics fabricator can do the same.
Cheers,
peter
Long Weekend said
09:09 PM Nov 14, 2019
Thanks Peter.
Have looked into that - the 'glass' is acrylic/Perspex. I thought that obtaining a complete panel would mean that I wouldn't have to bond/glue the plastic onto the window frame. Another thought was that the original window has a flange around the edges to provide stiffness - a flat panel of Perspex may tend to twist.
If replacement panels are not available anywhere then that is what I'll have to do.
Murray
Whenarewethere said
10:07 PM Nov 14, 2019
If you get acrylic get them to polish edges (they run a flame over the edge), costs next to nothing but saves you getting cuts on your hands from handling the acrylic sheet's otherwise sharp edges.
I don't know how the windows work on caravans but if you have to get rubber gaskets back in, put the rubber gaskets in a bucket of hot soapy water & also have a spay bottle with soapy water to spray around gap the rubber goes into. This is what you do with building windows.
Bobdown said
10:20 PM Nov 14, 2019
Another I found is that you can slide the whole window sideways, I had a leaking seal fixed and when I checked the job the strut wasn't closing properly. He just slid the whole thing sideways.........the double acrylic type.
Contact Jayco Murray.
Cheers Bob
TheHeaths said
07:57 AM Nov 15, 2019
Murray,
I have a feeling they are a Camec window.
Contact Camec with the numbers you have and see what they have to say.
Would help if you have the year of the Sterling van as well. We have a 2012 StarCraft, and had issues with the acrylic developing small cracks from the edge towards the middle. I contacted Camec, direct, and the windows we had (can't remember the model numbers) were able to be supplied, acrylic part only. I still have them in the shed, not fitted, as the cracks haven't developed much further, and we were still doing dirt road trips. Will fit when we get a bit less adventurous.
I think you will find them helpful, and I suggest them, as having a quick look, the Odyssey range, 4 corner radius, may be what you are seeking. The 4RC means 4 corner radius!
dieseltojo said
10:21 AM Nov 15, 2019
Long Weekend, Bunnings sell acrylic or poly-carbonate (better), in sheets if that helps. Or you can get it at other places to cut your own.
Acrylic is a mongrel to cut if you haven;t done it but I don't know how it will compare cost wise to a new window. Many repairers will order a new complete unit both for time restriction and skills required to fit a bare window. pane.
Often the seals are a problem to get wrinkle free etc. Your choice though.
Whenarewethere said
05:16 PM Nov 15, 2019
Poly-carbonate is far stronger but softer. Acrylic has a harder surface but more brittle. Go to a local plastic engineering shop, they will cut it to size & flame the edges.
Long Weekend said
03:13 PM Nov 16, 2019
Thanks for the replies.
I was hoping to find out a source for a window panel, given that it just slips straight back on.
Dieseltojo: I have checked Bunnings out on their web site, our local Bunnings appear out of stock of the correct type/size. (But there are three other Bunnings stores around Canberra yet to check out.) If I have to cut my own then I was going to use a fine tooth jigsaw. I hadn't heard of 'flaming' the edges before, I was just going to use a file.
Whenarewethereyet: flaming the edges would probably be more 'professional' than filing the sharp corners of the edges.
Theheaths: Our Sterling is a year 2006. While the windows have four rounded corners I haven't been able to match them up with what is offered by caravansplus in the next town over. Am unable to match the size (565x1175) and type (hopper) either.
Bobdown: Waiting to hear from Camec before contacting Jayco.
I may have to end up having to cut my own window from acrylic/Perspex. At the moment I am worried about gluing/bonding such a sheet onto the window frame, particularly the hinge onto the plastic. Will have to investigate the correct type of adhesive to use.
Murray
Long Weekend said
04:54 PM Nov 16, 2019
Hi All,
In case I end up fitting a sheet onto the window frame myself does anybody know exactly what glue/adhesive should be used? Bearing in mind it is a plastic to metal join.
The wrong type of adhesive will only see the plastic sheet fall off.
Murray
Kebbin said
09:46 AM Nov 17, 2019
Just take your window to a Glass/Glazing shop they have all the plastic as well as glass with Glaziers to do the job properly, if the frame can be dismantled.
Long Weekend said
12:13 PM Nov 17, 2019
Yes Kebbin - the window has been removed and dismantled.
I am waiting to hear back from Camec about the replacement part number as the one on the frame doesn't appear in their listing.
Provided the cost of a new window is less than my insurance excess, then I'll simply get a new one. If more then I'll have a sheet put on the window panel.
By the way, anybody wanting to remove a window from a Jayco van all you need is a paint scraper. Push it under the lip of the frame to free the sealant.
Coming back from the West two weeks ago the security door sprung open and broke the window alongside the door.
After carefully removing the frame I more or less accidently found that lifting the window 'glass' panel straight up allows it to separate from the frame.
That means that a replacement 'glass' panel should be able to slip straight back on.
However, I have been unable to find a supplier of just the window panels - apparently, you can only buy the complete assembly.
Does anyone know where I could buy just the window panel?
(The window is fitted to a Jayco Sterling - the frame is marked 4RC Slimline 565 x 1175 and 6841 - 0565 - 1175 WH followed by M454581.)
Murray
PS: The way the window panel simply lifted off seems to be a well kept secret by caravan parts suppliers and repairers.
If it is acrylic (plastic) any plastics fabricator can do the same.
Cheers,
peter
Have looked into that - the 'glass' is acrylic/Perspex. I thought that obtaining a complete panel would mean that I wouldn't have to bond/glue the plastic onto the window frame. Another thought was that the original window has a flange around the edges to provide stiffness - a flat panel of Perspex may tend to twist.
If replacement panels are not available anywhere then that is what I'll have to do.
Murray
If you get acrylic get them to polish edges (they run a flame over the edge), costs next to nothing but saves you getting cuts on your hands from handling the acrylic sheet's otherwise sharp edges.
I don't know how the windows work on caravans but if you have to get rubber gaskets back in, put the rubber gaskets in a bucket of hot soapy water & also have a spay bottle with soapy water to spray around gap the rubber goes into. This is what you do with building windows.
Contact Jayco Murray.
Cheers Bob
I have a feeling they are a Camec window.
Contact Camec with the numbers you have and see what they have to say.
Would help if you have the year of the Sterling van as well. We have a 2012 StarCraft, and had issues with the acrylic developing small cracks from the edge towards the middle. I contacted Camec, direct, and the windows we had (can't remember the model numbers) were able to be supplied, acrylic part only. I still have them in the shed, not fitted, as the cracks haven't developed much further, and we were still doing dirt road trips. Will fit when we get a bit less adventurous.
I think you will find them helpful, and I suggest them, as having a quick look, the Odyssey range, 4 corner radius, may be what you are seeking. The 4RC means 4 corner radius!
Long Weekend, Bunnings sell acrylic or poly-carbonate (better), in sheets if that helps. Or you can get it at other places to cut your own.
Acrylic is a mongrel to cut if you haven;t done it but I don't know how it will compare cost wise to a new window. Many repairers will order a new complete unit both for time restriction and skills required to fit a bare window. pane.
Often the seals are a problem to get wrinkle free etc. Your choice though.
Poly-carbonate is far stronger but softer. Acrylic has a harder surface but more brittle. Go to a local plastic engineering shop, they will cut it to size & flame the edges.
I was hoping to find out a source for a window panel, given that it just slips straight back on.
Dieseltojo: I have checked Bunnings out on their web site, our local Bunnings appear out of stock of the correct type/size. (But there are three other Bunnings stores around Canberra yet to check out.) If I have to cut my own then I was going to use a fine tooth jigsaw. I hadn't heard of 'flaming' the edges before, I was just going to use a file.
Whenarewethereyet: flaming the edges would probably be more 'professional' than filing the sharp corners of the edges.
Theheaths: Our Sterling is a year 2006. While the windows have four rounded corners I haven't been able to match them up with what is offered by caravansplus in the next town over. Am unable to match the size (565x1175) and type (hopper) either.
Bobdown: Waiting to hear from Camec before contacting Jayco.
I may have to end up having to cut my own window from acrylic/Perspex. At the moment I am worried about gluing/bonding such a sheet onto the window frame, particularly the hinge onto the plastic. Will have to investigate the correct type of adhesive to use.
Murray
In case I end up fitting a sheet onto the window frame myself does anybody know exactly what glue/adhesive should be used? Bearing in mind it is a plastic to metal join.
The wrong type of adhesive will only see the plastic sheet fall off.
Murray
I am waiting to hear back from Camec about the replacement part number as the one on the frame doesn't appear in their listing.
Provided the cost of a new window is less than my insurance excess, then I'll simply get a new one. If more then I'll have a sheet put on the window panel.
By the way, anybody wanting to remove a window from a Jayco van all you need is a paint scraper. Push it under the lip of the frame to free the sealant.
Murray