Given what our great country is currently experiencing in regards to Bush Fires and the threat of same.
Should tonight's fireworks around the country be banned or not.
My view is:-
No fireworks what so ever should be allowed under these conditions.
What are your thoughts????
We can and will be welcome the New Year. Will not be watching or going to Brisbane fireworks.
All the best for 2020
Jay&Dee
hako said
01:55 PM Dec 31, 2019
Capital city ones yes.....regional towns no. Capital cities are mostly concrete and green parks with Govt backing and plenty of insurance whereas regional towns have older wooden building and parched dry with the bare minimum of public liability insurance. Taken to extremes we'd ban just about everything!
Good Luck.
Mike Harding said
02:03 PM Dec 31, 2019
If there is a fire risk then, obviously, no.
Otherwise yes; NYE is a celebration and tradition and should not be stopped because a few people wish to make us all feel guilty about... something...?
The Sydney fireworks, particularly, are a world-wide event and we should show the world Oz has tenacity.
Finally; it would be a totally pointless gesture - the money is irrelevant, we have more than enough to help those we chose to help.
Whenarewethere said
02:12 PM Dec 31, 2019
You may not be able to see them with all the smoke or breath for that matter.
It would be better for your health to watch it on TV. Maybe they have done a 3d animation of the fireworks without smoke.
Cupie said
04:25 PM Dec 31, 2019
When we return home from dinner & the movies, we will listen to the Brissy CBD fireworks and sit on the front patio to watch the mini fireworks at the Glen Hotel a few streets away. They always put on a great show & I presume that it will be the same this year.
I think that the Sydney Fireworks and maybe many others are part of fundraisers for bushfire victims, so that has to be a good thing.
I agree that where there is little risk then the show should go on, particularly where it is linked to an appropriate fund raiser. Perhaps it will give our Prime Minister an opportunity to put on show his great marketing, oops sorry .. Leadership skills.
Mariner30 said
05:57 PM Dec 31, 2019
No.
The words insensitive, shallow, disrespectful and the complete indifference to those who have paid the supreme sacrifice to try and save other peoples lives and property
Just so city folk can be entertained for one night,
Oh... and so some international hotel chains can price gouge those silly enough to pay stupid prices for accommodation
Ex rural CFA active firefighter.
yobarr said
06:06 PM Dec 31, 2019
Mariner30 wrote:
No. The words insensitive, shallow, disrespectful and the complete indifference to those who have paid the supreme sacrifice to try and save other peoples lives and property Just so city folk can be entertained for one night, Oh... and so some international hotel chains can price gouge those silly enough to pay stupid prices for accommodation Ex rural CFA active firefighter.
Now,that's telling it the way it is.Well said Graham!
Whenarewethere said
06:20 PM Dec 31, 2019
Many years ago we were at the New Year's Eve Concert in the Sydney Opera House. The intermission was timed for the Sydney fireworks.
It was brilliant, while fireworks ash rained down like Pompeii on the glass over the Opera House Foreshore Foyer we drank champagne & stuffed our faces, thoroughly enjoying ourselves with relatives from Europe.
My only complaint was slightly sore neck from looking up!
Valkie said
07:30 PM Dec 31, 2019
The Sydney fireworks is more that a bunch of fire crackers.
Many businesses and the tourist dollar is tied to this event.
While ill probably never go to it, I think it's a good thing for our country.
If we decided to stop it this year.
Next year we might not get as many visitors, less money, less tourism.
It's a bit of a balancing act really.
.
Whenarewethere said
07:45 PM Dec 31, 2019
One year the fireworks were cancelled, shifted 26 days due to rain for another go, not too many complaints at the time!
Mariner30 said
11:02 PM Dec 31, 2019
Thanks yobar,
Just my opinion,
All these fires are unusually early for the time of year,
Many councils have cancelled their own firework displays for different reasons, imo it would have been good if the capital cities had have done the same but the tourist $ are huge, as we all know
Cupie said
12:06 PM Jan 1, 2020
Mariner30 wrote:
No. The words insensitive, shallow, disrespectful and the complete indifference to those who have paid the supreme sacrifice to try and save other peoples lives and property Just so city folk can be entertained for one night, Oh... and so some international hotel chains can price gouge those silly enough to pay stupid prices for accommodation Ex rural CFA active firefighter.
Don't understand.
Which words are insensitive etc.
As I see it, the tragic loss of life & the fantastic contributions of Volunteers as well as paid fire fighters, and the NY Fireworks are completely dissociated matters.
Of course we all are entitled to our opinions & the right to express them .. in a civil manner.
dorian said
12:22 PM Jan 1, 2020
Thankfully our local council decided to abandon its policy of pointless end-of-year noise making. Perhaps the lingering smell of wind blown bushfire smoke had something to do with it.
Fortunately, the authorities saw fit to tie up a fire brigade for the duration of the event, otherwise it may have been a disaster if they had been away fighting real fires in the surrounding hills.
sandsmere said
09:00 AM Jan 2, 2020
Mariner30 wrote:
No. The words insensitive, shallow, disrespectful and the complete indifference to those who have paid the supreme sacrifice to try and save other peoples lives and property Just so city folk can be entertained for one night, Oh... and so some international hotel chains can price gouge those silly enough to pay stupid prices for accommodation Ex rural CFA active firefighter.
I agree. 100%.
Cupie said
09:57 AM Jan 2, 2020
sandsmere wrote:
Mariner30 wrote:
No. The words insensitive, shallow, disrespectful and the complete indifference to those who have paid the supreme sacrifice to try and save other peoples lives and property Just so city folk can be entertained for one night, Oh... and so some international hotel chains can price gouge those silly enough to pay stupid prices for accommodation Ex rural CFA active firefighter.
I agree. 100%.
I'm rather bemused by all this.
No one has answered my request for information on which words are 'insensitive, shallow, disrespectful ... etc'.
Perhaps Mariner30 can help by telling me what he was referring to.
Mariner30 said
11:47 AM Jan 2, 2020
" bemused " by this...
What exactly is there in the current bushfire situation to be " bemused" about?
Anywho,
You liked the fireworks,
Got that.
I didn't watch them.
Eaglemax said
12:45 PM Jan 2, 2020
No one has mentioned how firework affect animals. Humans seem to think we are the only important species on the planet. Dogs in particular are traumatised, oh but we want fun dont win...theyll get over it. In rural areas (Nagambie in our case) other native animals suffer.
Tony
Cupie said
01:37 PM Jan 2, 2020
Mariner30 wrote:
" bemused " by this... What exactly is there in the current bushfire situation to be " bemused" about? Anywho, You liked the fireworks, Got that. I didn't watch them.
I am not bemused by the current bushfire situation, I get that, but rather by the claim that some words are 'insensitive, shallow, disrespectful ... etc'.
I just want to know if you were referring to any of my words, given that your post followed directly after my comments. Having re read my post, I can't see how they could attract such a reaction except perhaps if my comments about ScoMo offended. Maybe they were unnecessary.
In case you misinterpreted my intent please be assured that I have a great appreciation of the contribution of emergency services personnel of all sorts, paid or volunteers and have great empathy for all those who have lost loved ones or even possessions in this current tragedy. I too, like you did in the CFA, have made personal contributions to disaster relief in the past. In just one case it took me away from my young family for 3 months.
dorian said
03:53 PM Jan 2, 2020
Eaglemax wrote:
No one has mentioned how firework affect animals. Humans seem to think we are the only important species on the planet. Dogs in particular are traumatised, oh but we want fun dont win...theyll get over it. In rural areas (Nagambie in our case) other native animals suffer. Tony
Local ratbags set off fireworks at 3AM on weekends, presumably after they've consumed their drugs and alcohol. One bird breeder told me that his birds drop dead off the perch out of sheer fright.
Mariner30 said
09:39 PM Jan 2, 2020
Cupie wrote:
Mariner30 wrote:
" bemused " by this... What exactly is there in the current bushfire situation to be " bemused" about? Anywho, You liked the fireworks, Got that. I didn't watch them.
I am not bemused by the current bushfire situation, I get that, but rather by the claim that some words are 'insensitive, shallow, disrespectful ... etc'.
I just want to know if you were referring to any of my words, given that your post followed directly after my comments. Having re read my post, I can't see how they could attract such a reaction except perhaps if my comments about ScoMo offended. Maybe they were unnecessary.
In case you misinterpreted my intent please be assured that I have a great appreciation of the contribution of emergency services personnel of all sorts, paid or volunteers and have great empathy for all those who have lost loved ones or even possessions in this current tragedy. I too, like you did in the CFA, have made personal contributions to disaster relief in the past. In just one case it took me away from my young family for 3 months.
No cupie,
It wasn't a crack at you or your opinion...however wrong it is you ARE entitled to it lol
No, those words...and others... are what l saw, read and heard in a number of different debates on the subject of cancelling the fireworks,
In newspapers, TV and radio...plus the odd pub test or two,
The original post did ask " what are your thoughts " or similiar
Given what our great country is currently experiencing in regards to Bush Fires and the threat of same.
Should tonight's fireworks around the country be banned or not.
My view is:-
No fireworks what so ever should be allowed under these conditions.
What are your thoughts????
We can and will be welcome the New Year. Will not be watching or going to Brisbane fireworks.
All the best for 2020
Jay&Dee
Good Luck.
If there is a fire risk then, obviously, no.
Otherwise yes; NYE is a celebration and tradition and should not be stopped because a few people wish to make us all feel guilty about... something...?
The Sydney fireworks, particularly, are a world-wide event and we should show the world Oz has tenacity.
Finally; it would be a totally pointless gesture - the money is irrelevant, we have more than enough to help those we chose to help.
You may not be able to see them with all the smoke or breath for that matter.
It would be better for your health to watch it on TV. Maybe they have done a 3d animation of the fireworks without smoke.
When we return home from dinner & the movies, we will listen to the Brissy CBD fireworks and sit on the front patio to watch the mini fireworks at the Glen Hotel a few streets away. They always put on a great show & I presume that it will be the same this year.
I think that the Sydney Fireworks and maybe many others are part of fundraisers for bushfire victims, so that has to be a good thing.
I agree that where there is little risk then the show should go on, particularly where it is linked to an appropriate fund raiser. Perhaps it will give our Prime Minister an opportunity to put on show his great marketing, oops sorry .. Leadership skills.
Now,that's telling it the way it is.Well said Graham!
Many years ago we were at the New Year's Eve Concert in the Sydney Opera House. The intermission was timed for the Sydney fireworks.
It was brilliant, while fireworks ash rained down like Pompeii on the glass over the Opera House Foreshore Foyer we drank champagne & stuffed our faces, thoroughly enjoying ourselves with relatives from Europe.
My only complaint was slightly sore neck from looking up!
One year the fireworks were cancelled, shifted 26 days due to rain for another go, not too many complaints at the time!
Just my opinion,
All these fires are unusually early for the time of year,
Many councils have cancelled their own firework displays for different reasons, imo it would have been good if the capital cities had have done the same but the tourist $ are huge, as we all know
Don't understand.
Which words are insensitive etc.
As I see it, the tragic loss of life & the fantastic contributions of Volunteers as well as paid fire fighters, and the NY Fireworks are completely dissociated matters.
Of course we all are entitled to our opinions & the right to express them .. in a civil manner.
www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-01/adelaide-riverbank-catches-alight-after-new-years-eve-fireworks/11835480
Fortunately, the authorities saw fit to tie up a fire brigade for the duration of the event, otherwise it may have been a disaster if they had been away fighting real fires in the surrounding hills.
I agree. 100%.
I'm rather bemused by all this.
No one has answered my request for information on which words are 'insensitive, shallow, disrespectful ... etc'.
Perhaps Mariner30 can help by telling me what he was referring to.
I am not bemused by the current bushfire situation, I get that, but rather by the claim that some words are 'insensitive, shallow, disrespectful ... etc'.
I just want to know if you were referring to any of my words, given that your post followed directly after my comments. Having re read my post, I can't see how they could attract such a reaction except perhaps if my comments about ScoMo offended. Maybe they were unnecessary.
In case you misinterpreted my intent please be assured that I have a great appreciation of the contribution of emergency services personnel of all sorts, paid or volunteers and have great empathy for all those who have lost loved ones or even possessions in this current tragedy. I too, like you did in the CFA, have made personal contributions to disaster relief in the past. In just one case it took me away from my young family for 3 months.
Local ratbags set off fireworks at 3AM on weekends, presumably after they've consumed their drugs and alcohol. One bird breeder told me that his birds drop dead off the perch out of sheer fright.
No cupie,
It wasn't a crack at you or your opinion...however wrong it is you ARE entitled to it lol
No, those words...and others... are what l saw, read and heard in a number of different debates on the subject of cancelling the fireworks,
In newspapers, TV and radio...plus the odd pub test or two,
The original post did ask " what are your thoughts " or similiar
Mariner 30 ... Thanks for the clarification.