National Parks and Wildlife officers are urging us not to pick up sticks to use as walking sticks.
They say when lots of people do that it has an impact on wildlife.
They recommend people bring walking poles rather than grabbing a stick from the bush.
Possum3 said
07:31 AM Feb 24, 2020
I always pick up a good straightish stick - picking up kindling, removes deadfall. I was always taught never to return to camp without picking up deadfall and I have taught my children and grandchildren similarly. Along with "kick before you pick" rule for snake awareness.
I totally disagree with National Sparks and Wildfires - Kindling and sticks do not become significant wildlife habitat - logs and hollow branches do.
My personal opinion is that NPWS is attempting to show that they care, in an attempt to diffuse property owner resentment for their role in allowing fuel to build up prior to catastrophic fires that devastated Australian bushlands.
They were nowhere to be seen along my property fence-line, when fires were coming at 34 -40 meter high flames out of the National park.
Wizardofoz said
07:33 AM Feb 24, 2020
Ah well, better get used to this new world society, animals are now far more important than humans and to complete the perfect picture, in the end, we will need to become VEGAN, to comply to future plans.
-- Edited by Wizardofoz on Monday 24th of February 2020 07:35:39 AM
-- Edited by Wizardofoz on Monday 24th of February 2020 07:37:44 AM
llochris said
07:34 AM Feb 24, 2020
Thats why we have so bigger bush fires
Dougwe said
07:41 AM Feb 24, 2020
Wizardofoz wrote:
Ah well, better get used to this new world society, animals are now far more important than humans and to complete the perfect picture, in the end, we will need to become VEGAN, to comply to future plans.
-- Edited by Wizardofoz on Monday 24th of February 2020 07:35:39 AM
-- Edited by Wizardofoz on Monday 24th of February 2020 07:37:44 AM
Planet if the Apes, comes to mind there.
I know a couple of human animals too.
SouthernComfort said
07:58 AM Feb 24, 2020
A parks and wildlife dictate 'reported' by the ABC. Need we say more.
Whenarewethere said
08:18 AM Feb 24, 2020
I have never picked a stick up for walking but do pick up rubbish pretty much every bush walk.
I get pretty sick and tired of these so called experts that come along saying things like this.
We now are not supposed to pat a wild animal or have interaction with them. Yet the same people telling us this will stress the animals out will happily catch them, push and prod about and fit trackers to them in the name of some sort of research, which probably stresses them more. Wild animals will not interact with humans unless they want to. In my opinion we should be encouraged to interact and then maybe our future generations with learn a love and respect for our native wild life.
I have never heard a bigger pile of absolute horse hockey than this latest choice piece over the sticks. They must be well and truly bored to come up with this.
Izabarack said
02:08 PM Feb 24, 2020
dorian wrote:
National Parks and Wildlife officers are urging us not to pick up sticks to use as walking sticks.
They say when lots of people do that it has an impact on wildlife.
An article asking people to think about their actions. The logic behind the advice should be understandable to anyone with an IQ higher than their age. The advice should be of particular interest to anyone who wants to leave something close to natural for their kids and generations to come. Even my Great Grandkids understand the effect of lots of people doing an apparently small thing until the effects become a big thing. My GGKids are already doing the Leave No Trace thing and take pride in handing a bag of rubbish collected at a campsite to me to put in the bin. Articles like the one referenced tell my GGKds they are doing a good thing for themselves and their peers.
Iza
blaze said
04:15 PM Feb 24, 2020
I am with you Iza on this, what do people think leave no trace means and yes, if you take your time to look around the forest floor you will see it does make a home for many
cheers
blaze
SouthernComfort said
09:02 AM Feb 25, 2020
Next time you admire the forest floor, remember its role in exacerbating the devastation caused by bush fires. Good grief, the fire events this season should have made that more obvious than ever. As for protecting the homes of many creatures dwelling on the forest floor, are we forgetting the millions of animals and their habitats lost (not to mention the impact on humans!!) in the bush fires fuelled by an over abundant forest floor??
'Leave no trace' is a noble and sound philosophy, especially when it comes to littering. But let's not get carried away, if the extreme of 'leave no trace' is applied, then nowhere should be accessible by humans. Nowhere at all. We should all exist in a bubble and never be allowed outside to interact with nature. So, better sell those caravans, and the first to go would be all those off road warriors leaving their stamp on the bush.
-- Edited by SouthernComfort on Tuesday 25th of February 2020 09:06:00 AM
Eaglemax said
10:02 AM Feb 25, 2020
Wizardofoz said
Ah well, better get used to this new world society, animals are now far more important than humans
I dont know why humans were ever more important than humans to begin with.
From my lifetime with interacting with some humans, locking them up, hunting them down, defending against their violence, dealing with their manipulation, tolerating cults and their family destroying ways, inconsideration, pollution, fraud, deceit.... the list goes on, Id rather animals any day.
As for not picking up a stick, it is natural for humans to do so, we are a part of this world not aliens.
Tony
Wizardofoz said
02:49 PM Feb 26, 2020
Meanwhile unrwisting the replies and back to the specific TOPIC..
YES, if required, pick up a walking stick.
Tony Bev said
10:24 AM Feb 27, 2020
I do believe that after the recent fires, there will be a rethink, on how our leaders plan, (if they make a plan), on how to reduce the fire intensity, in the future
I do not believe that we can have both, (leaving the undergrowth for the smaller animals, and removing the undergrowth, to avoid the fires)
As Wizardofoz has already said, to get back on topic, I would pick up a stick
National Parks and Wildlife officers are urging us not to pick up sticks to use as walking sticks.
They say when lots of people do that it has an impact on wildlife.
They recommend people bring walking poles rather than grabbing a stick from the bush.
I totally disagree with National Sparks and Wildfires - Kindling and sticks do not become significant wildlife habitat - logs and hollow branches do.
My personal opinion is that NPWS is attempting to show that they care, in an attempt to diffuse property owner resentment for their role in allowing fuel to build up prior to catastrophic fires that devastated Australian bushlands.
They were nowhere to be seen along my property fence-line, when fires were coming at 34 -40 meter high flames out of the National park.
Ah well, better get used to this new world society, animals are now far more important than humans and to complete the perfect picture, in the end, we will need to become VEGAN, to comply to future plans.
-- Edited by Wizardofoz on Monday 24th of February 2020 07:35:39 AM
-- Edited by Wizardofoz on Monday 24th of February 2020 07:37:44 AM
Thats why we have so bigger bush fires
Planet if the Apes, comes to mind there.
I know a couple of human animals too.
I have never picked a stick up for walking but do pick up rubbish pretty much every bush walk.
And while I'm at it, how do National Sparks and Wildfires put out a fire in the kitchen? Start a back burn in the loungeroom.
Take them on our walks as they give us a bit of confidence, especially me with my carnival knee from football.
They are nothing special, costing less than $10 each at an Anaconda or Rays Outdoors sale.
Well worth the investment.
Today's collection!
An article asking people to think about their actions. The logic behind the advice should be understandable to anyone with an IQ higher than their age. The advice should be of particular interest to anyone who wants to leave something close to natural for their kids and generations to come. Even my Great Grandkids understand the effect of lots of people doing an apparently small thing until the effects become a big thing. My GGKids are already doing the Leave No Trace thing and take pride in handing a bag of rubbish collected at a campsite to me to put in the bin. Articles like the one referenced tell my GGKds they are doing a good thing for themselves and their peers.
Iza
cheers
blaze
Next time you admire the forest floor, remember its role in exacerbating the devastation caused by bush fires. Good grief, the fire events this season should have made that more obvious than ever. As for protecting the homes of many creatures dwelling on the forest floor, are we forgetting the millions of animals and their habitats lost (not to mention the impact on humans!!) in the bush fires fuelled by an over abundant forest floor??
'Leave no trace' is a noble and sound philosophy, especially when it comes to littering. But let's not get carried away, if the extreme of 'leave no trace' is applied, then nowhere should be accessible by humans. Nowhere at all. We should all exist in a bubble and never be allowed outside to interact with nature. So, better sell those caravans, and the first to go would be all those off road warriors leaving their stamp on the bush.
-- Edited by SouthernComfort on Tuesday 25th of February 2020 09:06:00 AM
YES, if required, pick up a walking stick.
I do not believe that we can have both, (leaving the undergrowth for the smaller animals, and removing the undergrowth, to avoid the fires)
As Wizardofoz has already said, to get back on topic, I would pick up a stick