Where do you free campers dispose of you cassette contents on your long stops (thanks Gundog)
Dougwe said
08:04 AM Apr 16, 2020
Morning Ian,
I make sure I stop near a 'dump point' town when I know the toot needs emptying.
Long term stays...I have been lucky in my now 9 years of being on the road and managed to have a 'dump point' at the location staying/nearby or in a nearby town.
If I am doing a house sit or similar and using my toot and lucky enough to empty in the toilet, I use septic friendly flavours. I had one house sit where the owners actually rigged up a sort off dump point that I emptied into their system via that. Again I used septic friendly flavours.
In other words, I try to plan ahead. Has worked so far.
Keep Safe out there.
Radar said
08:12 AM Apr 16, 2020
I don't have real plan as such but I do have a lose rule."I think trice before I drive past a blue lid anywhere, anytime".
Mostly every 2 days I like to do the job.
the rocket said
08:34 AM Apr 16, 2020
Designated dump points
iana said
09:15 AM Apr 16, 2020
I have had to dig a hole at one spot, in the middle of nowhere (by the sea), lesson learnt, don't dig a hole in clay, it won't soak away!
Peter_n_Margaret said
09:53 AM Apr 16, 2020
Because of where we travel, 95% of our toilet waste goes into a hole.
We keep a constant watch out for suitable places as we drive and you must have a decent shovel to do a decent job.
Thanks Ian for an honesty reply, there are many free camper who do the same.
msg said
10:13 AM Apr 16, 2020
Looks like you are burying the whole thing Peter. lol
llochris said
10:42 AM Apr 16, 2020
We drooped ours down an old bungarrow (goanna) hole. We were on our prospecting lease for 2 years,250 klms north of Kalgoorlie.
Aussie1 said
10:51 AM Apr 16, 2020
Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
Because of where we travel, 95% of our toilet waste goes into a hole.
We keep a constant watch out for suitable places as we drive and you must have a decent shovel to do a decent job.
This hole is in the Simpson Desert.
Cheers,
Peter
No "copy write" on this one Peter
iana said
11:05 AM Apr 16, 2020
Pays to dig the hole nice and deep, hides all those "Flavors" .
Gundog said
11:13 AM Apr 16, 2020
That sort of goes against the CMCA leave no trace, if your burying black water then what's the issue with grey water on the ground.
Peter_n_Margaret said
11:52 AM Apr 16, 2020
Aussie1, All of our photos are copyright, as are yours and everyone else's too.
Gundog wrote:
That sort of goes against the CMCA leave no trace, if your burying black water then what's the issue with grey water on the ground.
Depends entirely on where you are. Grey water can be buried too.
Cheers,
Peter
Aussie1 said
12:04 PM Apr 16, 2020
Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
Aussie1, All of our photos are copyright, as are yours and everyone else's too.
Gundog wrote:
That sort of goes against the CMCA leave no trace, if your burying black water then what's the issue with grey water on the ground.
Depends entirely on where you are. Grey water can be buried too.
Cheers,
Peter
Nah, copyright doesn't concern me, feel free anyone who would like to copy any or all pictures I put on here Please note the smiley faces this time, life ain't that serious. Well last time I checked that is.
Aussie1 said
12:08 PM Apr 16, 2020
llochris wrote:
We drooped ours down an old bungarrow (goanna) hole. We were on our prospecting lease for 2 years,250 klms north of Kalgoorlie.
Hi IIochris,
I like that idea, no shovel and no strain on the back. Also all out of sight .
Plain Truth said
12:22 PM Apr 16, 2020
Gundog wrote:
That sort of goes against the CMCA leave no trace, if your burying black water then what's the issue with grey water on the ground.
I don't think anyone is going to go looking for it.Let alone find in the Desert.
Meredith said
12:38 PM Apr 16, 2020
Unless you are seriously remote use a dump point, Wikicamps shows where dump points are. Peter may go places where there are no dump points and digging a hole works, but the majority of people don't.
Tony Bev said
12:55 PM Apr 16, 2020
Hi Ian
I carry a long handle shovel, similar to Peter, (Peter and Margaret), in case it is ever needed
Up to date I have not needed it yet
I only ever use, either Napisan, or Boost, as I am led to believe that, it is safe in all wet septic tank systems
After every trip, the last place to empty the cassette, is down my own toilet, at home base
I find where the dump points are, using Wikicamps, and Camps Australia Wide books
Whenever I pass a dump point, I am prepared to empty the cassette, as Napisan or Boost is very cheap
Plus (I find for me), the lighter the cassette, then the better it is for my old back
bgt said
12:55 PM Apr 16, 2020
Keep in mind that the CMCA also has a Bush Camping Code.
blaze said
01:21 PM Apr 16, 2020
We have been digging long drops at a campsite we have used for of 20 years, from year to to we have never redug a failed hole. Should be very fertile soil around that area.
cheers
blaze
Peter_n_Margaret said
02:35 PM Apr 16, 2020
bgt wrote:
Keep in mind that the CMCA also has a Bush Camping Code.
There is no mention of what to do if there was no dump point available.
Too hard, so ignore it.
Cheers,
Peter
Bicyclecamper said
03:56 PM Apr 16, 2020
LIke you P And M, I am a predominately an remote outback traveller by bicycle mostly, and use a small, mini shovel for my toileting. I have only once found an old toilet out there, a long drop in the middle of nowhere, with no other building around, in good condition no snakes or spiders, so used it. But if their is no toilet and I am 300km from anywhere I have to do it in the bush. Same with our porta-potty, we bury it deep, when in the outback for weeks at a time. No other choice.
-- Edited by Bicyclecamper on Thursday 16th of April 2020 03:59:23 PM
Eaglemax said
06:41 PM Apr 16, 2020
Im not bound by the CMCA
The Travelling Dillberries said
07:40 PM Apr 16, 2020
What is CMCA????
vanTas said
08:02 PM Apr 16, 2020
The CMCA is the Caravan, Motor Home and Camper Association.
They have a big membership, but despite their name, most members seem to regard caravan people as being less favourable. There are exceptions though.
The CMCA have sponsored the installation of many "black water dump points" and have taken a lead role in trying to clean Aussie up as regards toilet waste.
They arrange several benefits and discounts for their members.
In the world of caravan users, plus anyone else who wants to join, the Australian Caravan Club is a rising star. They have a national membership, running national musters, but with numerous local groups doing their own local thing as well. They also have benefits and discounts.
The ACC does not shun members of the CMCA or any other organisation also being in the ACC.
PeterInSa said
08:31 PM Apr 16, 2020
I am a member of the CMCA ie:
The Campervan and Motorhome Club of Australia
iana said
09:03 PM Apr 16, 2020
Cassette Management Causing Anguish
Craig1 said
09:24 PM Apr 16, 2020
May I suggest a Post Hole Auger is a much better tool for hole digging in anything but sand. A full depth 6'" hole will hold 20 litres, so 2 holes per cassette, and easy dig
Mobi Condo said
09:54 PM Apr 16, 2020
An intriguing thread to say the least.
Being of a few, quite a few, decades in age I well remember, as a young child, the house block perimeter trench where our toilet 20l(4 Gallon) bucket from the out house was deposited and back filled as the weeks went by, eventually a full block perimeter was achieved and was then dug over again. We lived in suburbia as well! It was the source of nutrient for tomatoes, pumpkins etc. as well.
So we practice similar when way out back. The spot is chosen, surface flora leaf litter etc. is scraped away a 40 litre hole is dug, at least 300mm deep, the deposit is made and then after 1/2 hr or so when most fluid is soaked (and it is mostly fluid slurry) the hole is back filled, soils is levelled back to as near as it was and then leaf litter etc spread back over. Why 40 litre hole? Well it makes plenty of room for 20litres of slurry before back fill is done.
Funny side was once I was so proud of camouflaging my work that I showed my wife how to try and find the deposit and was unable to find it until I stuck my foot in the freshly disturbed earth!
Cheers -Ian of many years of experience of No Trace Camping.
jade46 said
06:13 AM Apr 17, 2020
I have a second cassette for emergency if caught between dump points. Don't overfill the first one if you have to store for a few days. Allways use the correct chemical it's not really that expensive.
Where do you free campers dispose of you cassette contents on your long stops (thanks Gundog)
I make sure I stop near a 'dump point' town when I know the toot needs emptying.
Long term stays...I have been lucky in my now 9 years of being on the road and managed to have a 'dump point' at the location staying/nearby or in a nearby town.
If I am doing a house sit or similar and using my toot and lucky enough to empty in the toilet, I use septic friendly flavours. I had one house sit where the owners actually rigged up a sort off dump point that I emptied into their system via that. Again I used septic friendly flavours.
In other words, I try to plan ahead. Has worked so far.
Keep Safe out there.
I don't have real plan as such but I do have a lose rule."I think trice before I drive past a blue lid anywhere, anytime".
Mostly every 2 days I like to do the job.
Designated dump points
Because of where we travel, 95% of our toilet waste goes into a hole.
We keep a constant watch out for suitable places as we drive and you must have a decent shovel to do a decent job.
This hole is in the Simpson Desert.
Cheers,
Peter
No "copy write" on this one Peter
Pays to dig the hole nice and deep, hides all those "Flavors"
.
Depends entirely on where you are. Grey water can be buried too.
Cheers,
Peter
Nah, copyright doesn't concern me, feel free anyone who would like to copy any or all pictures I put on here
Please note the smiley faces this time, life ain't that serious. Well last time I checked that is.
Hi IIochris,
I like that idea, no shovel and no strain on the back. Also all out of sight
.
I don't think anyone is going to go looking for it.Let alone find in the Desert.
I carry a long handle shovel, similar to Peter, (Peter and Margaret), in case it is ever needed
Up to date I have not needed it yet
I only ever use, either Napisan, or Boost, as I am led to believe that, it is safe in all wet septic tank systems
After every trip, the last place to empty the cassette, is down my own toilet, at home base
I find where the dump points are, using Wikicamps, and Camps Australia Wide books
Whenever I pass a dump point, I am prepared to empty the cassette, as Napisan or Boost is very cheap
Plus (I find for me), the lighter the cassette, then the better it is for my old back
cheers
blaze
There is no mention of what to do if there was no dump point available.
Too hard, so ignore it.
Cheers,
Peter
LIke you P And M, I am a predominately an remote outback traveller by bicycle mostly, and use a small, mini shovel for my toileting. I have only once found an old toilet out there, a long drop in the middle of nowhere, with no other building around, in good condition no snakes or spiders, so used it. But if their is no toilet and I am 300km from anywhere I have to do it in the bush. Same with our porta-potty, we bury it deep, when in the outback for weeks at a time. No other choice.
-- Edited by Bicyclecamper on Thursday 16th of April 2020 03:59:23 PM
What is CMCA????
They have a big membership, but despite their name, most members seem to regard caravan people as being less favourable. There are exceptions though.
The CMCA have sponsored the installation of many "black water dump points" and have taken a lead role in trying to clean Aussie up as regards toilet waste.
They arrange several benefits and discounts for their members.
In the world of caravan users, plus anyone else who wants to join, the Australian Caravan Club is a rising star. They have a national membership, running national musters, but with numerous local groups doing their own local thing as well. They also have benefits and discounts.
The ACC does not shun members of the CMCA or any other organisation also being in the ACC.
The Campervan and Motorhome Club of Australia
Cassette Management Causing Anguish
Being of a few, quite a few, decades in age I well remember, as a young child, the house block perimeter trench where our toilet 20l(4 Gallon) bucket from the out house was deposited and back filled as the weeks went by, eventually a full block perimeter was achieved and was then dug over again. We lived in suburbia as well! It was the source of nutrient for tomatoes, pumpkins etc. as well.
So we practice similar when way out back. The spot is chosen, surface flora leaf litter etc. is scraped away a 40 litre hole is dug, at least 300mm deep, the deposit is made and then after 1/2 hr or so when most fluid is soaked (and it is mostly fluid slurry) the hole is back filled, soils is levelled back to as near as it was and then leaf litter etc spread back over. Why 40 litre hole? Well it makes plenty of room for 20litres of slurry before back fill is done.
Funny side was once I was so proud of camouflaging my work that I showed my wife how to try and find the deposit and was unable to find it until I stuck my foot in the freshly disturbed earth!
Cheers -Ian of many years of experience of No Trace Camping.