Live in western Sydney. I require advice & assistance
Dougwe said
10:28 AM Jul 2, 2020
Welcome to the gang John, enjoy here and out in the playground.
If you click on 'Search' in the thick blue line above and type in 'diesel heaters' there is heaps and heaps of info that will help you out.
I have a Gas heater fitted to my aluminium teepee and love it.
Keep Safe on the roads and out there.
Magnarc said
10:48 AM Jul 2, 2020
I second Dougwe's remarks John Welcome to the forum. Yep gas is the go mate, no smell, no exhaust to clean, no glow plug problems, no fuel tank to install, no filters to clean and instant heat!!!!!!
Wanda said
11:06 AM Jul 2, 2020
"You require advise and assistance", well lets try this, "look both ways when you cross the road".
Maybe you could be just a little bit more specific on actually "what" you require.
regards
Ian
The Travelling Dillberries said
12:08 PM Jul 2, 2020
Couldn't agree more with Magnarc, forget Diesel.
There is a Facebook page devoted to curing the hundreds of problems that arise every week with cheap Chinese diesel heaters. If you get a good one you can thank your lucky stars. However you can buy quality diesel heaters with good performance at a higher cost.
Cheers
Chris.
-- Edited by The Travelling Dillberries on Thursday 2nd of July 2020 12:09:33 PM
-- Edited by The Travelling Dillberries on Thursday 2nd of July 2020 02:59:09 PM
Dougwe said
12:20 PM Jul 2, 2020
G'day Chris and Sharyn,
Have another read of Magnarc's comment. I think you misread it.
Peter_n_Margaret said
12:27 PM Jul 2, 2020
The OP was asking about diesel.
Diesel is a fraction of the cost of gas to run and a fraction of the weight to store and there are plenty who run either cheap diesel heaters or name German ones with total satisfaction.
Cheers,
Peter
yobarr said
12:51 PM Jul 2, 2020
Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
The OP was asking about diesel. Diesel is a fraction of the cost of gas to run and a fraction of the weight to store and there are plenty who run either cheap diesel heaters or name German ones with total satisfaction. Cheers,Peter
Absolutely agree on all points,Peter.My diesel heater heats 20 feet van no worries,uses very little fuel,gives 60 degree hot water in 20 minutes,and diesel is easily obtained anywhere I wish to travel.No gas appliances in my van,as everything,including A/C, is run off batteries.Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Thursday 2nd of July 2020 03:42:35 PM
Mike Harding said
01:40 PM Jul 2, 2020
Most of these cold mornings, shortly after arising, I am on my knees chanting "Blessed be the Diesel Heater" :)
The Chinese diesel heaters work surprisingly well. On average mine (5kW) uses 125ml diesel per hour.
A guy on Youtube has done an excellent series of videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvwmU_CcmGI
The Travelling Dillberries said
02:58 PM Jul 2, 2020
Dougwe wrote:
G'day Chris and Sharyn,
Have another read of Magnarc's comment. I think you misread it.
Thanks Doug, one word changed the intent!!
Bicyclecamper said
03:30 PM Jul 2, 2020
I like my new system, old design. I have a 15 kilo river rock, and cook it on an outside fire, for a couple of hours, then use welding gloves to pick it up and set it downon my Dutch oven on a ceramic tile on the floor. It keeps the caravan warm for at least 5 hours.
-- Edited by Bicyclecamper on Thursday 2nd of July 2020 03:31:32 PM
Peter_n_Margaret said
04:44 PM Jul 2, 2020
Another plus for diesel. After a couple of hours "study" any half competent DIYer can install their own.
A gas heater requires a licensed gas fitter and a gas certificate.
Cheers,
Peter
The Travelling Dillberries said
05:51 PM Jul 2, 2020
Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
Another plus for diesel. After a couple of hours "study" any half competent DIYer can install their own. A gas heater requires a licensed gas fitter and a gas certificate. Cheers, Peter
So the gas install would therefore be much safer as it has been certified as such.
Peter_n_Margaret said
05:59 PM Jul 2, 2020
The Travelling Dillberries wrote:
Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
Another plus for diesel. After a couple of hours "study" any half competent DIYer can install their own. A gas heater requires a licensed gas fitter and a gas certificate. Cheers, Peter
So the gas install would therefore be much safer as it has been certified as such.
Not at all.
Gas is inherently much more dangerous to start with. Diesel is inherently safe.
Cheers,
Peter
Mike Harding said
06:14 PM Jul 2, 2020
Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
The Travelling Dillberries wrote:
Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
Another plus for diesel. After a couple of hours "study" any half competent DIYer can install their own. A gas heater requires a licensed gas fitter and a gas certificate.
So the gas install would therefore be much safer as it has been certified as such.
Not at all.
Gas is inherently much more dangerous to start with. Diesel is inherently safe.
Pay no attention Dillberry - keep on trying to justify your choice.
I need a good laugh.
The Travelling Dillberries said
06:49 PM Jul 2, 2020
Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
The Travelling Dillberries wrote:
Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
Another plus for diesel. After a couple of hours "study" any half competent DIYer can install their own. A gas heater requires a licensed gas fitter and a gas certificate. Cheers, Peter
So the gas install would therefore be much safer as it has been certified as such.
Not at all.
Gas is inherently much more dangerous to start with. Diesel is inherently safe.
Cheers,
Peter
I was referring to the actual Install, pretty obvious Gas is more dangerous. Plenty of shoddy installs of Diesel heaters you can view.
Anyway I'm sure the others and myself were just trying to point Fairgoguy in a direction he would be pleased with. Maybe he doesnt even have Gas in the Van.
bomurra said
07:53 PM Jul 2, 2020
Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
The OP was asking about diesel. Diesel is a fraction of the cost of gas to run and a fraction of the weight to store and there are plenty who run either cheap diesel heaters or name German ones with total satisfaction. Cheers, Peter
Add to the above, if you are handy you can install and repair diesel heaters yourself, so repairs and maintenance costs are minimal.
Gas heaters are just that, "gas heaters", they need to be installed, maintained and repaired by a licensed gas fitter, and added to your caravan gas license to ensure legal conformity.
Running costs are easily calculable, do the math and I think you will agree that diesel wins on this score also. Gas consumption varies between - 90g/h, 190g/h, Diesel consumption varies between 0.010 to 0.28 L/hr. Don't forget cost of gas in remote locations is double city price.
Power usage is basically the same for both heater types when running, diesel uses a little more to heat the glow plug during initial start up, for a few minutes.
Diesel heaters are not rocket science, they are simple devices that require correct installation, set up and operation, then they will reward you with years of trouble free operation.
-- Edited by bomurra on Thursday 2nd of July 2020 07:57:07 PM
Magnarc said
08:22 AM Jul 3, 2020
I notice that no one has mentioned the difference between the the two systems with regard to maintenance, cleaning, smell etc: etc:????????
Topics like this are a never ending story, it's a circular discussion which will never convince one side or the other so I say to the poster put " RV Plumber Don Valley" into Google and you will find all that you need to know to help you decide and make your decision accordingly because, ultimately, you are the one who has to be satisfied.
-- Edited by Magnarc on Friday 3rd of July 2020 08:26:56 AM
Wanda said
08:24 AM Jul 3, 2020
Your all arguing about nothing the poster has sort!
He actually has not asked anything
With only 2 posts in 5yrs, I suspect he is just a time waster
Still, give ya jaws a good workout
Ian
Wanda said
08:27 AM Jul 3, 2020
Your all arguing about nothing the poster has sort!
He actually has not asked anything
With only 2 posts in 5yrs, I suspect he is just a time waster, he has not even commented in 24hrs?
Still, give ya jaws a good workout
Ian
Peter_n_Margaret said
08:58 AM Jul 3, 2020
Magnarc wrote:
I notice that no one has mentioned the difference between the the two systems with regard to maintenance, cleaning, smell etc: etc:????????
Maybe that is because we have never done any of those since our diesel heater was installed some years ago.
Cheers,
Peter
vince56 said
09:05 AM Jul 3, 2020
5 days in a bush camp, small plastic lightweight tank of diesel, temps down to -2 overnight, used the diesel heater every morning for an hour or so and every night for several hours, used around 2 litres of juice in total. Gas bottles full giving us two fuel sources, gas running the fridge, hot water and cooktop. What's not to like?
yobarr said
09:21 AM Jul 3, 2020
Magnarc wrote:
I notice that no one has mentioned the difference between the the two systems with regard to maintenance, cleaning, smell etc: etc:????????
-- Edited by Magnarc on Friday 3rd of July 2020 08:26:56 AM
No maintenance,no cleaning,no smell......and no comparison really.Diesel by a country mile...there is nothing in my van that uses gas,and I can obtain diesel almost anywhere I need to.Cheers
bilbo said
09:29 AM Jul 3, 2020
What is a "heater"????.....cheers Bilbo
Magnarc said
09:57 AM Jul 3, 2020
Hi Fairgoguy, May I suggest that you read a post by Iana on June 26th. Just put Diesel heater problems into the search button.
travelyounger said
10:15 AM Jul 3, 2020
In my van all the appliances are LPG,12 volt and 240 volt.I have had van for three years and live in it full time and use the hot water gas heater oven and burners regularly and have no smell ,no maintenance and is available just about every where .I also carry a Honda 2.2 for the odd time we need for backup power
Magnarc said
11:33 AM Jul 3, 2020
Topic has gone very quiet.
-- Edited by Magnarc on Friday 3rd of July 2020 11:38:24 AM
markf said
12:52 PM Jul 3, 2020
The Travelling Dillberries wrote:
Couldn't agree more with Magnarc, forget Diesel.
There is a Facebook page devoted to curing the hundreds of problems that arise every week with cheap Chinese diesel heaters. If you get a good one you can thank your lucky stars. However you can buy quality diesel heaters with good performance at a higher cost.
Cheers
Chris.
-- Edited by The Travelling Dillberries on Thursday 2nd of July 2020 12:09:33 PM
-- Edited by The Travelling Dillberries on Thursday 2nd of July 2020 02:59:09 PM
If it's the group that I think it is, it is an international group which has about 47,000 members and only a small number of people post about problems. A lot of those problems are self inflicted.
There are a LOT of cheap Chinese diesel heaters out there that work flawlessly and have done since day one.
-- Edited by markf on Friday 3rd of July 2020 12:53:11 PM
Monica W said
01:46 PM Jul 6, 2020
The LPG heaters are so expensive to repair can be cheaper to buy a complete new unit than buy spares and pay labour to repair. Gas usage at 190gm/h 5 to 7 hours per 1kg makes gas heaters expensive to run. Generally in winter 7 to 8 days for 9kg. In rural areas you will pay up to $47 for 8.5kg swap bottle. Many with gas heaters, gas fridge, gas hot water find it cheaper to go to a caravan park than free camp. Diesel heaters are ultra reliable provided installed correctly, and fuel tank kept out of the weather.. Low voltage is diesel heater biggest issue along with people that don't listen or accept bad advice and cannot read and follow instructions.
Live in western Sydney. I require advice & assistance
If you click on 'Search' in the thick blue line above and type in 'diesel heaters' there is heaps and heaps of info that will help you out.
I have a Gas heater fitted to my aluminium teepee and love it.
Keep Safe on the roads and out there.
I second Dougwe's remarks John Welcome to the forum. Yep gas is the go mate, no smell, no exhaust to clean, no glow plug problems, no fuel tank to install, no filters to clean and instant heat!!!!!!
Maybe you could be just a little bit more specific on actually "what" you require.
regards
Ian
Couldn't agree more with Magnarc, forget Diesel.
There is a Facebook page devoted to curing the hundreds of problems that arise every week with cheap Chinese diesel heaters. If you get a good one you can thank your lucky stars. However you can buy quality diesel heaters with good performance at a higher cost.
Cheers
Chris.
-- Edited by The Travelling Dillberries on Thursday 2nd of July 2020 12:09:33 PM
-- Edited by The Travelling Dillberries on Thursday 2nd of July 2020 02:59:09 PM
Have another read of Magnarc's comment. I think you misread it.
Diesel is a fraction of the cost of gas to run and a fraction of the weight to store and there are plenty who run either cheap diesel heaters or name German ones with total satisfaction.
Cheers,
Peter
Absolutely agree on all points,Peter.My diesel heater heats 20 feet van no worries,uses very little fuel,gives 60 degree hot water in 20 minutes,and diesel is easily obtained anywhere I wish to travel.No gas appliances in my van,as everything,including A/C, is run off batteries.Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Thursday 2nd of July 2020 03:42:35 PM
Most of these cold mornings, shortly after arising, I am on my knees chanting "Blessed be the Diesel Heater" :)
The Chinese diesel heaters work surprisingly well. On average mine (5kW) uses 125ml diesel per hour.
A guy on Youtube has done an excellent series of videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvwmU_CcmGI
Thanks Doug, one word changed the intent!!
I like my new system, old design. I have a 15 kilo river rock, and cook it on an outside fire, for a couple of hours, then use welding gloves to pick it up and set it downon my Dutch oven on a ceramic tile on the floor. It keeps the caravan warm for at least 5 hours.
-- Edited by Bicyclecamper on Thursday 2nd of July 2020 03:31:32 PM
A gas heater requires a licensed gas fitter and a gas certificate.
Cheers,
Peter
So the gas install would therefore be much safer as it has been certified as such.
Not at all.
Gas is inherently much more dangerous to start with. Diesel is inherently safe.
Cheers,
Peter
Pay no attention Dillberry - keep on trying to justify your choice.
I need a good laugh.
I was referring to the actual Install, pretty obvious Gas is more dangerous. Plenty of shoddy installs of Diesel heaters you can view.
Anyway I'm sure the others and myself were just trying to point Fairgoguy in a direction he would be pleased with. Maybe he doesnt even have Gas in the Van.
Add to the above, if you are handy you can install and repair diesel heaters yourself, so repairs and maintenance costs are minimal.
Gas heaters are just that, "gas heaters", they need to be installed, maintained and repaired by a licensed gas fitter, and added to your caravan gas license to ensure legal conformity.
Running costs are easily calculable, do the math and I think you will agree that diesel wins on this score also. Gas consumption varies between - 90g/h, 190g/h, Diesel consumption varies between 0.010 to 0.28 L/hr. Don't forget cost of gas in remote locations is double city price.
Power usage is basically the same for both heater types when running, diesel uses a little more to heat the glow plug during initial start up, for a few minutes.
Diesel heaters are not rocket science, they are simple devices that require correct installation, set up and operation, then they will reward you with years of trouble free operation.
-- Edited by bomurra on Thursday 2nd of July 2020 07:57:07 PM
I notice that no one has mentioned the difference between the the two systems with regard to maintenance, cleaning, smell etc: etc:????????
Topics like this are a never ending story, it's a circular discussion which will never convince one side or the other so I say to the poster put " RV Plumber Don Valley" into Google and you will find all that you need to know to help you decide and make your decision accordingly because, ultimately, you are the one who has to be satisfied.
-- Edited by Magnarc on Friday 3rd of July 2020 08:26:56 AM
He actually has not asked anything
With only 2 posts in 5yrs, I suspect he is just a time waster
Still, give ya jaws a good workout
Ian
He actually has not asked anything
With only 2 posts in 5yrs, I suspect he is just a time waster, he has not even commented in 24hrs?
Still, give ya jaws a good workout
Ian
Maybe that is because we have never done any of those since our diesel heater was installed some years ago.
Cheers,
Peter
No maintenance,no cleaning,no smell......and no comparison really.Diesel by a country mile...there is nothing in my van that uses gas,and I can obtain diesel almost anywhere I need to.Cheers
What is a "heater"????.....cheers Bilbo
Hi Fairgoguy, May I suggest that you read a post by Iana on June 26th. Just put Diesel heater problems into the search button.
Topic has gone very quiet.
-- Edited by Magnarc on Friday 3rd of July 2020 11:38:24 AM
If it's the group that I think it is, it is an international group which has about 47,000 members and only a small number of people post about problems. A lot of those problems are self inflicted.
There are a LOT of cheap Chinese diesel heaters out there that work flawlessly and have done since day one.
-- Edited by markf on Friday 3rd of July 2020 12:53:11 PM
The LPG heaters are so expensive to repair can be cheaper to buy a complete new unit than buy spares and pay labour to repair. Gas usage at 190gm/h 5 to 7 hours per 1kg makes gas heaters expensive to run. Generally in winter 7 to 8 days for 9kg. In rural areas you will pay up to $47 for 8.5kg swap bottle. Many with gas heaters, gas fridge, gas hot water find it cheaper to go to a caravan park than free camp.
Diesel heaters are ultra reliable provided installed correctly, and fuel tank kept out of the weather.. Low voltage is diesel heater biggest issue along with people that don't listen or accept bad advice and cannot read and follow instructions.