"Eleven people including nine children have suffered carbon monoxide poisoning after an open charcoal grill was used inside a house.
Two adults and five children are currently in a serious condition after the incident at a residence in South Hobart, a spokesman for the Department of Health said in a statement."
"You can't see, taste, feel or smell carbon monoxide"
Cheers,
Peter
-- Edited by Peter_n_Margaret on Tuesday 14th of July 2020 09:50:32 AM
Whenarewethere said
10:04 AM Jul 14, 2020
I don't get it why people burn things inside.
Warren-Pat_01 said
10:54 AM Jul 14, 2020
Friends of Pat went back to the USA some years ago for a family funeral. The wife & one son were the only ones to return because the (eventually proven faulty) heater in the basement was the cause of wiping out most of the family - including the first person!
icantstop said
02:17 PM Jul 14, 2020
Warren-Pat_01 wrote:
Friends of Pat went back to the USA some years ago for a family funeral. The wife & one son were the only ones to return because the (eventually proven faulty) heater in the basement was the cause of wiping out most of the family - including the first person!
Yes, make sure those flueless gas heaters are serviced properly. They can be a silent killer, particularly in an enclosed space like a bedroom. It almost got me many years ago although it was leaking gas too so I smelt it. I am lucky to be typing here... :)
Cupie said
04:37 PM Jul 14, 2020
Wouldn't those Buddy portable gas heaters be a risk?
I see that they have a CO2 cut out feature.
Whenarewethere said
05:00 PM Jul 14, 2020
icantstop wrote:
It almost got me many years ago although it was leaking gas too so I smelt it. I am lucky to be typing here... :)
Years ago working in North Sydney, 2 doors up in a row of terrace houses tradies were renovating. The owner of that property was also working out the back (nice bloke). He said he never saw 2 workers fly past him so fast.
We smelt a strong smell of gas, soon after the fire brigade turned up & cleared out the street.
The workers were using an angle grinder at the boundary in the basement & under the footpath to eventually build a new wall. They accidentally cut through the gas mains!
Later that day I spoke to one of the fireys & said it was lucky that we all didn't go up. He said that so much gas was coming out that it depleted the air of oxygen.
Woody n Sue said
08:55 PM Jul 17, 2020
But WHY would you bring a charcoal fire inside absolute idiot .
Peter_n_Margaret said
09:19 PM Jul 17, 2020
Woody n Sue wrote:
But WHY would you bring a charcoal fire inside absolute idiot .
RVers have often put flower pots on gas stoves for heating. Just as dangerous - no, more dangerous, because the space is smaller.
Cheers,
Peter
Tony Bev said
09:24 PM Jul 17, 2020
There are obviously, some people who were not aware, of carbon monoxide poisoning
As Peter (Peter n Margaret), has already said
You can not see/taste/feel/smell, carbon monoxide, and it has been known to kill people, in the past
Many years ago, I saw a post from Jules47/Billeee (I think), on this forum They mentioned about a smoke alarm, which was also a carbon monoxide alarm, at Bunnings
It was expensive, compared to an ordinary smoke alarm, but had a guaranteed 10 year life, without fitting a battery
I purchased one, and it worked out not too far off, the same price as a normal smoke alarm, with 10 years supply of batteries
Edit to say
It is called a Quell Worry-Free Photoelectric and Carbon Monoxide Alarm
The item number is I/N: 4211435
It is now down to $68, and it has a guaranteed 10 year lithium battery life
-- Edited by Tony Bev on Friday 17th of July 2020 09:33:18 PM
Mike Harding said
02:49 PM Jul 18, 2020
Aldi sometimes do a CO alarm for about $20 or you can buy one on-line for similar.
Australia does not have an Australian Standard for CO alarms so ensure you buy one which complies with the European standard - can't recall the number but Google will tell you.
CO detectors should be replaced every 10 years or so as the sensor, essentially, wears out.
*CHECK* that your detector actually *WORKS*! Do this by putting it near a camp fire for 20 minutes or maybe a car exhaust and establishing that it produces a non zero reading. Mine has a peak level memory and I ensure this is always a non zero value so I can be reasonably confident that if it changes bad things are happening. Repeat this process every year or so.
As has been stated: CO cannot be detected by the human senses - the first thing you'll know about it is when you don't wake up....
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-14/11-hospitalised-with-carbon-monoxide-poisoning-hobart/12452230
"Eleven people including nine children have suffered carbon monoxide poisoning after an open charcoal grill was used inside a house.
Two adults and five children are currently in a serious condition after the incident at a residence in South Hobart, a spokesman for the Department of Health said in a statement."
"You can't see, taste, feel or smell carbon monoxide"
Cheers,
Peter
-- Edited by Peter_n_Margaret on Tuesday 14th of July 2020 09:50:32 AM
I don't get it why people burn things inside.
Yes, make sure those flueless gas heaters are serviced properly. They can be a silent killer, particularly in an enclosed space like a bedroom. It almost got me many years ago although it was leaking gas too so I smelt it. I am lucky to be typing here... :)
Wouldn't those Buddy portable gas heaters be a risk?
I see that they have a CO2 cut out feature.
Years ago working in North Sydney, 2 doors up in a row of terrace houses tradies were renovating. The owner of that property was also working out the back (nice bloke). He said he never saw 2 workers fly past him so fast.
We smelt a strong smell of gas, soon after the fire brigade turned up & cleared out the street.
The workers were using an angle grinder at the boundary in the basement & under the footpath to eventually build a new wall. They accidentally cut through the gas mains!
Later that day I spoke to one of the fireys & said it was lucky that we all didn't go up. He said that so much gas was coming out that it depleted the air of oxygen.
RVers have often put flower pots on gas stoves for heating. Just as dangerous - no, more dangerous, because the space is smaller.
Cheers,
Peter
There are obviously, some people who were not aware, of carbon monoxide poisoning
As Peter (Peter n Margaret), has already said
You can not see/taste/feel/smell, carbon monoxide, and it has been known to kill people, in the past
Many years ago, I saw a post from Jules47/Billeee (I think), on this forum
They mentioned about a smoke alarm, which was also a carbon monoxide alarm, at Bunnings
It was expensive, compared to an ordinary smoke alarm, but had a guaranteed 10 year life, without fitting a battery
I purchased one, and it worked out not too far off, the same price as a normal smoke alarm, with 10 years supply of batteries
Edit to say
It is called a Quell Worry-Free Photoelectric and Carbon Monoxide Alarm
The item number is I/N: 4211435
It is now down to $68, and it has a guaranteed 10 year lithium battery life
-- Edited by Tony Bev on Friday 17th of July 2020 09:33:18 PM
Aldi sometimes do a CO alarm for about $20 or you can buy one on-line for similar.
Australia does not have an Australian Standard for CO alarms so ensure you buy one which complies with the European standard - can't recall the number but Google will tell you.
CO detectors should be replaced every 10 years or so as the sensor, essentially, wears out.
*CHECK* that your detector actually *WORKS*! Do this by putting it near a camp fire for 20 minutes or maybe a car exhaust and establishing that it produces a non zero reading. Mine has a peak level memory and I ensure this is always a non zero value so I can be reasonably confident that if it changes bad things are happening. Repeat this process every year or so.
As has been stated: CO cannot be detected by the human senses - the first thing you'll know about it is when you don't wake up....