Just camp up in a park or free camp and dp what others are doing. There is some bloody hardworking people in assie ATM with a lot more at stake. stop looking for loop oles and just stay put. My mother passed away about I mont ago, brother stucck in Sydney, sister in Adelaide. I not winging thats the way it is, so some peoples sacrifice seems so trivial.
cheers
blaze
Meredith said
12:13 AM Aug 4, 2020
Hurt the most? Inconvenienced yes, annoying to have your plans upset yes, but they certainly aren't hurt the most. My elderly mother passed away yesterday in a hospital in Melbourne after suffering several strokes over the past few weeks. She didn't have covid, but was not allowed any visitors at all during that time, so was alone during what we know was a terribly scary time for her. We weren't allowed to come until they called us to say she was fading fast and by the time they let us in she was gone. Lots of people are really suffering with these lockdowns and from this disease, not being able to travel isn't that big a hardship.
Mike Harding said
06:21 AM Aug 4, 2020
A bit over the top that article.
I'm back in the same forest camp in which I spent the previous lockdown (11 weeks here then) and shall spend this lockdown here too. Without exception my friends I talk with via Amateur Radio or e-mail are envious of my situation compared to their own and I consider myself to be most fortunate to live rent free in a beautiful spot city people would be happy to pay to camp in.
The *last* thing I want is any kind of formal recognition of nomads because government would make a total mess of it and we'd finish up with many more stifling regulations than we received benefits - just leave us alone to quietly do our own thing.
Your link is for our information and is an interesting story however nomad travel in most cases is recreational. It is not essential.
Lockdown has certainly changed our lifestyle but in the scheme of the virus and its potential danger to elderly folk it is not such a big deal To stay put or stay home and dont go at all.
it is easy, just stay where you are and make the most of the situation. If you are in association with other Nomads, we are all in the same boat. Do what you are permitted to do and above all, stay safe.
Regards
Angie
-- Edited by bentaxlebabe on Tuesday 4th of August 2020 08:05:11 AM
the rocket said
09:10 AM Aug 4, 2020
blaze wrote:
Just camp up in a park or free camp and dp what others are doing. There is some bloody hardworking people in assie ATM with a lot more at stake. stop looking for loop oles and just stay put. My mother passed away about I mont ago, brother stucck in Sydney, sister in Adelaide. I not winging thats the way it is, so some peoples sacrifice seems so trivial. cheers blaze
Hi blaze, so sorry for your loss. Regards rocket
SouthernComfort said
09:11 AM Aug 4, 2020
If you're out there in the sticks somewhere, think yourselves bloody lucky. Here in Melbourne I'm dealing with 3 family members in crisis at the moment, just one day without worry would be pure heaven for us. Countless thousands are in similar circumstances.
Blaze and Meredith, I wholly empathise with you both, my condolences for your losses. My 90y/o mother is also on the brink, holed up in aged care. Hasn't been out since late March, we can't visit, no visitors permitted until at least mid Sept. Fortunately she still knows who we are on the phone but her Dementia has deteriorated rapidly in the last 5 months. Of course, the confinement measures are to minimise the risk of the virus getting in there, but for some, life is fading as a result. Irony at its best.
-- Edited by SouthernComfort on Tuesday 4th of August 2020 09:14:09 AM
the rocket said
09:13 AM Aug 4, 2020
Meredith wrote:
Hurt the most? Inconvenienced yes, annoying to have your plans upset yes, but they certainly aren't hurt the most. My elderly mother passed away yesterday in a hospital in Melbourne after suffering several strokes over the past few weeks. She didn't have covid, but was not allowed any visitors at all during that time, so was alone during what we know was a terribly scary time for her. We weren't allowed to come until they called us to say she was fading fast and by the time they let us in she was gone. Lots of people are really suffering with these lockdowns and from this disease, not being able to travel isn't that big a hardship.
Hi meredith, so sorry for your loss. Very sad you an your family could not be with your Mum. Totally agree, not being able to travel is not even on the bottom run of the hardship ladder.
Have read the article. Some, i agree with. The lockdown hurt me After i fell in a hole at a showground, went 2 hours to hospital and surgery. Day after release, home in caravan, got told, pack up, get out, showgrounds has been shutdown. I could barely get out of bed with a steel plate n 10 bolts in my leg n ankle and a plaster cast. after i complained , got told you could stay till monday. This was saturday. fully setup for a long stay and rent had been paid, strop had to pack it down on his own As well as look after me. After spending saturday on phone to gov. Departments n private places instead of resting i found a lovely caravan park happy to have us. Left next day. So yes, in my case, there was no consideration given to people permanently on the road. Showgrounds were shut near us, free camps all shut near us. Toilets shut at rest stops. we r going to stay here until the crisis is over. rocket
Gundog said
10:02 AM Aug 4, 2020
Apart for a couple of inaccuate statements, there is a few points that are worth looking into, like being identified as being from a particular state by our rego plate. Some government depts accept our life choices, the AEC allows you to suspend your enrollment based on your continual movement you dont need to vote, Centerlink will allow you to claim rent assistance if you dont have a bricks and morter residence ( staying in your own van in a pay to stay facility is the same as renting a place), depending on which particular office or staff member you encounter you can be listed as "No Fixed Address".
Some insurance companies have policies that cater for the Grey Nomad or Itinerant worker.
We have had a thread here discussing postal address and registration etc while not actually living in the state full time, just think of the expense and inconvienence you would have deal with if you were changing everything every few months.
Possum3 said
10:30 AM Aug 4, 2020
Hi Blaze, so sorry for your loss.
Possum
Lily2018 said
12:36 PM Aug 4, 2020
Headlines like this remind me that just because someone has written it and had it published, doesn't mean it's true. It's beyond me why any responsible journalist would even write the words, 'the most', as if we can even begin to compare people's sufferings, as if we're living in some sort of Monty Python sketch trying to see who's having the worst time. It's a hard time for millions of people, both here and around the world so words like 'the most' simply don't belong here. Also ridiculous is their opinion that pre covid the so called OzNomads were 'living the dream', a no stress simple lifestyle, as if moving into a caravan/motorhome somehow magically made the problems we all experience disappear. We should be so lucky.
The article certainly does raise the important point that people like the rocket and strop were told to leave their campsite with only a few hours notice. Thankfully rocket and strop had each other and as difficult as it all was, found somewhere to live. I've also read other people's experiences on being solo and literally wondering if they could find somewhere to park near a town that would allow them to go into town to buy food. This type of reaction to people living in their caravan/motorhome by councils/state governments will surely have to be addressed in the future as the virus shows no sign of ending anytime soon and not many of us have the ability or wish to park somewhere remote for weeks on end.
Perhaps contacting news.com.au reporters Janine Williamson, Simone Faulkner and Najmeh Hassanli and pointing out where their reporting has gone wrong might be an idea. All the best everyone.
The Belmont Bear said
01:42 PM Aug 4, 2020
Sorry for your losses Blaze and Meredith I know how it feels to lose someone when you are unable to be there, I was stuck in Oman and unable to get home when my father passed a couple of years ago and it was a very sad time. For those like Tony currently stuck in Melbourne trying to deal with the stresses involved with being on the frontline I can think of nothing worse I hope that you guys are able to get through this OK.
I was talking to mate yesterday about the possibility of having to re enter lockdown in NSW if this current outbreak is not able to be controlled in Sydney. They own a house in Newcastle and have a rental property on the mid north coast which they will often use themselves. He said that when NSW went into lockdown the first time they were actually staying at their house in Harrington when the police came around to check on rental properties. He told them that he was actually the owner, they asked for his licence and as his address was their house in Newcastle the police told them they had to leave town and return home.
BB
Aus-Kiwi said
10:53 AM Aug 5, 2020
Why is it when we read a story . People go on about their issues ? Thats ok but WHY make it like theirs ONLY matters ? Its like BLM . We all matter . To me if your out there on your own your possibly better off !! Just keep away from congested areas ..
FYI
https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/health-safety/coronavirus-lockdowns-set-to-hurt-australian-nomad-travellers-the-most/news-story/51bd75e9fe9398b86179e319c7291fe7
cheers
blaze
A bit over the top that article.
I'm back in the same forest camp in which I spent the previous lockdown (11 weeks here then) and shall spend this lockdown here too. Without exception my friends I talk with via Amateur Radio or e-mail are envious of my situation compared to their own and I consider myself to be most fortunate to live rent free in a beautiful spot city people would be happy to pay to camp in.
The *last* thing I want is any kind of formal recognition of nomads because government would make a total mess of it and we'd finish up with many more stifling regulations than we received benefits - just leave us alone to quietly do our own thing.
Hi PeterX,
Your link is for our information and is an interesting story however nomad travel in most cases is recreational. It is not essential.
Lockdown has certainly changed our lifestyle but in the scheme of the virus and its potential danger to elderly folk it is not such a big deal To stay put or stay home and dont go at all.
it is easy, just stay where you are and make the most of the situation. If you are in association with other Nomads, we are all in the same boat. Do what you are permitted to do and above all, stay safe.
Regards
Angie
-- Edited by bentaxlebabe on Tuesday 4th of August 2020 08:05:11 AM
Hi blaze, so sorry for your loss. Regards rocket
If you're out there in the sticks somewhere, think yourselves bloody lucky. Here in Melbourne I'm dealing with 3 family members in crisis at the moment, just one day without worry would be pure heaven for us. Countless thousands are in similar circumstances.
Blaze and Meredith, I wholly empathise with you both, my condolences for your losses. My 90y/o mother is also on the brink, holed up in aged care. Hasn't been out since late March, we can't visit, no visitors permitted until at least mid Sept. Fortunately she still knows who we are on the phone but her Dementia has deteriorated rapidly in the last 5 months. Of course, the confinement measures are to minimise the risk of the virus getting in there, but for some, life is fading as a result. Irony at its best.
-- Edited by SouthernComfort on Tuesday 4th of August 2020 09:14:09 AM
Hi meredith, so sorry for your loss. Very sad you an your family could not be with your Mum. Totally agree, not being able to travel is not even on the bottom run of the hardship ladder.
Have read the article. Some, i agree with. The lockdown hurt me After i fell in a hole at a showground, went 2 hours to hospital and surgery. Day after release, home in caravan, got told, pack up, get out, showgrounds has been shutdown. I could barely get out of bed with a steel plate n 10 bolts in my leg n ankle and a plaster cast. after i complained , got told you could stay till monday. This was saturday. fully setup for a long stay and rent had been paid, strop had to pack it down on his own As well as look after me. After spending saturday on phone to gov. Departments n private places instead of resting i found a lovely caravan park happy to have us. Left next day. So yes, in my case, there was no consideration given to people permanently on the road. Showgrounds were shut near us, free camps all shut near us. Toilets shut at rest stops. we r going to stay here until the crisis is over. rocket
Apart for a couple of inaccuate statements, there is a few points that are worth looking into, like being identified as being from a particular state by our rego plate. Some government depts accept our life choices, the AEC allows you to suspend your enrollment based on your continual movement you dont need to vote, Centerlink will allow you to claim rent assistance if you dont have a bricks and morter residence ( staying in your own van in a pay to stay facility is the same as renting a place), depending on which particular office or staff member you encounter you can be listed as "No Fixed Address".
Some insurance companies have policies that cater for the Grey Nomad or Itinerant worker.
We have had a thread here discussing postal address and registration etc while not actually living in the state full time, just think of the expense and inconvienence you would have deal with if you were changing everything every few months.
Possum
The article certainly does raise the important point that people like the rocket and strop were told to leave their campsite with only a few hours notice. Thankfully rocket and strop had each other and as difficult as it all was, found somewhere to live. I've also read other people's experiences on being solo and literally wondering if they could find somewhere to park near a town that would allow them to go into town to buy food. This type of reaction to people living in their caravan/motorhome by councils/state governments will surely have to be addressed in the future as the virus shows no sign of ending anytime soon and not many of us have the ability or wish to park somewhere remote for weeks on end.
Perhaps contacting news.com.au reporters Janine Williamson, Simone Faulkner and Najmeh Hassanli and pointing out where their reporting has gone wrong might be an idea. All the best everyone.
Sorry for your losses Blaze and Meredith I know how it feels to lose someone when you are unable to be there, I was stuck in Oman and unable to get home when my father passed a couple of years ago and it was a very sad time. For those like Tony currently stuck in Melbourne trying to deal with the stresses involved with being on the frontline I can think of nothing worse I hope that you guys are able to get through this OK.
I was talking to mate yesterday about the possibility of having to re enter lockdown in NSW if this current outbreak is not able to be controlled in Sydney. They own a house in Newcastle and have a rental property on the mid north coast which they will often use themselves. He said that when NSW went into lockdown the first time they were actually staying at their house in Harrington when the police came around to check on rental properties. He told them that he was actually the owner, they asked for his licence and as his address was their house in Newcastle the police told them they had to leave town and return home.
BB