I tried a search but nothing since 2015. I need 4 new tyres for my Mazda BT50 towing an off road caravan. Looking at All Terrains. Any recommendations? I was told Yokohama were quiet but didnt do much distance wise, recently told BF Goodrich aren't as good as they used to be, so I am now not sure what to try.
Whenarewethere said
08:54 AM Aug 25, 2020
Tyres will get noisier as they age as the sipes get shallower.
I have Pirelli AT plus, can't complain, but they are slowly getting noisier.
I have absolutely stuffed the car full of acoustic insulation & that has made a vast improvement in reduction of noise even though the car was already a pretty quite car.
IMO BFG A/T. They sit flat on the road, I get 80,000km from a set. I will also put them on our van, as the next replacements. I currently use them on our 200 series GX.
Grey
yobarr said
09:01 AM Aug 25, 2020
gandk wrote:
Hi
I tried a search but nothing since 2015. I need 4 new tyres for my Mazda BT50 towing an off road caravan. Looking at All Terrains. Any recommendations? I was told Yokohama were quiet but didnt do much distance wise, recently told BF Goodrich aren't as good as they used to be, so I am now not sure what to try.
My experience is that BFGs are not as good as they once were,and seemed to wear quickly,so I now run Mickey Thompsons.However,during my research,I found only good reports on Toyo Open Country....and they look the part! Tried Bridgestone 697s too,and Hankook seem OK too? No experience with Yokohamas though.Cheers
Whenarewethere said
09:08 AM Aug 25, 2020
Recently I was in the car doing some additions. While at it added a bit more insulation. I just try to put it anywhere I can. It's probably become more of an interest to prove a point just how much one can quieten a car. It works & the quality of driving is worthwhile.
It's not that expensive & if you have the time just get in there & do it. It will keep you occupied under the current Covid situation & while at it you can clean all the dust out from behind the trim panels.
If I buy another car it will be the first thing I will do before any other modifications.
vince56 said
09:36 AM Aug 25, 2020
I can vouch for Yokohama, had two sets, quiet and long wearing 80k+, usually a bit dearer than others but a very good tyre.
valiant81 said
10:13 AM Aug 25, 2020
Hi all; Not long after i bought my Pajero (2009) i upgraded from 15" wheels to 16"Sunraysia rims and had them shod with Cooper AT3's 245R70/16. Only now have they been replaced. Not cheap at $300.00 per tire, but with just over 100,000 Kms on them and not one problem with them!. The Pajero is mainly used to pull our caravan around and when we lived on the mainland has done a couple of trips up north ( Alice Springs, Kings Canyon and Ayers Rock one year and Darwin, Kakadu a couple of years later ) 5 Trips from the mainland and over to Tasmania ( we now live in Tassie ). Melbourne a few times as well as Adelaide for the caravan and camping show.
I do look after my tires, re the pressure and also have them rotated, The tires wore very well and after 11 years were still Just roadworthy.
RichardK said
11:10 AM Aug 25, 2020
We are on to our 4th set of BFG A/T's on the D3, get 100k out of them only had two failures due to a nail picked up at the sons property and a sidewall rip courtesy of a mass of dead branches in inhospitable country.
Yes they do get noisier as they wear down but I suspect all tyres do.
Would I get another set, yes but current set has only done around 3k's so we have plenty of tripping ahead.
Cheers
RichardK
Radar said
11:20 AM Aug 25, 2020
Michelin LTX Force. Tyres.
I now become a fan. 10000 only but on dirt mixed damp red clay on forestry roads sensational, I just love a bit of good forest road.
Bicyclecamper said
11:51 AM Aug 25, 2020
Toyo AT's, is the only way to go, mine are the Japanese version, have done 70000k's and Are less then half warn. If you buy them get the Japanese version, as the Chinese version will only give you 50000k's if that, The ones I bought have an one more ply extra then the Coopers. You will see at least 130000 k's out of them.
garyt said
01:45 PM Aug 25, 2020
Falken Wildpeak. Have had most of the others and by far the best l have had IMHO. Last set did just on 100,000 towing a 3.5t off-road Lotus. Quite a bit cheaper than a lot of opposition - particularly BFG.
Gundog said
03:42 PM Aug 25, 2020
Old and Grey wrote:
Hi gandk,
IMO BFG A/T. They sit flat on the road, I get 80,000km from a set. I will also put them on our van, as the next replacements. I currently use them on our 200 series GX.
Grey
O&G
Forget the A/T for the van there is no reason to use them other than greater rolling resistance which equals higher fuel consumption.
A good set of light truck tyres for the van is a better choice, Toyo H08 will go out of date before they wear out.
Dougwe said
04:48 PM Aug 25, 2020
G'day gandk,
I had BFG A/T on a Prado many moons ago and long before CV19 was even thought off and very happy. I then got the Collie in 2014 and had Cooper A/T3's fitted from new because a few mates had them and were very happy. I wasn't a happy camper really as they seemed to slip in the damp and on gravel roads but did get over 150,000km out of them. About 14 months ago I had Bridgestone A/T fitted and so far a happy camper.
That all said I never had a puncture or slow leak with the BFG or Cooper, not one. BUT, just last week had a slow leak in the rear right so when checked it had picked up a screw from somewhere.
I might go back to BFG's when the time comes again and if the Collie doesn't get CV19. Or me for that matter.
Keep Safe out there.
2trout said
05:46 PM Aug 25, 2020
There are many good brands on the market as you can see from the comments. I put a set of BF Goodrich on my Ford Ranger about 1 year ago. They have done 40000 km and are showing little wear. They are also very quiet and as far as fuel economy goes, I get exactly the same as the on road tyres that came with the vehicle. I should point out that BFG make a couple of All Terrain tyres. I spent a little more and got the more expensive ones. Good luck. Let us know what you finally decide.
yobarr said
06:54 PM Aug 25, 2020
Gundog wrote:
Old and Grey wrote:
Hi gandk,
IMO BFG A/T. They sit flat on the road, I get 80,000km from a set. I will also put them on our van, as the next replacements. I currently use them on our 200 series GX.
Grey
O&G
Forget the A/T for the van there is no reason to use them other than greater rolling resistance which equals higher fuel consumption.
A good set of light truck tyres for the van is a better choice, Toyo H08 will go out of date before they wear out.
Hi Graham...your comments no doubt have merit,but I run the same AT tyres on my van as I do on my car.I now have 10 wheels and tyres,all the same,so no problem with mismatched stud patterns and rim sizes.....any wheel can go anywhere on the car or the van. Do it once,do it well! Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Tuesday 25th of August 2020 07:40:27 PM
Mike Harding said
07:15 AM Aug 26, 2020
I had good results from Maxxis:
https://maxxistyres.com.au
I did some serious off-road stuff in the Vic High Country with their more aggressive AT tyre.
Kebbin said
09:31 AM Aug 26, 2020
What are the qualities your after as most tyres that last forever are pretty crap in wet slippery conditions, a good all round tyre won't last as long but they are priceless when stopping in the wet.
keiron said
11:09 AM Aug 26, 2020
I am running COOPER DISCOVERER HT3 on my Nissan Patrol. They were fitted 4 years ago, have done over 80,000 klms, and still have more than 8mm depth of tread remaining. I tow a 21' Jayco Starcraft and have been thru Outback Sth West Qld, Flinders Ranges, Mungo Nat Park, Broken Hill and much of western NSW. They have been super reliable, quiet "sure-footed". They were very affordable (when I fitted them) compared to some alternatives. With over 80,000 k's and expecting at least another 40-50,000 I would buy nothing but Cooper's. My opinion and experience only.
Hetho said
11:43 AM Aug 26, 2020
Ditto Kebbin.
yobarr said
12:42 PM Aug 26, 2020
Kebbin wrote:
What are the qualities your after as most tyres that last forever are pretty crap in wet slippery conditions, a good all round tyre won't last as long but they are priceless when stopping in the wet.
Absolutely! In this world get what you pay for! "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten." Reminds me of the time I bought a high performance car for an ex,but I never could make her understand the false economy in fuelling it with low-grade petrol. "But it's 5 cents/litre cheaper" she'd say. For the sake of peace in the camp,eventually I gave up! "Happy wife,happy life" I have read somewhere? Cheers
gandk said
12:50 PM Aug 26, 2020
To all
Sorry been off the air. Thank you all so much. It has been helpful. I also have been told I dont need to put A/Ts on the van and as they are a different size to the BT50 no point in having the same.
Probably in the long run it will come down to between the few mentioned a couple of times above and if there are any deals going eg: 4 for 3 etc.
Cheers will let you know.
gandk said
12:59 PM Aug 26, 2020
Being a mere female I humble myself to ask what and where is the insulation you use under your carpet in your vehicle?
Aus-Kiwi said
10:25 PM Aug 27, 2020
Under seats etc . Often best done when seats etc is out . On metal
Mike Harding said
07:41 AM Aug 28, 2020
yobarr wrote:Absolutely! In this world get what you pay for!
Unless it's a Honda generator.
Aus-Kiwi said
09:48 AM Aug 28, 2020
Dont be too put off by tyre wear as long as they have grip ! I would rather have better grip
Than hard tyres , little traction ! Plus tyres should only be used to 4-5 years . Mine are about twice that !! The noise from tyres is mainly due to tread design . The constitution of rubber gets harder with age . So they tend to loose traction and a little noisier ? So enjoy the tyres for the first 4 or so years ! They are unfortunately a consumable item !!
fwdoz said
09:55 AM Aug 28, 2020
I am running Toyo AT Open Country on my Prado. Reported to get 80K out of them. They are a nice tyre in all conditions & look pretty good on the vehicle as well.
Aus-Kiwi said
12:32 PM Aug 28, 2020
Keep in mind the what and where your driving ? If most is on black stuff ? A good road tread would be favourable to most . Unless your going serious off toad in mud ? Ive driven in national park tracks in NSW in 2WD Isuzu never had issues . But happier to have 4WD . Tyres I used was Bridgestone All rounder I think ?
gandk said
01:58 PM Aug 28, 2020
AGAIN thank you all. Have taken all this in. And are now a little wiser. I hope. Cheers
Hylife said
09:06 PM Sep 2, 2020
Yokohama Geolander GO15 AT
Great milage.
Fitted to my Fortuner at 28K now 96K, about 2mm left so need replacing after 58,000km.
45K was towing, including the Gibb R Rd, Birdsville Tk, Old Savannah Way from Roper to Normanton via Limmen Nat'l Pk, Cape York to the tip, WA half lap, towing 2.8T van.
Quiet and good grip.
Getting ready to buy another set of the same as soon as lockdown is over and borders are open again.
Gumpo said
07:23 PM Sep 9, 2020
Just put a set of Toyo AT Open Country tyres on my cruiser this afternoon Mate. Always been a BFG man but have heard a few reports . Could be propaganda?? So trying the Japanese Toyos Have heard some favourable comments there way . I usually run 175s but went 185s this time . Sat the vehicle up nicely. Not cheap @ $350 each . But thats regional prices.
I got 65k out of the BFGs but they done some hard miles . Hope this helps cheers
Hi
I tried a search but nothing since 2015. I need 4 new tyres for my Mazda BT50 towing an off road caravan. Looking at All Terrains. Any recommendations? I was told Yokohama were quiet but didnt do much distance wise, recently told BF Goodrich aren't as good as they used to be, so I am now not sure what to try.
Tyres will get noisier as they age as the sipes get shallower.
I have Pirelli AT plus, can't complain, but they are slowly getting noisier.
I have absolutely stuffed the car full of acoustic insulation & that has made a vast improvement in reduction of noise even though the car was already a pretty quite car.
https://thegreynomads.activeboard.com/t65443581/car-acoustic-insulation/
Hi gandk,
IMO BFG A/T. They sit flat on the road, I get 80,000km from a set. I will also put them on our van, as the next replacements. I currently use them on our 200 series GX.
Grey
My experience is that BFGs are not as good as they once were,and seemed to wear quickly,so I now run Mickey Thompsons.However,during my research,I found only good reports on Toyo Open Country....and they look the part! Tried Bridgestone 697s too,and Hankook seem OK too? No experience with Yokohamas though.Cheers
Recently I was in the car doing some additions. While at it added a bit more insulation. I just try to put it anywhere I can. It's probably become more of an interest to prove a point just how much one can quieten a car. It works & the quality of driving is worthwhile.
It's not that expensive & if you have the time just get in there & do it. It will keep you occupied under the current Covid situation & while at it you can clean all the dust out from behind the trim panels.
If I buy another car it will be the first thing I will do before any other modifications.
Hi all; Not long after i bought my Pajero (2009) i upgraded from 15" wheels to 16"Sunraysia rims and had them shod with Cooper AT3's 245R70/16. Only now have they been replaced. Not cheap at $300.00 per tire, but with just over 100,000 Kms on them and not one problem with them!. The Pajero is mainly used to pull our caravan around and when we lived on the mainland has done a couple of trips up north ( Alice Springs, Kings Canyon and Ayers Rock one year and Darwin, Kakadu a couple of years later ) 5 Trips from the mainland and over to Tasmania ( we now live in Tassie ). Melbourne a few times as well as Adelaide for the caravan and camping show.
I do look after my tires, re the pressure and also have them rotated, The tires wore very well and after 11 years were still Just roadworthy.
We are on to our 4th set of BFG A/T's on the D3, get 100k out of them only had two failures due to a nail picked up at the sons property and a sidewall rip courtesy of a mass of dead branches in inhospitable country.
Yes they do get noisier as they wear down but I suspect all tyres do.
Would I get another set, yes but current set has only done around 3k's so we have plenty of tripping ahead.
Cheers
RichardK
Michelin LTX Force. Tyres.
I now become a fan. 10000 only but on dirt mixed damp red clay on forestry roads sensational, I just love a bit of good forest road.
O&G
Forget the A/T for the van there is no reason to use them other than greater rolling resistance which equals higher fuel consumption.
A good set of light truck tyres for the van is a better choice, Toyo H08 will go out of date before they wear out.
I had BFG A/T on a Prado many moons ago and long before CV19 was even thought off and very happy. I then got the Collie in 2014 and had Cooper A/T3's fitted from new because a few mates had them and were very happy. I wasn't a happy camper really as they seemed to slip in the damp and on gravel roads but did get over 150,000km out of them. About 14 months ago I had Bridgestone A/T fitted and so far a happy camper.
That all said I never had a puncture or slow leak with the BFG or Cooper, not one. BUT, just last week had a slow leak in the rear right so when checked it had picked up a screw from somewhere.
I might go back to BFG's when the time comes again and if the Collie doesn't get CV19. Or me for that matter.
Keep Safe out there.
Hi Graham...your comments no doubt have merit,but I run the same AT tyres on my van as I do on my car.I now have 10 wheels and tyres,all the same,so no problem with mismatched stud patterns and rim sizes.....any wheel can go anywhere on the car or the van. Do it once,do it well! Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Tuesday 25th of August 2020 07:40:27 PM
I had good results from Maxxis:
https://maxxistyres.com.au
I did some serious off-road stuff in the Vic High Country with their more aggressive AT tyre.
I am running COOPER DISCOVERER HT3 on my Nissan Patrol. They were fitted 4 years ago, have done over 80,000 klms, and still have more than 8mm depth of tread remaining. I tow a 21' Jayco Starcraft and have been thru Outback Sth West Qld, Flinders Ranges, Mungo Nat Park, Broken Hill and much of western NSW. They have been super reliable, quiet "sure-footed". They were very affordable (when I fitted them) compared to some alternatives. With over 80,000 k's and expecting at least another 40-50,000 I would buy nothing but Cooper's. My opinion and experience only.
Ditto Kebbin.
Absolutely! In this world get what you pay for! "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten." Reminds me of the time I bought a high performance car for an ex,but I never could make her understand the false economy in fuelling it with low-grade petrol. "But it's 5 cents/litre cheaper" she'd say. For the sake of peace in the camp,eventually I gave up! "Happy wife,happy life" I have read somewhere? Cheers
Sorry been off the air. Thank you all so much. It has been helpful. I also have been told I dont need to put A/Ts on the van and as they are a different size to the BT50 no point in having the same.
Probably in the long run it will come down to between the few mentioned a couple of times above and if there are any deals going eg: 4 for 3 etc.
Cheers will let you know.
Being a mere female I humble myself to ask what and where is the insulation you use under your carpet in your vehicle?
Unless it's a Honda generator.
Than hard tyres , little traction ! Plus tyres should only be used to 4-5 years . Mine are about twice that !! The noise from tyres is mainly due to tread design . The constitution of rubber gets harder with age . So they tend to loose traction and a little noisier ? So enjoy the tyres for the first 4 or so years ! They are unfortunately a consumable item !!
Yokohama Geolander GO15 AT
Great milage.
Fitted to my Fortuner at 28K now 96K, about 2mm left so need replacing after 58,000km.
45K was towing, including the Gibb R Rd, Birdsville Tk, Old Savannah Way from Roper to Normanton via Limmen Nat'l Pk, Cape York to the tip, WA half lap, towing 2.8T van.
Quiet and good grip.
Getting ready to buy another set of the same as soon as lockdown is over and borders are open again.
I got 65k out of the BFGs but they done some hard miles . Hope this helps cheers