hi, am thinking of changing to pegs that you use a hammer drill to put in. Anyone have an opinion on this type of peg. They need to hold down an annexe in strong WA winds.
Whenarewethere said
06:29 PM Sep 3, 2020
You can get about a tonne upward pressure with a single carport, that why they are bolted down to a concrete slab.
Granty said
06:29 PM Sep 3, 2020
I wouldnt leave the annex out in heavy winds regardless of what pegs I was using.
Dougwe said
06:58 PM Sep 3, 2020
G'day Harry,
I successfully use 200mm landscape screws, with just a cordless drill.
I gave a box of those screw in Aldi pegs away to other campers. My experience so far is that the standard steel peg driven in, and then another at 90 degrees crossed over it, will do most situations. The screw in pegs will typically make a plug of earth in the threads and then just pull out. There are so many different earth types, that you would need an array of different pegs/screws for all the different situations, or just do as I do and carry some long steel pegs.
Old and Grey said
09:01 PM Sep 3, 2020
Hi HarryG,
IMO 200mm Hex coach bolts and one 18V Ryobi rattle gun. I use 3 X coach bolts for our Sat dish as well. Still as above I would not leave the awning out in any wind if you want to keep it long term.
We use same rattle gun to deploy our vans 4 x legs. makes life just that bit easier.
Old & Grey
-- Edited by Old and Grey on Thursday 3rd of September 2020 09:02:11 PM
dabbler said
09:03 PM Sep 3, 2020
I use the Aldi type but from Bunnings (brand is Whites). I also have heavier hex head coach screws but never bothered using them, they worked out more expensive too. A cordless drill is enough in most cases. Never had an issue except in damp soil and really stony soil. They take a lot of effort to pull out by hand. Well worth grabbing them in my book.
Whenarewethere said
09:14 PM Sep 3, 2020
iana wrote:
My experience so far is that the standard steel peg driven in, and then another at 90 degrees crossed over it, will do most situations. ............There are so many different earth types, that you would need an array of different pegs/screws for all the different situations, or just do as I do and carry some long steel pegs.
We carry a range of pegs for different ground & if it is sandy cross 2 or 3 pegs or even add additional guy ropes.
STRETCH ARMSTRONG said
02:23 AM Sep 4, 2020
In hard clay those hex bolts are great, l use my makita tech drill to drive them in. Ask Doug he borrowed mine to drive his in at Girgarre one new year, the grey clay was like concrete. In sand l rekon they are useless so carry a set of sand pegs.
Tony LEE said
07:13 AM Sep 4, 2020
"We use same rattle gun to deploy our vans 4 x legs.smile makes life just that bit easier"
And noisier.!
littledick said
08:04 AM Sep 4, 2020
-- Edited by littledick on Friday 4th of September 2020 08:06:17 AM
I wouldn''t leave the annex out in heavy winds regardless of what pegs I was using.
Absolutely spot on. We have had one full awning replaced due to leaving it up in heavy winds.
And I also concur with the following
Jay&Dee
iana wrote:
My experience so far is that the standard steel peg driven in, and then another at 90 degrees crossed over it, will do most situations. ............There are so many different earth types, that you would need an array of different pegs/screws for all the different situations, or just do as I do and carry some long steel pegs.
The best I have used are 500mm star pickets
cheers
blaze
iana said
01:24 PM Sep 5, 2020
I would tend to agree blaze, except for the weight. At the end of the day (storm), if the pegs let go, the ropes etc. are useless.
blaze said
04:09 PM Sep 5, 2020
iana wrote:
I would tend to agree blaze, except for the weight. At the end of the day (storm), if the pegs let go, the ropes etc. are useless.
only need 2 and maybe a couple of normal pegs in between
cheers
blaze
Dougwe said
04:32 PM Sep 5, 2020
STRETCH ARMSTRONG wrote:
In hard clay those hex bolts are great, l use my makita tech drill to drive them in. Ask Doug he borrowed mine to drive his in at Girgarre one new year, the grey clay was like concrete. In sand l rekon they are useless so carry a set of sand pegs.
I do remember that mate. When iso is done and dusted a little more and I feel safe to go to the Big Green Shed again I will be replacing my old cordless drill of many moons and was thinking to go the one you had so thanks for reminding me what flavor it is.
Keep Safe out there.
Dougwe said
04:38 PM Sep 5, 2020
blaze wrote:
The best I have used are 500mm star pickets cheers blaze
Hi Blaze, I too have three of the 500mm star pickets for sandy or similar ground. I have three in a garden next to me as we speak as very soft indeed. They have a great grip. The other straps, one each end are the screws though as are the ground is harder. The shade screens are screws as well. I have two guy straps each end of the awning and one in middle, in this location. Sometimes three each end, depending on location.
Keep Safe out there.
Tony Bev said
05:00 PM Sep 5, 2020
I use the coach bolts, and a 18 volt cordless hammer drill
I have a chain link, on the end of a spring
The coach bolt goes through the chain link, and the tie downs, are attached to the other end of the spring
One reason for this setup, is that it is easier on my back, to use the cordless hammer drill, than using the hand hammer, on normal stakes
Especially when removing the normal stakes
RDWRER said
05:35 PM Sep 12, 2020
Thank you for this topic.
Got to my local Aldi's and got the last packet of 'screw tent pegs' in the store that Daryl620 said about. The Aldi's pegs come with the Hex fitting for the Drill, Bonus!
-- Edited by RDWRER on Saturday 12th of September 2020 05:53:11 PM
Sailfish said
12:22 PM Sep 13, 2020
What do you want to fail 1st, the peg pull out of the ground, or the awing eyelet rip the gusset out out of the awning?
If a plain peg leavers out of the ground a screw peg will not avail much because the failure is the ground, not the peg. Longer pegs result in bent pegs that pull out as well, guess how I know.
If the ground is soft, the best answer is what wilderness backpackers do, bury something substantial in the ground (sand or snow) and connect the guy to make a straight pull from the middle of that anchor.
You can just bury a length of fallen timber or you can bury sand or snow stakes or DIY them from say 90 mm poly pipe etc by splitting lengthwise. The trick is the attachment must be in the center of the anchor so they don't simply leaver out of the ground. It's the same principle as burying a spare wheel as a winch point to pull a vehicle out of a deep bog.
-- Edited by Sailfish on Sunday 13th of September 2020 01:49:28 PM
iana said
09:06 AM Sep 14, 2020
Sailfish, what you say is so true. I have put up a thread many moons ago, about how can you tie down a caravan if caught in a very bad wind storm. I have researched, and surfed the net about this, and read about anchors like you have described, they are available, but heavy and expensive. The whole securing thing is dependent on the weakest link.
Tony Bev said
11:45 AM Sep 14, 2020
I was in Aldi yesterday (Sunday), the coach bolts had all gone, but looking at the pegs that were left, they only seemed to be about 150 mm long
I tried some 150 mm ones from Bunnings and thought that they were not long enough
My 10 mm dia, coach bolts are 200 & 250 mm long, I got them from EBay
I also carry a 10 mm masonry drill, for when I am on a hard stand, to drill through the 75 mm of packed ground
hi, am thinking of changing to pegs that you use a hammer drill to put in. Anyone have an opinion on this type of peg. They need to hold down an annexe in strong WA winds.
You can get about a tonne upward pressure with a single carport, that why they are bolted down to a concrete slab.
I wouldnt leave the annex out in heavy winds regardless of what pegs I was using.
I successfully use 200mm landscape screws, with just a cordless drill.
Keep Safe out there.
Check out Aldi 12 Sep.
https://www.aldi.com.au/en/special-buys/special-buys-sat-12-september/saturday-detail-wk37/ps/p/tent-pegs-or-camp-rope-40m/
I knocked up some 12 x 500mm aluminium pegs with stainless ends & hook.
Hi HarryG,
IMO 200mm Hex coach bolts and one 18V Ryobi rattle gun. I use 3 X coach bolts for our Sat dish as well. Still as above I would not leave the awning out in any wind if you want to keep it long term.
We use same rattle gun to deploy our vans 4 x legs.
makes life just that bit easier.
Old & Grey
-- Edited by Old and Grey on Thursday 3rd of September 2020 09:02:11 PM
We carry a range of pegs for different ground & if it is sandy cross 2 or 3 pegs or even add additional guy ropes.
-- Edited by littledick on Friday 4th of September 2020 08:06:17 AM
cheers
blaze
only need 2 and maybe a couple of normal pegs in between
cheers
blaze
I do remember that mate. When iso is done and dusted a little more and I feel safe to go to the Big Green Shed again I will be replacing my old cordless drill of many moons and was thinking to go the one you had so thanks for reminding me what flavor it is.
Keep Safe out there.
Hi Blaze, I too have three of the 500mm star pickets for sandy or similar ground. I have three in a garden next to me as we speak as very soft indeed. They have a great grip. The other straps, one each end are the screws though as are the ground is harder. The shade screens are screws as well. I have two guy straps each end of the awning and one in middle, in this location. Sometimes three each end, depending on location.
Keep Safe out there.
I have a chain link, on the end of a spring
The coach bolt goes through the chain link, and the tie downs, are attached to the other end of the spring
One reason for this setup, is that it is easier on my back, to use the cordless hammer drill, than using the hand hammer, on normal stakes
Especially when removing the normal stakes
Thank you for this topic.
Got to my local Aldi's and got the last packet of 'screw tent pegs' in the store that Daryl620 said about.
The Aldi's pegs come with the Hex fitting for the Drill, Bonus!
I was planing to 3d print some myself, Just had not got to Bunnings to buy the coach colts.
www.thingiverse.com/thing:2642470
Another item off my list of should do's
-- Edited by RDWRER on Saturday 12th of September 2020 05:53:11 PM
What do you want to fail 1st, the peg pull out of the ground, or the awing eyelet rip the gusset out out of the awning?
If a plain peg leavers out of the ground a screw peg will not avail much because the failure is the ground, not the peg.
Longer pegs result in bent pegs that pull out as well, guess how I know.
If the ground is soft, the best answer is what wilderness backpackers do, bury something substantial in the ground (sand or snow) and connect the guy to make a straight pull from the middle of that anchor.
You can just bury a length of fallen timber or you can bury sand or snow stakes or DIY them from say 90 mm poly pipe etc by splitting lengthwise. The trick is the attachment must be in the center of the anchor so they don't simply leaver out of the ground. It's the same principle as burying a spare wheel as a winch point to pull a vehicle out of a deep bog.
-- Edited by Sailfish on Sunday 13th of September 2020 01:49:28 PM
I tried some 150 mm ones from Bunnings and thought that they were not long enough
My 10 mm dia, coach bolts are 200 & 250 mm long, I got them from EBay
I also carry a 10 mm masonry drill, for when I am on a hard stand, to drill through the 75 mm of packed ground