WE are decluttering the Castle, so we can finnish the painting.
Trying to off load goods to those who want a good read, watch a VCR video. etc.
No takers so far.
We have tried St Vincent Depaul They took all the DVD's. Back issues of fishing magazines 4 x4 magazines no one will take. Tried the libraries.
We have the likes of Notting Hill movies on VCR etc. Not a taker.
It seems to us, that EVERYTHING these days is a throw away socitey.
If you want a movie, Magazine or more,just send us a PM. We are in Sydney.
We were told over and over just recycle the lot.
Old & Grey
PS: No you can't have the Van nor the Tug.
-- Edited by Old and Grey on Wednesday 21st of October 2020 03:22:42 PM
Dougwe said
04:13 PM Oct 21, 2020
Know the feeling well Old and Grey, many moons ago when I was sorting out the big clearance of base camp to go full time in the playground in my aluminium teepee I tried the places you mentioned but like you, no luck. In the end I cracked it and bagged it all up and took to tip. I thought if no one outside wanted anything bugga those at the tip.
If my late wife saw what I chucked I would be getting haunted daily and more than likely nightly as well.
STREWTH! What was that?
I only had a week to get out and no time for garage sales etc. The lady that purchased the unit bought the furniture as well.
No regrets by me and I tell you that for free.
Keep Safe on the roads and out there.
Whenarewethere said
04:55 PM Oct 21, 2020
I just chuck old stuff in the bin now. Given up wasting my time trying to give stuff away, it doesn't work.
If having trouble chucking stuff out, try one piece at a time.
Or what works well for me, break it. Then it's broken so you have to chuck it out!
If you snap CD/DVDs put them in a bag & then break them, so bits don't fly everywhere.
Cupie said
05:13 PM Oct 21, 2020
Are you telling me that my VHS recordings of Qld State of Origin wins going back to the Wally Lewis days are worthless!!!
I used to watch them in the weeks before the SOO games just to get me in the mood. Not so much the last couple of years.
To make it worse, the more recent recordings on HDD will only play on the particular LG Smart TV set that I currently have. Not even on another LG set!! Bloody USA laws!
hufnpuf said
08:18 PM Oct 21, 2020
I've got lots of VHS movies, it must have cost the person I got them off an absolute fortune to buy and now they are worthless. Good titles, but everyone seems to have gone digital, they don't want VHS (although for some old Hollywood movie, digital isn't going to be any better). There's one op-shop near me who will take them (well, they did, last time I moved some out) but most won't take them.
We have a "shop" at our rubbish tip where they sell stuff that people leave at the tip. It used to be run by a company/people who pretty much recycled everything and you could pick up bits and bobs for next to nothing. Lots in, lots out. Now it's run by a charity, they'll only take a small amount and they put top dollar prices on everything. I don't bother going there any more.
I tried to give some empty cd cases to the tip shop and was told to dump them. They must be useful to somebody, they sell them at officeworks.
I used to be on a mailing list for "freecycle", that was quite good for people grabbing crap, but it bit the dust. Free giveaways on Gumtree can get results. People always take my empty plantpots that I put up. I get a bit cranky when you put up something free and get asked questions and asked to post photos and put time and effort into it. It's a thing, it's free, just take the blasted thing.
Someone somewhere would like your stuff, Old and Grey, but finding them is pretty much impossible these days. It's such a shame there's so much waste.
Warren-Pat_01 said
09:51 PM Oct 21, 2020
Chaps, it's not only the older stuff that is part of the current "Throw away society!"
I was stunned a couple of weeks ago when I left the Toowoomba Base Hospital, going by ambulance to a private hospital. They had (TBH) given me a set of crutches - untouched by me. Was told, "If you don't take them, we'll put them in the bin!"
This applies also items such as scissors (they are good quality) - all go into the bin - no sterilizing, etc. So does most of this stuff comes in cheap (from China)? Is this a reason why hospital costs are through the roof?
The younger generation has no need of history, even love letters shared by their grandparents, letters written during the wars - they have the internet & everything they need is there, available at the press of a button!!!!
dorian said
05:21 AM Oct 22, 2020
I was able to offload my Choice and National Geographic magazines via the local Freecycling group. Other magazines were gratefully received by local doctor's surgeries. Of course things will be different in these COVID times.
Books, DVDs and VCRs would normally be well received by nursing homes.
-- Edited by dorian on Thursday 22nd of October 2020 05:23:20 AM
Mike Harding said
07:25 AM Oct 22, 2020
Sadly, I had the same experience as you guys when I began the nomad thing, could not give much of my stuff away. The Salvation Army wouldn't take a heap of my furniture because it was not in near perfect condition - it looked fine to me. "People won't buy it - even those shopping with DHSS vouchers" - this society may be too wealthy for its own good in the longer term.
Warren-Pat_01 wrote:
The younger generation has no need of history, even love letters shared by their grandparents, letters written during the wars - they have the internet & everything they need is there, available at the press of a button!!!!
And that Warren is a real tragedy. They will never see photographs of long dead family members in "funny" cloths and gain a sense of their own history. Never know the love and sadness their Dad felt for their Mum when he wrote from a trench in Flanders or the like.
A few years back I bought a copy Dr Spock's book "Baby and Childcare" to give to some prospective new parents I know. For 50 years millions of children were raised with this book in one hand and the baby in the other, including mine. Eventually I chose not to give it to the new parents as they had made clear all the parenting advice they needed was available from the internet. No longer will mum teach daughter how to breast feed and change a nappy - "MumsNet" can now do all of that. Brave New World eh? I don't think so.
The Belmont Bear said
08:15 AM Oct 22, 2020
We had many years of our lives and travels recorded on 8mm video which became obsolete with the introduction of digital technology. A couple of years ago we went to a business who did a great job transferring everything onto DVDs for us. Over the years our vinyl music has had to be replaced with CDs, 8 track cartridges with cassettes then CDs, flash drives, bluetooth and Apple car play, VHS videos with DVDs the list goes on and will continue to do so as it is worth billions for the manufacturers of the technology. Nowadays most things can be found on the internet and can be downloaded cheaper than what it costs to buy a hard copy in whatever format. Unfortunately things that have been recorded using older technologies are only valuable to those who still have the means to play them. In our travels we reguarly drop into small town flea markets and there will always be someone trying to sell their much loved collections of vinyl albums, cassettes, VHS cartridges etc. but sadly unless you are a collector (or maybe a museum curator) they really don't have much more than a nostalgic value for the owner..
BB
dorian said
08:34 AM Oct 22, 2020
Vinyl albums are in great demand by audiophools. I was surprised at how much my collection was worth.
Any book worth reading can probably be purchased as an e-book. In fact Dr Spock's e-book is available for $12 at Amazon. I can foresee a time when the only remaining use for paper will be to blow your nose or wipe your backside.
BTW, I dumped a 24 volume set of Encyclopedia Britannica, plus several yearbooks, in the recycling bin. Nobody wanted them, not even the library, and I don't blame them.
hufnpuf said
09:03 AM Oct 22, 2020
dorian wrote:
Books, DVDs and VCRs would normally be well received by nursing homes.
The problem with books and VCRs (moreso than DVDs) is the storage space they take up. Although somebody might theoretically want to watch or read something, they need somewhere to put it.
I bought an e-reader years ago, but I don't like it, I've never really used it. You only get a tiny piece to read before you have to press to get more. With a proper book, you get 2 pages before you have to turn the page. I don't want to read sitting up and staring at a screen, either.
DVDs are pretty much obsolete now, they've been overtaken by online access/streaming. They also aren't all they were said to be when they came in. If they get damaged, they won't play. They don't last either, the coating degrades and they become useless. It isn't just the older technologies where you need old technology to use them. Hard drives don't last and the devices to access their data keep changing. Storage "in the cloud" isn't secure, online streaming will only be available as long as it's made available by those who are making it availabe. Somebody else can wipe out access to the data in an instant, just shut it down and you have nothing. There's a project to archive computer software so that it's not gone forever when the technology moves on.
Hard copy material you keep safe at home will still be there when you want it, as long as your house doesn't burn down. The longevity of a book is longer than that of an 8-track cartridge....
sigh.
The Belmont Bear said
09:12 AM Oct 22, 2020
Mike Harding wrote:
Sadly, I had the same experience as you guys when I began the nomad thing, could not give much of my stuff away. The Salvation Army wouldn't take a heap of my furniture because it was not in near perfect condition - it looked fine to me. "People won't buy it - even those shopping with DHSS vouchers" - this society may be too wealthy for its own good in the longer term.
Warren-Pat_01 wrote:
The younger generation has no need of history, even love letters shared by their grandparents, letters written during the wars - they have the internet & everything they need is there, available at the press of a button!!!!
And that Warren is a real tragedy. They will never see photographs of long dead family members in "funny" cloths and gain a sense of their own history. Never know the love and sadness their Dad felt for their Mum when he wrote from a trench in Flanders or the like.
A few years back I bought a copy Dr Spock's book "Baby and Childcare" to give to some prospective new parents I know. For 50 years millions of children were raised with this book in one hand and the baby in the other, including mine. Eventually I chose not to give it to the new parents as they had made clear all the parenting advice they needed was available from the internet. No longer will mum teach daughter how to breast feed and change a nappy - "MumsNet" can now do all of that. Brave New World eh? I don't think so.
So if you store what you have digitally now young people in the future will see the photographs, letters etc. why do you need to have a hard copy that will deteriorate over time anyhow ? My brother did this with our old family history photos that date back as far as 1900 (unfortunately due to the deterioration the quality is only as good as the original). The other plus is that you no longer produce the plastic, the paper, the landfill etc. when you download music etc. I now have most of my collection on thumb drives which I plug into the USB socket and play through the cars sound system, with bluetooth I can also play whatever I have on my other apple devices, if the technology becomes obsolete down the track I guess that it isn't going to take up too much in landfill.
Mike Harding wrote: "A few years back I bought a copy Dr Spock's book "Baby and Childcare" to give to some prospective new parents I know. For 50 years millions of children were raised with this book in one hand and the baby in the other, including mine. Eventually I chose not to give it to the new parents as they had made clear all the parenting advice they needed was available from the internet. No longer will mum teach daughter how to breast feed and change a nappy - "MumsNet" can now do all of that. Brave New World eh? I don't think so." ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
I have been fairly close to my niece and her children. I never knew we did so many things wrong with our children. I would be too scared to take responsibility for her children I'm sure I would do something verboten. My sister often gets admonished by her daughter.
I was so glad to hand my kids over to my mother and pleased to follow her advice. BTW they both turned out pretty dammed nice people, so, saying "No because I said so" rather than trying to appease and distract them them works I think.
dorian said
09:51 AM Oct 22, 2020
Flash based media are not reliable enough for long term storage.
Whenarewethere said
10:08 AM Oct 22, 2020
dorian wrote:
Flash based media are not reliable enough for long term storage.
There was a program on ABC recently. Long term archiving is been stored on silver based film, not only photos, but computer code for operating systems, programs & files. Back to tried & tested technology!
If you use a flash drive make at least 3 copies & copy them onto new flash drives every 2 years, & don't forget tag & date each copy.
hufnpuf said
10:12 AM Oct 22, 2020
The Belmont Bear wrote:
So if you store what you have digitally now young people in the future will see the photographs, letters etc. why do you need to have a hard copy that will deteriorate over time anyhow ?
What dorian said.
Aside from the media failing/unable to be accessed (hardware failure or hardware becoming obsolete/unavailable), there's what's called "bit rot". What's on a printed paper page will just sit there as long as it doesn't get wet or eaten by bugs. Not necessarily so with digital media. It deteriorates over time, and a shorter time than a book will last for.
Possum3 said
11:10 AM Oct 22, 2020
hufnpuf wrote:
What's on a printed paper page will just sit there as long as it doesn't get wet or eaten by bugs. Not necessarily so with digital media. It deteriorates over time, and a shorter time than a book will last for.
Too true, I have a couple of books printed in late 1700's.
One the "History of Coventry" has details of the churches/cathedrals prior to being destroyed, including the story written in real time of Lady Godiva.
Another even older "Atlas & Cyclopedia of Ireland" absolutely fascinating (but difficult) read.
I seriously doubt how much modern History will survive over 200 years on electronic media.
dorian said
11:50 AM Oct 22, 2020
I would archive everything on electronic media, with at least two backups, and then transfer the data to new storage devices as the technology changes. Not only do the media formats and materials change over time, but so do the interface standards. For example, it's getting hard to find a floppy diskette drive nowadays, and earlier hard drive interfaces are no longer supported.
The advantage of digital storage is that it is compact and does not degrade like analogue formats. Three quarters of a "1" bit is still a "1" bit. Recently I saw a documentary of British parliamentary buildings. One massive (200ft?) building was devoted entirely to the storage of parliamentary scrolls dating back to the 15th century. The entire archive would fit on an SD card.
Mike Harding said
01:42 PM Oct 22, 2020
dorian wrote:
Recently I saw a documentary of British parliamentary buildings. One massive (200ft?) building was devoted entirely to the storage of parliamentary scrolls dating back to the 15th century. The entire archive would fit on an SD card.
Do I *really* have to say this to someone who takes a name from one of the greatest authors and poets of modern time!?
Yes Dorian, it would: but it would have no soul.
Old and Grey said
02:18 PM Oct 22, 2020
Well we get the message.
So rather then just recycling 500 Magazines out right. We could leave 10 copies per rest area at each long drop, between Sydney and WA. Thats 50 visits.
If you visit one of these........ You will know that both Old and Myself were thinking of you , while you were waiting.
Hope this does not cause a log jam in the rest areas, OR We will get the blame.
Ten Magazines 10 x 50 pages = 500 x 4 squares per page = 2000 sheets x 50 drop offs = 100,000 squares of recycled paper.
Still free, if you look at it from this prospective.
Hope to see you around a camp fire in 2021, and no BS stories now.
Thanks everyone for your replies.
Grey
the rocket said
05:37 PM Oct 22, 2020
Mike Harding wrote:
Sadly, I had the same experience as you guys when I began the nomad thing, could not give much of my stuff away. The Salvation Army wouldn't take a heap of my furniture because it was not in near perfect condition - it looked fine to me. "People won't buy it - even those shopping with DHSS vouchers" - this society may be too wealthy for its own good in the longer term.
Warren-Pat_01 wrote:
The younger generation has no need of history, even love letters shared by their grandparents, letters written during the wars - they have the internet & everything they need is there, available at the press of a button!!!!
And that Warren is a real tragedy. They will never see photographs of long dead family members in "funny" cloths and gain a sense of their own history. Never know the love and sadness their Dad felt for their Mum when he wrote from a trench in Flanders or the like.
A few years back I bought a copy Dr Spock's book "Baby and Childcare" to give to some prospective new parents I know. For 50 years millions of children were raised with this book in one hand and the baby in the other, including mine. Eventually I chose not to give it to the new parents as they had made clear all the parenting advice they needed was available from the internet. No longer will mum teach daughter how to breast feed and change a nappy - "MumsNet" can now do all of that. Brave New World eh? I don't think so.
The saddest part for me is mums looking on the internet for help with baby. So much more fulfilling to have someone onhand to help N chat n cuppa. Verysad. And i am saddened also by child holding pens While mum works. I know sometimes this is necessary . Anyway, thats my lot, nothing we can do about the sad world we are now living in with regards our children. What other animal gives its young to a stranger to raise. Anyway, thats another story.
Craig1 said
07:40 PM Oct 22, 2020
Cuckoo? I think Rocket
Dougwe said
08:12 PM Oct 22, 2020
Hi Karen and Garry, hope you are both well?
In defence of us humans, at least we don't chuck a kid out cos they are the runt of the litter.
hufnpuf said
08:16 PM Oct 22, 2020
the rocket wrote:What other animal gives its young to a stranger to raise. Anyway, thats another story.
Yes, getting right off topic, but turtles just make the babies and they leave them to fend for themselves and they have to crawl down the beach where dingos and cats and all sorts try to eat them and if they get in the water big fish and sharks try to eat them and most of them end up dead :( Poor little baby turtles :(
Wizardofoz said
08:03 AM Oct 23, 2020
Several years ago, when till working, I was given a repossessed rural property to auction off by the Mortgagee, apparent,y the owner had disappeared to the Middle East some 12 months prior and couldn't be located. Anyway, the home was full of furniture, goods, chattels and even the wardrobes were full of clothes mostly NEW. The mortgagee when contacted told me to dump them, I said that these possessions were too good to dump I will see if I can get a dealer, if not a charity to take them. They said whatever but get rid of them the property has to vacant in a week and sold in 4 weeks!!! Anyway, two 2nd hand dealers and 3 charities later, no takers, dealers weren't interested and charities said the property was about 20 km outside of the city limits and not able to be collected. At the end of the day, I salvaged a brand new tailored leather jacket, some clothing and a tennis racket, the rest of the gear, including a near new pool table, various sporting goods and the entire house full of furniture went into trucks to the TIP, or whoever salvaged some along the way....terrible really, but that's how it is these days.
-- Edited by Wizardofoz on Friday 23rd of October 2020 08:07:25 AM
the rocket said
06:44 PM Oct 23, 2020
Dougwe wrote:
Hi Karen and Garry, hope you are both well?
In defence of us humans, at least we don't chuck a kid out cos they are the runt of the litter.
Hi dougwe, getting there. Will send u a pm.
old and grey, apologies for going off topic. Now, back to the topic. Kind regards. Rocket
Hi all,
WE are decluttering the Castle, so we can finnish the painting.
Trying to off load goods to those who want a good read, watch a VCR video. etc.
No takers so far.
We have tried St Vincent Depaul They took all the DVD's. Back issues of fishing magazines 4 x4 magazines
no one will take. Tried the libraries
.
We have the likes of Notting Hill movies on VCR etc. Not a taker
.
It seems to us, that EVERYTHING these days is a throw away socitey
.
If you want a movie, Magazine or more,just send us a PM. We are in Sydney.
We were told over and over just recycle the lot.
Old & Grey
PS: No you can't have the Van nor the Tug.
-- Edited by Old and Grey on Wednesday 21st of October 2020 03:22:42 PM
If my late wife saw what I chucked I would be getting haunted daily and more than likely nightly as well.
STREWTH! What was that?
I only had a week to get out and no time for garage sales etc. The lady that purchased the unit bought the furniture as well.
No regrets by me and I tell you that for free.
Keep Safe on the roads and out there.
I just chuck old stuff in the bin now. Given up wasting my time trying to give stuff away, it doesn't work.
If having trouble chucking stuff out, try one piece at a time.
Or what works well for me, break it. Then it's broken so you have to chuck it out!
If you snap CD/DVDs put them in a bag & then break them, so bits don't fly everywhere.
Are you telling me that my VHS recordings of Qld State of Origin wins going back to the Wally Lewis days are worthless!!!
I used to watch them in the weeks before the SOO games just to get me in the mood. Not so much the last couple of years.
To make it worse, the more recent recordings on HDD will only play on the particular LG Smart TV set that I currently have. Not even on another LG set!! Bloody USA laws!
We have a "shop" at our rubbish tip where they sell stuff that people leave at the tip. It used to be run by a company/people who pretty much recycled everything and you could pick up bits and bobs for next to nothing. Lots in, lots out. Now it's run by a charity, they'll only take a small amount and they put top dollar prices on everything. I don't bother going there any more.
I tried to give some empty cd cases to the tip shop and was told to dump them. They must be useful to somebody, they sell them at officeworks.
I used to be on a mailing list for "freecycle", that was quite good for people grabbing crap, but it bit the dust. Free giveaways on Gumtree can get results. People always take my empty plantpots that I put up. I get a bit cranky when you put up something free and get asked questions and asked to post photos and put time and effort into it. It's a thing, it's free, just take the blasted thing.
Someone somewhere would like your stuff, Old and Grey, but finding them is pretty much impossible these days. It's such a shame there's so much waste.
I was stunned a couple of weeks ago when I left the Toowoomba Base Hospital, going by ambulance to a private hospital. They had (TBH) given me a set of crutches - untouched by me. Was told, "If you don't take them, we'll put them in the bin!"
This applies also items such as scissors (they are good quality) - all go into the bin - no sterilizing, etc. So does most of this stuff comes in cheap (from China)? Is this a reason why hospital costs are through the roof?
The younger generation has no need of history, even love letters shared by their grandparents, letters written during the wars - they have the internet & everything they need is there, available at the press of a button!!!!
I was able to offload my Choice and National Geographic magazines via the local Freecycling group. Other magazines were gratefully received by local doctor's surgeries. Of course things will be different in these COVID times.
Books, DVDs and VCRs would normally be well received by nursing homes.
-- Edited by dorian on Thursday 22nd of October 2020 05:23:20 AM
Sadly, I had the same experience as you guys when I began the nomad thing, could not give much of my stuff away. The Salvation Army wouldn't take a heap of my furniture because it was not in near perfect condition - it looked fine to me. "People won't buy it - even those shopping with DHSS vouchers" - this society may be too wealthy for its own good in the longer term.
And that Warren is a real tragedy. They will never see photographs of long dead family members in "funny" cloths and gain a sense of their own history. Never know the love and sadness their Dad felt for their Mum when he wrote from a trench in Flanders or the like.
A few years back I bought a copy Dr Spock's book "Baby and Childcare" to give to some prospective new parents I know. For 50 years millions of children were raised with this book in one hand and the baby in the other, including mine. Eventually I chose not to give it to the new parents as they had made clear all the parenting advice they needed was available from the internet. No longer will mum teach daughter how to breast feed and change a nappy - "MumsNet" can now do all of that. Brave New World eh? I don't think so.
We had many years of our lives and travels recorded on 8mm video which became obsolete with the introduction of digital technology. A couple of years ago we went to a business who did a great job transferring everything onto DVDs for us. Over the years our vinyl music has had to be replaced with CDs, 8 track cartridges with cassettes then CDs, flash drives, bluetooth and Apple car play, VHS videos with DVDs the list goes on and will continue to do so as it is worth billions for the manufacturers of the technology. Nowadays most things can be found on the internet and can be downloaded cheaper than what it costs to buy a hard copy in whatever format. Unfortunately things that have been recorded using older technologies are only valuable to those who still have the means to play them. In our travels we reguarly drop into small town flea markets and there will always be someone trying to sell their much loved collections of vinyl albums, cassettes, VHS cartridges etc. but sadly unless you are a collector (or maybe a museum curator) they really don't have much more than a nostalgic value for the owner..
BB
Any book worth reading can probably be purchased as an e-book. In fact Dr Spock's e-book is available for $12 at Amazon. I can foresee a time when the only remaining use for paper will be to blow your nose or wipe your backside.
BTW, I dumped a 24 volume set of Encyclopedia Britannica, plus several yearbooks, in the recycling bin. Nobody wanted them, not even the library, and I don't blame them.
The problem with books and VCRs (moreso than DVDs) is the storage space they take up. Although somebody might theoretically want to watch or read something, they need somewhere to put it.
I bought an e-reader years ago, but I don't like it, I've never really used it. You only get a tiny piece to read before you have to press to get more. With a proper book, you get 2 pages before you have to turn the page. I don't want to read sitting up and staring at a screen, either.
DVDs are pretty much obsolete now, they've been overtaken by online access/streaming. They also aren't all they were said to be when they came in. If they get damaged, they won't play. They don't last either, the coating degrades and they become useless. It isn't just the older technologies where you need old technology to use them. Hard drives don't last and the devices to access their data keep changing. Storage "in the cloud" isn't secure, online streaming will only be available as long as it's made available by those who are making it availabe. Somebody else can wipe out access to the data in an instant, just shut it down and you have nothing. There's a project to archive computer software so that it's not gone forever when the technology moves on.
Hard copy material you keep safe at home will still be there when you want it, as long as your house doesn't burn down. The longevity of a book is longer than that of an 8-track cartridge....
sigh.
So if you store what you have digitally now young people in the future will see the photographs, letters etc. why do you need to have a hard copy that will deteriorate over time anyhow ? My brother did this with our old family history photos that date back as far as 1900 (unfortunately due to the deterioration the quality is only as good as the original). The other plus is that you no longer produce the plastic, the paper, the landfill etc. when you download music etc. I now have most of my collection on thumb drives which I plug into the USB socket and play through the cars sound system, with bluetooth I can also play whatever I have on my other apple devices, if the technology becomes obsolete down the track I guess that it isn't going to take up too much in landfill.
BB
Mike Harding wrote:
"A few years back I bought a copy Dr Spock's book "Baby and Childcare" to give to some prospective new parents I know. For 50 years millions of children were raised with this book in one hand and the baby in the other, including mine. Eventually I chose not to give it to the new parents as they had made clear all the parenting advice they needed was available from the internet. No longer will mum teach daughter how to breast feed and change a nappy - "MumsNet" can now do all of that. Brave New World eh? I don't think so."
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
I have been fairly close to my niece and her children. I never knew we did so many things wrong with our children. I would be too scared to take responsibility for her children I'm sure I would do something verboten. My sister often gets admonished by her daughter.
I was so glad to hand my kids over to my mother and pleased to follow her advice. BTW they both turned out pretty dammed nice people, so, saying "No because I said so" rather than trying to appease and distract them them works I think.
There was a program on ABC recently. Long term archiving is been stored on silver based film, not only photos, but computer code for operating systems, programs & files. Back to tried & tested technology!
If you use a flash drive make at least 3 copies & copy them onto new flash drives every 2 years, & don't forget tag & date each copy.
What dorian said.
Aside from the media failing/unable to be accessed (hardware failure or hardware becoming obsolete/unavailable), there's what's called "bit rot". What's on a printed paper page will just sit there as long as it doesn't get wet or eaten by bugs. Not necessarily so with digital media. It deteriorates over time, and a shorter time than a book will last for.
Too true, I have a couple of books printed in late 1700's.
One the "History of Coventry" has details of the churches/cathedrals prior to being destroyed, including the story written in real time of Lady Godiva.
Another even older "Atlas & Cyclopedia of Ireland" absolutely fascinating (but difficult) read.
I seriously doubt how much modern History will survive over 200 years on electronic media.
The advantage of digital storage is that it is compact and does not degrade like analogue formats. Three quarters of a "1" bit is still a "1" bit. Recently I saw a documentary of British parliamentary buildings. One massive (200ft?) building was devoted entirely to the storage of parliamentary scrolls dating back to the 15th century. The entire archive would fit on an SD card.
Do I *really* have to say this to someone who takes a name from one of the greatest authors and poets of modern time!?
Yes Dorian, it would: but it would have no soul.
Well we get the message.
So rather then just recycling 500 Magazines out right. We could leave 10 copies per rest area at each long drop, between Sydney and WA. Thats 50 visits.
If you visit one of these........ You will know that both Old and Myself were thinking of you , while you were waiting.
Hope this does not cause a log jam in the rest areas, OR We will get the blame.
Ten Magazines 10 x 50 pages = 500 x 4 squares per page = 2000 sheets x 50 drop offs = 100,000 squares of recycled paper.
Still free, if you look at it from this prospective.
Hope to see you around a camp fire in 2021, and no BS stories now.
Thanks everyone for your replies.
Grey
The saddest part for me is mums looking on the internet for help with baby. So much more fulfilling to have someone onhand to help N chat n cuppa. Verysad. And i am saddened also by child holding pens While mum works. I know sometimes this is necessary . Anyway, thats my lot, nothing we can do about the sad world we are now living in with regards our children. What other animal gives its young to a stranger to raise. Anyway, thats another story.
In defence of us humans, at least we don't chuck a kid out cos they are the runt of the litter.
Yes, getting right off topic, but turtles just make the babies and they leave them to fend for themselves and they have to crawl down the beach where dingos and cats and all sorts try to eat them and if they get in the water big fish and sharks try to eat them and most of them end up dead :( Poor little baby turtles :(
Several years ago, when till working, I was given a repossessed rural property to auction off by the Mortgagee, apparent,y the owner had disappeared to the Middle East some 12 months prior and couldn't be located.
Anyway, the home was full of furniture, goods, chattels and even the wardrobes were full of clothes mostly NEW.
The mortgagee when contacted told me to dump them, I said that these possessions were too good to dump I will see if I can get a dealer, if not a charity to take them. They said whatever but get rid of them the property has to vacant in a week and sold in 4 weeks!!!
Anyway, two 2nd hand dealers and 3 charities later, no takers, dealers weren't interested and charities said the property was about 20 km outside of the city limits and not able to be collected.
At the end of the day, I salvaged a brand new tailored leather jacket, some clothing and a tennis racket, the rest of the gear, including a near new pool table, various sporting goods and the entire house full of furniture went into trucks to the TIP, or whoever salvaged some along the way....terrible really, but that's how it is these days.
-- Edited by Wizardofoz on Friday 23rd of October 2020 08:07:25 AM
Hi dougwe, getting there. Will send u a pm.
old and grey, apologies for going off topic. Now, back to the topic. Kind regards. Rocket