Has anyone done a full drain and refill on this transmission and how you went about it it would be much appreciated and or similar auto trans also I took a sample and it is the colour of coca cola .
Cheers
outlaw40 said
10:50 AM Oct 24, 2020
if its that colour i would suggest a trip to the auto trans shop for a full flush as draining wont get the oil out of the torque converter . a full flush will require around 18 to 20 litres of oil to do properly .
Mike196 said
10:53 AM Oct 24, 2020
G'Day TY, If you take it to a Transmission Specialist you won't have to deal with all the old oil. As a matter of interest, how many Kms has the vehicle done? I had the last year model of the early Colorado's with the Isuzu running gear, and the Trans oil was still fresh at 100,000 Kms. I had an external cooler fitted, and we towed a 2060 Kg tare Van. Regards,
travelyounger said
11:10 AM Oct 24, 2020
Mike196 wrote:
G'Day TY, If you take it to a Transmission Specialist you won't have to deal with all the old oil. As a matter of interest, how many Kms has the vehicle done? I had the last year model of the early Colorado's with the Isuzu running gear, and the Trans oil was still fresh at 100,000 Kms. I had an external cooler fitted, and we towed a 2060 Kg tare Van. Regards,
Hi Mike
My ute has done 110000 km and I bought new and has towed up to 3 ton over a lot of hilly terrain and mainly locked in 4th gear.I am currently on a farm camped under a big shed with every tool you can think of and oil disposal system.
We won't be working for next week so plenty of time to do the job myself and at least I'll know its been done and I know they charge approx 500 to 600 for a full flush .
Cheers
outlaw40 said
11:33 AM Oct 24, 2020
Then i suggest you do the change as follows , get transmission to operating temp, drain oil , refill then repeat . this will at least dilute the old oil in the torque convertor .
Umpie1 said
06:29 AM Oct 25, 2020
Get thee to a reputable Auto Transmission Specialist. that way if anything goes wrong you have a comeback and a warranty on the service. If you DIY you are up the proverbial creek.
Old and Grey said
09:41 AM Oct 25, 2020
Morning Travelyounger,
You seem practical so go for it.
I do all our vehicles x 5.
Go to U Tube first up a see if there are a few topics on your vehicle. There they should lay out the gear you need to complete a total change out.
Have a look at the Project 200 series landcruiser series as a good example.
I did over and over so I could not go wrong. Play it back as many times as you need.
Everything can be brought on evil Bay. The two 5lt jugs costed $52 The same 12V transfer pump $36 @mtr of 10mm hose (Bunnings) $12. These items you get for life.
I do use Penrite LVS Full Synthetic. I buy my oil from Super Cheap when on sale. (Last lot cost me $30 per 4lt bottle. I wait and stock up at these prices.)
It has a 46deg higher boiling point then the standard mineral crap they put in.
If you pump in A Flushing fluid into your Torque converter housing. How in hevens on earth do you get it back out in full....... You cant and from there on it will break down your new fluid from NEW.
DO NOT DO THIS.
As long as your car is more or less level you will drain ( In my case 3.9lt into the 5lt measured jug) I put back 3.9lts and run it through ALL gears. Then take it for a run.
Drop the oil again for a second time (Me 3.9lt) and go through all gears and take it for a run.
YOU will Get Great SATISFACTION that its done. And Done right and your transmission is 100%
It not ROCKET SIENCE.
If I can do it.
SO CAN YOU.
Why give Toyo dealers $760 for a crap flush thats going to break down the good oil.
My last Parado had 455,000 km on it when sold. Ran like a swiss clock towing.
My current 200 GX has 147,000km and runs even better.
Grey
outlaw40 said
10:18 AM Oct 25, 2020
WHO said anything about using a flushing oil .???? a full flush is done by pumping trans fluid through the system till it runs clear as thats the only way to get the old stuff out of the torque converter . thats why i suggest op drain ,fill ,drain and refill . why would op be giving any money to a toyota dealer he has a DMAX .
Mike196 said
10:58 AM Oct 25, 2020
G'Day Ty,
" Sounds like you're well set up to DIY it. Let us know how it "pans" out. (scuse the pun)
yobarr said
11:21 AM Oct 25, 2020
outlaw40 wrote:
WHO said anything about using a flushing oil .???? a full flush is done by pumping trans fluid through the system till it runs clear as thats the only way to get the old stuff out of the torque converter . thats why i suggest op drain ,fill ,drain and refill . why would op be giving any money to a toyota dealer he has a DMAX .
Hi Steve...thanks for pointing out these simple facts,as by doing so,you may well have saved someone from a lot of heartache,and financial pain.Cheers
blaze said
12:09 PM Oct 25, 2020
what about the strainer/filter, no point doing a full flush without replacing the strainer/filter moreso as you have black oil
cheers
blaze
outlaw40 said
12:56 PM Oct 25, 2020
Yep thought that would be obvious . But as my old Mum used to say thought thought his feet were sticking out the end of the bed so he got up to check .
Old and Grey said
01:20 PM Oct 25, 2020
outlaw40 wrote:
WHO said anything about using a flushing oil .???? a full flush is done by pumping trans fluid through the system till it runs clear as thats the only way to get the old stuff out of the torque converter . thats why i suggest op drain ,fill ,drain and refill . why would op be giving any money to a toyota dealer he has a DMAX .
Hi Outlaw,
If you are refering to my reply Re: To Mr Toyo. I am using some of the UTube clips that use a Flushing Fluid first up. Never would I suggest to anyone to use this method, as I did Say.
Toyota likes to milk folks dry if they can.
As the op asked, I have a toyo and used as an example.
I to drain, Refill. Drive it for ten minutes. Then Repeat. Every second year I also drop the pan and wash the filter out, Clean the magnets and reinstall. My Filter is a metal mesh unit.
I If got you off track, my apologies.
Grey
travelyounger said
05:25 AM Oct 26, 2020
Thanks everyone for your inputs I would never put in another fluid other than the recommended oil and I might do the oil change three to four times and then check the color of the oil after 10000 km .I assume the filler hole is the larger bolt up the high side of the box
Cheers
Old and Grey said
09:42 AM Oct 26, 2020
travelyounger wrote:
Thanks everyone for your inputs I would never put in another fluid other than the recommended oil and I might do the oil change three to four times and then check the color of the oil after 10000 km .I assume the filler hole is the larger bolt up the high side of the box Cheers
Morning Travelyounger,
Yes that would be it. Mine is on the left side in my 200 series. Check to see if you have an overfill plug on the bottom of the pan. Mine has one ,held in place by 5-6mm Allen key head.
It's always better to refill with a bit extra transmission oil, if yours has the same over fill plug. This allows the correct level to be obtained by undoing the plug. If zero comes out, you then would need to add 100-200mm extra.
As I said above, look at U Tube. Have a look at the project 200 series U Tube. The 200 series is a sealed unit. (it does not have a dip stick to check the transmission oil level.
Many of the newer cars, SUV's are the same these days.
Keep safe out there.
Grey
Aus-Kiwi said
10:01 AM Oct 26, 2020
Fit a trans cooler . The dealers say its not required . If they said you did ? They ARE admitting theres an issue !! So they are bound to say its ok from
Factory!
travelyounger said
06:02 AM Oct 27, 2020
Aus-Kiwi wrote:
Fit a trans cooler . The dealers say its not required . If they said you did ? They ARE admitting theres an issue !! So they are bound to say its ok from Factory!
Good idea its on the shopping list but the treasurers eyes roll every time I mention something about car
Hi all
Has anyone done a full drain and refill on this transmission and how you went about it it would be much appreciated and or similar auto trans also I took a sample and it is the colour of coca cola .
Cheers
G'Day TY,
If you take it to a Transmission Specialist you won't have to deal with all the old oil. As a matter of interest, how many Kms has the vehicle done? I had the last year model of the early Colorado's with the Isuzu running gear, and the Trans oil was still fresh at 100,000 Kms. I had an external cooler fitted, and we towed a 2060 Kg tare Van.
Regards,
Hi Mike
My ute has done 110000 km and I bought new and has towed up to 3 ton over a lot of hilly terrain and mainly locked in 4th gear.I am currently on a farm camped under a big shed with every tool you can think of and oil disposal system.
We won't be working for next week so plenty of time to do the job myself and at least I'll know its been done and I know they charge approx 500 to 600 for a full flush .
Cheers
Morning Travelyounger,
You seem practical so go for it.
I do all our vehicles x 5.
Go to U Tube first up a see if there are a few topics on your vehicle. There they should lay out the gear you need to complete a total change out.
Have a look at the Project 200 series landcruiser series as a good example.
I did over and over so I could not go wrong. Play it back as many times as you need.
Everything can be brought on evil Bay. The two 5lt jugs costed $52 The same 12V transfer pump $36 @mtr of 10mm hose (Bunnings) $12. These items you get for life.
I do use Penrite LVS Full Synthetic. I buy my oil from Super Cheap when on sale. (Last lot cost me $30 per 4lt bottle. I wait and stock up at these prices.)
It has a 46deg higher boiling point then the standard mineral crap they put in.
If you pump in A Flushing fluid into your Torque converter housing. How in hevens on earth do you get it back out in full....... You cant and from there on it will break down your new fluid from NEW.
DO NOT DO THIS.
As long as your car is more or less level you will drain ( In my case 3.9lt into the 5lt measured jug) I put back 3.9lts and run it through ALL gears. Then take it for a run.
Drop the oil again for a second time (Me 3.9lt) and go through all gears and take it for a run.
YOU will Get Great SATISFACTION that its done. And Done right and your transmission is 100%
It not ROCKET SIENCE.
If I can do it.
SO CAN YOU.
Why give Toyo dealers $760 for a crap flush thats going to break down the good oil.
My last Parado had 455,000 km on it when sold. Ran like a swiss clock towing.
My current 200 GX has 147,000km and runs even better.
Grey
G'Day Ty,
" Sounds like you're well set up to DIY it. Let us know how it "pans" out. (scuse the pun)
Hi Steve...thanks for pointing out these simple facts,as by doing so,you may well have saved someone from a lot of heartache,and financial pain.Cheers
cheers
blaze
Hi Outlaw,
If you are refering to my reply Re: To Mr Toyo. I am using some of the UTube clips that use a Flushing Fluid first up. Never would I suggest to anyone to use this method, as I did Say.
Toyota likes to milk folks dry if they can.
As the op asked, I have a toyo and used as an example.
I to drain, Refill. Drive it for ten minutes. Then Repeat. Every second year I also drop the pan and wash the filter out, Clean the magnets and reinstall. My Filter is a metal mesh unit.
I If got you off track, my apologies.
Grey
Cheers
Morning Travelyounger,
Yes that would be it. Mine is on the left side in my 200 series. Check to see if you have an overfill plug on the bottom of the pan. Mine has one ,held in place by 5-6mm Allen key head.
It's always better to refill with a bit extra transmission oil, if yours has the same over fill plug. This allows the correct level to be obtained by undoing the plug. If zero comes out, you then would need to add 100-200mm extra.
As I said above, look at U Tube. Have a look at the project 200 series U Tube. The 200 series is a sealed unit. (it does not have a dip stick to check the transmission oil level.
Many of the newer cars, SUV's are the same these days.
Keep safe out there.
Grey
Good idea its on the shopping list but the treasurers eyes roll every time I mention something about car
Cheers