I have an ibis three air con on my currant van and its very noisy at night and does not get below 24 degrees on a hot day when outside is 35 and above and does anyone have the ibis four as a replacement and how it compares we only use it for cooling
cheers
Whenarewethere said
04:24 PM Nov 22, 2020
It's only 3.1kW of cooling according to the specs so it's going to struggle with 35°C heat, not forgetting 6 watts of heat (cooling) per square metre per degree difference is lost through the windows, cover them, & the rest of the structure is probably not much better.
Sound deadening, is it mounting on proper rubber isolation mounted, maybe they have hardened with age. Fill behind internal trim panel with acoustic foam may help a touch.
The Belmont Bear said
07:30 PM Nov 22, 2020
I have been told and also read on the internet that most domestic A/Cs only reduce the inlet air temperature by around 10deg.C so your ibis 3 is probably performing as expected on a hot day. I reckon 24C is still a lot more comfortable than 35C especially when you're trying to sleep, our ibis 3 is fairly quiet when its operating but you can hear it when it cuts in and out.
BB
Whenarewethere said
08:10 PM Nov 22, 2020
If it's been more than 6 months, give the internal & external coils a clean. Compressed air works well, & clean the air filter.
Depending how the AC works often it is better to put the fan on low, you get less air going through it but it will be colder & more importantly drier.
Radar said
09:18 AM Nov 23, 2020
travelyounger wrote:
I have an ibis three air con on my currant van and its very noisy at night and does not get below 24 degrees on a hot day when outside is 35 and above and does anyone have the ibis four as a replacement and how it compares we only use it for cooling
cheers
Ours had a hic cup last year,.
I called a air con up here at Clontaff Qld, over the phone we did some simple test and made a date to do the job on our 2012 model.
1, simple starter thing, $200.
2, electronic mother board, a lot more money.
3, replace it with the lastest about $2000.
Well ours is a slim line model, it was the starter thingy, also replaced some rubber mounting bushers.
He checked our 15amp plug, found a bit of not the best wiring, suggested I purchase a new lead, ours was a 1976 model.
Some caravan parks have very weak 230 volts that causes problems with that starter thingy which we found out at a outback park. It was alright until we switch the small heater on along with a few others in the morning when kept throwing the overload in the park.
Out come works a treat, a lot quieter on start ups and just purrs along.
If and if the time comes to replace the a/c the one thing I would do is have a tall one fitted. The air compressor stands up, not laying down as in a slim one and few hundred dollars cheaper.
I not a qualified at anything but the info is what was explained to me by the very likable tradie.
Hope this is of some help.
Maccanak said
01:14 PM Nov 23, 2020
We have an IBIS 2 unit in a 22"4 van, it is not that loud, the compressor kicking in can be noticeable at night sometimes but this is more to the fact that the fan is lowered to 0 output for compressor to start meaning there is a break in the constant white noise but the fan power is great, ours definitely gets below 24°c even hot days, we were recently up in coral bay for 2 weeks and would come back from the beach in afternoon, inside temp was 32°c, outside 36+ and in 20 minutes it would be below 24°c internally.
Shutting the blinds makes a huge difference, we also now run out fantastic fans when out and about meaning a/c has less work to do when we want it.
Cupie said
04:11 PM Nov 23, 2020
Until a recent outback trip I thought that our rarely used 20YO Aircommand AC had died.
In the past, warping of the top cover had caused the roof top fan to foul the top cover & aged mounts caused it to hit on the bottom. So I got into the lid with a grinder & chased out the fan path channel & made up some improved mounts. Volar, no more noise! But a test run of the AC seemed like it wasn't working & I just didn't get round to taking it to an AC mechanic.
When it got a bit hot one day at Winton recently, we put on the AC just on spec & guess what, it worked. Perhaps not as good as it did 20 years ago but got down to 24 degrees as tested with my IR temp gun. I'll probably get it re-gassed in due course.
We don't like sleeping with AC going (at home or in the van) so I installed a 240v fan at the foot of the bed & I put in a 12v Camfro fan at each side of the head of the bed, in case we decide to camp off grid. They are controlled by $4 chink speed controllers & are fantastic. They are absolutely silent & can be turned down to provide a beautiful gentle breeze without much DC power consumption and most importantly, no noise.
BYW, I agree that shading is most important when using the Van AC. I always shade both sides of the van and get into strife with SWMBO when I close off the block out curtains when I turn on the AC. One day I might make up a set of window shades along the lines of those car windscreen shades. That would really send SWMBO off.
yogi said
09:49 PM Nov 23, 2020
<<< has the ibis #4 . entirely happy, cold = cold it cools to 16deg , the twin piston rotary compressor has very, very little noise
paul.
Warren-Pat_01 said
10:05 PM Nov 23, 2020
Hi travelyounger,
The energy companies encourage us to have our home air conditioners set to 25 degrees which is adequate for those of us who live in the tropics.
We set our caravan to somewhere around 25-26 degrees - just comfortable, afterall we don't need to sleep under a doona.
I agree with Cupie that sleeping under a fan is much better unless it is really hot at night. When we lived at Ceduna it was not uncommon to have the outside temp still sitting on 38 degrees at 9m in summer. We had evaporative cooling in the house.
Radar said
10:05 PM Nov 23, 2020
yogi wrote:
<<< has the ibis #4 . entirely happy, cold = cold it cools to 16deg , the twin piston rotary compressor has very, very little noise
paul.
Yes! Paul, I will have one of those when this one throws the towel in.
Thank you.
travelyounger said
09:08 PM Nov 24, 2020
Radar wrote:
yogi wrote:
<<< has the ibis #4 . entirely happy, cold = cold it cools to 16deg , the twin piston rotary compressor has very, very little noise
paul.
Yes! Paul, I will have one of those when this one throws the towel in.
Thank you.
I may have to update when my one throws in the towel does anyone know if the cutout in roof is the same footprint that is ibis 3 to ibis 4
cheers
Radar said
09:14 PM Nov 24, 2020
wish I could help but I am under that impression it fits in that standard space.
Ring Ibis they are excellent to talk with.
-- Edited by Radar on Tuesday 24th of November 2020 09:18:09 PM
I have an ibis three air con on my currant van and its very noisy at night and does not get below 24 degrees on a hot day when outside is 35 and above and does anyone have the ibis four as a replacement and how it compares we only use it for cooling
cheers
It's only 3.1kW of cooling according to the specs so it's going to struggle with 35°C heat, not forgetting 6 watts of heat (cooling) per square metre per degree difference is lost through the windows, cover them, & the rest of the structure is probably not much better.
Sound deadening, is it mounting on proper rubber isolation mounted, maybe they have hardened with age. Fill behind internal trim panel with acoustic foam may help a touch.
BB
If it's been more than 6 months, give the internal & external coils a clean. Compressed air works well, & clean the air filter.
Depending how the AC works often it is better to put the fan on low, you get less air going through it but it will be colder & more importantly drier.
Ours had a hic cup last year,.
I called a air con up here at Clontaff Qld, over the phone we did some simple test and made a date to do the job on our 2012 model.
1, simple starter thing, $200.
2, electronic mother board, a lot more money.
3, replace it with the lastest about $2000.
Well ours is a slim line model, it was the starter thingy, also replaced some rubber mounting bushers.
He checked our 15amp plug, found a bit of not the best wiring, suggested I purchase a new lead, ours was a 1976 model.
Some caravan parks have very weak 230 volts that causes problems with that starter thingy which we found out at a outback park. It was alright until we switch the small heater on along with a few others in the morning when kept throwing the overload in the park.
Out come works a treat, a lot quieter on start ups and just purrs along.
If and if the time comes to replace the a/c the one thing I would do is have a tall one fitted. The air compressor stands up, not laying down as in a slim one and few hundred dollars cheaper.
I not a qualified at anything but the info is what was explained to me by the very likable tradie.
Hope this is of some help.
Shutting the blinds makes a huge difference, we also now run out fantastic fans when out and about meaning a/c has less work to do when we want it.
Until a recent outback trip I thought that our rarely used 20YO Aircommand AC had died.
In the past, warping of the top cover had caused the roof top fan to foul the top cover & aged mounts caused it to hit on the bottom. So I got into the lid with a grinder & chased out the fan path channel & made up some improved mounts. Volar, no more noise! But a test run of the AC seemed like it wasn't working & I just didn't get round to taking it to an AC mechanic.
When it got a bit hot one day at Winton recently, we put on the AC just on spec & guess what, it worked. Perhaps not as good as it did 20 years ago but got down to 24 degrees as tested with my IR temp gun. I'll probably get it re-gassed in due course.
We don't like sleeping with AC going (at home or in the van) so I installed a 240v fan at the foot of the bed & I put in a 12v Camfro fan at each side of the head of the bed, in case we decide to camp off grid. They are controlled by $4 chink speed controllers & are fantastic. They are absolutely silent & can be turned down to provide a beautiful gentle breeze without much DC power consumption and most importantly, no noise.
BYW, I agree that shading is most important when using the Van AC. I always shade both sides of the van and get into strife with SWMBO when I close off the block out curtains when I turn on the AC. One day I might make up a set of window shades along the lines of those car windscreen shades. That would really send SWMBO off.
<<< has the ibis #4 . entirely happy, cold = cold it cools to 16deg , the twin piston rotary compressor has very, very little noise
paul.
The energy companies encourage us to have our home air conditioners set to 25 degrees which is adequate for those of us who live in the tropics.
We set our caravan to somewhere around 25-26 degrees - just comfortable, afterall we don't need to sleep under a doona.
I agree with Cupie that sleeping under a fan is much better unless it is really hot at night. When we lived at Ceduna it was not uncommon to have the outside temp still sitting on 38 degrees at 9m in summer. We had evaporative cooling in the house.
Yes! Paul, I will have one of those when this one throws the towel in.
Thank you.
I may have to update when my one throws in the towel does anyone know if the cutout in roof is the same footprint that is ibis 3 to ibis 4
cheers
wish I could help but I am under that impression it fits in that standard space.
Ring Ibis they are excellent to talk with.
-- Edited by Radar on Tuesday 24th of November 2020 09:18:09 PM
ibis#4 will come with a adapter plate. 360,or 400