Just returned from a short trip and discovered the tap in the Kitchen area had come away from the base, travelled only bitumen roads, so nothing rough to work it loose, on inspection to attempt to put it back together, it appears it was only glued into place, there are no screws, bolts or anything used to attach it to the bench top, not a major problem but very poor workmanship, Jayco.
travelyounger said
04:16 PM Feb 11, 2021
Mario wrote:
Just returned from a short trip and discovered the tap in the Kitchen area had come away from the base, travelled only bitumen roads, so nothing rough to work it loose, on inspection to attempt to put it back together, it appears it was only glued into place, there are no screws, bolts or anything used to attach it to the bench top, not a major problem but very poor workmanship, Jayco.
I was told by a Jayco owner that they called theirs a shayco but I said what do you mean and she said everything shakes off ,I kept my mouth shut as I did not to upset all the others as I know 50% of vans bear that name.
Cheers
O Champ said
04:38 PM Feb 11, 2021
Mario,
I had the same problem in my kitchen and en-suite. The mixers are held in place from underneath- not easy to get at. I fixed both by putting a spring washer on and havent had the problem since even after traveling a few hundred ks on dirt roads. Mine is a 2016 Journey. I did the same thing to a friends much more expensive van, not a Jayco, as he was having the same problem. When these mixers are installed in a house the house doesnt move therefore dont work loose. Hope this helps.
Kev
Whenarewethere said
05:07 PM Feb 11, 2021
Thermal expansion will not help the situation either.
Once upon a time things were simple, for critical bolts & nuts they used to screw a metal plate to the base material. This will stop the bolt or nut from coming loose.
They arent glued on. They are tightened from underneath. You need to get a tube spanner. Really cheap from Bunnings. Mine did shake loose after a long trip on corrugations. Since I tightened them up they havent come loose since. Rod.
The problem with taps, you get corrosion, & it is simply condensation, not a leak, & it can be a real pain getting those large nuts off.
Personally I would not be overly keen having the nut more difficult to crack.
Putting some Teflon tape on the tread helps, but without bonding nut.
Gas Teflon tape is thicker.
Tony Bev said
08:04 PM Feb 12, 2021
Loctite is good stuff to keep nuts on bolts, bearings in housings etc
There are many different grades of loctite, for different applications, so it is important read the container it comes in
Inside a caravan I would only be using Loctite 243, as it is an adhesive thread locker, which will keep your bolt/nut secure, but you can use ordinary tools to undo them
Someone had put (what looks like) normal thread loctite, on the fittings of my one way pressure reducer valve, to plastic connections
There is no way I can dismantle this connection, (I have had it in my vice, in my shed), because any heat would destroy the plastic fitting/shroud
Loctite 243, does not require heat to undo it
Digger2 said
07:17 AM Feb 14, 2021
Dont let Loctite come into contact with any acrylic material either. If it does it will induce stress cracking in the acrylic. Dont ask how I know this
tiger5 said
09:15 AM Feb 14, 2021
After 17 years still going strong. The only problem I had was the mirror in on suite came off the heading into Lawn Hill. Put larger screws in & that fixed it the only other things to break were caused by me.
Mario said
05:25 PM Feb 14, 2021
Thanks all, Will be off to Bunnings for nessessary items to correct the problem, after Lockdown of course.
Gravy73 said
05:42 PM Feb 14, 2021
A cheap nut locking solution for non critical applications is to use Mums Nail Polish, does the job and easy to undo.
dieseltojo said
10:36 AM Feb 15, 2021
All manufactures cut costs to the detriment of their own product. You can't blame Jayco for the workmanship of a tap as they didn't build the thing. But they ought to realise that their profit come from the buying public, and they should put in quality taps which get used often.
But the salesman comes in with a few samples and then the factory puts out junk. You don't always get info on the quality until the stars breaking. In a new van they ought to replace the thing...
Granty said
10:53 AM Feb 15, 2021
Its not broken. Just needs tightening. Mario when you buy the tube spanner get the cheaper set. For some reason the more expensive ones have a crimp in them and dont allow for the long thread to fit through. Rod.
Mario said
03:00 PM Feb 19, 2021
New Tap bought from Bunnings, removed old tap, all that was holding that thing on was 'Glue'! Fitted new tap using the rubber washer and metal plate under bench top tightened it all up, tap all secure.
A small inconvenience but why aren't these things done properly in the first place.
Whenarewethere said
03:15 PM Feb 19, 2021
Mario wrote:
why aren't these things done properly in the first place.
Because no one cares.
If you want it done properly you have to do it yourself.
If you want some decent tapware. Sussex Taps, made in Australia.
Just returned from a short trip and discovered the tap in the Kitchen area had come away from the base, travelled only bitumen roads, so nothing rough to work it loose, on inspection to attempt to put it back together, it appears it was only glued into place, there are no screws, bolts or anything used to attach it to the bench top, not a major problem but very poor workmanship, Jayco.
I was told by a Jayco owner that they called theirs a shayco but I said what do you mean and she said everything shakes off ,I kept my mouth shut as I did not to upset all the others as I know 50% of vans bear that name.
Cheers
Mario,
I had the same problem in my kitchen and en-suite. The mixers are held in place from underneath- not easy to get at. I fixed both by putting a spring washer on and havent had the problem since even after traveling a few hundred ks on dirt roads. Mine is a 2016 Journey. I did the same thing to a friends much more expensive van, not a Jayco, as he was having the same problem. When these mixers are installed in a house the house doesnt move therefore dont work loose. Hope this helps.
Kev
Thermal expansion will not help the situation either.
Once upon a time things were simple, for critical bolts & nuts they used to screw a metal plate to the base material. This will stop the bolt or nut from coming loose.
Simple & works on any size nut.
Loctite is brilliant & I use is often.
The problem with taps, you get corrosion, & it is simply condensation, not a leak, & it can be a real pain getting those large nuts off.
Personally I would not be overly keen having the nut more difficult to crack.
Putting some Teflon tape on the tread helps, but without bonding nut.
Gas Teflon tape is thicker.
There are many different grades of loctite, for different applications, so it is important read the container it comes in
Inside a caravan I would only be using Loctite 243, as it is an adhesive thread locker, which will keep your bolt/nut secure, but you can use ordinary tools to undo them
Someone had put (what looks like) normal thread loctite, on the fittings of my one way pressure reducer valve, to plastic connections
There is no way I can dismantle this connection, (I have had it in my vice, in my shed), because any heat would destroy the plastic fitting/shroud
Loctite 243, does not require heat to undo it
Dont let Loctite come into contact with any acrylic material either. If it does it will induce stress cracking in the acrylic. Dont ask how I know this
Thanks all,
Will be off to Bunnings for nessessary items to correct the problem, after Lockdown of course.
All manufactures cut costs to the detriment of their own product. You can't blame Jayco for the workmanship of a tap as they didn't build the thing. But they ought to realise that their profit come from the buying public, and they should put in quality taps which get used often.
But the salesman comes in with a few samples and then the factory puts out junk. You don't always get info on the quality until the stars breaking. In a new van they ought to replace the thing...
Because no one cares.
If you want it done properly you have to do it yourself.
If you want some decent tapware. Sussex Taps, made in Australia.