And if you do how does it go with your caravan air conditioner and/or other heavy loads? The Product Review website has one report that it won't run a van AC.
Possum3 said
02:27 PM May 22, 2021
Mike as I understand it it is a clone of Honda's 22i which has maximum output of 2200W/240 volt AC and 8.3 amp DC - I have the Honda and it performs well with van's Ibis air conditioner, washing machine and assorted power tools. Maybe there is a performance difference with Yamaha, but I doubt it.
Mike Harding said
06:06 PM May 22, 2021
Hi P3, no it's not a clone. The Yamaha has an 80cc engine, the Honda has a 120cc engine. Also the Yamaha is $200 more expensive than the Honda.
As you suggest; I doubt there is much difference in performance but generators are a minefield and it an expensive gamble.
gdayjr said
06:26 PM May 22, 2021
I was just looking at a Redback 2.2 KVA inverter pure sine wave generator on special at $599.
Supposed to be rated at 55db @7m.
Not sure if i should grab one while they are so cheap.
On special from Itechworld
Mike Harding said
11:01 AM May 24, 2021
gdayjr wrote:
I was just looking at a Redback 2.2 KVA inverter pure sine wave generator on special at $599.
Supposed to be rated at 55db @7m.
On special from Itechworld
I'd have more confidence in their noise specification if they understood the correct abbreviation for decibel... and it's not "Db".
gdayjr said
07:00 PM May 24, 2021
I think when i purchase one next year, i will certainly buy one the top brands, i don't think price is the driving factor for me.
As stated in another post here, i want to be sure that if i need a part, i can get it.
I thought decibel was abbreviated as dB ?
-- Edited by gdayjr on Monday 24th of May 2021 07:03:07 PM
KJB said
07:12 PM May 24, 2021
gdayjr wrote:
I think when i purchase one next year, i will certainly buy one the top brands, i don't think price is the driving factor for me.
As stated in another post here, i want to be sure that if i need a part, i can get it.
I thought decibel was abbreviated as dB ?
-- Edited by gdayjr on Monday 24th of May 2021 07:03:07 PM
Plenty of good Honda EU20i Gen Sets on Gumtree, Marketplace etc.. Not over expensive - often had very little use.....
jeepnudger said
09:32 PM Jun 3, 2021
I have honda2000i , works well with ibis 3 air con , provided hot water heater turned off . Noise is always a concern the ratings dont interest yr neighbor if it is 11.00pm or later at night.
TheHeaths said
08:27 AM Jun 4, 2021
Seems no one has the Yamaha! Pity, because I like the look of them as well, and would have been interested in some real life info.
There again, I wouldnt be using it at 2300 anytime.
-- Edited by TheHeaths on Friday 4th of June 2021 08:28:46 AM
the rocket said
10:04 AM Jun 4, 2021
I do not have the 2200 but i have the ef2400 Yamaha. Runs everything great Incl. Air con. When bought got told that was the size needed to start up and run air con. And anything smaller would not be enough for the start up. Anyway, runs great, happywith purchase.
fuzbar said
04:06 PM Jun 4, 2021
Hi Mike,
We have a Yamaha 2200 and have been told it will not run our aircon which is a Houghton Belair which is not a soft start type.
I have not tried to run the aircon as I am told, possible damage may occur to aircon or gen if gen has insufficient grunt.
tempestv8 said
07:44 PM Sep 23, 2021
I did a lot of research and decided that if I were to buy a new portable generator, the EU22i would get my dollars over the EF2200iS, simply because at idle and also at full throttle, the Honda is measurably quieter than the Yamaha.
There are lots of Youtube videos that validate this.
The second reason why I'd go for the Honda is simply because there are more dealers and parts availability, kind of like how Toyota is preferred over the competition for the same reason. A little more subtle but equally valid is that the parts on the Honda are cheaper.
However if I were buying the smaller Yamaha EF2000iS compared to the Honda EU20i, the choice is much harder, as the Yamaha becomes a much more compelling purchase due to iron sleeved engine, lower idle noise level. The Honda EU20i is noisier at idle but quieter than the Yamaha at full throttle. However it has various plastic parts inside the engine like the governor and camshaft!
Back to the original poster's query re running a caravan's A/C, neither the Yamaha EF2200iS nor the Honda EU22i will run a big caravan's AC if other big power items are running at the same time, e.g. hot water service switched on at 240v, and Microwave running.
But if these two items are turned off, then there's a very good chance that most caravan a/c units can be started by either of these two generators. Be wary of a/c power consumption numbers, which only specify running power requirements, but conveniently (?) fail to mention the significant start up power requirements. That's where the generators will flounder, if the a/c startup power requirements exceed the max outputs from the generators. And these startup power requirements are significant, sometimes as much as almost double the running power requirements.
Now the most important question is - what model caravan a/c does the original poster have? :)
Brodie Allen said
10:57 AM Sep 27, 2021
Re gennies starting A/c's
The start-up is complicated because the compressor and fan start together
and the combined current draw will likely stop the smaller (2000) genny.
Before turning the a/c on,:
The workaround is to simply set the temperature way below ambient if its cold
or way above if it's hot.
That way the fan will start up, but not the compressor.
Then when running, advance the temp setting to that required and since
the fan is already going, it is a lower initial draw and will start up without
tripping the genny.
Some later a/c units have a "Soft Start" program which makes this procedure
unnecessary. You can buy a Soft Start module and retrofit it to your older a/c.
And if you do how does it go with your caravan air conditioner and/or other heavy loads? The Product Review website has one report that it won't run a van AC.
Hi P3, no it's not a clone. The Yamaha has an 80cc engine, the Honda has a 120cc engine. Also the Yamaha is $200 more expensive than the Honda.
As you suggest; I doubt there is much difference in performance but generators are a minefield and it an expensive gamble.
I was just looking at a Redback 2.2 KVA inverter pure sine wave generator on special at $599.
Supposed to be rated at 55db @7m.
Not sure if i should grab one while they are so cheap.
On special from Itechworld
I'd have more confidence in their noise specification if they understood the correct abbreviation for decibel... and it's not "Db".
I think when i purchase one next year, i will certainly buy one the top brands, i don't think price is the driving factor for me.
As stated in another post here, i want to be sure that if i need a part, i can get it.
I thought decibel was abbreviated as dB ?
-- Edited by gdayjr on Monday 24th of May 2021 07:03:07 PM
Plenty of good Honda EU20i Gen Sets on Gumtree, Marketplace etc.. Not over expensive - often had very little use.....
Seems no one has the Yamaha! Pity, because I like the look of them as well, and would have been interested in some real life info.
There again, I wouldnt be using it at 2300 anytime.
-- Edited by TheHeaths on Friday 4th of June 2021 08:28:46 AM
I do not have the 2200 but i have the ef2400 Yamaha. Runs everything great Incl. Air con. When bought got told that was the size needed to start up and run air con. And anything smaller would not be enough for the start up. Anyway, runs great, happywith purchase.
We have a Yamaha 2200 and have been told it will not run our aircon which is a Houghton Belair which is not a soft start type.
I have not tried to run the aircon as I am told, possible damage may occur to aircon or gen if gen has insufficient grunt.
There are lots of Youtube videos that validate this.
The second reason why I'd go for the Honda is simply because there are more dealers and parts availability, kind of like how Toyota is preferred over the competition for the same reason. A little more subtle but equally valid is that the parts on the Honda are cheaper.
However if I were buying the smaller Yamaha EF2000iS compared to the Honda EU20i, the choice is much harder, as the Yamaha becomes a much more compelling purchase due to iron sleeved engine, lower idle noise level. The Honda EU20i is noisier at idle but quieter than the Yamaha at full throttle. However it has various plastic parts inside the engine like the governor and camshaft!
Back to the original poster's query re running a caravan's A/C, neither the Yamaha EF2200iS nor the Honda EU22i will run a big caravan's AC if other big power items are running at the same time, e.g. hot water service switched on at 240v, and Microwave running.
But if these two items are turned off, then there's a very good chance that most caravan a/c units can be started by either of these two generators. Be wary of a/c power consumption numbers, which only specify running power requirements, but conveniently (?) fail to mention the significant start up power requirements. That's where the generators will flounder, if the a/c startup power requirements exceed the max outputs from the generators. And these startup power requirements are significant, sometimes as much as almost double the running power requirements.
Now the most important question is - what model caravan a/c does the original poster have? :)
The start-up is complicated because the compressor and fan start together
and the combined current draw will likely stop the smaller (2000) genny.
Before turning the a/c on,:
The workaround is to simply set the temperature way below ambient if its cold
or way above if it's hot.
That way the fan will start up, but not the compressor.
Then when running, advance the temp setting to that required and since
the fan is already going, it is a lower initial draw and will start up without
tripping the genny.
Some later a/c units have a "Soft Start" program which makes this procedure
unnecessary. You can buy a Soft Start module and retrofit it to your older a/c.
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