I just can't wait to hear from such an open minded line up of presenters ... NOT ... They won't lure this ABC viewer away from Aunty. LOL
Aussie1 said
04:37 PM Jul 30, 2021
Left - Right - Left -Right, If Lefty is your position stick with the Tax payer funded "dribble" on the ABC. Or if being a Righty is your position, enjoy the "dribble" on Sky :)
Always good to have choices eh ;) Me, well I only have one say every few years at the Polling Booth, and use the rest of the time to enjoy myself.
Bicyclecamper said
06:42 PM Jul 30, 2021
I get all my news from this forum, more qualified to deliver the news, then anyone else out there, it may be a lot of just peoples opinion, but it is an opinion, of that days news, don't need to go anywhere else. HaHa.
Mike Harding said
06:56 PM Jul 30, 2021
All news sources (except *maybe* the BBC) have a slant, one simply needs to understand that and filter appropriately.
Mariner30 said
08:56 PM Jul 30, 2021
We live in a regional Tas area.
Have lived and worked in other interstate regional areas for nearly 40 years now.
You could not pay me enough to watch anything that has Sky in it's name.
Not ever.
dorian said
09:27 AM Jul 31, 2021
I tried to give Sky a fair go, but it's not "news" and never will be news. It's just a continuous procession of opinion pieces by right wing talking heads, no doubt with Murdoch pulling the strings. I can't see any value for regional Australia.
Cupie said
10:50 AM Jul 31, 2021
dorian wrote:
I tried to give Sky a fair go, but it's not "news" and never will be news. It's just a continuous procession of opinion pieces by right wing talking heads, no doubt with Murdoch pulling the strings. I can't see any value for regional Australia.
Very well put.. I agree
Izabarack said
02:18 PM Jul 31, 2021
Dick0 wrote:
Sky News Regional will no doubt take viewers from ABC regions.
No great loss. ABC is not focused on ratings. Plus all the smart viewers will quickly go back to the ABC. The ABC tends to report factual information so viewers can form their own opinions.
Izabarack said
02:26 PM Jul 31, 2021
Mike Harding wrote:
All news sources (except *maybe* the BBC) have a slant, one simply needs to understand that and filter appropriately.
I dont know how much time I have left so dont want to waste my remaining life filtering out the dross from a known source of dribble and conspiracy theories. I have actually tried to watch a couple of stories on Sky but they all failed logic (and my BS detector) within a couple of seconds. Not going to try again.
Mike Harding said
06:55 PM Jul 31, 2021
Izabarack wrote:
I dont know how much time I have left so dont want to waste my remaining life filtering out the dross from a known source of dribble and conspiracy theories.
Whichever news source you favour it's probably best not to take everything it utters as gospel.
Izabarack said
08:15 PM Jul 31, 2021
Mike Harding wrote:
Whichever news source you favour it's probably best not to take everything it utters as gospel.
I dont take the results in Peer Reviewed research papers without having a good look at the Method section.
Tony Bev said
07:35 PM Aug 1, 2021
Hi Richard
I am not sure that I have seen Sky News, I have certainly not seen Alan Jones on the telly, so perhaps I should not comment
But
It looks like they have been banned from YouTube for one week, for sprouting covid-19 misinformation
Yet another "global entity " censoring selectively, doesnt take long to forget the F Boo episode.
I do not agree with anti vaxers, but there have been many horrible things left up on both platforms, very sanctimonius
Izabarack said
06:53 AM Aug 2, 2021
Tony Bev wrote:
It looks like they have been banned from YouTube for one week, for sprouting covid-19 misinformation
Good to see responsible action to address irresponsible behaviour.
msg said
11:41 AM Aug 2, 2021
I wish I could get a passionate about things as you do Izabarack. Its only a news channel that's watch if you want. big deal.
Brodie Allen said
12:00 PM Aug 2, 2021
"Reporters" aren't much more than ratings propagators.
Fake News aptly describes their "profession" nowdays.
The whole world seems to have taken a very lamentable collapse
into a very sad place - don't know how the next generation will
ever enjoy the privileges and lifestyle we have enjoyed in the past.
It's all about MONEY and POWER now.
Mike Harding said
02:09 PM Aug 2, 2021
Izabarack wrote:
Tony Bev wrote:
It looks like they have been banned from YouTube for one week, for sprouting covid-19 misinformation
Good to see responsible action to address irresponsible behaviour.
If you care to have Google as the arbiters and censors of what you may view that is...?
Izabarack said
02:24 PM Aug 2, 2021
msg wrote:
Its only a news channel that's watch if you want. big deal.
ItS far from being a news channel. Its a business that makes money in direct relation to its ratings. Its track record in being able to influence the Not-so-smart and the lonely in the community makes it a big deal when it can be argued that the mis-information it puts out is indirectly responsible for some of the spread of infection in the community.
Mike Harding said
02:45 PM Aug 2, 2021
Izabarack wrote:
ItS far from being a news channel. Its a business that makes money in direct relation to its ratings. Its track record in being able to influence the Not-so-smart and the lonely in the community makes it a big deal when it can be argued that the mis-information it puts out is indirectly responsible for some of the spread of infection in the community.
Thank Goodness we have people, such as Izabarack, with the wisdom to take the time and trouble to protect those of us, less able, from ourselves.
Mate: there is a big difference between you and I: I have strong opinions on many subjects and often voice them but I never think I have the God-like powers to tell others what they may view, read or think.
Dick0 said
03:48 PM Aug 2, 2021
Mike Harding wrote:
Izabarack wrote:
ItS far from being a news channel. Its a business that makes money in direct relation to its ratings. Its track record in being able to influence the Not-so-smart and the lonely in the community makes it a big deal when it can be argued that the mis-information it puts out is indirectly responsible for some of the spread of infection in the community.
Thank Goodness we have people, such as Izabarack, with the wisdom to take the time and trouble to protect those of us, less able, from ourselves.
Mate: there is a big difference between you and I: I have strong opinions on many subjects and often voice them but I never think I have the God-like powers to tell others what they may view, read or think.
Mike, a point you make so well.
I can add, also, that every audio and video device has an on/off button or remote that changes channels.
It's always good to listen to two or more opinions from various data sources about the many topics, and then be able to reinforce your own beliefs.
Governments do this every day with advisors.
The population does this just by flicking a switch.
This is how Democracy works....doesn't it?
I ask for opinions on numerous topics on this site to assist in project decision making. Perhaps you're right perhaps you're wrong but in the end I accept or reject what I consider useful.
And I always appreciate every opinion.
Are We Lost said
01:11 AM Aug 3, 2021
Richard, I completely agree.
Yes, Sky has a strong right wing bias, even stronger than the left wing bias of ABC and others. Whatever your source, if you listen to opinion articles there is always some inflexion to portray the outlet's views. If you watch/read news, it is politically biased. If you don't believe it you have been indoctrinated.
My news routine in the mornings is to pick out articles to read from ABC, then Sky News, then news(.)com(.)au. Putting the political bias aside it's surprising how when I get to the third source how often there are still articles of interest that were not on the other two. Then in the evening I watch Al Jazeera and Fox News, and sometimes Euronews, again, just selecting the articles of interest. Those give a good balance of left, right, local and international viewpoints. You may have noticed on other threads that I have pasted some charts on COVID stats. I like to get the actual data myself if I can.
When one news outlet says one thing, and another outlet says the opposite, I like to find out what the truth actually is. So if it's siginficant enough maybe I will look around to see if I can find out where the truth really lies. While Sky is mostly opinion pieces, I have not found any that are factually incorrect. Opinions I disagree with yes, but not incorrect.
If you read/watch one source you miss out on so much.
-- Edited by Are We Lost on Tuesday 3rd of August 2021 01:18:13 AM
Mike Harding said
08:45 AM Aug 3, 2021
As I said earlier, one needs to filter *all* news outlets even the august New York Times is not above a little economy with the truth:
-- Edited by Mike Harding on Tuesday 3rd of August 2021 08:47:10 AM
The Belmont Bear said
09:17 AM Aug 3, 2021
Sky News hasn't been a proper news channel for a number of years. Long gone are the days when you used to be able to push a button while watching Sky News and get the latest updates from every capitol city across Australia, the weather, sports results etc.
I tend to lean towards the conservative side of politics but I no longer watch Sky News as it has gone so far right it makes me cringe, the ABC other than its news service seems to have a similar bias in the opposite direction. I actually get my daily updates from the Apple News App which gives access to all the worlds different news organisations, its amazing how many ways you can read the same report depending on who is doing the reporting....anyhow the good thing about living in this country is that you get to choose which channel you want to watch (or believe).
BB
dorian said
09:37 AM Aug 3, 2021
The Belmont Bear wrote:
anyhow the good thing about living in this country is that you get to choose which channel you want to watch (or believe).
If my experience on this forum is any guide, it's evident that even us old folks are not well equipped to discern fact from fiction. Even those of us who know the truth may still prefer our own version of reality, so we filter out those information/disinformation sources that challenge our rigid mindsets.
The Belmont Bear said
11:50 AM Aug 3, 2021
Dorian thats 100% true but its not only 'us old folks' who are not well equiped to discern fact from fiction propaganda has been used since time began to sell different versions of the truth - which is probably obvious with whats been happening in the US during recent times..
The total media have a lot to answer for.
We hear very little good news, but lots of bad news which they think becomes good news.
As for FOX every night the Credlin,Bolt, Jones and Murray show all virtually cover the same news story.
The only good news these past couple of weeks has been Australia's excellent performance on the Olympics.
Oh!!! and the bad news re Co-vid has a little good news in it.
We have had our 2 A-Z and for us it should be mandatory so we get rid of these bloody lockdowns.
I really feel for all the private enterprise business and their staff.
A little off subject, but just my view.
Jay&Dee
Sky News Regional will no doubt take viewers from ABC regions.
Interesting to see what the comparable viewing numbers are over the next 3 months.
Sky News Regional | Sky News Australia | Sky News Australia
I just can't wait to hear from such an open minded line up of presenters ... NOT ... They won't lure this ABC viewer away from Aunty. LOL
Always good to have choices eh ;) Me, well I only have one say every few years at the Polling Booth, and use the rest of the time to enjoy myself.
All news sources (except *maybe* the BBC) have a slant, one simply needs to understand that and filter appropriately.
Have lived and worked in other interstate regional areas for nearly 40 years now.
You could not pay me enough to watch anything that has Sky in it's name.
Not ever.
I tried to give Sky a fair go, but it's not "news" and never will be news. It's just a continuous procession of opinion pieces by right wing talking heads, no doubt with Murdoch pulling the strings. I can't see any value for regional Australia.
Very well put.. I agree
No great loss. ABC is not focused on ratings. Plus all the smart viewers will quickly go back to the ABC. The ABC tends to report factual information so viewers can form their own opinions.
I dont know how much time I have left so dont want to waste my remaining life filtering out the dross from a known source of dribble and conspiracy theories. I have actually tried to watch a couple of stories on Sky but they all failed logic (and my BS detector) within a couple of seconds. Not going to try again.
Izabarack wrote:
Whichever news source you favour it's probably best not to take everything it utters as gospel.
I dont take the results in Peer Reviewed research papers without having a good look at the Method section.
Hi Richard
I am not sure that I have seen Sky News, I have certainly not seen Alan Jones on the telly, so perhaps I should not comment
But
It looks like they have been banned from YouTube for one week, for sprouting covid-19 misinformation
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-01/sky-news-suspended-youtube-for-one-week-covid-19-misinformation/100341386
I do not agree with anti vaxers, but there have been many horrible things left up on both platforms, very sanctimonius
Good to see responsible action to address irresponsible behaviour.
Fake News aptly describes their "profession" nowdays.
The whole world seems to have taken a very lamentable collapse
into a very sad place - don't know how the next generation will
ever enjoy the privileges and lifestyle we have enjoyed in the past.
It's all about MONEY and POWER now.
If you care to have Google as the arbiters and censors of what you may view that is...?
ItS far from being a news channel. Its a business that makes money in direct relation to its ratings. Its track record in being able to influence the Not-so-smart and the lonely in the community makes it a big deal when it can be argued that the mis-information it puts out is indirectly responsible for some of the spread of infection in the community.
Thank Goodness we have people, such as Izabarack, with the wisdom to take the time and trouble to protect those of us, less able, from ourselves.
Mate: there is a big difference between you and I: I have strong opinions on many subjects and often voice them but I never think I have the God-like powers to tell others what they may view, read or think.
Mike, a point you make so well.
I can add, also, that every audio and video device has an on/off button or remote that changes channels.
Simple.
here is a surprise
Sky News banned for 7 days for telling porkies
Bob
It's always good to listen to two or more opinions from various data sources about the many topics, and then be able to reinforce your own beliefs.
Governments do this every day with advisors.
The population does this just by flicking a switch.
This is how Democracy works....doesn't it?
I ask for opinions on numerous topics on this site to assist in project decision making. Perhaps you're right perhaps you're wrong but in the end I accept or reject what I consider useful.
And I always appreciate every opinion.
Richard, I completely agree.
Yes, Sky has a strong right wing bias, even stronger than the left wing bias of ABC and others. Whatever your source, if you listen to opinion articles there is always some inflexion to portray the outlet's views. If you watch/read news, it is politically biased. If you don't believe it you have been indoctrinated.
My news routine in the mornings is to pick out articles to read from ABC, then Sky News, then news(.)com(.)au. Putting the political bias aside it's surprising how when I get to the third source how often there are still articles of interest that were not on the other two. Then in the evening I watch Al Jazeera and Fox News, and sometimes Euronews, again, just selecting the articles of interest. Those give a good balance of left, right, local and international viewpoints. You may have noticed on other threads that I have pasted some charts on COVID stats. I like to get the actual data myself if I can.
When one news outlet says one thing, and another outlet says the opposite, I like to find out what the truth actually is. So if it's siginficant enough maybe I will look around to see if I can find out where the truth really lies. While Sky is mostly opinion pieces, I have not found any that are factually incorrect. Opinions I disagree with yes, but not incorrect.
If you read/watch one source you miss out on so much.
-- Edited by Are We Lost on Tuesday 3rd of August 2021 01:18:13 AM
As I said earlier, one needs to filter *all* news outlets even the august New York Times is not above a little economy with the truth:
NYT goes easy on China
NYT deletes evidence from its archive
Edit: typo
-- Edited by Mike Harding on Tuesday 3rd of August 2021 08:47:10 AM
Sky News hasn't been a proper news channel for a number of years. Long gone are the days when you used to be able to push a button while watching Sky News and get the latest updates from every capitol city across Australia, the weather, sports results etc.
I tend to lean towards the conservative side of politics but I no longer watch Sky News as it has gone so far right it makes me cringe, the ABC other than its news service seems to have a similar bias in the opposite direction. I actually get my daily updates from the Apple News App which gives access to all the worlds different news organisations, its amazing how many ways you can read the same report depending on who is doing the reporting....anyhow the good thing about living in this country is that you get to choose which channel you want to watch (or believe).
BB
If my experience on this forum is any guide, it's evident that even us old folks are not well equipped to discern fact from fiction. Even those of us who know the truth may still prefer our own version of reality, so we filter out those information/disinformation sources that challenge our rigid mindsets.
Dorian thats 100% true but its not only 'us old folks' who are not well equiped to discern fact from fiction propaganda has been used since time began to sell different versions of the truth - which is probably obvious with whats been happening in the US during recent times..
BB
Interesting article in The Age regarding this:
Age article
We hear very little good news, but lots of bad news which they think becomes good news.
As for FOX every night the Credlin,Bolt, Jones and Murray show all virtually cover the same news story.
The only good news these past couple of weeks has been Australia's excellent performance on the Olympics.
Oh!!! and the bad news re Co-vid has a little good news in it.
We have had our 2 A-Z and for us it should be mandatory so we get rid of these bloody lockdowns.
I really feel for all the private enterprise business and their staff.
A little off subject, but just my view.
Jay&Dee