Hope I'm not going over old posts, but I was amazed to find this.
This is really heartwarming - pay taxes and work all your life and
at age 65 instead of being revered by society, we get dumped on from
a great height.
Don't get hurt by falling off the ladder or doing other dangerous chores
around the house!! If you become incapacitated - too bad. We don't care
for you any more.
6.1 Under 65 years of age
when their access request is received by the NDIA (section 22(1)(a)).
If a prospective participant is 65 years of age or older when the access request is made, the NDIA must decide that they do not meet the access criteria.
The requirement to be under 65 years of age to become a NDIS participant recognises that the NDIS is part of a broader system of support in Australia, with the intention that people over 65 should access the aged care system.
-- Edited by Brodie Allen on Thursday 5th of August 2021 08:43:04 AM
Whenarewethere said
09:01 AM Aug 5, 2021
If you become incapacitated at 65 you are left to rot. Make sure you get it all sorted out by 64 years & 364 days.
I just looked at the calendar, I have a few years, but they come quick enough, then I am stuffed as I am reasonably fit at this stage.
Possum3 said
09:12 AM Aug 5, 2021
Also note that the "Retirement Age" has been lifted, and NDIS legislative restrictions have not been.
In NSW it is also quite an imposition that on any workers over the age of 65 becoming injured at work there in no obligation on Worker's Compensation Insurers to rehabilitate the worker, only meet immediate medical cost of the injury - the Employer can dismiss the Employee, that may be unable to work any further, in their chosen field.
Bicyclecamper said
12:11 PM Aug 5, 2021
If you are on NDIS, before you turn 65, you can remain on it, so long as you remain on the disability support pension. Have that info sent to me recently with my new annual plan.
the rocket said
02:55 PM Aug 5, 2021
Seen on youtube steady eddy (christopher widdows) just recently is having trouble getting the disability pension And he talks about the ndis. Worth a look. If steady is having trouble, god help the rest of us.
peter67 said
05:07 PM Aug 5, 2021
True that. Once you hit pension age you get chucked on the scrapheap.
Tony LEE said
08:12 PM Aug 5, 2021
Maybe need to investigate what is available before getting in too much of a lather.
Wizardofoz said
08:55 AM Aug 6, 2021
Yes, and if you work too hard and set up your complete independent self funded retirement, they not only discard you, they penalise you!!!
my wife is now in a Dementia care facility and I receive not a 'red cent' in government assistance so it costs me $5700 per month plus any extras!!! That is after it cost me $450,000 to buy the room, otherwise it would have cost $7200 per month!!!
the system is a joke as you lose no matter which way you go...meanwhile Politicians get all the 'rip offs' and retire on lifetime big fat pensions with 'benefits'. (&$#&)
Brodie Allen said
12:20 PM Aug 6, 2021
Tony LEE wrote:
Maybe need to investigate what is available before getting in too much of a lather.
Tell us plz.
Aus-Kiwi said
12:37 PM Aug 6, 2021
I guess because you qualify for seniors health card ? They think that your covered ? To a point you are but I guess not the same as NDIS ? Like that joke about doing away with a politician ? ( know what I mean ?) Go to jail . You get the best medical ! Even gender changes !! Meals , roof over your head , 3 meals a day. Servants etc etc even onsuite ! Whos running the asylum?
VK2FJW said
01:13 PM Aug 6, 2021
You forgot to add that in gaol you can get as much sex as you can "Tolerate" from Big Bubba!
Aus-Kiwi said
01:19 PM Aug 6, 2021
Careful thats another incentive to some ? Lol besides the gov is doing that outside !!
-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Friday 6th of August 2021 01:20:56 PM
VK2FJW said
01:23 PM Aug 6, 2021
Brodie, I am 64 in October I have multiple conditions that stop me from working, applied for the DSP but was rejected twice.
My wife is dying from Bile Duct Cancer, Centerlink have put me on Jobseeker where I don't have to look for work.
Bad back (4 discs and arthritis) bad shoulders, almost every joint in my body cracks when I move even my collar bones.
Can't get home help because I am too young, yes thrown on the scrap heap.
When lockdown ends I have to get modifications to my van to do free camping as $310/w doesn't pay all my bills if in a park.
The Government hates us but they bring in "Refugees" and immediately give them houses!
Are you as angry as me?
Aus-Kiwi said
01:54 PM Aug 6, 2021
Cant you be carer for your lovely wife ? Yes seems some get away all their lives ? When workers want assistance or help ? No way !! Sell your Cortina or Viva etc
peatop said
02:11 PM Aug 6, 2021
I was told to stop working after a serious injury in 2001, in 2004 or 2005 I applied for the dsp after the medical examination by the centrelink doctor who said "his condition will improve" I was knocked back and told to go on sickness benefits after seeing the same centrelink doctor who said "his condition will not improve" I was knocked back, my responce to the centrelink service person was "same doctor, opposing answers, can I use this information to apply for the pension again?" NO! "as you have been unsuccessful in you previous application you can't apply again" after going back to work and being in and out of jobs (couldn't cope full time work for long periods) I decided to go back on newstart with a certificate applied to centrelink in 2010 and they said "no this doesn't suit your condition we will put you on dsp I know absolutely nothing about the ndis as I never wanted to rock the boat especially after the now federal government tried kicking me of the dsp a few years ago.
Bicyclecamper said
04:04 PM Aug 6, 2021
I had a review for DSP recently, I had been previously told I would never have to be reviewed. They made me jump thru hoops again, then sent me a Letter, to tell me "They have "ALLOWED" me to stay on DSP", As if they were doing me a favor. I was born with something , that degenerates my bones, and will not stop until I die which is approx 3 years from now ( average age of death for these sufferers), but they kept on asking "Am I cured yet?". You cannot be cured of something that gives you a chromosome count of 47xxy, at birth.
-- Edited by Bicyclecamper on Friday 6th of August 2021 04:10:56 PM
dieseltojo said
01:09 PM Aug 7, 2021
There are thousand of folks work for all these gummerment departments. I reckon that individually it is fair to say no one cares. I mean it ain't personal.
If it was personal; whey did some fool send me a letter asking me at my age of 65, when they were appraising me for the pension,
"How much money did you earn In Germany prior to coming to Australia."
Now these are the same guys that have had all the 28 pages of stuff that I had filled in, complete with all details.....I mean I was 4 years old when I came to Australia....
Bicyclecamper said
04:01 PM Aug 7, 2021
Well how much pocket money did you get as a child?, we have to know this, to make sure you can get the right amount of money from us.
Brodie Allen said
07:38 PM Aug 7, 2021
It's only going to get worse as this china virus takes it's toll of
society. Look out for the virus' and the subsequent debt being
used as an excuse to introduce taxes and penalties like:
Inheritance tax
Gift tax
Death duties
and anything else that they can think of.
Won't affect the elite - they have their assets in overseas lockers.
and the big corporations pay no tax.
"Eat, drink and be merry, (and get the tug out) for tomorrow we die"
subaru said
03:09 PM Aug 8, 2021
NDIS is no different to any other taxpayer funded schemes,if YOU apply for it YOU will expect to be requested to jump through hoops to obtain it and sometimes be requested to jump through flaming hoops to retain it.Cheers.
-- Edited by subaru on Sunday 8th of August 2021 03:09:50 PM
Hope I'm not going over old posts, but I was amazed to find this.
This is really heartwarming - pay taxes and work all your life and
at age 65 instead of being revered by society, we get dumped on from
a great height.
Don't get hurt by falling off the ladder or doing other dangerous chores
around the house!! If you become incapacitated - too bad. We don't care
for you any more.
6.1 Under 65 years of age
when their access request is received by the NDIA (section 22(1)(a)).
If a prospective participant is 65 years of age or older when the access request is made, the NDIA must decide that they do not meet the access criteria.
The requirement to be under 65 years of age to become a NDIS participant recognises that the NDIS is part of a broader system of support in Australia, with the intention that people over 65 should access the aged care system.
-- Edited by Brodie Allen on Thursday 5th of August 2021 08:43:04 AM
If you become incapacitated at 65 you are left to rot. Make sure you get it all sorted out by 64 years & 364 days.
I just looked at the calendar, I have a few years, but they come quick enough, then I am stuffed as I am reasonably fit at this stage.
In NSW it is also quite an imposition that on any workers over the age of 65 becoming injured at work there in no obligation on Worker's Compensation Insurers to rehabilitate the worker, only meet immediate medical cost of the injury - the Employer can dismiss the Employee, that may be unable to work any further, in their chosen field.
Seen on youtube steady eddy (christopher widdows) just recently is having trouble getting the disability pension And he talks about the ndis. Worth a look. If steady is having trouble, god help the rest of us.
Yes, and if you work too hard and set up your complete independent self funded retirement, they not only discard you, they penalise you!!!
my wife is now in a Dementia care facility and I receive not a 'red cent' in government assistance so it costs me $5700 per month plus any extras!!!
That is after it cost me $450,000 to buy the room, otherwise it would have cost $7200 per month!!!
the system is a joke as you lose no matter which way you go...meanwhile Politicians get all the 'rip offs' and retire on lifetime big fat pensions with 'benefits'. (&$#&)
Tell us plz.
You forgot to add that in gaol you can get as much sex as you can "Tolerate" from Big Bubba!
Careful thats another incentive to some ? Lol besides the gov is doing that outside !!
-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Friday 6th of August 2021 01:20:56 PM
Brodie, I am 64 in October I have multiple conditions that stop me from working, applied for the DSP but was rejected twice.
My wife is dying from Bile Duct Cancer, Centerlink have put me on Jobseeker where I don't have to look for work.
Bad back (4 discs and arthritis) bad shoulders, almost every joint in my body cracks when I move even my collar bones.
Can't get home help because I am too young, yes thrown on the scrap heap.
When lockdown ends I have to get modifications to my van to do free camping as $310/w doesn't pay all my bills if in a park.
The Government hates us but they bring in "Refugees" and immediately give them houses!
Are you as angry as me?
I was told to stop working after a serious injury in 2001, in 2004 or 2005 I applied for the dsp after the medical examination by the centrelink doctor who said "his condition will improve" I was knocked back and told to go on sickness benefits after seeing the same centrelink doctor who said "his condition will not improve" I was knocked back, my responce to the centrelink service person was "same doctor, opposing answers, can I use this information to apply for the pension again?" NO! "as you have been unsuccessful in you previous application you can't apply again" after going back to work and being in and out of jobs (couldn't cope full time work for long periods) I decided to go back on newstart with a certificate applied to centrelink in 2010 and they said "no this doesn't suit your condition we will put you on dsp
I know absolutely nothing about the ndis as I never wanted to rock the boat especially after the now federal government tried kicking me of the dsp a few years ago.
I had a review for DSP recently, I had been previously told I would never have to be reviewed. They made me jump thru hoops again, then sent me a Letter, to tell me "They have "ALLOWED" me to stay on DSP", As if they were doing me a favor. I was born with something , that degenerates my bones, and will not stop until I die which is approx 3 years from now ( average age of death for these sufferers), but they kept on asking "Am I cured yet?". You cannot be cured of something that gives you a chromosome count of 47xxy, at birth.
-- Edited by Bicyclecamper on Friday 6th of August 2021 04:10:56 PM
There are thousand of folks work for all these gummerment departments. I reckon that individually it is fair to say no one cares. I mean it ain't personal.
If it was personal; whey did some fool send me a letter asking me at my age of 65, when they were appraising me for the pension,
"How much money did you earn In Germany prior to coming to Australia."
Now these are the same guys that have had all the 28 pages of stuff that I had filled in, complete with all details.....I mean I was 4 years old when I came to Australia....
society. Look out for the virus' and the subsequent debt being
used as an excuse to introduce taxes and penalties like:
Inheritance tax
Gift tax
Death duties
and anything else that they can think of.
Won't affect the elite - they have their assets in overseas lockers.
and the big corporations pay no tax.
"Eat, drink and be merry, (and get the tug out) for tomorrow we die"
NDIS is no different to any other taxpayer funded schemes,if YOU apply for it YOU will expect to be requested to jump through hoops to
obtain it and sometimes be requested to jump through flaming hoops to retain it.Cheers.
-- Edited by subaru on Sunday 8th of August 2021 03:09:50 PM