All of N S W IN LOckdown as of 5pm today 14th August
Craig1 said
08:09 PM Aug 14, 2021
I guessed it had to happen. Innocent country regions now tarred with the Glad hand brush.
Rob Driver said
08:35 PM Aug 14, 2021
Craig1 wrote:
I guessed it had to happen. Innocent country regions now tarred with the Glad hand brush.
Yes, her *gung ho* attitude in accepting the endless supply of Covid infected overseas travellers in her support for our Prime Minister has now bit her on the rear end.
Even a half wit would realise that while you keep bringing infected people into our country without adequate quarantine would only end in tears.
Don't tell me for one minute that the cost to our country from what is now happening is less than stopping the self entitled malingerers and those who, all of a sudden, need to come *back* to Australia is worth this cost to our businesses let alone our mental well being of the 25 million Aussies that were relying on our collective governments to protect us all.
FFS we are an island, it was not that hard.
Our leaders bowed and scraped to the the likes of Alan Joyce who cried poor mouth while, at the same time they were laying off staff without even considering national internal profits by keeping our country safe and operating within Australia without involving overseas arrivals.
QANTAS.
Queeensland and Northern Territory Air Service, if I am not wrong.
460 odd new infected people today in NSW and it will probably only get worse.
Lets hope we dont miss the last opportunity to lock everything down now so we can get on top of it. Being a *soft ***** just does not work. These people have Australia on a path to destruction for no reason than by their selfish attitude.
We just completed a Census in Australia but I was disappointed as to why we weren't asked do we want the federal people in control to continue importing Covid infected people into Australia.
I throw my hands up in total despair.
edit: spelling
-- Edited by Rob Driver on Sunday 15th of August 2021 09:22:59 AM
dorian said
06:36 AM Aug 15, 2021
Every day my blood boils when I think about that limo driver and the NSW government's mishandling of subsequent damage control. What makes me even angrier is that people are still travelling for dubious "essential" and "compassionate" reasons. Suck it up and stay at home.
Radar said
06:55 AM Aug 15, 2021
We are living in Queensland, our families our in NSW, I am totally lost for words.
The Belmont Bear said
08:10 AM Aug 15, 2021
Yesterday I did my daily walk along the Lake Macquarie foreshore at Warners Bay, I really thought that we would have more sense than those "idiots" in Sydney when it came to following the lockdown rules - obviously not. The number of people who were not complying by picnicing in the parks, camping on the shore with their jet skis and kayaks, boat ramps so full you couldn,t get another car or boat trailer in the place. people stopping and talking in groups without wearing masks, fast food, ice cream and cofee vendors set up in carparks causing line ups. The number plates and signage I saw on vehicles etc. suggested that many of them did not live within a 30km radius of the place. What really amases me is how the police who reguarly patrol along that foreshore can turn a blind eye to obvious breaches like dozens of cars and throngs of people gathered at the boat ramps or the more than 50 kids and young families hanging around the new skate park at Croudace Bay... maybe its all just becoming a little bit too hard for them to police..We can complain all we like about the governments failings or what someone else did to trigger this outbreak but from what I'm seeing we are our own worst enemy when it comes to trying to limit its spread..
BB
-- Edited by The Belmont Bear on Sunday 15th of August 2021 08:12:13 AM
Brodie Allen said
08:14 AM Aug 15, 2021
Rob Driver's post XX bloody TWO!!!
I'm in Queensland and we get all sorts of "immigrants" from the southern states when they are people of note like footballers, etc, but dying mothers are prohibited from seeing family.
Putrid political grandstanding and there's gonna be a bum bitten soon!!
We are living in Queensland, our families our in NSW, I am totally lost for words.
Why? I have kids and grandkids in Vic, NSW and W.A. It is what it is. Until we get the idiots taken out of society we will always be at the mercy of them. NSW only has its people and the govt to blame. Not all the people..just the selfish and oxygen thieves. Gladys has a bloody lot to answer for.
Whenarewethere said
09:03 AM Aug 15, 2021
Dicko1 wrote:
Radar wrote:
We are living in Queensland, our families our in NSW, I am totally lost for words.
Why? I have kids and grandkids in Vic, NSW and W.A. It is what it is. Until we get the idiots taken out of society we will always be at the mercy of them. NSW only has its people and the govt to blame. Not all the people..just the selfish and oxygen thieves. Gladys has a bloody lot to answer for.
My relatives are in England & other half in Germany. She goes to Europe very regularly, me less so. Last time in 2019 she flew into Perth & I drove from Sydney to pick her up & we drove back via the Great Central Road. I was in Tasmania in March 2019 seeing another branch of my family.
Both our relatives have got the vaccines they requested.
Neighbours in our block of units with their 3 & 1 year olds got a flight out of Sydney a week ago to see their relatives in the USA. They are planning to return in January 2022.
They said they had no issues getting the approvals. I have known them for a decade. They have let their rented unit on Airbnb. Already there has been two sets of holiday rentals. We own three units in our building & are stuck at home!
It is interesting seeing both sides of the coin . Half of us can't fart & the other half can let rip.
2020 did <800km, 2021 <300km. We have stopped spending & walk everywhere to avoid people as best we can.
Rob Driver said
09:18 AM Aug 15, 2021
This really cant get much worse,
I just hear on the news this morning that Gladys didn't even have the decency or respect for her people to announce the full lockdown on a media conference.
She reportedly announced it on *Twiiter and Facebook*
It is sad state when any government communicates with its constituents on social media as the sole supply of updates to policy.
The police are out there policing the rules and half the people aren't aware of the changes. This type of action all helps to support the people who wont stay home as they are denying the knowledge of the new rules.
I also note that Anna P has once again requested for the border to be moved to the Tweed River to facilitate easier movement for the border population. Gladys ignored her last year when the same was requested. Lets see what happens this time.
She should be ashamed of herself.
-- Edited by Rob Driver on Sunday 15th of August 2021 09:22:13 AM
Craig1 said
09:31 AM Aug 15, 2021
Just also heard that Rob, we dont do twit or b..book. Have not had anything from Service NSW either, they had been sending regular updates about Sydney.
HandyWalter said
09:31 AM Aug 15, 2021
And if you think 80% will set us free have a look at Israel. The fact is we need to look at this differently. In the first place (ie in March 2020) the issue was not enough beds and or ventilators for the sick. Now its all about the number who have caught the disease, the number of exposure sites, and finally the number of deaths. It is quite clear that 80% will not work. Even England has over 15K cases a day. The real issue is that we need to make sure that the vulnerable are protected, that the number of really sick have access to a hospital bed, and start to report deaths based on did they die of Covid or did they die because of Covid. Ie was Covid the final straw that tipped the person over the line. A cousin of mine died and it was reported it was Covid. In reality he had Cancer for over 2 years and it was rapidly progressing and he was also in his late 80's. Did he die of Covid as reported or because of Covid. These are the things we need to really know. Elderly still die of the flu but in 2020 and 2021 there has been a great reduction. Is that because we wear masks? Is it because we are all locked up? I dont know but I am almost convinced we will have to live with Covid for some time until we can get a vaccine that can eradicate it completely, rather than to try and suppress it.
Whenarewethere said
10:07 AM Aug 15, 2021
Walgett has no face masks or sanitizer.
We need to get in the primary school children lamington drive experts to run the government.
peter67 said
10:09 AM Aug 15, 2021
Just reading about two women who boarded a Qantas flight from Sydney to Melbourne on green area passes both covid19 positive, Qantas staff refuse to check for valid passes despite being asked to do so. GROUND THEM!!
Des and Jane said
11:28 AM Aug 15, 2021
I think the Eastern States should take a good long look at how Mark McGowan has handled things here in W.A
We are still relatively safe with his hard policies in place.
Dicko1 said
12:29 PM Aug 15, 2021
Des and Jane wrote:
I think the Eastern States should take a good long look at how Mark McGowan has handled things here in W.A We are still relatively safe with his hard policies in place.
Thats easy to say when you have a small population and no where near the travel requirements of Vic and NSW. Being isolated from the Eastern seaboard has been a huge help.. I seriously doubt that the 80% figure bandied about will not suffice if we want to try and get back to normal
-- Edited by Dicko1 on Sunday 15th of August 2021 12:47:35 PM
Rob Driver said
12:51 PM Aug 15, 2021
Dicko1 wrote:
Des and Jane wrote:
I think the Eastern States should take a good long look at how Mark McGowan has handled things here in W.A We are still relatively safe with his hard policies in place.
Thats easy to say when you have a small population and no where near the travel requirements of Vic and NSW. bEING ISOLATED BY DISTANCE IS A HUGE HELP AS WELL.
When this pandemic started we, as a country were isolated from the rest of the world by an ocean or two.
Did those in control take advantage of that?
No!
We had to bow and scrape to those that have insisted for the last 17 months that despite being told to come home, have not done so until the country that they were living in became overrun and overwhelmed as far as treatment and control has been concerned.
We had to endure political bun fights from both sides with each representative needing to get one up on their opposition on how good they were with contact tracing and leaving states open in the face of ever increasing numbers of the infected.
Now we are in a situation where 8 million people are in some form of lockdown and as I said above the financial and mental burden can not really be measured.
Don't start me on A Jo_yce and his company.
I wonder if the six thousand employees that he sacked might have been willing to check appropriate permits..
Maybe Mr Jo_yce wouldn't mind a crew of soldiers on each of his aircraft checking everyones credentials for safe travel.
The place to control the pandemic in Australia was at the international borders, not out in the community.
There is not one other country in the world that has been able to achieve results by flooding their respective countries with infected travellers.
-- Edited by Rob Driver on Sunday 15th of August 2021 12:55:25 PM
Whenarewethere said
02:20 PM Aug 15, 2021
Dicko1 wrote:
Des and Jane wrote:
I think the Eastern States should take a good long look at how Mark McGowan has handled things here in W.A We are still relatively safe with his hard policies in place.
Thats easy to say when you have a small population and no where near the travel requirements of Vic and NSW. Being isolated from the Eastern seaboard has been a huge help.. I seriously doubt that the 80% figure bandied about will not suffice if we want to try and get back to normal
WA will be stuffed if the government stops all the trucks from the east feeding them.
Dicko1 said
02:24 PM Aug 15, 2021
Whenarewethere wrote:
Dicko1 wrote:
Des and Jane wrote:
I think the Eastern States should take a good long look at how Mark McGowan has handled things here in W.A We are still relatively safe with his hard policies in place.
Thats easy to say when you have a small population and no where near the travel requirements of Vic and NSW. Being isolated from the Eastern seaboard has been a huge help.. I seriously doubt that the 80% figure bandied about will not suffice if we want to try and get back to normal
WA will be stuffed if the government stops all the trucks from the east feeding them.
So true. Eastern seaboard also if they shut down Sydney completely.
yobarr said
02:36 PM Aug 15, 2021
Des and Jane wrote:
I think the Eastern States should take a good long look at how Mark McGowan has handled things here in W.A We are still relatively safe with his hard policies in place.
Surely you jest? WA is more than 3 times the size of NSW,and has only 20% the population of NSW.Do you think that there would be more Covid transmission in WA if the ratio of people per square kilometre increased 15 times? With a population density 15 times that of WA there obviously is a much greater risk in NSW of the virus spreading.Simple logic.Spare me! Cheers
Aussie1 said
02:39 PM Aug 15, 2021
Whenarewethere wrote:
Dicko1 wrote:
Des and Jane wrote:
I think the Eastern States should take a good long look at how Mark McGowan has handled things here in W.A We are still relatively safe with his hard policies in place.
Thats easy to say when you have a small population and no where near the travel requirements of Vic and NSW. Being isolated from the Eastern seaboard has been a huge help.. I seriously doubt that the 80% figure bandied about will not suffice if we want to try and get back to normal
WA will be stuffed if the government stops all the trucks from the east feeding them.
Correct whenarewethere, And the eastern states will be financially stuffed well and truly if we in WA cannot continue our mining activities and keeping the East from going broke .
As we are currently doing. Along with our over contribution of GST.
I sure feel sorry for the sensible folks in the East, particularly in NSW. You certainly have a high percentage of morons over there.
So yes the Premier's (in particular the stupid NSW Premier) should take a leaf out of Mark McGowan's book. What a shameful record she has.
Whenarewethere said
02:54 PM Aug 15, 2021
We need all the mining revenue to build ever larger pork barrels!
Aussie1 said
03:00 PM Aug 15, 2021
Whenarewethere wrote:
We need all the mining revenue to build ever larger pork barrels!
Your time would be better spent lobbying for some control over the morons in the East. You see that's where the whole issue over there has gone "pear shaped"
Stay safe
dorian said
03:16 PM Aug 15, 2021
If Mark McGowan would run for premier of NSW, I might start voting again.
Aussie1 said
03:37 PM Aug 15, 2021
dorian wrote:
If Mark McGowan would run for premier of NSW, I might start voting again.
Oh dorian, Please don't even suggest that. We want him over here for the foreseeable future
Cheers
Tony Bev said
03:44 PM Aug 15, 2021
dorian wrote:
If Mark McGowan would run for premier of NSW, I might start voting again.
Funny you should say that, Dorian
Not many people know that Mark McGowan, was born and raised in Newcastle NSW.
He went to public schools in NSW, and then went to a university in QLD, long before he came to WA
I for one (an Australian living in WA), appreciate that he has kept WA, safe so far
Tony LEE said
03:59 PM Aug 15, 2021
I for one am deeply appreciative of the fact that Grey Nomads members are not running this country
peter67 said
04:25 PM Aug 15, 2021
You could do a lot worse...oh wait!
Aussie1 said
04:43 PM Aug 15, 2021
Tony Bev wrote:
dorian wrote:
If Mark McGowan would run for premier of NSW, I might start voting again.
Funny you should say that, Dorian
Not many people know that Mark McGowan, was born and raised in Newcastle NSW.
He went to public schools in NSW, and then went to a university in QLD, long before he came to WA
I for one (an Australian living in WA), appreciate that he has kept WA, safe so far
Well, thanks for letting the "cat out of the bag". Now the buggers in the East will try and have him returned
And yes, you, I and all the sensible West Aussies do really appreciate his efforts.
Cheers
dogbox said
04:48 PM Aug 15, 2021
dorian wrote:
If Mark McGowan would run for premier of NSW, I might start voting again.
if you don't vote you shouldn't really complain about who runs the state/country should you
Santa said
05:01 PM Aug 15, 2021
Tony LEE wrote:
I for one am deeply appreciative of the fact that Grey Nomads members are not running this country
I agree, lots of opinions in this thread, very little wisdom.
I guessed it had to happen. Innocent country regions now tarred with the Glad hand brush.
Yes, her *gung ho* attitude in accepting the endless supply of Covid infected overseas travellers in her support for our Prime Minister has now bit her on the rear end.
Even a half wit would realise that while you keep bringing infected people into our country without adequate quarantine would only end in tears.
Don't tell me for one minute that the cost to our country from what is now happening is less than stopping the self entitled malingerers and those who, all of a sudden, need to come *back* to Australia is worth this cost to our businesses let alone our mental well being of the 25 million Aussies that were relying on our collective governments to protect us all.
FFS we are an island, it was not that hard.
Our leaders bowed and scraped to the the likes of Alan Joyce who cried poor mouth while, at the same time they were laying off staff without even considering national internal profits by keeping our country safe and operating within Australia without involving overseas arrivals.
QANTAS.
Queeensland and Northern Territory Air Service, if I am not wrong.
460 odd new infected people today in NSW and it will probably only get worse.
Lets hope we dont miss the last opportunity to lock everything down now so we can get on top of it.
Being a *soft ***** just does not work. These people have Australia on a path to destruction for no reason than by their selfish attitude.
We just completed a Census in Australia but I was disappointed as to why we weren't asked do we want the federal people in control to continue importing Covid infected people into Australia.
I throw my hands up in total despair.
edit: spelling
-- Edited by Rob Driver on Sunday 15th of August 2021 09:22:59 AM
We are living in Queensland, our families our in NSW, I am totally lost for words.
Yesterday I did my daily walk along the Lake Macquarie foreshore at Warners Bay, I really thought that we would have more sense than those "idiots" in Sydney when it came to following the lockdown rules - obviously not. The number of people who were not complying by picnicing in the parks, camping on the shore with their jet skis and kayaks, boat ramps so full you couldn,t get another car or boat trailer in the place. people stopping and talking in groups without wearing masks, fast food, ice cream and cofee vendors set up in carparks causing line ups. The number plates and signage I saw on vehicles etc. suggested that many of them did not live within a 30km radius of the place. What really amases me is how the police who reguarly patrol along that foreshore can turn a blind eye to obvious breaches like dozens of cars and throngs of people gathered at the boat ramps or the more than 50 kids and young families hanging around the new skate park at Croudace Bay... maybe its all just becoming a little bit too hard for them to police..We can complain all we like about the governments failings or what someone else did to trigger this outbreak but from what I'm seeing we are our own worst enemy when it comes to trying to limit its spread..
BB
-- Edited by The Belmont Bear on Sunday 15th of August 2021 08:12:13 AM
Rob Driver's post XX bloody TWO!!!
I'm in Queensland and we get all sorts of "immigrants" from the southern states when they are
people of note like footballers, etc, but dying mothers are prohibited from seeing family.
Putrid political grandstanding and there's gonna be a bum bitten soon!!
What has the world come to?
Why? I have kids and grandkids in Vic, NSW and W.A. It is what it is. Until we get the idiots taken out of society we will always be at the mercy of them. NSW only has its people and the govt to blame. Not all the people..just the selfish and oxygen thieves. Gladys has a bloody lot to answer for.
My relatives are in England & other half in Germany. She goes to Europe very regularly, me less so. Last time in 2019 she flew into Perth & I drove from Sydney to pick her up & we drove back via the Great Central Road. I was in Tasmania in March 2019 seeing another branch of my family.
Both our relatives have got the vaccines they requested.
Neighbours in our block of units with their 3 & 1 year olds got a flight out of Sydney a week ago to see their relatives in the USA. They are planning to return in January 2022.
They said they had no issues getting the approvals. I have known them for a decade. They have let their rented unit on Airbnb. Already there has been two sets of holiday rentals. We own three units in our building & are stuck at home!
It is interesting seeing both sides of the coin . Half of us can't fart & the other half can let rip.
2020 did <800km, 2021 <300km. We have stopped spending & walk everywhere to avoid people as best we can.
This really cant get much worse,
I just hear on the news this morning that Gladys didn't even have the decency or respect for her people to announce the full lockdown on a media conference.
She reportedly announced it on *Twiiter and Facebook*
It is sad state when any government communicates with its constituents on social media as the sole supply of updates to policy.
The police are out there policing the rules and half the people aren't aware of the changes. This type of action all helps to support the people who wont stay home as they are denying the knowledge of the new rules.
I also note that Anna P has once again requested for the border to be moved to the Tweed River to facilitate easier movement for the border population.
Gladys ignored her last year when the same was requested. Lets see what happens this time.
She should be ashamed of herself.
-- Edited by Rob Driver on Sunday 15th of August 2021 09:22:13 AM
Walgett has no face masks or sanitizer.
We need to get in the primary school children lamington drive experts to run the government.
We are still relatively safe with his hard policies in place.
Thats easy to say when you have a small population and no where near the travel requirements of Vic and NSW. Being isolated from the Eastern seaboard has been a huge help.. I seriously doubt that the 80% figure bandied about will not suffice if we want to try and get back to normal
-- Edited by Dicko1 on Sunday 15th of August 2021 12:47:35 PM
When this pandemic started we, as a country were isolated from the rest of the world by an ocean or two.
Did those in control take advantage of that?
No!
We had to bow and scrape to those that have insisted for the last 17 months that despite being told to come home, have not done so until the country that they were living in became overrun and overwhelmed as far as treatment and control has been concerned.
We had to endure political bun fights from both sides with each representative needing to get one up on their opposition on how good they were with contact tracing and leaving states open in the face of ever increasing numbers of the infected.
Now we are in a situation where 8 million people are in some form of lockdown and as I said above the financial and mental burden can not really be measured.
Don't start me on A Jo_yce and his company.
I wonder if the six thousand employees that he sacked might have been willing to check appropriate permits..
Maybe Mr Jo_yce wouldn't mind a crew of soldiers on each of his aircraft checking everyones credentials for safe travel.
The place to control the pandemic in Australia was at the international borders, not out in the community.
There is not one other country in the world that has been able to achieve results by flooding their respective countries with infected travellers.
-- Edited by Rob Driver on Sunday 15th of August 2021 12:55:25 PM
WA will be stuffed if the government stops all the trucks from the east feeding them.
So true. Eastern seaboard also if they shut down Sydney completely.
Surely you jest? WA is more than 3 times the size of NSW,and has only 20% the population of NSW.Do you think that there would be more Covid transmission in WA if the ratio of people per square kilometre increased 15 times? With a population density 15 times that of WA there obviously is a much greater risk in NSW of the virus spreading.Simple logic.Spare me! Cheers
Correct whenarewethere, And the eastern states will be financially stuffed well and truly if we in WA cannot continue our mining activities and keeping the East from going broke
.
As we are currently doing. Along with our over contribution of GST.
I sure feel sorry for the sensible folks in the East, particularly in NSW. You certainly have a high percentage of morons over there.
So yes the Premier's (in particular the stupid NSW Premier) should take a leaf out of Mark McGowan's book. What a shameful record she has.
We need all the mining revenue to build ever larger pork barrels!
Your time would be better spent lobbying for some control over the morons in the East. You see that's where the whole issue over there has gone "pear shaped"
Stay safe
Oh dorian, Please don't even suggest that. We want him over here for the foreseeable future
Cheers
Funny you should say that, Dorian
Not many people know that Mark McGowan, was born and raised in Newcastle NSW.
He went to public schools in NSW, and then went to a university in QLD, long before he came to WA
I for one (an Australian living in WA), appreciate that he has kept WA, safe so far
Well, thanks for letting the "cat out of the bag". Now the buggers in the East will try and have him returned
And yes, you, I and all the sensible West Aussies do really appreciate his efforts.
Cheers
if you don't vote you shouldn't really complain about who runs the state/country should you
I agree, lots of opinions in this thread, very little wisdom.