Just came across caravan rollover and the elderly couple are ok i heard. They were travelling south down hill. Ended up on the edge on the North bound lane. Tragic end to their travells. A reality check for sure. Cheers Stewart
ill try and post picture but cant seem to by phone
Stewart said
12:27 PM Oct 4, 2021
No i cant seem to acess the gallery for pics abyone tell me how please
PeterD said
12:57 PM Oct 4, 2021
My way is to connect the phone to my computer and download them with a file explorer. It is much easier to post them from a computer than a phone.
jade46 said
01:18 PM Oct 4, 2021
Email the pics to yourself and open on computer
Whenarewethere said
01:49 PM Oct 4, 2021
If I have a larger photo & not near the computer to compress with Photoshop. I SMS to myself, download, & post that small image. Using an Android Motorola G7 phone, a few years old, with an extremely cracked screen!
Stewart said
04:32 PM Oct 4, 2021
i did it though dropbox and my laptop, cant upload pictures from my phone Thanks for your help Stewart
Ouch very lucky . Hope they are ok !! Often loss in concentration!
Tony Bev said
05:05 PM Oct 4, 2021
Happy that the elderly couple, are both OK, injury wise
Hope that we find out, the reason/s for the accident happening, so that others may avoid it happening to them
yobarr said
06:19 PM Oct 4, 2021
Tony Bev wrote:
Happy that the elderly couple, are both OK, injury wise
Hope that we find out, the reason/s for the accident happening, so that others may avoid it happening to them
Yeah,something strange there,as van is not too big,and car is D-Max,which is a solid,long wheelbased model that can safely tow a caravan up to about 3000kg ATM. As you say,it would be good if we were able to learn of the reasons for this falling over.Perhaps the owners,like so many caravanners,had little understanding of the importance of correct weight distribution? Perhaps the accident was caused by the two-tier solar panel on the front left? Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Monday 4th of October 2021 06:22:40 PM
Stewart said
06:29 PM Oct 4, 2021
Yes i dont know how it happened i heard it on the UHF as we got closer. I did not see the event. But i see the roof is severaly scratched so it looks it was a complete roll over. Maybe someone might have dashcam. Cheers Stewart
Warren-Pat_01 said
10:06 AM Oct 5, 2021
According to the Townsville Bulletin, "the rig was travelling south toward Ingham & was prevented from rolling down a steep ravine by the guard rails. It came to rest on the north bound lane." The photo shown in the paper indicates it was near a bend to the left.
Nothing further other than the "elderly" passengers sustained minor injuries. Note "elderly" people up here are over 65 years old!!
As yobarr said, loading is a major key - this is a new road but care needs to be taken at all times. It is far safer than the old one but it is far easier to "go faster" now!
My guess would be that the car was travelling a bit too fast, in the wrong gear (the dealerships say to tow in "D") & the tail wagged the dog.
Aus-Kiwi said
10:10 AM Oct 5, 2021
Zig when he should have Zagged ? Not a good balance and a little swerve is ALL it needs . Especially if your not 100% concentrating !
yobarr said
10:36 AM Oct 5, 2021
Aus-Kiwi wrote:
Zig when he should have Zagged ? Not a good balance and a little swerve is ALL it needs . Especially if your not 100% concentrating!
And not 100% experienced,or even 100% competent.How many people spend their lives driving nothing bigger than a Corolla,retire,buy the big flash car and van,and set sail to do "The Big Lap".And it all ends in tears.Not suggesting that this is the case here,but perhaps a special licence should be required to tow a trailer above 750kg,with restrictions on weight of van versus weight of car,like the restrictions we have for "P plate" drivers in Turbo cars? This might protect people from themselves,but already I can hear the howls of protest from the "I've been driving for 60 years,and never had an accident" brigade! Probably caused a few,but never been involved in one.If safety is of anybconcern, always the weight on the wheels of the car should be at least 10% greater than the weight on the van's wheels.Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Tuesday 5th of October 2021 10:51:45 AM
rgren2 said
10:41 AM Oct 5, 2021
Wonder if they were using a towball or DO35?
yobarr said
10:56 AM Oct 5, 2021
rgren2 wrote:
Wonder if they were using a towball or DO35?
Interesting! Looks to me that the car has gone R Sover at least once,as evidenced by the destroyed roof,but the van has simply fallen onto its side, as there appears to be no damage to its roof edges? This would suggest that a DO35,or similar,was being used.Cheer
travelyounger said
08:24 PM Oct 5, 2021
yobarr wrote:
Aus-Kiwi wrote:
Zig when he should have Zagged ? Not a good balance and a little swerve is ALL it needs . Especially if your not 100% concentrating!
And not 100% experienced,or even 100% competent.How many people spend their lives driving nothing bigger than a Corolla,retire,buy the big flash car and van,and set sail to do "The Big Lap".And it all ends in tears.Not suggesting that this is the case here,but perhaps a special licence should be required to tow a trailer above 750kg,with restrictions on weight of van versus weight of car,like the restrictions we have for "P plate" drivers in Turbo cars? This might protect people from themselves,but already I can hear the howls of protest from the "I've been driving for 60 years,and never had an accident" brigade! Probably caused a few,but never been involved in one.If safety is of anybconcern, always the weight on the wheels of the car should be at least 10% greater than the weight on the van's wheels.Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Tuesday 5th of October 2021 10:51:45 AM
I totally agree yobarr any one that has not at least held a MR license should have some driver training with any rig over 4 ton also its surprising how many can not reverse a caravan it should be mandatory.
Cheers
oldbloke said
10:44 PM Oct 5, 2021
rgren2 wrote:
Wonder if they were using a towball or DO35?
Your funny bugger.
TheHeaths said
10:47 AM Oct 6, 2021
travelyounger wrote:
yobarr wrote:
Aus-Kiwi wrote:
Zig when he should have Zagged ? Not a good balance and a little swerve is ALL it needs . Especially if your not 100% concentrating!
And not 100% experienced,or even 100% competent.How many people spend their lives driving nothing bigger than a Corolla,retire,buy the big flash car and van,and set sail to do "The Big Lap".And it all ends in tears.Not suggesting that this is the case here,but perhaps a special licence should be required to tow a trailer above 750kg,with restrictions on weight of van versus weight of car,like the restrictions we have for "P plate" drivers in Turbo cars? This might protect people from themselves,but already I can hear the howls of protest from the "I've been driving for 60 years,and never had an accident" brigade! Probably caused a few,but never been involved in one.If safety is of anybconcern, always the weight on the wheels of the car should be at least 10% greater than the weight on the van's wheels.Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Tuesday 5th of October 2021 10:51:45 AM
I totally agree yobarr any one that has not at least held a MR license should have some driver training with any rig over 4 ton also its surprising how many can not reverse a caravan it should be mandatory.
Cheers
Not pushing the licence argument either way, yes or no, but if a licence is required or legislated, then ALL drivers wishing to tow a trailer/caravan should be required to do it, no matter what other licences they hold.
Why suggest that? Well all I ever read is how a caravan/car combination is completely different handling wise to either a rigid truck, or an articulated truck, due to the trailers dynamics. As such, everyone should be trained in them.
As many say, licensing does not guarantee better outcomes, but one in, all in as far as I am concerned. That is based on the fact that many who talk about having a towing licence seem to exclude themselves from its requirements due to holding some higher licence.
If I have a larger photo & not near the computer to compress with Photoshop. I SMS to myself, download, & post that small image. Using an Android Motorola G7 phone, a few years old, with an extremely cracked screen!
i did it though dropbox and my laptop, cant upload pictures from my phone Thanks for your help Stewart
Click on
attach files . Upload pics off phone .
Happy that the elderly couple, are both OK, injury wise
Hope that we find out, the reason/s for the accident happening, so that others may avoid it happening to them
Yeah,something strange there,as van is not too big,and car is D-Max,which is a solid,long wheelbased model that can safely tow a caravan up to about 3000kg ATM. As you say,it would be good if we were able to learn of the reasons for this falling over.Perhaps the owners,like so many caravanners,had little understanding of the importance of correct weight distribution? Perhaps the accident was caused by the two-tier solar panel on the front left? Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Monday 4th of October 2021 06:22:40 PM
Nothing further other than the "elderly" passengers sustained minor injuries. Note "elderly" people up here are over 65 years old!!
As yobarr said, loading is a major key - this is a new road but care needs to be taken at all times. It is far safer than the old one but it is far easier to "go faster" now!
My guess would be that the car was travelling a bit too fast, in the wrong gear (the dealerships say to tow in "D") & the tail wagged the dog.
And not 100% experienced,or even 100% competent.How many people spend their lives driving nothing bigger than a Corolla,retire,buy the big flash car and van,and set sail to do "The Big Lap".And it all ends in tears.Not suggesting that this is the case here,but perhaps a special licence should be required to tow a trailer above 750kg,with restrictions on weight of van versus weight of car,like the restrictions we have for "P plate" drivers in Turbo cars? This might protect people from themselves,but already I can hear the howls of protest from the "I've been driving for 60 years,and never had an accident" brigade! Probably caused a few,but never been involved in one.If safety is of anybconcern, always the weight on the wheels of the car should be at least 10% greater than the weight on the van's wheels.Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Tuesday 5th of October 2021 10:51:45 AM
Interesting! Looks to me that the car has gone R Sover at least once,as evidenced by the destroyed roof,but the van has simply fallen onto its side, as there appears to be no damage to its roof edges? This would suggest that a DO35,or similar,was being used.Cheer
Your funny bugger.
Not pushing the licence argument either way, yes or no, but if a licence is required or legislated, then ALL drivers wishing to tow a trailer/caravan should be required to do it, no matter what other licences they hold.
Why suggest that? Well all I ever read is how a caravan/car combination is completely different handling wise to either a rigid truck, or an articulated truck, due to the trailers dynamics. As such, everyone should be trained in them.
As many say, licensing does not guarantee better outcomes, but one in, all in as far as I am concerned. That is based on the fact that many who talk about having a towing licence seem to exclude themselves from its requirements due to holding some higher licence.