Hi everyone.
In the process of deciding what type of bus to convert to motorhome and understand what is required to get certification to motorhome.
Can anyone in NSW tell me the cost of rego and CPT for a 12.5m motorhome 2 axle and 3 axle
Thanks
Possum3 said
07:03 AM Nov 24, 2021
Welcome to GN's us8camping,
Your information is too scant for a meaningful reply. But any bus can be converted to a Motor Home - From a VW Microbus up to a double decker english bus.
Weight of the unit determines Rego costs - That includes all fittings in bus.
Best speak to an Automotive Engineer as he is the one to Certify your project. Speak to Colin Young senior engineer at www.caravancouncil.com.au/.
Jaahn said
07:55 AM Nov 24, 2021
Hi
I did convert a small bus, Mercedes Sprinter, to a MH. It is a 2 axle but well under 4.5T so is not a Heavy Vehicle. To get it re-engineered I selected an listed engineer from the RMS web site and consulted with him and then he inspected it and issued a certificate. This was used to adjust the registration to the new category. As said the rego cost is mainly weight based.
I suggest you look on the RMS web site for information. It is not too easy to drill down there but a lot of what you need is there and you do have the option of ringing their technical department for clarification. It may not be productive to go to a desk as the people who know may not be based there. Certainly the list of approved engineers is on line and you can find one or more that is close to you and get their contact details. You must use one on the list and also with the re-weight certificate. I emailed a couple of engineers near me initially as they were all busy at that time and there was a wait with some.
The costs are also there if you have some basic knowledge of the weight and size. Buses are heavy and a solid wood fitout is very heavy also.
Thanks everyone for your replies.
so when certified as a motorhome in nsw the rego cost is solely on weight and not axles aswell? When registered as a bus there is a massive difference between 2 and 3 axles for the same weight.
deverall11 said
11:29 AM Nov 24, 2021
us8camping wrote:
Thanks everyone for your replies. so when certified as a motorhome in nsw the rego cost is solely on weight and not axles aswell? When registered as a bus there is a massive difference between 2 and 3 axles for the same weight.
Mate at the risk of stating the obvious, why don't you check with the mob who will take your money Service NSW. Stands
to reason they would be the best people to give you advice. Get it in writing in case there's an anomaly when the time comes to pay.
SoloMC said
12:07 PM Nov 24, 2021
deverall11 wrote:
us8camping wrote:
Thanks everyone for your replies. so when certified as a motorhome in nsw the rego cost is solely on weight and not axles aswell? When registered as a bus there is a massive difference between 2 and 3 axles for the same weight.
Mate at the risk of stating the obvious, why don't you check with the mob who will take your money Service NSW. Stands
to reason they would be the best people to give you advice. Get it in writing in case there's an anomaly when the time comes to pay.
Dont be silly. That just makes too much sense.
People will take the information gleaned from an internet forum instead of checking with the source provider
erad said
03:47 PM Nov 24, 2021
Have you ever dealt with "Service"NSW?. I have, and every time I go near the place, my blood pressure goes through the roof. Out of 5 people behind the counters, only 1, at times 2 people are actually "serving " the public. I received a letter from RMS a few months back telling me that since I had returned the number plates from my car, it was no longer registered and therefore could not be legally driven on the road. The plates were still firmly affixed to my car. It was the Saturday of a long weekend when I picked the letter up from our postbox. Fortunately, at the time we were in lockdown with Covid. I immediately tried sorting this issue out via the pone and internet but no go - "Service"NSW was not awake. Come Tuesday, I was down at "Service"NSW at 09:00 hrs, but was about 6th in the queue. 45 minutes later, I got to speak with a "Service"NSW person. It took a lot of convincing that the number plates were still on my vehicle. They said to bring the vehicle in to show them, but I told them that the vehicle was technically unregistered because they told me I had turned the plates in. I didn't want a fight with a NSW copper about that.... So they asked me to go home and take photos of the plates, which I did and returned to "Service"NSW, only to have to wait nearly an hour this time because only one person was dealing with the public by then. Eventually I got to speak with that person (and couldn't understand the accent) so eventually another "Service"NSW person came over to help. Finally, they said it was all good, but I still did not believe them and asked for a piece of paper which said that my vehicle was legally registered. I could then take the car out onto the road.
Yes - I know I could have driven MY car down to "Service"NSW and probably got away with it but I used my wife's car to avoid any nastiness with highway patrol. Now, what if I only had one car, and lived 50 km from "Service"NSW? They couldn't give a Sh1t. About 4 weeks later, I had a phonecall from a guy in "Service"NSW apologising for the disruption. This was in response to my putting in complaints via the internet about this mix up. This guy gave me approval to drive the car again. Alltold, I had spent nearly the entire morning in "ServiceNSW", mainly waiting but even when being served, they didn't have a clue as to what to do and had to phone Sydney to get instructions.
Years ago, I used to be sent overseas working, and often the registration on my car would expire whilst I was away. When I returned, I would get a roadworthy certificate from my friendly mechanic and then go to the RTA. They would come out and check the engine number, chassis number, the act that it had 4 pneumatic tyres and then take my money and issue me with a new set of plates for the car. Now, I have to go to a special mechanic and get a Blue Slip which costs a lot of money. The blue slip inspection checks the engine number, chassis number and that it has 4 pneumatic tyres. But the registration costs have not gone down by $65, and teh number of people 'working' behind the counter has gone from 3 persons to at least 5 now. "Service"NSW???
By the way, the Original Poster for this thread is going to really love the bill to register his motorhome. I strongly suggest that if you have the chance, register it in another state - the costs will likely be less that half that of NSW.
Jaahn said
08:39 AM Nov 25, 2021
Hi erad
Well yes actually I have dealt with Service NSW a couple of times recently. I found them good and even excellent one time when they fixed us up in 10 minutes tops, during covid and very pleasant and professional. So I would not criticise them from my experience. Sure they have ordinary people working there whose experience with every problem might be limited but just normal people making a living like you find most places.
Jaahn
Aus-Kiwi said
05:35 PM Nov 25, 2021
Had Fuso bus converted to motorhome , now have 8.5m motorhome the rego is about the same . CTP is lower than bus . $1100 for me . Not much more than car rego . Its the CTP cost most .
SoloMC said
06:26 PM Nov 25, 2021
I converted an old 11m coach in tassie and they decided that it was a 'panel van'. Same price as a normal car
deverall11 said
11:00 AM Nov 26, 2021
erad wrote:
Have you ever dealt with "Service"NSW?. I have, and every time I go near the place, my blood pressure goes through the roof. Out of 5 people behind the counters, only 1, at times 2 people are actually "serving " the public. I received a letter from RMS a few months back telling me that since I had returned the number plates from my car, it was no longer registered and therefore could not be legally driven on the road. The plates were still firmly affixed to my car. It was the Saturday of a long weekend when I picked the letter up from our postbox. Fortunately, at the time we were in lockdown with Covid. I immediately tried sorting this issue out via the pone and internet but no go - "Service"NSW was not awake. Come Tuesday, I was down at "Service"NSW at 09:00 hrs, but was about 6th in the queue. 45 minutes later, I got to speak with a "Service"NSW person. It took a lot of convincing that the number plates were still on my vehicle. They said to bring the vehicle in to show them, but I told them that the vehicle was technically unregistered because they told me I had turned the plates in. I didn't want a fight with a NSW copper about that.... So they asked me to go home and take photos of the plates, which I did and returned to "Service"NSW, only to have to wait nearly an hour this time because only one person was dealing with the public by then. Eventually I got to speak with that person (and couldn't understand the accent) so eventually another "Service"NSW person came over to help. Finally, they said it was all good, but I still did not believe them and asked for a piece of paper which said that my vehicle was legally registered. I could then take the car out onto the road.
Yes - I know I could have driven MY car down to "Service"NSW and probably got away with it but I used my wife's car to avoid any nastiness with highway patrol. Now, what if I only had one car, and lived 50 km from "Service"NSW? They couldn't give a Sh1t. About 4 weeks later, I had a phonecall from a guy in "Service"NSW apologising for the disruption. This was in response to my putting in complaints via the internet about this mix up. This guy gave me approval to drive the car again. Alltold, I had spent nearly the entire morning in "ServiceNSW", mainly waiting but even when being served, they didn't have a clue as to what to do and had to phone Sydney to get instructions.
Years ago, I used to be sent overseas working, and often the registration on my car would expire whilst I was away. When I returned, I would get a roadworthy certificate from my friendly mechanic and then go to the RTA. They would come out and check the engine number, chassis number, the act that it had 4 pneumatic tyres and then take my money and issue me with a new set of plates for the car. Now, I have to go to a special mechanic and get a Blue Slip which costs a lot of money. The blue slip inspection checks the engine number, chassis number and that it has 4 pneumatic tyres. But the registration costs have not gone down by $65, and teh number of people 'working' behind the counter has gone from 3 persons to at least 5 now. "Service"NSW???
By the way, the Original Poster for this thread is going to really love the bill to register his motorhome. I strongly suggest that if you have the chance, register it in another state - the costs will likely be less that half that of NSW.
Sorry you had that experience and many others including myself. This is not about what service you received or didn't but about getting the information the OP requires.
Your information is too scant for a meaningful reply. But any bus can be converted to a Motor Home - From a VW Microbus up to a double decker english bus.
Weight of the unit determines Rego costs - That includes all fittings in bus.
Best speak to an Automotive Engineer as he is the one to Certify your project. Speak to Colin Young senior engineer at www.caravancouncil.com.au/.
Hi
I did convert a small bus, Mercedes Sprinter, to a MH. It is a 2 axle but well under 4.5T so is not a Heavy Vehicle. To get it re-engineered I selected an listed engineer from the RMS web site and consulted with him and then he inspected it and issued a certificate. This was used to adjust the registration to the new category. As said the rego cost is mainly weight based.
I suggest you look on the RMS web site for information. It is not too easy to drill down there but a lot of what you need is there and you do have the option of ringing their technical department for clarification. It may not be productive to go to a desk as the people who know may not be based there. Certainly the list of approved engineers is on line and you can find one or more that is close to you and get their contact details. You must use one on the list and also with the re-weight certificate. I emailed a couple of engineers near me initially as they were all busy at that time and there was a wait with some.
The costs are also there if you have some basic knowledge of the weight and size. Buses are heavy and a solid wood fitout is very heavy also.
Good luck jaahn
Mate at the risk of stating the obvious, why don't you check with the mob who will take your money Service NSW. Stands
to reason they would be the best people to give you advice. Get it in writing in case there's an anomaly when the time comes to pay.
Dont be silly. That just makes too much sense.
People will take the information gleaned from an internet forum instead of checking with the source provider
Yes - I know I could have driven MY car down to "Service"NSW and probably got away with it but I used my wife's car to avoid any nastiness with highway patrol. Now, what if I only had one car, and lived 50 km from "Service"NSW? They couldn't give a Sh1t. About 4 weeks later, I had a phonecall from a guy in "Service"NSW apologising for the disruption. This was in response to my putting in complaints via the internet about this mix up. This guy gave me approval to drive the car again. Alltold, I had spent nearly the entire morning in "ServiceNSW", mainly waiting but even when being served, they didn't have a clue as to what to do and had to phone Sydney to get instructions.
Years ago, I used to be sent overseas working, and often the registration on my car would expire whilst I was away. When I returned, I would get a roadworthy certificate from my friendly mechanic and then go to the RTA. They would come out and check the engine number, chassis number, the act that it had 4 pneumatic tyres and then take my money and issue me with a new set of plates for the car. Now, I have to go to a special mechanic and get a Blue Slip which costs a lot of money. The blue slip inspection checks the engine number, chassis number and that it has 4 pneumatic tyres. But the registration costs have not gone down by $65, and teh number of people 'working' behind the counter has gone from 3 persons to at least 5 now. "Service"NSW???
By the way, the Original Poster for this thread is going to really love the bill to register his motorhome. I strongly suggest that if you have the chance, register it in another state - the costs will likely be less that half that of NSW.
Hi erad
Well yes actually I have dealt with Service NSW a couple of times recently. I found them good and even excellent one time when they fixed us up in 10 minutes tops, during covid and very pleasant and professional. So I would not criticise them from my experience. Sure they have ordinary people working there whose experience with every problem might be limited but just normal people making a living like you find most places.
Jaahn
Sorry you had that experience and many others including myself. This is not about what service you received or didn't but about getting the information the OP requires.