I would like to ask if any members have used a 2 or 3 Ring Gas Burner direct from a caravan bayonet.
My hope is to run a Gasmate 2 Ring Burner from the bayonet on a Jayco Journey.
This ring burner would be connected using a 3 metre bayonet hose.
Please let my know you thoughts.
Thanks and regards,
Jack
(There is one 2017 post on this subject which is a little inconclusive.)
TheHeaths said
03:51 PM Jan 30, 2022
Jack,
Others may be better able to advise, but I believe any burner/bbq/cooker operating from a vans bayonet fitting must now have flame out protection.
I suggest you check that out first.
Jack 19_61-2 said
04:04 PM Jan 30, 2022
Good point TheHeaths, I vaguely remember reading something like that.
Thanks
Jack.
Possum3 said
04:22 PM Jan 30, 2022
Ian is spot on regarding regulations regarding bayonet fitted to caravan - If your gas-ring isn't fitted with a gas thermocouple pilot valve, you may set up your ring directly from a regulator on gas bottle.
Jack 19_61-2 said
05:05 PM Jan 30, 2022
Thanks Possum3,
I think I will discard the gas ring burner idea, for insurance purposes if nothing else.
Cheers
Jack
oldbloke said
07:59 PM Jan 30, 2022
Are we all going to toss out our Baby Qs now?
Greg 1 said
02:39 AM Jan 31, 2022
One of the most stupid poorly thought through rules I have seen for a long time.
So I can't hook my Weber up to my bayonet which is on a direct line from my gas bottle regulator, but if I pull the same bottle off the drawbar and sit it alongside the hot barbecue I am ok.
Pure beaurecratic bs.
travelyounger said
04:44 AM Jan 31, 2022
Jack 19_61-2 wrote:
G'day All:
I would like to ask if any members have used a 2 or 3 Ring Gas Burner direct from a caravan bayonet.
My hope is to run a Gasmate 2 Ring Burner from the bayonet on a Jayco Journey.
This ring burner would be connected using a 3 metre bayonet hose.
Please let my know you thoughts.
Thanks and regards,
Jack
(There is one 2017 post on this subject which is a little inconclusive.)
Hi
I bought one from Bunnings and had constant blocking of the gas lines being cast iron
i got a replacement but still does the same thing.
Saying that the two burner ring does create a greater heat for example boiling large pots of water for crabs and prawns and it will burn or create lots of heat and black soot on the surface and your cooking gear.
It also uses a lot of gas and hard to regulate the flame as any wind will blow out or interfere with the flame.
I gave up on it and went back to the butane burner and the butane integrated frypan from the big green shed which is the best cooker I have ever had very much worth the hundred bucks price tag.
From memory plugging into the gas bayonet you will need an adapter as they have a different thread to other gas appliances.
Ringburners are an old school technology and not suited to general use in cooking but great if you need high heat but not trying to deter you from using one as it could work for you I still use it now and then
Cheers
Cheers
Jack 19_61-2 said
06:55 AM Jan 31, 2022
Thanks for your in-depth feedback Travelyounger. I think you have put the last nail in the coffin of my ill conceived project/idea.
I am really just trying to setup some outdoor cooking off the caravan bayonet to handle a large fry pan and enough heat for a normal size wok.
We are in-between vans at the moment, so I've got the benefit of having time on my side.
Much appreciated,
Jack
gdayjr said
09:20 AM Jan 31, 2022
travelyounger wrote:
Jack 19_61-2 wrote:
G'day All:
I would like to ask if any members have used a 2 or 3 Ring Gas Burner direct from a caravan bayonet.
My hope is to run a Gasmate 2 Ring Burner from the bayonet on a Jayco Journey.
This ring burner would be connected using a 3 metre bayonet hose.
Please let my know you thoughts.
Thanks and regards,
I will be using a twin burner type of cooker.
I have not used a BBQ for 5 years or so, and i don't see that changing, and will not be using one.
My cooker will be on a seperat gas bottle though, i will not be connecting anything to the bayonet that does not have a flame out protection fitted.
-- Edited by gdayjr on Monday 31st of January 2022 09:22:20 AM
KJB said
09:51 AM Jan 31, 2022
Jack 19_61-2 wrote:
Thanks for your in-depth feedback Travelyounger. I think you have put the last nail in the coffin of my ill conceived project/idea. I am really just trying to setup some outdoor cooking off the caravan bayonet to handle a large fry pan and enough heat for a normal size wok. We are in-between vans at the moment, so I've got the benefit of having time on my side. Much appreciated, Jack
If you are serious about Wok cooking you need a Rambo Wok Burner (approx. $230 delivered ...EBay) They are not big and cumbersome so no problem for caravanning. They come with a Regulator set for a higher gas pressure and deliver enough heat to "SEAR" rather than "STEW" (critical for Wok cooking..) . Self igniter included. Capable (quickly and when needed ) of putting out approx. 7 times the heat of a normal gas stove ring.
Needs to be connected to its own gas bottle.
Ideal for pan frying , boiling water and also for heating big pots used for crabs etc......
I have a Rambo and it has been the answer to cooking true Wok style ( seared not stewed )
KB
PS....I thought that this might be of interest seeing as you mentioned that you use a Wok.
travelyounger said
10:10 AM Jan 31, 2022
KJB wrote:
Jack 19_61-2 wrote:
Thanks for your in-depth feedback Travelyounger. I think you have put the last nail in the coffin of my ill conceived project/idea. I am really just trying to setup some outdoor cooking off the caravan bayonet to handle a large fry pan and enough heat for a normal size wok. We are in-between vans at the moment, so I've got the benefit of having time on my side. Much appreciated, Jack
If you are serious about Wok cooking you need a Rambo Wok Burner (approx. $230 delivered ...EBay) They are not big and cumbersome so no problem for caravanning. They come with a Regulator set for a higher gas pressure and deliver enough heat to "SEAR" rather than "STEW" (critical for Wok cooking..) . Self igniter included. Capable (quickly and when needed ) of putting out approx. 7 times the heat of a normal gas stove ring.
Needs to be connected to its own gas bottle.
Ideal for pan frying , boiling water and also for heating big pots used for crabs etc......
I have a Rambo and it has been the answer to cooking true Wok style ( seared not stewed )
KB
PS....I thought that this might be of interest seeing as you mentioned that you use a Wok.
It might get those large amounts of water boiling for the big muddies Ill check it out
cheers
Clarky 1 said
10:54 AM Jan 31, 2022
Greg 1 wrote:
One of the most stupid poorly thought through rules I have seen for a long time. So I can't hook my Weber up to my bayonet which is on a direct line from my gas bottle regulator, but if I pull the same bottle off the drawbar and sit it alongside the hot barbecue I am ok. Pure beaurecratic bs.
Stupidity at its best.
My van when new, came with those shutoff valves fitted to each gas bottle to shut off supply of gas if a leak occurs.
One of them lasted about two months using the stove in the van and the Weber Q on the bayonet and the other one lasted about 6 months.
Those valves might be good in theory but Chinese crap just doesnt cut it at all.
I run both Weber and Crab Cooker from the bayonet.
Brodie Allen said
11:02 AM Jan 31, 2022
Clarky 1 wrote:
Greg 1 wrote:
One of the most stupid poorly thought through rules I have seen for a long time. So I can't hook my Weber up to my bayonet which is on a direct line from my gas bottle regulator, but if I pull the same bottle off the drawbar and sit it alongside the hot barbecue I am ok. Pure beaurecratic bs.
Stupidity at its best.
My van when new, came with those shutoff valves fitted to each gas bottle to shut off supply of gas if a leak occurs.
One of them lasted about two months using the stove in the van and the Weber Q on the bayonet and the other one lasted about 6 months.
Those valves might be good in theory but Chinese crap just doesnt cut it at all.
I run both Weber and Crab Cooker from the bayonet.
Me too. If the manufacturer put it on the van, then use it.
Clarky 1 said
11:11 AM Jan 31, 2022
Cant use it if it shuts the gas supply off at the bottle.
Took them off and connected the pipes directly to the bottle at the POL connection.
No problem with the stove or the bayonet fitting from then on,
-- Edited by Clarky 1 on Monday 31st of January 2022 11:13:00 AM
Buzz Lightbulb said
11:34 AM Jan 31, 2022
I bought a Companion duel wok burner from Snowys to cook outside with a wok but we haven't yet used it. I have a bayonet fitting to connect to the caravan.
-- Edited by Buzz Lightbulb on Monday 31st of January 2022 11:35:04 AM
Jack 19_61-2 said
11:45 AM Jan 31, 2022
G'day Buzz,
They are a good unit. I have one for about 6 years, used it heaps and it never missed a beat.
Just realize that a bayonet outlet is limited by the regulator above the vans bottles.
So... do not use a webber in line with the webber regulator attached. Take it off....Or It will most likely be a bit starved for gas supply. Webber's are not to be used with in a van so external is fine....
Most Inline cast burners are designed to run direct off a bottle....not regulated. A small one may be Ok, but those larger three ringed affairs will be starved for supply as well.
Most rules for shut offs etc apply to internal use in the van. Not appliances used externally....
-- Edited by dieseltojo on Monday 31st of January 2022 02:23:51 PM
Cupie said
04:24 PM Jan 31, 2022
dieseltojo wrote:
Just realize that a bayonet outlet is limited by the regulator above the vans bottles.
So... do not use a webber in line with the webber regulator attached. Take it off....Or It will most likely be a bit starved for gas supply. Webber's are not to be used with in a van so external is fine....
Most Inline cast burners are designed to run direct off a bottle....not regulated. A small one may be Ok, but those larger three ringed affairs will be starved for supply as well.
Most rules for shut offs etc apply to internal use in the van. Not appliances used externally....
-- Edited by dieseltojo on Monday 31st of January 2022 02:23:51 PM
Interesting.
My cast iron two burner gas ring has never worked & just sits in the workshop ... has been there for 15 years or so.
Perhaps I will try it direct off a bottle.
Just a little further off topic, I have a gas ring that screws direct onto a small gas bottle. The Telstra Lineys used to use them to brew up. Its a beauty, but a bit scary.
For a BBQ in the van I reckon you can't go past the two burner Butane cookers. Maybe not as trendy as the Webers but no where near as heavy or bulky either.
Buzz Lightbulb said
11:08 AM Feb 1, 2022
Jack 19_61-2 wrote:
G'day Buzz,
They are a good unit. I have one for about 6 years, used it heaps and it never missed a beat.
If you are silly enough to use a Weber inside a van you deserve all you get.
SoloMC said
08:08 AM Feb 2, 2022
I hate all of those new fanged safety devices we have to use, so I too removed them.
I've even removed the air bags and seat belts from my car as well.
'I can look after my own safety' was something I heard many times by people
Buzz Lightbulb said
02:59 PM Feb 2, 2022
SoloMC wrote:
I hate all of those new fanged safety devices we have to use, so I too removed them. I've even removed the air bags and seat belts from my car as well. 'I can look after my own safety' was something I heard many times by people
I hope that you are joking? If so, an emoji would help.
oldbloke said
10:18 PM Feb 2, 2022
"Just a little further off topic, I have a gas ring that screws direct onto a small gas bottle. The Telstra Lineys used to use them to brew up. Its a beauty, but a bit scary."
Nothing scary about it. Been using one for over 40 years.
Whether you light the stove, oven, webber (doh) or small gas heater in the van. All exactly the same. People always get excited about this. Don't know why. They all simply burn lpg. They all give off the same fumes/gasses, none have a flue to the outside.
Ubique 68 said
04:37 PM Feb 9, 2022
As a follow-up: Weber state they are working on a retro fit. Spoke with local BBQ Galore today who called distributor for Ziggy-they too are working on a retro fit. No timeframe for either although Weber imply 'soon'.
OOPs his should have been on the gas bayonet post.
-- Edited by Ubique 68 on Thursday 10th of February 2022 02:47:14 PM
G'day All:
I would like to ask if any members have used a 2 or 3 Ring Gas Burner direct from a caravan bayonet.
My hope is to run a Gasmate 2 Ring Burner from the bayonet on a Jayco Journey.
This ring burner would be connected using a 3 metre bayonet hose.
Please let my know you thoughts.
Thanks and regards,
Jack
(There is one 2017 post on this subject which is a little inconclusive.)
Others may be better able to advise, but I believe any burner/bbq/cooker operating from a vans bayonet fitting must now have flame out protection.
I suggest you check that out first.
Hi
I bought one from Bunnings and had constant blocking of the gas lines being cast iron
i got a replacement but still does the same thing.
Saying that the two burner ring does create a greater heat for example boiling large pots of water for crabs and prawns and it will burn or create lots of heat and black soot on the surface and your cooking gear.
It also uses a lot of gas and hard to regulate the flame as any wind will blow out or interfere with the flame.
I gave up on it and went back to the butane burner and the butane integrated frypan from the big green shed which is the best cooker I have ever had very much worth the hundred bucks price tag.
From memory plugging into the gas bayonet you will need an adapter as they have a different thread to other gas appliances.
Ringburners are an old school technology and not suited to general use in cooking but great if you need high heat but not trying to deter you from using one as it could work for you I still use it now and then
Cheers
Cheers
I am really just trying to setup some outdoor cooking off the caravan bayonet to handle a large fry pan and enough heat for a normal size wok.
We are in-between vans at the moment, so I've got the benefit of having time on my side.
Much appreciated,
Jack
-- Edited by gdayjr on Monday 31st of January 2022 09:22:20 AM
If you are serious about Wok cooking you need a Rambo Wok Burner (approx. $230 delivered ...EBay) They are not big and cumbersome so no problem for caravanning. They come with a Regulator set for a higher gas pressure and deliver enough heat to "SEAR" rather than "STEW" (critical for Wok cooking..) . Self igniter included. Capable (quickly and when needed ) of putting out approx. 7 times the heat of a normal gas stove ring.
Needs to be connected to its own gas bottle.
Ideal for pan frying , boiling water and also for heating big pots used for crabs etc......
I have a Rambo and it has been the answer to cooking true Wok style ( seared not stewed )
KB
PS....I thought that this might be of interest seeing as you mentioned that you use a Wok.
It might get those large amounts of water boiling for the big muddies Ill check it out
cheers
Stupidity at its best.
My van when new, came with those shutoff valves fitted to each gas bottle to shut off supply of gas if a leak occurs.
One of them lasted about two months using the stove in the van and the Weber Q on the bayonet and the other one lasted about 6 months.
Those valves might be good in theory but Chinese crap just doesnt cut it at all.
I run both Weber and Crab Cooker from the bayonet.
Me too. If the manufacturer put it on the van, then use it.
Cant use it if it shuts the gas supply off at the bottle.
Took them off and connected the pipes directly to the bottle at the POL connection.
No problem with the stove or the bayonet fitting from then on,
-- Edited by Clarky 1 on Monday 31st of January 2022 11:13:00 AM
I bought a Companion duel wok burner from Snowys to cook outside with a wok but we haven't yet used it. I have a bayonet fitting to connect to the caravan.
-- Edited by Buzz Lightbulb on Monday 31st of January 2022 11:35:04 AM
G'day Buzz,
They are a good unit. I have one for about 6 years, used it heaps and it never missed a beat.
I gave it to the buyer of my last van.
I'm looking at something compliant with the new bayonet regulations, maybe this:
Wok Burner Cooker - LP Gas - Auscrown
Happy camping,
Jack
Thanks for advice John,
I would love a Rambo Wok stove, but as you know, we have to limit how much we cart around.
And, I really want to get away from lugging gas cylinders around. Fifty years of that is enough!
I may settle for something like this:
Wok Burner Cooker - LP Gas - Auscrown
Cheers,
Jack
Just realize that a bayonet outlet is limited by the regulator above the vans bottles.
So... do not use a webber in line with the webber regulator attached. Take it off....Or It will most likely be a bit starved for gas supply. Webber's are not to be used with in a van so external is fine....
Most Inline cast burners are designed to run direct off a bottle....not regulated. A small one may be Ok, but those larger three ringed affairs will be starved for supply as well.
Most rules for shut offs etc apply to internal use in the van. Not appliances used externally....
-- Edited by dieseltojo on Monday 31st of January 2022 02:23:51 PM
Interesting.
My cast iron two burner gas ring has never worked & just sits in the workshop ... has been there for 15 years or so.
Perhaps I will try it direct off a bottle.
Just a little further off topic, I have a gas ring that screws direct onto a small gas bottle. The Telstra Lineys used to use them to brew up. Its a beauty, but a bit scary.
For a BBQ in the van I reckon you can't go past the two burner Butane cookers. Maybe not as trendy as the Webers but no where near as heavy or bulky either.
Good to know. Thanks.
I hope that you are joking? If so, an emoji would help.
Nothing scary about it. Been using one for over 40 years.
Whether you light the stove, oven, webber (doh) or small gas heater in the van. All exactly the same. People always get excited about this. Don't know why. They all simply burn lpg. They all give off the same fumes/gasses, none have a flue to the outside.
As a follow-up: Weber state they are working on a retro fit. Spoke with local BBQ Galore today who called distributor for Ziggy-they too are working on a retro fit. No timeframe for either although Weber imply 'soon'.
OOPs his should have been on the gas bayonet post.
-- Edited by Ubique 68 on Thursday 10th of February 2022 02:47:14 PM