Ok, folks, we live in Logan City which is virtually a suburb of Brisbane. I am sure that you would be aware of the huge deluge of rain that has hit the southeast corner of our State and the flow on into NSW's northeastern region.
My recollection is that we have not experienced this sort of rain and flooding since the 1974 Floods, which saw huge areas of this region devastated beyond belief.
Climate change..... Nope, just mother nature doing what she does best. Which is causing heartache for many of our people in this great country of ours.
Our heart goes out to the people who have experienced their home cars and businesses badly damaged by this rain deluge.
Jay&Dee
Have you had the misfortune of being flooded????
86GTS said
04:54 AM Feb 26, 2022
I hope things dry out for you soon. We've had one flood incident.
Many moons ago, before we had children we were driving home along a freeway in an absolute deluge when we spotted a young mother with 3 small children broken down on the side of the freeway.
We stopped to help (no-one else was) & she said that she lived only about 5kms away.
Somehow we managed to crush them all into our red Italian sports car.
It was bucketing down as we took the ramp off the freeway.
She lived in the low lying suburb of Seaford that was formally a swamp.
The water on the road was about 6 inches deep as we dropped them off at their home.
As we headed back towards the freeway slowly the water got higher & our engine stalled as the car began to float.
I went to get out of the door but because of the water pressure I couldn't.
I climbed out of the window (manual winders back then) & floated our car up onto the nature strip to shallower water.
The rain eventually stopped, I dried the cars distributor out which took hours to do, the water subsided & we finally made it home about 4 hours after we would have if we hadn't have helped.
Wanda said
08:50 AM Feb 26, 2022
Not funny at the time, but, do you sit back now and have a little chuckle about what you had to do. Always a good feeling when you are able to help others, well done
We did a trip, our first 4x4, back in the 80s with sister inlaw and their 3 young kids. What a DISASTER, without going into all details, rain, broken arms, broken windows bah blah blah. At the time not funny, relations a bit frosty for a while after, but boy, what a laugh we have today looking back
Ian
Aus-Kiwi said
10:49 AM Feb 26, 2022
4 years drought now ? Yes weve had heaps in NSW too . The overcast days get to me ! The solar doesnt WORK !!
Buzz Lightbulb said
11:14 AM Feb 26, 2022
JayDee wrote:
...
Climate change..... Nope, just mother nature doing what she does best. Which is causing heartache for many of our people in this great country of ours.
...
Probably but hard to prove it disprove. The climate scientists have always said that climate change will cause more severe weather events. That now seems to be happening.
Cuppa said
11:55 AM Feb 26, 2022
I reckon you are all 'rain thieves' down there in SE Qld, pinching our wet season which is pretty feeble in comparison up here at Moreton Telegraph Station, Cape York.
-- Edited by Cuppa on Saturday 26th of February 2022 11:56:37 AM
yobarr said
12:50 PM Feb 26, 2022
Aus-Kiwi wrote:
4 years drought now ? Yes weve had heaps in NSW too . The overcast days get to me ! The solar doesnt WORK !!
Have you got Polycrystalline panels? Better in low light,I believe. Cheers.
the rocket said
02:05 PM Feb 26, 2022
Not as bad as 1974 floods. someone i knew, who lived at kenmore, if i remember correctly, had water and fish swimming in his lounge room. Havent heard of a problem at the four x brewery or whole factories being inundated or a boat being trapped on a bridge and they eventually had to sink it Or the city flooding.
i think this is similar to 2011 when my daughter wasin labour and had to cross flooded creeks to get to hospital. Told to go home till contractions closer. She refused. Had a daughter and named her summer. I call her summer rain And she is the light of my life. This rain brings back memories.
hold onto your bootstraps everyone. Today, our local aldi and chemist are shut And roads cut.
tomorrow is a new day n the sun will eventually shine again.
stay safe jaedee.
cheers. Rocket.
-- Edited by the rocket on Saturday 26th of February 2022 02:10:22 PM
-- Edited by the rocket on Saturday 26th of February 2022 02:12:04 PM
-- Edited by the rocket on Saturday 26th of February 2022 07:23:32 PM
Gaylehere said
09:58 PM Feb 26, 2022
In 1974 the Wivenhoe Dam didn't exist. That has made a big difference to that part of the country. In 1974 all of Queensland was just about under water so this is different, but that is no comfort to those who have lost loved ones, their homes and their businesses etc. We've taken out over 300mls Thursday, Friday, Saturday till 11.30am this morning in Toowoomba and it's been raining all day but not pouring. Take care all.
JayDee said
05:38 PM Feb 27, 2022
Absolutely true re the building date of the Wivenhoe Dam. Yes in 1974 houses all over the Brisbane region had water above not just the floorboards, but above the home ceilings. Friends of ours had a dual hit with their home completely underwater and their business likewise. Another mate's home on and of course overlooking the Brisbane River was also completely covered with water. I recall the front page of the afternoon paper (The Telegraph) had a picture of the Goodna Railway station where all you could see was the roof of the station.
One could debate the Climate Change issue, but 50 years ago, it was much similar to today's events.
Tomorrow should be a different day from those of the last 4 to 5 days.
"Don't go near the water." is a true statement.
Stay safe everyone Cheers
Jay&Dee
Whenarewethere said
12:35 PM Feb 28, 2022
yobarr wrote:
Aus-Kiwi wrote:
4 years drought now ? Yes weve had heaps in NSW too . The overcast days get to me ! The solar doesnt WORK !!
Have you got Polycrystalline panels? Better in low light,I believe. Cheers.
Are they in series.
Whenarewethere said
12:37 PM Feb 28, 2022
A bit of flood history:
Whenarewethere said
06:29 PM Feb 28, 2022
During the cleanup there will be one politician who doesn't hold a mop!
DMaxer said
09:44 AM Mar 1, 2022
He will be too busy WAWT. He has to organise a photo shoot of him standing in front of a map with a few defence personnel and SES staff looking on as he points.
Whenarewethere said
10:20 AM Mar 1, 2022
Photo op better the blisters!
DMaxer said
09:32 AM Mar 2, 2022
At last a little bit of good news for those poor people up in the north of the State. It seems for at least the next seven days they will not have to endure forced handshakes nor have the rescue boats taken up by the owner of a set of voluminous buttocks draped in high viz, holding some poor frightened animal that has recently been rescued by someone else who was not seeking fanfare, whilst furiously pointing at a map and looking directly at the nearest pre arranged camera.
Buzz Lightbulb said
01:03 PM Mar 2, 2022
Accoding to this report both climate change and La Nina have contributed to the east coast of Australia's deluge:
How unusual is all this rain we're having? The answer? Very
Off on a tangent. Coming down the Hawkesbury River, around Sydney & at foot in Blue Mountains, is 600 gigalitres a day, 0.6 of a cubic km of water, then has to escape via a narrow gorge Wisemans Ferry stretch. First Nations People have known this for thousands of years.
The new unfloodable bridge opened in 2020, which the residents before construction said will not be high enough, the government knew better. Flooded in 2021. Going under water again now!
When will government learn from the depth, wealth, experience of knowledge of local elders. Probably never as the brown paper bags are missing.
A bit of ancient history. Sydney once had two openings, through North & South Heads which fed Middle Harbour to past the Spit Bridge & North Harbour (where I live). The Sow & Pigs, a visble reef at low tide, was a sand bar from Eastern Suburbs to Middle Head, in effect Mosman. The ocean opening to Sydney was once through Bondi, now a massive sand bar covered in very expensive property, through to the main central harbour past the Opera House.
DMaxer said
11:02 AM Mar 3, 2022
When we were in the grip of Covid every news report showed someone getting an injection and then a cross to some unnamed laboratory where someone in a lab coat filled up vials and looked at them with a serious look on their dial. Now we have all this rain and flooding and every news report is some clown standing under an umbrella out in the pouring rain, a serious look on their face whilst nodding wisely, giving us the five finger point and informing us it is raining.
We are surely blessed.
Whenarewethere said
11:33 AM Mar 3, 2022
News articles will be flogged to death. Causing one to throw a brick at the TV.
But there is never any long term follow-up to see how things are going.
Watched Seven news yesterday afternoon. Reporters all over the place. one idiot asked a woman who's house was inundated, "How did you feel when you finally got to see your house?" Bloody good job for him that it wasn't me he was talking to.
They then kept returning to the camera that was focussed on the crane moored in the river just about willing it to break free. I am sick of the way that commercial channels present the news, they are not fit be called journalists, a profession that was once held in some esteem for accurate reporting.
SBS for me from now on
DMaxer said
10:50 AM Mar 9, 2022
The last week or so has been a real education for me as I was able to learn many things by listening to our fabulous elected officials. Firstly I learned that the ADF were not deployed whilst the Northern Rivers went under because "it was too dangerous". I wonder if the army of volunteers, many of whom were of and over retirement age, the thirty odd seasonal workers from the Fijian community, the four van loads of Sikh volunteers cooking hot food for anyone that called by and the everyday citizens of the area who risked their lives helping others in distress stopped to consider the danger. I doubt it, they just saw people in distress and acted.
The second thing I learned was that the Disaster Fund set up in 2019 with $4 billion dollars that has earned $800 million in interest has hardly been touched. The highly intelligent minister clarified the reason it has not been used. Her words "it is there for a rainy day".
The third thing I learned is that if you question why a deployment was not made at the first instance then that equates to a direct criticism of the actual defence personnel. Obviously, it is the decision of the personnel, no matter what rank, as to if and when they will deploy themselves. I always thought that it was a political decision to deploy the ADF but there you go, I learned something else.
Just when I thought that I could not learn anything more, I learned an additional thing this morning. It seems the deployment was not made ,( by whoever is to make that decision as no one seems to know) as the SES had not called for it. Apparently an organisation that is manned mainly by volunteers needs to do this. Imagine the issues if the SES Board is taken over by militants and they declare war on some other country. Before we know it the ADF will be in action.
All is not lost though. Today the great man and his personal photographer will be heading to the frontline, wildly cheered by his adoring public of the Northern Rivers. I expect that one of the top priorities announced will be the rebuilding of Gerry's furniture shop at public expense, probably from the Disaster Fund.
We are thoroughly blessed with these great thinkers of our time.
Magnarc said
01:54 PM Mar 9, 2022
DMaxer. Succinct observations of our life and times. (sadly) We are sorely in need of someone at the top of the parliamentary tree that can think beyond the next election. Don't hold your breath folks!
DMaxer said
05:36 PM Mar 9, 2022
I see the great man banned television cameras from his discussions with 20 chosen people in Lismore today out of respect for the suffering the locals have endured. He also chose not to meet with the locals or visit any of the devastated areas, I guess that was out of respect as well. His mate the deputy PM together with the Minister for Emergency Services and Shotgun Bridget are also showing great respect by not turning up.
We are blessed to have such respectful people running the show. I imagine the real reason is that he is still getting therapy for the reception he got in Cobargo where the bushfires hit, when he forced handshakes on people who weren't interested in seeing his happy snaps from Hawaii.
-- Edited by DMaxer on Wednesday 9th of March 2022 05:36:54 PM
-- Edited by DMaxer on Wednesday 9th of March 2022 06:34:42 PM
DMaxer said
04:50 PM Apr 3, 2022
I see a group of Vietnamese Buddhist monks have visited Lismore and donated $100,000 to the flood cause to help the poor people who have lost so much. This is after the wonderful Sikhs drove up from Melbourne in the middle of the flood and cooked hot meals free of charge for the locals.
No fanfare, no photo ops, just wonderful human beings.
Bicyclecamper said
11:00 PM Apr 3, 2022
Another flood due for the North Coast NSW from Wednesday, Lismore may miss it, but Byron, Ballina, all the way to Sydney, are looking at 300mm plus, so next weekend, those places will be in flood again plus some more new ones. I HOPE the Federal Government opens the Disaster Relief Fund this time, instead of sitting on it like they have for the last 5 years.
Wizardofoz said
05:45 AM Apr 4, 2022
This thread is a political spin off from the ABC...surely?!
Meanwhile, it was a magnificent sunny and warm day in Beautiful Kiama yesterday, the beach, like many others, has been badly eroded with sand cliffs now preventing access via many walk in tracks, nevertheless, it is great and life is just sensational, what a joy it is to live in this amazing Country.
-- Edited by Wizardofoz on Monday 4th of April 2022 05:52:26 AM
-- Edited by Wizardofoz on Monday 4th of April 2022 05:53:09 AM
Webmaster said
11:15 AM Apr 4, 2022
Hi all, Just a quick note to remind everyone to keep politics out of discussions. In our experience, politics always leads to bad feelings and ultimately, personal attacks. Thanks.
Ok, folks, we live in Logan City which is virtually a suburb of Brisbane. I am sure that you would be aware of the huge deluge of rain that has hit the southeast corner of our State and the flow on into NSW's northeastern region.
My recollection is that we have not experienced this sort of rain and flooding since the 1974 Floods, which saw huge areas of this region devastated beyond belief.
Climate change..... Nope, just mother nature doing what she does best. Which is causing heartache for many of our people in this great country of ours.
Our heart goes out to the people who have experienced their home cars and businesses badly damaged by this rain deluge.
Jay&Dee
Have you had the misfortune of being flooded????
Many moons ago, before we had children we were driving home along a freeway in an absolute deluge when we spotted a young mother with 3 small children broken down on the side of the freeway.
We stopped to help (no-one else was) & she said that she lived only about 5kms away.
Somehow we managed to crush them all into our red Italian sports car.
It was bucketing down as we took the ramp off the freeway.
She lived in the low lying suburb of Seaford that was formally a swamp.
The water on the road was about 6 inches deep as we dropped them off at their home.
As we headed back towards the freeway slowly the water got higher & our engine stalled as the car began to float.
I went to get out of the door but because of the water pressure I couldn't.
I climbed out of the window (manual winders back then) & floated our car up onto the nature strip to shallower water.
The rain eventually stopped, I dried the cars distributor out which took hours to do, the water subsided & we finally made it home about 4 hours after we would have if we hadn't have helped.
Not funny at the time, but, do you sit back now and have a little chuckle about what you had to do.
Always a good feeling when you are able to help others, well done
We did a trip, our first 4x4, back in the 80s with sister inlaw and their 3 young kids. What a DISASTER, without going into all details, rain, broken arms, broken windows bah blah blah.
At the time not funny, relations a bit frosty for a while after, but boy, what a laugh we have today looking back
Ian
Probably but hard to prove it disprove. The climate scientists have always said that climate change will cause more severe weather events. That now seems to be happening.
I reckon you are all 'rain thieves' down there in SE Qld, pinching our wet season which is pretty feeble in comparison up here at Moreton Telegraph Station, Cape York.
-- Edited by Cuppa on Saturday 26th of February 2022 11:56:37 AM
Have you got Polycrystalline panels? Better in low light,I believe. Cheers.
Not as bad as 1974 floods. someone i knew, who lived at kenmore, if i remember correctly, had water and fish swimming in his lounge room. Havent heard of a problem at the four x brewery or whole factories being inundated or a boat being trapped on a bridge and they eventually had to sink it Or the city flooding.
i think this is similar to 2011 when my daughter wasin labour and had to cross flooded creeks to get to hospital. Told to go home till contractions closer. She refused. Had a daughter and named her summer. I call her summer rain And she is the light of my life. This rain brings back memories.
hold onto your bootstraps everyone. Today, our local aldi and chemist are shut And roads cut.
tomorrow is a new day n the sun will eventually shine again.
stay safe jaedee.
cheers. Rocket.
-- Edited by the rocket on Saturday 26th of February 2022 02:10:22 PM
-- Edited by the rocket on Saturday 26th of February 2022 02:12:04 PM
-- Edited by the rocket on Saturday 26th of February 2022 07:23:32 PM
One could debate the Climate Change issue, but 50 years ago, it was much similar to today's events.
Tomorrow should be a different day from those of the last 4 to 5 days.
"Don't go near the water." is a true statement.
Stay safe everyone Cheers
Jay&Dee
Are they in series.
A bit of flood history:
During the cleanup there will be one politician who doesn't hold a mop!
He will be too busy WAWT. He has to organise a photo shoot of him standing in front of a map with a few defence personnel and SES staff looking on as he points.
Photo op better the blisters!
At last a little bit of good news for those poor people up in the north of the State. It seems for at least the next seven days they will not have to endure forced handshakes nor have the rescue boats taken up by the owner of a set of voluminous buttocks draped in high viz, holding some poor frightened animal that has recently been rescued by someone else who was not seeking fanfare, whilst furiously pointing at a map and looking directly at the nearest pre arranged camera.
Accoding to this report both climate change and La Nina have contributed to the east coast of Australia's deluge:
How unusual is all this rain we're having? The answer? Very
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-01/weather-explainer/100873014
And it's only going to get worse.
Off on a tangent. Coming down the Hawkesbury River, around Sydney & at foot in Blue Mountains, is 600 gigalitres a day, 0.6 of a cubic km of water, then has to escape via a narrow gorge Wisemans Ferry stretch. First Nations People have known this for thousands of years.
The new unfloodable bridge opened in 2020, which the residents before construction said will not be high enough, the government knew better. Flooded in 2021. Going under water again now!
When will government learn from the depth, wealth, experience of knowledge of local elders. Probably never as the brown paper bags are missing.
A bit of ancient history. Sydney once had two openings, through North & South Heads which fed Middle Harbour to past the Spit Bridge & North Harbour (where I live). The Sow & Pigs, a visble reef at low tide, was a sand bar from Eastern Suburbs to Middle Head, in effect Mosman. The ocean opening to Sydney was once through Bondi, now a massive sand bar covered in very expensive property, through to the main central harbour past the Opera House.
When we were in the grip of Covid every news report showed someone getting an injection and then a cross to some unnamed laboratory where someone in a lab coat filled up vials and looked at them with a serious look on their dial. Now we have all this rain and flooding and every news report is some clown standing under an umbrella out in the pouring rain, a serious look on their face whilst nodding wisely, giving us the five finger point and informing us it is raining.
We are surely blessed.
News articles will be flogged to death. Causing one to throw a brick at the TV.
But there is never any long term follow-up to see how things are going.
Which bank... not Westpac!
Maryborough temporary flood defence:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-03/flood-levee-saves-businesses/100876222
Photo ABC Wide Bay Johanna Marie
Watched Seven news yesterday afternoon. Reporters all over the place. one idiot asked a woman who's house was inundated, "How did you feel when you finally got to see your house?" Bloody good job for him that it wasn't me he was talking to.
They then kept returning to the camera that was focussed on the crane moored in the river just about willing it to break free. I am sick of the way that commercial channels present the news, they are not fit be called journalists, a profession that was once held in some esteem for accurate reporting.
SBS for me from now on
The last week or so has been a real education for me as I was able to learn many things by listening to our fabulous elected officials. Firstly I learned that the ADF were not deployed whilst the Northern Rivers went under because "it was too dangerous". I wonder if the army of volunteers, many of whom were of and over retirement age, the thirty odd seasonal workers from the Fijian community, the four van loads of Sikh volunteers cooking hot food for anyone that called by and the everyday citizens of the area who risked their lives helping others in distress stopped to consider the danger. I doubt it, they just saw people in distress and acted.
The second thing I learned was that the Disaster Fund set up in 2019 with $4 billion dollars that has earned $800 million in interest has hardly been touched. The highly intelligent minister clarified the reason it has not been used. Her words "it is there for a rainy day".
The third thing I learned is that if you question why a deployment was not made at the first instance then that equates to a direct criticism of the actual defence personnel. Obviously, it is the decision of the personnel, no matter what rank, as to if and when they will deploy themselves. I always thought that it was a political decision to deploy the
ADF but there you go, I learned something else.
Just when I thought that I could not learn anything more, I learned an additional thing this morning. It seems the deployment was not made ,( by whoever is to make that decision as no one seems to know) as the SES had not called for it. Apparently an organisation that is manned mainly by volunteers needs to do this. Imagine the issues if the SES Board is taken over by militants and they declare war on some other country. Before we know it the ADF will be in action.
All is not lost though. Today the great man and his personal photographer will be heading to the frontline, wildly cheered by his adoring public of the Northern Rivers. I expect that one of the top priorities announced will be the rebuilding of Gerry's furniture shop at public expense, probably from the Disaster Fund.
We are thoroughly blessed with these great thinkers of our time.
DMaxer. Succinct observations of our life and times. (sadly) We are sorely in need of someone at the top of the parliamentary tree that can think beyond the next election. Don't hold your breath folks!
I see the great man banned television cameras from his discussions with 20 chosen people in Lismore today out of respect for the suffering the locals have endured. He also chose not to meet with the locals or visit any of the devastated areas, I guess that was out of respect as well. His mate the deputy PM together with the Minister for Emergency Services and Shotgun Bridget are also showing great respect by not turning up.
We are blessed to have such respectful people running the show. I imagine the real reason is that he is still getting therapy for the reception he got in Cobargo where the bushfires hit, when he forced handshakes on people who weren't interested in seeing his happy snaps from Hawaii.
-- Edited by DMaxer on Wednesday 9th of March 2022 05:36:54 PM
-- Edited by DMaxer on Wednesday 9th of March 2022 06:34:42 PM
I see a group of Vietnamese Buddhist monks have visited Lismore and donated $100,000 to the flood cause to help the poor people who have lost so much. This is after the wonderful Sikhs drove up from Melbourne in the middle of the flood and cooked hot meals free of charge for the locals.
No fanfare, no photo ops, just wonderful human beings.
This thread is a political spin off from the ABC...surely?!
Meanwhile, it was a magnificent sunny and warm day in Beautiful Kiama yesterday, the beach, like many others, has been badly eroded with sand cliffs now preventing access via many walk in tracks, nevertheless, it is great and life is just sensational, what a joy it is to live in this amazing Country.
-- Edited by Wizardofoz on Monday 4th of April 2022 05:52:26 AM
-- Edited by Wizardofoz on Monday 4th of April 2022 05:53:09 AM
Hi all,
Just a quick note to remind everyone to keep politics out of discussions. In our experience, politics always leads to bad feelings and ultimately, personal attacks. Thanks.