On 11 November 1918, the guns of the Western Front fell silent after four years of continuous warfare. With their armies retreating and close to collapse, German leaders signed an Armistice, bringing to an end the First World War. From the summer of 1918, the five divisions of the Australian Corps had been at the forefront of the allied advance to victory. Beginning with their stunning success at the battle of Hamel in July, they helped to turn the tide of the war at Amiens in August, followed by the capture of Mont St Quentin and Pèronne, and the breaching of German defences at the Hindenburg Line in September. By early October the exhausted Australians were withdrawn from battle. They had achieved a fighting reputation out of proportion to their numbers, but victory had come at a heavy cost. They suffered almost 48,000 casualties during 1918, including more than 12,000 dead.
In the four years of the war more than 330,000 Australians had served overseas, and more than 60,000 of them had died. The social effects of these losses cast a long shadow over the postwar decades.
Today we remember these brave soldiers and also take a moment to remember what sacrifices our fathers made during their service in Vietnam.
I honour all that served in Vietnam and every other war.
"They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old;
Maybe we should have a good look at who provoked the conflict.
No war is good. The enemy are always mad, deranged, sub human or something.Back when this started there was a very powerful 'sense of If you're not with us you're against us' among the blue/yellow flag wavers in the Nato countries, among my friends too, so when I tried to point out to them the impact of the provocation & aggression shown by the US/NATO over decades, it didn't go down well, & the responses I got were as though I were acting as as an apologist for Putin, when what I was hoping was that if enough folk spoke about it, & remained focussed upon the fact that there are always multiple sides to every story, that talking might continue & bloodshed be avoided. My hope & optimism were sadly naive & wasted. In hindsight, by the time we heard about it, the path to war had already been set, & the finger pointing from both sides was coming from folk with blocked ears. What Putin has done is inexcusable, but so too is what Biden & the other Nato leaders have done , and what they all continue to do ensures ongoing death, destruction & untold suffering, always blaming the other - no better way keeping it going. Two big powers & a blue/yellow pawn in the middle. Thanks for posting these cuttings, there is more recognition for what they say now than there was at the beginning but saying it still carries risk of a backlash.
-- Edited by Cuppa on Tuesday 15th of November 2022 10:05:42 PM
Craig1 said
08:55 AM Nov 16, 2022
Well, hope it is only an Oops this morning in Poland, not 1939
Magnarc said
09:12 AM Nov 16, 2022
Congratulations, you have managed to subvert what was a tribute to our fallen, into an attack on NATO and the USA. You are, of course entitled to your opinion but, surely, Ivans post was not the place to do it? You advocate respect in some of your recent posts yet, you show no respect to those who gave their lives in two world wars. You couldn't even bring yourself to write the words, Lest we forget.
I am no apologist for war, I abhor it, but there are times when dictators who invade other sovereign countries have to be stopped and, if help is needed to stop it are we not obliged to provide it? Nato and Joe Biden did not start this mess, indeed, when Putin annexed the Crimea he was allowed to get away with it and no doubt this emboldened him to "go the whole hog".
If he is paranoid with the thought of NATO expanding in Europe, then are not his actions in Ukraine likely to achieve what he dreads the most?
Everyone on this forum are entitled to air their views, I certainly have no problem with that, but we should always consider whether our comments are suitable to the post that we are replying to.
-- Edited by Magnarc on Wednesday 16th of November 2022 09:15:29 AM
Mike Harding said
09:54 AM Nov 16, 2022
I apologise to the group if my post stirred things up, that was never my intention. I simply wanted to highlight that wars, sadly, are still happening and that there are some very brave and selfless people doing wonderful work in very dangerous conditions, the BBC article is about Ukrainian medics who work in field "hospitals" on the front line.
Ivan 01 said
10:32 AM Nov 16, 2022
Magnarc wrote:
Congratulations, you have managed to subvert what was a tribute to our fallen, into an attack on NATO and the USA. You are, of course entitled to your opinion but, surely, Ivans post was not the place to do it? You advocate respect in some of your recent posts yet, you show no respect to those who gave their lives in two world wars. You couldn't even bring yourself to write the words, Lest we forget.
I am no apologist for war, I abhor it, but there are times when dictators who invade other sovereign countries have to be stopped and, if help is needed to stop it are we not obliged to provide it? Nato and Joe Biden did not start this mess, indeed, when Putin annexed the Crimea he was allowed to get away with it and no doubt this emboldened him to "go the whole hog".
If he is paranoid with the thought of NATO expanding in Europe, then are not his actions in Ukraine likely to achieve what he dreads the most?
Everyone on this forum are entitled to air their views, I certainly have no problem with that, but we should always consider whether our comments are suitable to the post that we are replying to.
-- Edited by Magnarc on Wednesday 16th of November 2022 09:15:29 AM
Thank you Magnarc,
I read these posts yesterday and to be honest I was dumbfounded.
Probably hard to believe for some on here but I was lost for words.
You have said it as I wanted to.
It is about respect.
Thanks Phill.
Magnarc said
10:47 AM Nov 16, 2022
Mike, my post was not aimed at your comments. There was nothing wrong with your post, just the hijacking of it by others.
Plain Truth said
03:45 PM Nov 16, 2022
Magnarc wrote:
Mike, my post was not aimed at your comments. There was nothing wrong with your post, just the hijacking of it by others.
I was answering Mikes post on Ukraine,
I am a Pacifist I hate war.
Cuppa said
05:55 PM Nov 16, 2022
Plain Truth wrote:
Magnarc wrote:
Mike, my post was not aimed at your comments. There was nothing wrong with your post, just the hijacking of it by others.
I was answering Mikes post on Ukraine,
I am a Pacifist I hate war.
Plain Truth, I believe Magnarc's comments were aimed at me, when I intended no 'subversion' & honestly cannot understand how my post could be interpreted that way. I do not disrespect those who have made personal sacrifice in war, but I have no respect for those who wasted the lives of our citizens for reasons other than protecting our community. I realise that no-one likes the idea that in war lives are 'wasted', but suggest that many of our heroes suffered that fate. It doesn't make them any the less heroes, but on occasions when their heroism is 'used' to justify that waste I think it's wrong. No one here has done that and it is important to remember those who sacrificed their lives or their health. But part of that remembering must be the futility which created many of our heroes. The young boys who were cannon fodder. Their heroism different to VC recipients but no less worthy of remembrance. I have no personal connection to anyone 'lost' in war, & I'm thankful for that but I am very conscious of the need to know & remember the loss of all.
The initial meme posted by Ivan affected me. My initial impression was that it was a bit insensitive, but all the more powerful as a result. The juxtaposition to two very different beach scenes, to me spoke of the gulf of understanding between today & back then & it also talked to me about how lives were lost for what today could be seen as frivolous. I thought it was quite clever & forced those looking at it to think. It would not surprise me however if somewhere there were folk who thought it too was disrespectful, but I certainly didnt feel that. If posted by someone I expected to be disrespectful about the topic, perhaps I would have seen it differently?
If similarly anyone perceives that I have been disrespectful to the memory or the sacrifice of those who deserve to be remembered with reverence, dignity & appreciation or those with connections to them, on remembrance day then I apologise. I am sorry.
If I had posted 'out of the blue, unrelated to anything already in the thread ((which I would not have done), then I could accept I had been ignorantly disrespectful . I don't understand how my post differed from PT's ,which I held off responding to for an hour or so, to first see whether it would receive a backlash as has I think, now been levelled at me. There was none so I took that as it being acceptable to follow up that post within the context of the thread.
I'm sorry if I misjudged and if anyone would like to take the time to PM me with a polite & educative explanation regarding how my post differed I would welcome it.
-- Edited by Cuppa on Wednesday 16th of November 2022 06:10:20 PM
KevinJ said
06:47 PM Nov 16, 2022
I saw nothing ICuppa wrote:
Plain Truth wrote:
Magnarc wrote:
Mike, my post was not aimed at your comments. There was nothing wrong with your post, just the hijacking of it by others.
I was answering Mikes post on Ukraine,
I am a Pacifist I hate war.
Plain Truth, I believe Magnarc's comments were aimed at me, when I intended no 'subversion' & honestly cannot understand how my post could be interpreted that way. I do not disrespect those who have made personal sacrifice in war, but I have no respect for those who wasted the lives of our citizens for reasons other than protecting our community. I realise that no-one likes the idea that in war lives are 'wasted', but suggest that many of our heroes suffered that fate. It doesn't make them any the less heroes, but on occasions when their heroism is 'used' to justify that waste I think it's wrong. No one here has done that and it is important to remember those who sacrificed their lives or their health. But part of that remembering must be the futility which created many of our heroes. The young boys who were cannon fodder. Their heroism different to VC recipients but no less worthy of remembrance. I have no personal connection to anyone 'lost' in war, & I'm thankful for that but I am very conscious of the need to know & remember the loss of all.
The initial meme posted by Ivan affected me. My initial impression was that it was a bit insensitive, but all the more powerful as a result. The juxtaposition to two very different beach scenes, to me spoke of the gulf of understanding between today & back then & it also talked to me about how lives were lost for what today could be seen as frivolous. I thought it was quite clever & forced those looking at it to think. It would not surprise me however if somewhere there were folk who thought it too was disrespectful, but I certainly didnt feel that. If posted by someone I expected to be disrespectful about the topic, perhaps I would have seen it differently?
If similarly anyone perceives that I have been disrespectful to the memory or the sacrifice of those who deserve to be remembered with reverence, dignity & appreciation or those with connections to them, on remembrance day then I apologise. I am sorry.
If I had posted 'out of the blue, unrelated to anything already in the thread ((which I would not have done), then I could accept I had been ignorantly disrespectful . I don't understand how my post differed from PT's ,which I held off responding to for an hour or so, to first see whether it would receive a backlash as has I think, now been levelled at me. There was none so I took that as it being acceptable to follow up that post within the context of the thread.
I'm sorry if I misjudged and if anyone would like to take the time to PM me with a polite & educative explanation regarding how my post differed I would welcome it.
-- Edited by Cuppa on Wednesday 16th of November 2022 06:10:20 PM
I saw nothing wrong with your post. I think there are a few "princesses" on this forum. Just because three words aren't quoted, does not mean you have offended someone. Equally, I fail to see why, when the conversation morphs into something slightly off track, there is a problem. It happens in verbal conversations all the time. Get over it.
Ivan 01 said
09:14 PM Nov 16, 2022
KevinJ wrote:
I saw nothing ICuppa wrote:
Plain Truth wrote:
Magnarc wrote:
Mike, my post was not aimed at your comments. There was nothing wrong with your post, just the hijacking of it by others.
I was answering Mikes post on Ukraine,
I am a Pacifist I hate war.
Plain Truth, I believe Magnarc's comments were aimed at me, when I intended no 'subversion' & honestly cannot understand how my post could be interpreted that way. I do not disrespect those who have made personal sacrifice in war, but I have no respect for those who wasted the lives of our citizens for reasons other than protecting our community. I realise that no-one likes the idea that in war lives are 'wasted', but suggest that many of our heroes suffered that fate. It doesn't make them any the less heroes, but on occasions when their heroism is 'used' to justify that waste I think it's wrong. No one here has done that and it is important to remember those who sacrificed their lives or their health. But part of that remembering must be the futility which created many of our heroes. The young boys who were cannon fodder. Their heroism different to VC recipients but no less worthy of remembrance. I have no personal connection to anyone 'lost' in war, & I'm thankful for that but I am very conscious of the need to know & remember the loss of all.
The initial meme posted by Ivan affected me. My initial impression was that it was a bit insensitive, but all the more powerful as a result. The juxtaposition to two very different beach scenes, to me spoke of the gulf of understanding between today & back then & it also talked to me about how lives were lost for what today could be seen as frivolous. I thought it was quite clever & forced those looking at it to think. It would not surprise me however if somewhere there were folk who thought it too was disrespectful, but I certainly didnt feel that. If posted by someone I expected to be disrespectful about the topic, perhaps I would have seen it differently?
If similarly anyone perceives that I have been disrespectful to the memory or the sacrifice of those who deserve to be remembered with reverence, dignity & appreciation or those with connections to them, on remembrance day then I apologise. I am sorry.
If I had posted 'out of the blue, unrelated to anything already in the thread ((which I would not have done), then I could accept I had been ignorantly disrespectful . I don't understand how my post differed from PT's ,which I held off responding to for an hour or so, to first see whether it would receive a backlash as has I think, now been levelled at me. There was none so I took that as it being acceptable to follow up that post within the context of the thread.
I'm sorry if I misjudged and if anyone would like to take the time to PM me with a polite & educative explanation regarding how my post differed I would welcome it.
-- Edited by Cuppa on Wednesday 16th of November 2022 06:10:20 PM
I saw nothing wrong with your post. I think there are a few "princesses" on this forum. Just because three words aren't quoted, does not mean you have offended someone. Equally, I fail to see why, when the conversation morphs into something slightly off track, there is a problem. It happens in verbal conversations all the time. Get over it.
Kevin J.
It is about respect.
It is about the subject on the topic and not other events that we as Australians arent even involved in.
The reason for my first and second post was to show my respect for those who made the ultimate sacrifice.
How some of you others react to it is your business however some reactions have revealed some interesting character traits. Some are never wrong, even when they are.
Oh how our lives, yes all of them, could have been so different.
How about next 11/11 you start a topic along the lines of lets not respect or recognise Remembrance Day and that then should appease those who choose not to respect the fallen.
-- Edited by Ivan 01 on Wednesday 16th of November 2022 09:16:04 PM
I cannot agree with you on this subject, so I think that we will have to agree to disagree.
Kevinj said,
"I saw nothing wrong with your post. I think there are a few "princesses" on this forum. Just because three words aren't quoted, does not mean you have offended someone. Equally, I fail to see why, when the conversation morphs into something slightly off track, there is a problem. It happens in verbal conversations all the time. Get over it"
You too are entitled to your opinion. "Slightly off track" Kevin?. Oh well, great minds think alike I guess.
Craig1 said
08:15 AM Nov 17, 2022
Slightly back on track. Many who left here in 1914 & 1915 did not get home until 1919. A long tour indeed.
BasilB said
08:32 AM Nov 17, 2022
venerating the dead just leads to more dead. so there's that.
Mike Harding said
08:36 AM Nov 17, 2022
Craig1 wrote:
Many who left here in 1914 & 1915 did not get home until 1919. A long tour indeed.
My (great) Uncle Arthur got back from the Western Front, when still a young man, having been gassed and suffering shell shock. The rest of his life was ruined. Although he could walk his physical condition was bad and his mind was even worse. He was about 90 when he died - a living hell for around 70 years.
dorian said
08:53 AM Nov 17, 2022
We should all be watching Ukraine. Even though they're not "ours", Ukrainians are fighting our proxy war against global tyranny. What happens there will determine what happens in our own neighbourhood. Please don't be fooled by Putin's lies. The war has nothing to do with NATO -- it's just Putin's megalomaniacal attempt to Make Russia Great Again (is there a hat for that?).
By all means, let's not forget those who died in past wars, but let's also not forget those who are dying now.
KevinJ said
08:56 AM Nov 17, 2022
Ivan, your comment about next 11/11 indicates you only understand on/off, yes/no, for/against.
Life is not like that. Some people cheer when a goal is scored, others boo when a goal is scored whilst other remain silent when a goal is scored. Even amongst the silent people, there are three states, the silent agreeable, the silent disagreeable and the silent indifferent. Lets not crucify people who stay silent rather than cheer. Not everyone is an extrovert or someone who displays emotion easily.
Ivan 01 said
10:37 AM Nov 17, 2022
KevinJ wrote:
Ivan, your comment about next 11/11 indicates you only understand on/off, yes/no, for/against.
Life is not like that. Some people cheer when a goal is scored, others boo when a goal is scored whilst other remain silent when a goal is scored. Even amongst the silent people, there are three states, the silent agreeable, the silent disagreeable and the silent indifferent. Lets not crucify people who stay silent rather than cheer. Not everyone is an extrovert or someone who displays emotion easily.
Kevin,
My original post and its explanation invited nothing from anyone.
It was my post of respect for those who gave their lives to prevent a western world ruled with tyranny.
You and others decided to denigrate the tribute apparently because of the picture I posted. How would that be anything but visually saying how it was.
Do some research and note just how many good men lost their lives on that very day we landed at Gallipoli.
Just above I posted a picture of a field of poppys. I wonder will that be offensive?
If me and some others have to be classed as a *princess* to show respect on Remembrance Day then so be it.
As I said next Remembrance Day or any other day for that matter you could start your own topic to attract anyone who may feel the need to *boo* those who gave their lives so that you can live yours in the comfort and security that you have experienced while living in Australia.
Here, I will give you a title:
Remembrance Day, No Way.
I am amazed but not surprised at the attempt at an apology that is not really an apology at all and disappointed with your need to make your view and support so public on a topic that required no comment.
No one is crucifying anyone who wishes to remain silent.
Silence is a respectable choice in this instance.
-- Edited by Ivan 01 on Thursday 17th of November 2022 10:50:37 AM
Today is Remembrance Day.
On 11 November 1918, the guns of the Western Front fell silent after four years of continuous warfare. With their armies retreating and close to collapse, German leaders signed an Armistice, bringing to an end the First World War. From the summer of 1918, the five divisions of the Australian Corps had been at the forefront of the allied advance to victory. Beginning with their stunning success at the battle of Hamel in July, they helped to turn the tide of the war at Amiens in August, followed by the capture of Mont St Quentin and Pèronne, and the breaching of German defences at the Hindenburg Line in September. By early October the exhausted Australians were withdrawn from battle. They had achieved a fighting reputation out of proportion to their numbers, but victory had come at a heavy cost. They suffered almost 48,000 casualties during 1918, including more than 12,000 dead.
In the four years of the war more than 330,000 Australians had served overseas, and more than 60,000 of them had died. The social effects of these losses cast a long shadow over the postwar decades.
Today we remember these brave soldiers and also take a moment to remember what sacrifices our fathers made during their service in Vietnam.
I honour all that served in Vietnam and every other war.
"They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old;
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them."
Lest we forget
A huge debt that can never be fully repaid.
Lest we forget.
Lest We Forget. Amen
Aussie Paul.
Lest We Forget
BBC - Ukraine
Maybe we should have a good look at who provoked the conflict.
No war is good. The enemy are always mad, deranged, sub human or something.Back when this started there was a very powerful 'sense of If you're not with us you're against us' among the blue/yellow flag wavers in the Nato countries, among my friends too, so when I tried to point out to them the impact of the provocation & aggression shown by the US/NATO over decades, it didn't go down well, & the responses I got were as though I were acting as as an apologist for Putin, when what I was hoping was that if enough folk spoke about it, & remained focussed upon the fact that there are always multiple sides to every story, that talking might continue & bloodshed be avoided. My hope & optimism were sadly naive & wasted. In hindsight, by the time we heard about it, the path to war had already been set, & the finger pointing from both sides was coming from folk with blocked ears. What Putin has done is inexcusable, but so too is what Biden & the other Nato leaders have done , and what they all continue to do ensures ongoing death, destruction & untold suffering, always blaming the other - no better way keeping it going. Two big powers & a blue/yellow pawn in the middle. Thanks for posting these cuttings, there is more recognition for what they say now than there was at the beginning but saying it still carries risk of a backlash.
-- Edited by Cuppa on Tuesday 15th of November 2022 10:05:42 PM
Congratulations, you have managed to subvert what was a tribute to our fallen, into an attack on NATO and the USA. You are, of course entitled to your opinion but, surely, Ivans post was not the place to do it? You advocate respect in some of your recent posts yet, you show no respect to those who gave their lives in two world wars. You couldn't even bring yourself to write the words, Lest we forget.
I am no apologist for war, I abhor it, but there are times when dictators who invade other sovereign countries have to be stopped and, if help is needed to stop it are we not obliged to provide it? Nato and Joe Biden did not start this mess, indeed, when Putin annexed the Crimea he was allowed to get away with it and no doubt this emboldened him to "go the whole hog".
If he is paranoid with the thought of NATO expanding in Europe, then are not his actions in Ukraine likely to achieve what he dreads the most?
Everyone on this forum are entitled to air their views, I certainly have no problem with that, but we should always consider whether our comments are suitable to the post that we are replying to.
-- Edited by Magnarc on Wednesday 16th of November 2022 09:15:29 AM
I apologise to the group if my post stirred things up, that was never my intention. I simply wanted to highlight that wars, sadly, are still happening and that there are some very brave and selfless people doing wonderful work in very dangerous conditions, the BBC article is about Ukrainian medics who work in field "hospitals" on the front line.
Thank you Magnarc,
I read these posts yesterday and to be honest I was dumbfounded.
Probably hard to believe for some on here but I was lost for words.
You have said it as I wanted to.
It is about respect.
Thanks Phill.
Mike, my post was not aimed at your comments. There was nothing wrong with your post, just the hijacking of it by others.
I was answering Mikes post on Ukraine,
I am a Pacifist I hate war.
Plain Truth, I believe Magnarc's comments were aimed at me, when I intended no 'subversion' & honestly cannot understand how my post could be interpreted that way. I do not disrespect those who have made personal sacrifice in war, but I have no respect for those who wasted the lives of our citizens for reasons other than protecting our community. I realise that no-one likes the idea that in war lives are 'wasted', but suggest that many of our heroes suffered that fate. It doesn't make them any the less heroes, but on occasions when their heroism is 'used' to justify that waste I think it's wrong. No one here has done that and it is important to remember those who sacrificed their lives or their health. But part of that remembering must be the futility which created many of our heroes. The young boys who were cannon fodder. Their heroism different to VC recipients but no less worthy of remembrance. I have no personal connection to anyone 'lost' in war, & I'm thankful for that but I am very conscious of the need to know & remember the loss of all.
The initial meme posted by Ivan affected me. My initial impression was that it was a bit insensitive, but all the more powerful as a result. The juxtaposition to two very different beach scenes, to me spoke of the gulf of understanding between today & back then & it also talked to me about how lives were lost for what today could be seen as frivolous. I thought it was quite clever & forced those looking at it to think. It would not surprise me however if somewhere there were folk who thought it too was disrespectful, but I certainly didnt feel that. If posted by someone I expected to be disrespectful about the topic, perhaps I would have seen it differently?
If similarly anyone perceives that I have been disrespectful to the memory or the sacrifice of those who deserve to be remembered with reverence, dignity & appreciation or those with connections to them, on remembrance day then I apologise. I am sorry.
If I had posted 'out of the blue, unrelated to anything already in the thread ((which I would not have done), then I could accept I had been ignorantly disrespectful . I don't understand how my post differed from PT's ,which I held off responding to for an hour or so, to first see whether it would receive a backlash as has I think, now been levelled at me. There was none so I took that as it being acceptable to follow up that post within the context of the thread.
I'm sorry if I misjudged and if anyone would like to take the time to PM me with a polite & educative explanation regarding how my post differed I would welcome it.
-- Edited by Cuppa on Wednesday 16th of November 2022 06:10:20 PM
I saw nothing wrong with your post. I think there are a few "princesses" on this forum. Just because three words aren't quoted, does not mean you have offended someone. Equally, I fail to see why, when the conversation morphs into something slightly off track, there is a problem. It happens in verbal conversations all the time. Get over it.
Kevin J.
It is about respect.
It is about the subject on the topic and not other events that we as Australians arent even involved in.
The reason for my first and second post was to show my respect for those who made the ultimate sacrifice.
How some of you others react to it is your business however some reactions have revealed some interesting character traits. Some are never wrong, even when they are.
Oh how our lives, yes all of them, could have been so different.
How about next 11/11 you start a topic along the lines of lets not respect or recognise Remembrance Day and that then should appease those who choose not to respect the fallen.
-- Edited by Ivan 01 on Wednesday 16th of November 2022 09:16:04 PM
Cuppa,
I cannot agree with you on this subject, so I think that we will have to agree to disagree.
Kevinj said,
"I saw nothing wrong with your post. I think there are a few "princesses" on this forum. Just because three words aren't quoted, does not mean you have offended someone. Equally, I fail to see why, when the conversation morphs into something slightly off track, there is a problem. It happens in verbal conversations all the time. Get over it"
You too are entitled to your opinion. "Slightly off track" Kevin?. Oh well, great minds think alike I guess.
venerating the dead just leads to more dead. so there's that.
My (great) Uncle Arthur got back from the Western Front, when still a young man, having been gassed and suffering shell shock. The rest of his life was ruined. Although he could walk his physical condition was bad and his mind was even worse. He was about 90 when he died - a living hell for around 70 years.
By all means, let's not forget those who died in past wars, but let's also not forget those who are dying now.
Ivan, your comment about next 11/11 indicates you only understand on/off, yes/no, for/against.
Life is not like that. Some people cheer when a goal is scored, others boo when a goal is scored whilst other remain silent when a goal is scored. Even amongst the silent people, there are three states, the silent agreeable, the silent disagreeable and the silent indifferent. Lets not crucify people who stay silent rather than cheer. Not everyone is an extrovert or someone who displays emotion easily.
Kevin,
My original post and its explanation invited nothing from anyone.
It was my post of respect for those who gave their lives to prevent a western world ruled with tyranny.
You and others decided to denigrate the tribute apparently because of the picture I posted. How would that be anything but visually saying how it was.
Do some research and note just how many good men lost their lives on that very day we landed at Gallipoli.
Just above I posted a picture of a field of poppys. I wonder will that be offensive?
If me and some others have to be classed as a *princess* to show respect on Remembrance Day then so be it.
As I said next Remembrance Day or any other day for that matter you could start your own topic to attract anyone who may feel the need to *boo* those who gave their lives so that you can live yours in the comfort and security that you have experienced while living in Australia.
Here, I will give you a title:
Remembrance Day, No Way.
I am amazed but not surprised at the attempt at an apology that is not really an apology at all and disappointed with your need to make your view and support so public on a topic that required no comment.
No one is crucifying anyone who wishes to remain silent.
Silence is a respectable choice in this instance.
-- Edited by Ivan 01 on Thursday 17th of November 2022 10:50:37 AM