are we supposed to put some chemicals in the grey water tank.
if yes recommendations please
travelyounger said
10:33 PM Nov 18, 2022
No you do not need to but I always flush it out and pour some bleach in the tank while driving and then dump it as after a bit of use the smell will travel up the pipes
Cheers
Tony Bev said
10:54 PM Nov 18, 2022
Short answer is no, I have never put any chemicals into my grey water tank
Two reasons
1. I have Hepvo (one way) valves, on both the kitchen sink, and the shower/wash sink outlets
this ensures that no smells will return to the living areas, from the grey water tank
2. I empty the grey water tank, as soon as possible, (before any smells arrive)
I use the water, after it has cooled, to give the trees a drink
Note that after 24 hours, the grey water turns to black water, and should be emptied in a dump point
maids said
11:53 PM Nov 18, 2022
how can we tell if there are valves on the system
Tony Bev said
12:06 AM Nov 19, 2022
maids wrote:
how can we tell if there are valves on the system
They look like this from the outside, just follow the pipe/s which go into the grey water tank
Blues Man said
06:31 AM Nov 19, 2022
Hi Maids , we use white vinegar in our grey water tanks , it's nice and cheap and it also ensures that the sensors are clean.
We have been doing that for a lot of years now and have never had any problems.
Cheers.
Mike Harding said
07:20 AM Nov 19, 2022
Blues Man wrote:
we use white vinegar in our grey water tanks , it's nice and cheap and it also ensures that the sensors are clean.
Good idea. I use to use it instead of the "rinse aid" rubbish in my automatic washing machine, not only did it restore the ph balance from the washing powder but it kept the machine clean.
I often use it as a cleaner for surfaces I don't wish to use chemical cleaners on.
Dougwe said
07:50 AM Nov 19, 2022
I three, use white Vinegar, a mug full, in fact, it is actually cleaning vinegar or double strength.
I also use it in Toot canister and leave in back of car for a day while driving around then empty. Also, and as well even, I use a cup full in final rinse of public washing machines. That's after I have wiped the bowl before wash. I know you didn't ask that but just chucked it into the mix.
Keep Safe on the roads and out there.
maids said
11:32 AM Nov 19, 2022
Blues Man wrote:
Hi Maids , we use white vinegar in our grey water tanks , it's nice and cheap and it also ensures that the sensors are clean.
We have been doing that for a lot of years now and have never had any problems.
Cheers.
when and how much please
maids said
11:33 AM Nov 19, 2022
Mike Harding wrote:
Blues Man wrote:
we use white vinegar in our grey water tanks , it's nice and cheap and it also ensures that the sensors are clean.
Good idea. I use to use it instead of the "rinse aid" rubbish in my automatic washing machine, not only did it restore the ph balance from the washing powder but it kept the machine clean.
I often use it as a cleaner for surfaces I don't wish to use chemical cleaners on.
when do you add to the machine please
Possum3 said
11:59 AM Nov 19, 2022
maids wrote:
when do you add to the machine please
We add in dispenser at home and in final rinse in caravan machine.
maids said
03:22 PM Nov 19, 2022
Dougwe wrote:
I three, use white Vinegar, a mug full, in fact, it is actually cleaning vinegar or double strength.
I also use it in Toot canister and leave in back of car for a day while driving around then empty. Also, and as well even, I use a cup full in final rinse of public washing machines. That's after I have wiped the bowl before wash. I know you didn't ask that but just chucked it into the mix.
Keep Safe on the roads and out there.
do you put some in the toilet while using instead off the toilet chemicals
Geeco said
04:33 PM Nov 19, 2022
My cleaning process for our grey water tank is to pour a bottle of disinfectant (cheap supermarket brand) down the shower/ kitchen sink drains before departing for home base from my last overnight stop. On arriving home I drain the tank. I like to have the grey water drain open while we are parked up.
I use Vanish stain remover about two capfuls in the toilet with a slurp of eucalyptus oil to perfume the loo. Both have worked fine for the last 8 odd years.
Dougwe said
10:19 PM Nov 19, 2022
maids wrote:
Dougwe wrote:
I three, use white Vinegar, a mug full, in fact, it is actually cleaning vinegar or double strength.
I also use it in Toot canister and leave in back of car for a day while driving around then empty. Also, and as well even, I use a cup full in final rinse of public washing machines. That's after I have wiped the bowl before wash. I know you didn't ask that but just chucked it into the mix.
Keep Safe on the roads and out there.
do you put some in the toilet while using instead off the toilet chemicals
No Janet, just to give a good rinse out now and then. You could try instead of chemical additive though. No harm in trying. In fact, I will try myself.
Possum3 said
06:36 AM Nov 20, 2022
Whilst vinegar (an acid) is great for washing machine and tank cleansing it should never be used in toilet canisters (other than for cleaning).
The purpose of additive in the cassette is to break down the urine, paper and faeces - Sodium permanganate is the best chemical to do that effectively (Napisan/Soaker).
Sodium permanganate is a great water treatment oxidant option. It is a pH neutral solution that does not release gas or create heat during reaction with contaminants.
Dougwe said
07:56 AM Nov 20, 2022
Thanks Possum. I'll continue to use vinegar only for the clean.
I have tried the NappySan/similar flavor without success. I have also tried many different flavored treatments, but most were very overpowering in the smell department or just simply didn't cut the mustard.
Many moons back now I settled for the Thetford Blue Sachets that I dissolve first, but the green ones if emptying into a septic system. I have also been known to empty daily, if need be, using no additive. Being a solo, I find I empty about every 4 to 5 days (Canister that is, not me) but traveling around gives it all a good mix up but if stationary for long stays and that is regular as there is no hurry, I give the canister a shake in between to give a mix up. Has worked successfully for me for many moons now. I am always willing to try something new though.
Gee, I hope no one is eating reading this subject
Keep Safe on the roads and out there.
Blues Man said
08:35 AM Nov 20, 2022
maids wrote:
Blues Man wrote:
Hi Maids , we use white vinegar in our grey water tanks , it's nice and cheap and it also ensures that the sensors are clean.
We have been doing that for a lot of years now and have never had any problems.
Cheers.
when and how much please
Hi Maids it's me again, The Blues Man.
Ok ,so when putting the vinegar in (down the sink and in the shower) i will use a full bottle (1.5L.)approx half a bottle in each of the openings
and i will usually put it in when my grey tank is approx half full and when i know i will be travelling quite a few kilometres so that it will get a good slush around
and then i will release it when i get home.
maids said
05:24 PM Nov 20, 2022
Blues Man wrote:
maids wrote:
Blues Man wrote:
Hi Maids , we use white vinegar in our grey water tanks , it's nice and cheap and it also ensures that the sensors are clean.
We have been doing that for a lot of years now and have never had any problems.
Cheers.
when and how much please
Hi Maids it's me again, The Blues Man.
Ok ,so when putting the vinegar in (down the sink and in the shower) i will use a full bottle (1.5L.)approx half a bottle in each of the openings
and i will usually put it in when my grey tank is approx half full and when i know i will be travelling quite a few kilometres so that it will get a good slush around
and then i will release it when i get home.
thanks blues man
Dick0 said
05:41 PM Nov 20, 2022
You can get Thetford Aqua Kem Green 1lt x 6 bottles on Ebay for $70.00 delivered to your door from Melbourne supplier.
When traveling about the playground I have seen them for $30.00 litre at camping outlets!
Cuppa said
06:02 PM Nov 20, 2022
Dougwe wrote:
Thanks Possum. I'll continue to use vinegar only for the clean.
I have tried the NappySan/similar flavor without success. I have also tried many different flavored treatments, but most were very overpowering in the smell department or just simply didn't cut the mustard.
Many moons back now I settled for the Thetford Blue Sachets that I dissolve first, but the green ones if emptying into a septic system. I have also been known to empty daily, if need be, using no additive. Being a solo, I find I empty about every 4 to 5 days (Canister that is, not me) but traveling around gives it all a good mix up but if stationary for long stays and that is regular as there is no hurry, I give the canister a shake in between to give a mix up. Has worked successfully for me for many moons now. I am always willing to try something new though.
Gee, I hope no one is eating reading this subject
Keep Safe on the roads and out there.
Whichever works is the best. I've never quite understood that what works for one person doesn't for another. Maybe affected by our individual diets?
We have used napisan type laundry soakers (Sodium Percarbonate) in the toilet for quite a few years now & find it works far better for us than anything else we've tried. One thing we learned is that 'more' is not better. Put too much in & the effect is no better than putting none in. When appropriate we prefer not to wee in the toilet, it's the urine which makes the mix smell bad. The regime which works best for us is to set the toilet up with a litre or two of water in the bottom compartment with a teaspoon of the laundry soaker added, use it only for number twos, & add no more than alevel teaspoon of the laundry soaker with each 'deposit' & several pumps of the flusher. Although the toilet's capacity is greater we also like to empty every 3 or 4 days, or sooner if it has urine in it. The sodium percarbonate doesn't make it smell like roses, but it is far less unpleasant to empty than it ever was when we used proprietary chemicals sold for the purpose. We don't add anything to the top tank. The pink stuff which is sold to put in I believe is only to provide lubrication for the toilet's rubber seal. We give it a wipe with a paper towel & olive oil once in a while instead. Others have success with things like the odour-be-gone tablets, which essentially are a more expensive but slightly more convenient equivalent to the sodium percarbonate content of laundry boosters.
-- Edited by Cuppa on Sunday 20th of November 2022 06:10:12 PM
Two reasons
1. I have Hepvo (one way) valves, on both the kitchen sink, and the shower/wash sink outlets
this ensures that no smells will return to the living areas, from the grey water tank
2. I empty the grey water tank, as soon as possible, (before any smells arrive)
I use the water, after it has cooled, to give the trees a drink
Note that after 24 hours, the grey water turns to black water, and should be emptied in a dump point
how can we tell if there are valves on the system
They look like this from the outside, just follow the pipe/s which go into the grey water tank
Hi Maids , we use white vinegar in our grey water tanks , it's nice and cheap and it also ensures that the sensors are clean.
We have been doing that for a lot of years now and have never had any problems.
Cheers.
Good idea. I use to use it instead of the "rinse aid" rubbish in my automatic washing machine, not only did it restore the ph balance from the washing powder but it kept the machine clean.
I often use it as a cleaner for surfaces I don't wish to use chemical cleaners on.
I also use it in Toot canister and leave in back of car for a day while driving around then empty. Also, and as well even, I use a cup full in final rinse of public washing machines. That's after I have wiped the bowl before wash. I know you didn't ask that but just chucked it into the mix.
Keep Safe on the roads and out there.
when and how much please
when do you add to the machine please
We add in dispenser at home and in final rinse in caravan machine.
do you put some in the toilet while using instead off the toilet chemicals
I use Vanish stain remover about two capfuls in the toilet with a slurp of eucalyptus oil to perfume the loo. Both have worked fine for the last 8 odd years.
No Janet, just to give a good rinse out now and then. You could try instead of chemical additive though. No harm in trying. In fact, I will try myself.
The purpose of additive in the cassette is to break down the urine, paper and faeces - Sodium permanganate is the best chemical to do that effectively (Napisan/Soaker).
Sodium permanganate is a great water treatment oxidant option. It is a pH neutral solution that does not release gas or create heat during reaction with contaminants.
Thanks Possum. I'll continue to use vinegar only for the clean.
I have tried the NappySan/similar flavor without success. I have also tried many different flavored treatments, but most were very overpowering in the smell department or just simply didn't cut the mustard.
Many moons back now I settled for the Thetford Blue Sachets that I dissolve first, but the green ones if emptying into a septic system. I have also been known to empty daily, if need be, using no additive. Being a solo, I find I empty about every 4 to 5 days (Canister that is, not me) but traveling around gives it all a good mix up but if stationary for long stays and that is regular as there is no hurry, I give the canister a shake in between to give a mix up. Has worked successfully for me for many moons now. I am always willing to try something new though.
Gee, I hope no one is eating reading this subject
Keep Safe on the roads and out there.
Hi Maids it's me again, The Blues Man.
Ok ,so when putting the vinegar in (down the sink and in the shower) i will use a full bottle (1.5L.)approx half a bottle in each of the openings
and i will usually put it in when my grey tank is approx half full and when i know i will be travelling quite a few kilometres so that it will get a good slush around
and then i will release it when i get home.
thanks blues man
You can get Thetford Aqua Kem Green 1lt x 6 bottles on Ebay for $70.00 delivered to your door from Melbourne supplier.
When traveling about the playground I have seen them for $30.00 litre at camping outlets!
Whichever works is the best. I've never quite understood that what works for one person doesn't for another. Maybe affected by our individual diets?
We have used napisan type laundry soakers (Sodium Percarbonate) in the toilet for quite a few years now & find it works far better for us than anything else we've tried. One thing we learned is that 'more' is not better. Put too much in & the effect is no better than putting none in. When appropriate we prefer not to wee in the toilet, it's the urine which makes the mix smell bad. The regime which works best for us is to set the toilet up with a litre or two of water in the bottom compartment with a teaspoon of the laundry soaker added, use it only for number twos, & add no more than a level teaspoon of the laundry soaker with each 'deposit' & several pumps of the flusher. Although the toilet's capacity is greater we also like to empty every 3 or 4 days, or sooner if it has urine in it. The sodium percarbonate doesn't make it smell like roses, but it is far less unpleasant to empty than it ever was when we used proprietary chemicals sold for the purpose. We don't add anything to the top tank. The pink stuff which is sold to put in I believe is only to provide lubrication for the toilet's rubber seal. We give it a wipe with a paper towel & olive oil once in a while instead. Others have success with things like the odour-be-gone tablets, which essentially are a more expensive but slightly more convenient equivalent to the sodium percarbonate content of laundry boosters.
-- Edited by Cuppa on Sunday 20th of November 2022 06:10:12 PM