"Australian conservation volunteers will be shipped to Gallipoli to clean up rubbish left by Anzac Day visitors this year.
Last year's service was marred by litter being left at the area after the dawn service."
A national farce and disgrace ...
elliemike said
05:31 PM Nov 24, 2022
Interesting that in past discussions on this Forum foreign "Backpackers" were the culprits who created most of the rubbish, litter, and left their toilet paper everywhere.
I haven't seen much change in my travels all over WA in the past two years. Seem to be more people using the free camps now than ever before. Not many foreign backpackers though.
It has always been disappointing to see the litter left behind by revelers celebrating "Australia Day" the morning after here in South Perth. Going to work at 0600 am and noting the disgusting state of the South Perth foreshore made you wonder about loving your country.
Mike Harding said
06:18 PM Nov 24, 2022
Some people are pigs, always has been that way, anyways will be that way.
Of course none of them are members of this forum... yeah, right!
86GTS said
07:18 PM Nov 24, 2022
The great Australian Bogan is alive & well out there. As The Man From Ironbark said, "their heads were flat, their eyes were dim, they had no brains at all". We've seen some horrific examples of idiots dumping rubbish out in the bush. We NEVER camp within 20kms of a large country town. Bazza & Shazza drive out to their favourite parking spot in the bush loaded up with Macka's, cans of grog & a packet of condoms. They leave all their empties behind except for the condoms which they leave behind full. All proud Aussies. Murrumbidgee River, great campsite except for the dumped rubbish.
-- Edited by 86GTS on Thursday 24th of November 2022 07:48:20 PM
Plain Truth said
08:33 PM Nov 24, 2022
Most of the free camps we go to are spotless when we arrive, not to many people.
And we leave it that way,only ever had to clean up twice after others.
I believe a lot of those untidy folks get their training on making a mess at the Melbourne Cup. I have seen many pictures of the Flemington horse track mess after the race. Many of the perpetrators also looking very messy as well :)
86GTS said
02:21 PM Nov 25, 2022
This one at a pristine campsite in Nombinnie Nature Reserve, South of Cobar on the Kidman Way NSW.
Bl**dy Pigs!
Wannabe nomad said
07:33 AM Nov 27, 2022
You get money back on those cans and bottles in S.A. it should be Australia wide cos that's a lot of pocket money in those pictures. Not that it would stop the other rubbish.
Although I've seen more clean camps than dirty ones in my travels it still pxxxxs me off when I see rubbish especially when it's loo paper cos I know what's lurking in the bushes yuck.
Some people weren't brought up proper and I bet they don't take a poo bag when they take their dog for a walk when at home either.
Whenarewethere said
08:01 AM Nov 27, 2022
In NSW the same, finally!
My neighbour's club donated $4.5k to charity last financial year. I add a few cans to his collection. Mostly picking up cans thrown out on the footpath if I happen to see them.
I have noticed an increasing number to people raiding our yellow bins entering the properties in our street.
I spoke to one collector (looked like a "professional" collector) in our street & said we donate to charity & the response was 'you are one of those'
Possum3 said
08:06 AM Nov 27, 2022
Wannabe nomad wrote:
You get money back on those cans and bottles in S.A. it should be Australia wide cos that's a lot of pocket money in those pictures.
The State Governments don't want you to recycle bottles and cans - They've collected the 10 cents each and don't want to give it back, there is over $3.00 worth in picture that State Govt. has pocketed - money for jam.
hufnpuf said
08:33 AM Nov 27, 2022
Wannabe nomad wrote:
You get money back on those cans and bottles in S.A.
SA has had it for years and years, I always thought it a great idea. We have it here now too. When I went to Tassie, they didn't have it yet, but it was coming, I think early next year? I am in the habit of putting the cans and bottles aside, it felt strange not being able to take them to the recycling collection place. Next time I go (if I'm lucky) they'll have it.
What I don't get about those who just leave their rubbish behind is who do they think is going to pick it up? Their mum?
yobarr said
11:27 AM Nov 27, 2022
Possum3 wrote:
Wannabe nomad wrote:
You get money back on those cans and bottles in S.A. it should be Australia wide cos that's a lot of pocket money in those pictures.
The State Governments don't want you to recycle bottles and cans - They've collected the 10 cents each and don't want to give it back, there is over $3.00 worth in picture that State Govt. has pocketed - money for jam.
Whilst I agree with your sentiments, Possum, a closer look at the reality is that 10 cents / can is chicken feed. We are from a generation where 10 cents (1 shilling!) was a lot of money, and could buy a double-cone icecream. Today, with average pay being $35/ hour, it would take only the desperate to bother going to the trouble of picking up the empty cans, loading them into the car and transporting them to a recycle depot for a miserable 10 cents each. You'd need a few dozen empties just to cover expenses! hPerhaps if the return was raised to $1/can we'd see a lot more cans being recycled, as it is likely that even children would become involved. Without seeming to defend the perpetrators of these piles of rubbish, they did at least leave the debris in heaps rather than strewn all around the camp site, or even thrown into the river. Sadly, as with so many things nowadays, it all is someone else's fault, and someone else's responsibility. Cheers.
World Cup 2022: Japan's fans clean up stadium after win over Germany:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/63735823
It's a safe bet that next time you see filth at your campground, it won't have been left behind by a Japanese tourist.
-- Edited by dorian on Thursday 24th of November 2022 02:01:36 PM
Manly Beach after Australia Day looks like a garbage tip. Often we have picked up broken beer bottles from the foreshore around our local area.
I still remember this.
PM downplays Gallipoli litter:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2005-04-27/pm-downplays-gallipoli-litter/1559350
Then, in the following year ...
Volunteers to clean-up after Gallipoli Anzac service:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2006-03-06/volunteers-to-clean-up-after-gallipoli-anzac/811958
"Australian conservation volunteers will be shipped to Gallipoli to clean up rubbish left by Anzac Day visitors this year.
Last year's service was marred by litter being left at the area after the dawn service."
A national farce and disgrace ...
Interesting that in past discussions on this Forum foreign "Backpackers" were the culprits who created most of the rubbish, litter, and left their toilet paper everywhere.
I haven't seen much change in my travels all over WA in the past two years. Seem to be more people using the free camps now than ever before. Not many foreign backpackers though.
It has always been disappointing to see the litter left behind by revelers celebrating "Australia Day" the morning after here in South Perth. Going to work at 0600 am and noting the disgusting state of the South Perth foreshore made you wonder about loving your country.
Some people are pigs, always has been that way, anyways will be that way.
Of course none of them are members of this forum... yeah, right!
The great Australian Bogan is alive & well out there.
As The Man From Ironbark said, "their heads were flat, their eyes were dim, they had no brains at all".
We've seen some horrific examples of idiots dumping rubbish out in the bush.
We NEVER camp within 20kms of a large country town.
Bazza & Shazza drive out to their favourite parking spot in the bush loaded up with Macka's, cans of grog & a packet of condoms.
They leave all their empties behind except for the condoms which they leave behind full.
All proud Aussies. Murrumbidgee River, great campsite except for the dumped rubbish.
-- Edited by 86GTS on Thursday 24th of November 2022 07:48:20 PM
Most of the free camps we go to are spotless when we arrive, not to many people.
And we leave it that way,only ever had to clean up twice after others.
This one at a pristine campsite in Nombinnie Nature Reserve, South of Cobar on the Kidman Way NSW.
Bl**dy Pigs!
Although I've seen more clean camps than dirty ones in my travels it still pxxxxs me off when I see rubbish especially when it's loo paper cos I know what's lurking in the bushes yuck.
Some people weren't brought up proper and I bet they don't take a poo bag when they take their dog for a walk when at home either.
In NSW the same, finally!
My neighbour's club donated $4.5k to charity last financial year. I add a few cans to his collection. Mostly picking up cans thrown out on the footpath if I happen to see them.
I have noticed an increasing number to people raiding our yellow bins entering the properties in our street.
I spoke to one collector (looked like a "professional" collector) in our street & said we donate to charity & the response was 'you are one of those'
The State Governments don't want you to recycle bottles and cans - They've collected the 10 cents each and don't want to give it back, there is over $3.00 worth in picture that State Govt. has pocketed - money for jam.
SA has had it for years and years, I always thought it a great idea. We have it here now too. When I went to Tassie, they didn't have it yet, but it was coming, I think early next year? I am in the habit of putting the cans and bottles aside, it felt strange not being able to take them to the recycling collection place. Next time I go (if I'm lucky) they'll have it.
What I don't get about those who just leave their rubbish behind is who do they think is going to pick it up? Their mum?
Whilst I agree with your sentiments, Possum, a closer look at the reality is that 10 cents / can is chicken feed. We are from a generation where 10 cents (1 shilling!) was a lot of money, and could buy a double-cone icecream. Today, with average pay being $35/ hour, it would take only the desperate to bother going to the trouble of picking up the empty cans, loading them into the car and transporting them to a recycle depot for a miserable 10 cents each. You'd need a few dozen empties just to cover expenses! hPerhaps if the return was raised to $1/can we'd see a lot more cans being recycled, as it is likely that even children would become involved. Without seeming to defend the perpetrators of these piles of rubbish, they did at least leave the debris in heaps rather than strewn all around the camp site, or even thrown into the river. Sadly, as with so many things nowadays, it all is someone else's fault, and someone else's responsibility. Cheers.