I just noticed on my compliance plate the load ratings of my axle group is 2000kg yet my my ATM is 2195 kg, am I missing something ? how can my loaded van weigh 2195 when my axles are only rated at 2000kg. My van is a single axle Golf Savanah. Ian
-- Edited by Ian G on Wednesday 5th of April 2023 04:45:15 PM
I just noticed on my compliance plate the load ratings of my axle group is 2000kg yet my my ATM is 2195 kg, am I missing something ? how can my loaded van weigh 2195 when my axles are only rated at 2000kg. My van is a single axle Golf Savanah. Ian
ATM includes weight on axle(s) plus weight on towball or jockey wheel. The generally accepted towball weight for safe towing is 10% of ATM, so 220kg (+/-) in your case. This 220kg plus 1975kg on your 2000kg axle equals your ATM of 2195kg. All is good, and within your capacities. Well done! Safe travels. Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 5th of April 2023 05:25:48 PM
Ian G said
08:24 PM Apr 5, 2023
Thanks Yobarr, that makes sense, I notice my tyres have a max load of 1030kg so these comply also ? Thanks Ian
yobarr said
07:35 AM Apr 6, 2023
Ian G wrote:
Thanks Yobarr, that makes sense, I notice my tyres have a max load of 1030kg so these comply also ? Thanks Ian
Hi Ian. Whilst your tyres do indeed comply I certainly would be looking at a better rating when they're replaced.
You're running them at near maximum capacity. Not good IMO.
My van runs nearly 3200kg on its two-axles but I always run 265/75R16 AT tyres with carrying capacity of 1550kg (6200kg total).
Tyres are like weights . not to be messed around with. Good luck. Cheers
yobarr said
10:47 AM Apr 6, 2023
Ian, I have only now looked at your compliance plate, and notice that towball weight is listed at 180kg. In case you don't realise, this means nothing. Zip, zero,zilch, nil, nada and can safely be ignored. Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Thursday 6th of April 2023 12:10:24 PM
Ian G said
11:05 AM Apr 6, 2023
Yes I realize that, I know it is more than 180 and will be weighing everything shortly. Back on the tyres, they are Goodyear Wrangler and as mentioned they state a max load of 1030 kg and a max of 50 psi, as they are close to the load limit do you think 45 psi would be around the mark that I should be running on the highway ? thanks again Ian
yobarr said
12:09 PM Apr 6, 2023
Ian G wrote:
Yes I realize that, I know it is more than 180 and will be weighing everything shortly. Back on the tyres, they are Goodyear Wrangler and as mentioned they state a max load of 1030 kg and a max of 50 psi, as they are close to the load limit do you think 45 psi would be around the mark that I should be running on the highway ? thanks again Ian
Sorry Ian, not knowledgeable enough on tyre pressures to offer useful advice, but I would imagine that 45psi would be about right???
There are a several members who seem quite learned in this area so perhaps they'll help? Good luck. Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Thursday 6th of April 2023 12:13:45 PM
Southern Cruizer said
08:28 PM Apr 6, 2023
Nothing about this post but this morning while getting the local rag I saw a Ram come up the main street with a dual axle van about 21 ft or there abouts and so help me, I don't know what he had in the back of the ute but his towbar was just about kissing the bitumen. Haven't seen a load like that ever on one of those vehicles but certainly will be click bait if the cops are watching
Warren-Pat_01 said
12:06 PM Apr 9, 2023
Hi SC,
Dodge have a saying "RAMs eat Utes" on their RAM1500 advertising.
They might until you look into the statement, yes they have a greater pulling capacity than my D-Max but their loaded capacity is less! Perhaps the owner of one you saw got sucked in by a fibbing dealer!
yobarr said
12:54 PM Apr 9, 2023
Warren-Pat_01 wrote:
Hi SC, Dodge have a saying "RAMs eat Utes" on their RAM1500 advertising. They might until you look into the statement, yes they have a greater pulling capacity than my D-Max but their loaded capacity is less! Perhaps the owner of one you saw got sucked in by a fibbing dealer!
As you say, the RAM1500 has greater pulling power than your D-Max, but only when towing a DOG trailer.
The ridiculously low rear axle carrying capacity is the problem, and means that when towing a PIG trailer with the generally accepted 10% towball weight, the safe tow capacity is around only 3000kg. Cheers.
Southern Cruizer said
04:53 PM Apr 9, 2023
Warren-Pat_01 wrote:
Hi SC, Dodge have a saying "RAMs eat Utes" on their RAM1500 advertising. They might until you look into the statement, yes they have a greater pulling capacity than my D-Max but their loaded capacity is less! Perhaps the owner of one you saw got sucked in by a fibbing dealer!
Warren you could be right there. It looked like gross overload on the ute to the extreme
I just noticed on my compliance plate the load ratings of my axle group is 2000kg yet my my ATM is 2195 kg, am I missing something ? how can my loaded van weigh 2195 when my axles are only rated at 2000kg. My van is a single axle Golf Savanah. Ian
-- Edited by Ian G on Wednesday 5th of April 2023 04:45:15 PM
ATM includes weight on axle(s) plus weight on towball or jockey wheel. The generally accepted towball weight for safe towing is 10% of ATM, so 220kg (+/-) in your case. This 220kg plus 1975kg on your 2000kg axle equals your ATM of 2195kg. All is good, and within your capacities. Well done! Safe travels. Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 5th of April 2023 05:25:48 PM
Hi Ian. Whilst your tyres do indeed comply I certainly would be looking at a better rating when they're replaced.
You're running them at near maximum capacity. Not good IMO.
My van runs nearly 3200kg on its two-axles but I always run 265/75R16 AT tyres with carrying capacity of 1550kg (6200kg total).
Tyres are like weights . not to be messed around with. Good luck. Cheers
Ian, I have only now looked at your compliance plate, and notice that towball weight is listed at 180kg.
In case you don't realise, this means nothing. Zip, zero,zilch, nil, nada and can safely be ignored. Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Thursday 6th of April 2023 12:10:24 PM
Yes I realize that, I know it is more than 180 and will be weighing everything shortly. Back on the tyres, they are Goodyear Wrangler and as mentioned they state a max load of 1030 kg and a max of 50 psi, as they are close to the load limit do you think 45 psi would be around the mark that I should be running on the highway ? thanks again Ian
Sorry Ian, not knowledgeable enough on tyre pressures to offer useful advice, but I would imagine that 45psi would be about right???
There are a several members who seem quite learned in this area so perhaps they'll help? Good luck. Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Thursday 6th of April 2023 12:13:45 PM
Dodge have a saying "RAMs eat Utes" on their RAM1500 advertising.
They might until you look into the statement, yes they have a greater pulling capacity than my D-Max but their loaded capacity is less! Perhaps the owner of one you saw got sucked in by a fibbing dealer!
As you say, the RAM1500 has greater pulling power than your D-Max, but only when towing a DOG trailer.
The ridiculously low rear axle carrying capacity is the problem, and means that when towing a PIG trailer with the generally accepted 10% towball weight, the safe tow capacity is around only 3000kg. Cheers.
Warren you could be right there. It looked like gross overload on the ute to the extreme