On a recent trip berween murray bridge & bordertown I had a passenger side tyre on the van delaminate, pulled up with no dramas but road side of van was barely inside the fogline because of the STUPID wire barriers, good fun in the dirt changing the tyre, road trains rocking the van (100kph road) as they passed even thou, they moved over when they could, rant over
Joda.
Craig1 said
06:02 PM Jun 30, 2023
Plenty of the S... around here as well, and no chance of pulling up with any safety at all, you would not even get off the road at all. Then when it is ivariably hit , takes months to get fixed. A nasty cost cutting exercise and a plum job handed to a " mate " I reckon .
Wodonga to Beechworth, Hume Freeway etc etc. ( both sides of the river)
Basher said
11:04 AM Jul 1, 2023
Why did you not drive futher along, your tyre was already f...ked, slowly with emergency flashers on to a safer spot!!
Basher
Cuppa said
11:31 AM Jul 1, 2023
Motorcyclists often refer to those wire rope barriers as 'cheese graters'. I cannot understand why anyone ever thought they were a good idea.
Greg 1 said
11:40 AM Jul 1, 2023
The same has been happening in the West.
Barriers built close to the lanes with no hope of pulling in in the case of an emergency and the barriers go on for miles.
The stupidity of so called road engineers these days defies belief.
Joda said
02:43 PM Jul 1, 2023
I knew someone would say keep going to a better spot, we were going up a hill slowly with flashers on, could not see any place better for klicks ahead, stuff up the alloy rim to boot with virtually no tyre left on it, wifey stood down the road a bit which caught drivers attention which helped
Considerably, barriers appear to do nothing for road safety on this particular stretch of road, let me know when it happens to you Basher,
Joda
Basher said
06:09 PM Jul 1, 2023
Well, smart a....e, if you knew someone was going to say what I said, why in the hell did you NOT tell the FULL story.
yobarr said
06:39 PM Jul 1, 2023
Joda wrote:
I knew someone would say keep going to a better spot, we were going up a hill slowly with flashers on, could not see any place better for klicks ahead, stuff up the alloy rim to boot with virtually no tyre left on it, wifey stood down the road a bit which caught drivers attention which helped Considerably, barriers appear to do nothing for road safety on this particular stretch of road, let me know when it happens to you Basher, Joda
Like you, I expected some expert would say, after careful consideration, that you should have kept going "to a better spot".
You have stated that you could see no better place for "klicks ahead" and that you were wary that you would "stuff up the alloy rim",both being potential hazards which would have been obvious to any clear-thinking individual.
You seem to have handled a potentially dangerous situation very well, with the support of your wife. Well done!
Let us hope that you never again have to deal with problems created by office jockeys who seem unable to anticipate potential hazards, and take measures to minimise them. Cheers.
-- Edited by yobarr on Saturday 1st of July 2023 06:54:53 PM
Without debating the issue of the thread, a bit of history re these barriers.
They were developed I believe in Germany in the late 1980s. The safety idea was that these are an energy absorbing system, and unlike the common metal barriers, are designed to prevent vehicles suffering major damage endangering the occupants, and to absorb the impact and stop the vehicle being catapulted back across the road into oncoming vehicles. If a vehicle does hit it, it rarely if ever is able to go over the fence, and the fence is more easily repaired, staying more complete than hard metal armcoes.
Judging from the amount of this type of barrier around the country, it is either very effective, or the company employed exceptional sales people.
Bicyclecamper said
01:26 AM Jul 2, 2023
They are also a leg remover for motorcyclists, as well as losing your head if you slide into them. They only work for cars and trucks.
Craig1 said
09:57 AM Jul 2, 2023
Ric, the trucks just go through them here, on Hume Hwy, between Albury Wodonga
Gundog said
10:31 AM Jul 2, 2023
TheHeaths wrote:
Without debating the issue of the thread, a bit of history re these barriers.
They were developed I believe in Germany in the late 1980s. The safety idea was that these are an energy absorbing system, and unlike the common metal barriers, are designed to prevent vehicles suffering major damage endangering the occupants, and to absorb the impact and stop the vehicle being catapulted back across the road into oncoming vehicles. If a vehicle does hit it, it rarely if ever is able to go over the fence, and the fence is more easily repaired, staying more complete than hard metal armcoes.
Judging from the amount of this type of barrier around the country, it is either very effective, or the company employed exceptional sales people.
In my opinion those rope barriers that are being deployed by councils and authorities are useing the excuse that its to protect the vehicle occuptant in dangerous bends etc, so why are they deployed straight streaches of roads, its to protect the enviroment, they dont want you pulling up because of the native grasses and trees.
JeffRae said
11:50 AM Jul 2, 2023
I don't like them either, but, I think I would rather hit the rope barrier than come to a sudden stop wrapped around a tree.
Magnarc said
02:33 PM Jul 4, 2023
Basher wrote:
Well, smart a....e, if you knew someone was going to say what I said, why in the hell did you NOT tell the FULL story.
Living up to your nom de plume Basher? Rude, derogatory, inflammatory and totally unnecessary. Not bad for someone who has been on the forum for five minutes or have you been on here for a lot longer than that???
We can do without posts like yours
Are We Lost said
03:55 PM Jul 4, 2023
Magnarc, I think he chose that name for a purpose and he intends to live up that purpose by making insulting, derogative and nacissist remarks. Remembering some previous nasty comments I just had a look at a few of his recent posts. He lives up to his name.
TimTim said
04:02 PM Jul 4, 2023
Exactly Cuppa and that is why they are banned in some countries in Europe.
Furtherore, you will see that the steel barriers are now having an additional barrier installed lower down so as to reduce the risk to motorcyclists.
Basher said
04:36 PM Jul 4, 2023
Magnarc wrote:
Basher wrote:
Well, smart a....e, if you knew someone was going to say what I said, why in the hell did you NOT tell the FULL story.
Living up to your nom de plume Basher? Rude, derogatory, inflammatory and totally unnecessary. Not bad for someone who has been on the forum for five minutes or have you been on here for a lot longer than that???
We can do without posts like yours
And who made you chief!!!
My post was in context with the reply from the poster towards me, and like I said..............you know what, I can't be bothered to try an explain it to someone who's profile is an emu, THE DUMBESS BIRD ON THE PLANET
Basher
Santa said
05:17 PM Jul 4, 2023
"THE DUMBESS BIRD ON THE PLANET"
Had to smile at this, I think we now have an inkling as to just who the dumbest bird on the planet is, could it be the one who is unable to spell (dumbest)
Basher said
05:40 PM Jul 4, 2023
Well, I'm glad I gave you something to smile about
yobarr said
07:00 PM Jul 4, 2023
Magnarc wrote:
Basher wrote:
Well, smart a....e, if you knew someone was going to say what I said, why in the hell did you NOT tell the FULL story.
Living up to your nom de plume Basher? Rude, derogatory, inflammatory and totally unnecessary. Not bad for someone who has been on the forum for five minutes or have you been on here for a lot longer than that ???
We can do without posts like yours
Interesting suggestion Phil, and something that had crossed my mind too, I must admit. Cheers
Basher said
07:07 PM Jul 4, 2023
I was wondering how long it was going to take for you to comment, thanks for not disappointing me,, so so predictable
Basher
Santa said
07:18 PM Jul 4, 2023
This sounds familiar.
How to tell if you're dealing with a social media troll
You feel agitated. This may not always happen, but something might feel a little off in your interactions with a troll. ...
Wodonga to Beechworth, Hume Freeway etc etc. ( both sides of the river)
Basher
Like you, I expected some expert would say, after careful consideration, that you should have kept going "to a better spot".
You have stated that you could see no better place for "klicks ahead" and that you were wary that you would "stuff up the alloy rim",both being potential hazards which would have been obvious to any clear-thinking individual.
You seem to have handled a potentially dangerous situation very well, with the support of your wife. Well done!
Let us hope that you never again have to deal with problems created by office jockeys who seem unable to anticipate potential hazards, and take measures to minimise them. Cheers.
-- Edited by yobarr on Saturday 1st of July 2023 06:54:53 PM
They were developed I believe in Germany in the late 1980s. The safety idea was that these are an energy absorbing system, and unlike the common metal barriers, are designed to prevent vehicles suffering major damage endangering the occupants, and to absorb the impact and stop the vehicle being catapulted back across the road into oncoming vehicles. If a vehicle does hit it, it rarely if ever is able to go over the fence, and the fence is more easily repaired, staying more complete than hard metal armcoes.
Judging from the amount of this type of barrier around the country, it is either very effective, or the company employed exceptional sales people.
In my opinion those rope barriers that are being deployed by councils and authorities are useing the excuse that its to protect the vehicle occuptant in dangerous bends etc, so why are they deployed straight streaches of roads, its to protect the enviroment, they dont want you pulling up because of the native grasses and trees.
Living up to your nom de plume Basher? Rude, derogatory, inflammatory and totally unnecessary. Not bad for someone who has been on the forum for five minutes or have you been on here for a lot longer than that???
We can do without posts like yours
Exactly Cuppa and that is why they are banned in some countries in Europe.
Furtherore, you will see that the steel barriers are now having an additional barrier installed lower down so as to reduce the risk to motorcyclists.
And who made you chief!!!
My post was in context with the reply from the poster towards me, and like I said..............you know what, I can't be bothered to try an explain it to someone who's profile is an emu, THE DUMBESS BIRD ON THE PLANET
Basher
"THE DUMBESS BIRD ON THE PLANET
"
Had to smile at this, I think we now have an inkling as to just who the dumbest bird on the planet is, could it be the one who is unable to spell (dumbest)
Interesting suggestion Phil, and something that had crossed my mind too, I must admit. Cheers
I was wondering how long it was going to take for you to comment, thanks for not disappointing me,
, so so predictable
Basher
This sounds familiar.