I have very great worries about the possible outcome that may well arise
from the disposal of all grey water into the dump points.
I wonder what thought has been given to the situation that will likely
arise when all the RV and caravanner travellers all dump their 10 - 20
liters per day into the existing dump points. I think not that the no grey
water to the flowers exponents will like the necessity to pump out busy
dump points on a possible weekly basis.
Big bum council dictators and some RV Clubs will be surprised at what
they are promoting.
My carriage alone would be 200 liters straight into the dump. I know of
large rigs that have need to dump 500 in one go.
And the grass goes brown . . . . lets see.
B
woolman said
08:48 AM Jul 11, 2023
I agree with your sediment but it is not so simple.
The problem is grey water becomes "black water" after a few days. My understanding the time for change is variable depending on temperature and solids contaminantaion If grey water is dropped onto ground directly with a simple fine filter to remove solids it is pretty safe.
Too complicated to develop a solution on my pay scale.
Neil
Cuppa said
10:03 AM Jul 11, 2023
woolman wrote:
I agree with your sediment but it is not so simple.
The problem is grey water becomes "black water" after a few days. My understanding the time for change is variable depending on temperature and solids contaminantaion If grey water is dropped onto ground directly with a simple fine filter to remove solids it is pretty safe.
Too complicated to develop a solution on my pay scale.
Neil
'Sediment' - very fitting.
Yes what is initially fairly innocuous becomes stinky, unpleasant & potentially dangerous if stored for more than a fairly short time.
My view is that grey water tanks would best be sized to carry only 24 hours worth of waste. All sorts of reasons why this may not be practical, but a general encouragement to get folk to dispose of their grey water daily should IMHO be a more important focus than it is. I tend to think that folk who might argue that the whole point of having larger tanks to last for longer before emptying are part of the problem (& often quite righteous about it).
Often I think that campers without grey water tanks, who use minimal water & create minimal waste - spread thoughtfully onto the ground, are far more considerate to our environment & to others than those who are large water users with large holding tanks - especially those who empty those large tanks on roadsides or worse - dribble as they drive.
Brodie Allen said
02:14 PM Jul 11, 2023
My point is, what are the Councils going to do when the volume becomes enormous?
I'd also like to know where the soldiers of keeping contained dump their waste now.
Maybe someone from the cmca (or whatever its called) dump now?
B
Aussie1 said
03:10 PM Jul 11, 2023
Brodie Allen wrote:
I'd also like to know where the soldiers of keeping contained dump their waste now. Maybe someone from the cmca (or whatever its called) dump now?
B
More than likely where ever they choose. But wouldn't admit that on here as that would be political/Anti Greenie suicide
Onedodger said
01:31 PM Jul 13, 2023
Most Dump points are connected to the local sewerage system and those that are pumped out are later transferred into a sewerage point.
Gundog said
02:58 PM Jul 13, 2023
Many caravan parks allow grey water to be discharged on the ground, those who dont usually have grates for your grey water to enter the storm water system, some have it eventually enter the local sewage system.
If you are at a caravan park that only has a local septic system, they really dont want grey water to enter that system because some vanners may use chemical that would kill the septic, thus requiring them to be pumped out.
If you are at a self contained facility then take it with you, I asked in a thread about bush camping how they contend with emptying cassettes, the response from some was to dig a hole and empty it the cover it up.
The word soldiers was mentioned I know they are not the one's in uniform, in my days out in the bush we would use an entrenching tool to dig a hole to take a dump in, and any tree or vehicles wheels or track were good enough to take a leak on.
I have very great worries about the possible outcome that may well arise
from the disposal of all grey water into the dump points.
I wonder what thought has been given to the situation that will likely
arise when all the RV and caravanner travellers all dump their 10 - 20
liters per day into the existing dump points. I think not that the no grey
water to the flowers exponents will like the necessity to pump out busy
dump points on a possible weekly basis.
Big bum council dictators and some RV Clubs will be surprised at what
they are promoting.
My carriage alone would be 200 liters straight into the dump. I know of
large rigs that have need to dump 500 in one go.
And the grass goes brown . . . . lets see.
B
I agree with your sediment but it is not so simple.
The problem is grey water becomes "black water" after a few days. My understanding the time for change is variable depending on temperature and solids contaminantaion If grey water is dropped onto ground directly with a simple fine filter to remove solids it is pretty safe.
Too complicated to develop a solution on my pay scale.
Neil
'Sediment' - very fitting.
Yes what is initially fairly innocuous becomes stinky, unpleasant & potentially dangerous if stored for more than a fairly short time.
My view is that grey water tanks would best be sized to carry only 24 hours worth of waste. All sorts of reasons why this may not be practical, but a general encouragement to get folk to dispose of their grey water daily should IMHO be a more important focus than it is. I tend to think that folk who might argue that the whole point of having larger tanks to last for longer before emptying are part of the problem (& often quite righteous about it).
Often I think that campers without grey water tanks, who use minimal water & create minimal waste - spread thoughtfully onto the ground, are far more considerate to our environment & to others than those who are large water users with large holding tanks - especially those who empty those large tanks on roadsides or worse - dribble as they drive.
I'd also like to know where the soldiers of keeping contained dump their waste now.
Maybe someone from the cmca (or whatever its called) dump now?
B
More than likely where ever they choose. But wouldn't admit that on here as that would be political/Anti Greenie suicide
Most Dump points are connected to the local sewerage system and those that are pumped out are later transferred into a sewerage point.
Many caravan parks allow grey water to be discharged on the ground, those who dont usually have grates for your grey water to enter the storm water system, some have it eventually enter the local sewage system.
If you are at a caravan park that only has a local septic system, they really dont want grey water to enter that system because some vanners may use chemical that would kill the septic, thus requiring them to be pumped out.
If you are at a self contained facility then take it with you, I asked in a thread about bush camping how they contend with emptying cassettes, the response from some was to dig a hole and empty it the cover it up.
The word soldiers was mentioned I know they are not the one's in uniform, in my days out in the bush we would use an entrenching tool to dig a hole to take a dump in, and any tree or vehicles wheels or track were good enough to take a leak on.