It's interesting who you sometimes run into when traveling.
We pulled up at a free campsite at Coolgardie last week, which is about 3000 km from home. There was one other van parked there. The owner came out to say gooday. It turned out to be our favorite, "The Great Yobarr". We had a nice chat over a cup of coffee and it turns out that he remembered me from my number plate "2TROUT" as he had sent me some very valuable information about tow weights about 2 years earlier.
Lovely to have met you in person and I look forward to some more valuable feedback in the future.
Magnarc said
09:05 AM Sep 25, 2023
I presume that the site was big enough for the road train? (vbg)
yobarr said
10:10 AM Sep 25, 2023
2trout wrote:
It's interesting who you sometimes run into when traveling.
We pulled up at a free campsite at Coolgardie last week, which is about 3000 km from home. There was one other van parked there. The owner came out to say gooday. It turned out to be our favorite, "The Great Yobarr". We had a nice chat over a cup of coffee and it turns out that he remembered me from my number plate "2TROUT" as he had sent me some very valuable information about tow weights about 2 years earlier.
Lovely to have met you in person and I look forward to some more valuable feedback in the future.
Likewise Trevor. Great to meet you and Shirley, and to see that you and your dogs are enjoying your travels.
Not often I bother other free-campers but as soon as I saw your numberplate I remembered you seeking advice on your purchase of the Silverado 1500, so I decided to see how it all had worked out fir you.
Somewhere I still have your phone number so if I ever get back to Victoria I will give you a call. Take care. Cheers
yobarr said
10:20 AM Sep 25, 2023
Magnarc wrote:
I presume that the site was big enough for the road train? (vbg)
Yes Phil, the site certainly is big enough for a Road train, but I am back travelling in the car for now. Got sick of same stuff every day so chucked it in and left town. There is a huge number of vacancies for Roadtrain drivers, so I may do another stint later this year.
Planned to do Great Central road but a friend who is presently travelling wants to meet me in Perth early November, by which time it'll be getting a bit hot out in Central Oz, so I'll wait until next March-April before setting off on that road.Cheers
On a motorcycle forum many years ago I was dealing daily with a Yobarr type character. We had the same level of differences, opinions, angst, the occasional insults and even abuse. Then we met and he was a totally different person than I had been conversing with. Perhaps there's hope. I can be so optimistic :)
Bobdown said
05:09 PM Sep 25, 2023
2trout wrote:
It's interesting who you sometimes run into when traveling.
We pulled up at a free campsite at Coolgardie last week, which is about 3000 km from home. There was one other van parked there. The owner came out to say gooday. It turned out to be our favorite, "The Great Yobarr". We had a nice chat over a cup of coffee and it turns out that he remembered me from my number plate "2TROUT" as he had sent me some very valuable information about tow weights about 2 years earlier.
Lovely to have met you in person and I look forward to some more valuable feedback in the future.
Careful Trevor, Yobarrs' head will swell up and won't be able to fit it in his 79 Tojo.
peter67 said
06:13 PM Sep 25, 2023
X2 :)
Eaglemax said
09:14 PM Sep 25, 2023
Anyone that helps others is worth time around the campfire. In Yobarr's case I'd enjoy the moment... he could supply the wood as same would overload my SUV. :) . I have cake...
rgren2 said
09:41 AM Sep 26, 2023
Someone says something nice about someone, then the detractors come out. :(
yobarr said
10:08 AM Sep 26, 2023
Eaglemax wrote:
Anyone that helps others is worth time around the campfire. In Yobarr's case I'd enjoy the moment... he could supply the wood as same would overload my SUV. :) . I have cake
Who's bringing the beer? Although sometimes I suspect that your posts are simply baiting me, and are suitably ignored, always I am happy to meet fellow Grey Nomads for a chat, and to compare notes.
Always I offer help with weights, but sometimes someone wants to argue the point over things that they don't really understand.
This is where trouble starts! Despite our differences your posts suggest to me that you're a man of some intelligence, which is great because I don't suffer fools gladly.
As far as firewood goes, that should be easily obtained as I carry a chainsaw, a reciprocating saw, a bow saw and a couple of axes, one being a hatchet. Take care. Cheers
P.S Sad to see that Mr Toyota has chosen, after 40 years, to spoil the venerable 70 series by offering a silly little 4 cylinder Buzz Box engine and, horror of horrors, a slush-box transmission. Spare me!
You can be sure that I'll be keeping my little V8 until it is my time to make the journey we all will make.
NOT MY 79.
-- Edited by yobarr on Tuesday 26th of September 2023 10:57:18 AM
Yobarr, I admit not knowing weights as much as yourself. It's never been about weights nor your knowledge of them, it's your delivery to the responses that I find harsh but helping others trumps all that. But I still doubt you've succumbed to the reality of light vans having light towball weights. 9th paragraph https://rvbooks.com.au/caravan-tow-ball-weight/ Nevertheless we could easily chew the cud over a Cinzano, the only drink we drink unless its someone elses. But we are in SW Victoria but it just might happen one day. You can talk road trains and I can talk about my past professions.... which to date havent been public. When it does you can test drive our NQ5 GT sportage diesel and Jurgens Sungazer... while I drink your beer at cruising speed and I wont spill a drop... Tony
yobarr said
06:00 PM Sep 26, 2023
Eaglemax wrote:
Yobarr, I admit not knowing weights as much as yourself. It's never been about weights nor your knowledge of them, it's your delivery to the responses that I find harsh but helping others trumps all that. But I still doubt you've succumbed to the reality of light vans having light towball weights. 9th paragraph https://rvbooks.com.au/caravan-tow-ball-weight/ Nevertheless we could easily chew the cud over a Cinzano, the only drink we drink unless its someone elses. But we are in SW Victoria but it just might happen one day. You can talk road trains and I can talk about my past professions.... which to date havent been public. When it does you can test drive our NQ5 GT sportage diesel and Jurgens Sungazer... while I drink your beer at cruising speed and I wont spill a drop... Tony
Very thoughtful of you! Used to drink VB although now mainly 4X, but not common in WA, so Great Northern or JD.
My responses may appear 'harsh' but I easily tire of arguing facts with people who think they know stuff, but don't.
When I joined the forum some 5 years ago and dared to show how a WDH really works I was attacked and abused from all sides. Nobody could understand that a WDH increases the weight of a caravan by putting around 30% of the weight that it transfers from the car's rear axle, to the van's axle group.
It does this because a WDH DOES NOT change towball weight, so obviously if weight on wheels increases, so does total weight.
Slowly it has been accepted that this is exactly what happens, as evidenced by several members now posting exactly that in their valuable contributions.
My representations regarding the inability of an LC200 to safely and legally tow 3500kg as a PIG trailer were met with similar disdain until other members came out in my support.
Among my many files I have kept copies of many of those supporting posts.
Unfortunately, in my travels hardly a day goes by when at least one of these cars, with a boat on its roof and bicycles hanging off the back of the van, along with jerry cans etc pulls in to the camp I'm in.
And don't they get cranky when this is pointed out to them. Rarely do I approach others in the camp but regularly people visit me to enquire about my Solar setup, and the conversation soon moves to weights when they query the weight of 6x275 watt panels.
There are a couple of other things that regularly put me at odds with others. C'est la vie! Cheers
P.S What general area are you in in SW Victoria? Waaay back I once worked at Rosedale.
Eaglemax said
06:30 PM Sep 26, 2023
Rosedale is SE Victoria, I'm in Camperdown between Colac and Warrnambool. I built this house 3 years ago so was 64yo when I did that, too old so paid the price physically but nearly mended. The 2nd house I have built.
People do think they know things when they dont know enough of what they should know. Then, there is the general defiance that grumpy old men have when they get educated. I wrote and article once (one of 300) on that topic "talking to men, some tips". Many women thanked me, trouble was it was meant for men on how to talk to each other often about mental health or safety items/activity. Some men that are spoken to wont take any advice if they feel even slightly humiliated. Sad but true. Giving advice to a caravanner with a tinny on the top and overloaded, the pleasure would be in the likelihood they'll take the advice and save a head on collision. But if they ignore advice because they felt like a boy in a primary school, the objectivity is lost. Women are different especially in the towing game, all that I've met have been appreciative just like the one you assisted recently.
Regards Tony
yobarr said
06:52 PM Sep 26, 2023
Eaglemax wrote:
Rosedale is SE Victoria, I'm in Camperdown between Colac and Warrnambool. I built this house 3 years ago so was 64yo when I did that, too old so paid the price physically but nearly mended. The 2nd house I have built.
People do think they know things when they dont know enough of what they should know. Then, there is the general defiance that grumpy old men have when they get educated. I wrote and article once (one of 300) on that topic "talking to men, some tips". Many women thanked me, trouble was it was meant for men on how to talk to each other often about mental health or safety items/activity. Some men that are spoken to wont take any advice if they feel even slightly humiliated. Sad but true. Giving advice to a caravanner with a tinny on the top and overloaded, the pleasure would be in the likelihood they'll take the advice and save a head on collision. But if they ignore advice because they felt like a boy in a primary school, the objectivity is lost. Women are different especially in the towing game, all that I've met have been appreciative just like the one you assisted recently.
Regards Tony
Small world. I used to operate an excavator in the Otway Ranges, maintaining roads, drains, embankments etc. Based in Colac and drove out to the jobsites each morning, in the freezing cold and deep mud. Not much fun so I soon got out of there though. Cheers
Kebbin said
11:12 AM Sep 27, 2023
Anyone who drinks Great Northern deserves a medal & anyone who drinks Great Northern and likes it should see a Beerologist.
Eaglemax said
04:30 PM Sep 27, 2023
I thought I was a beerologist. When I separated from my first wife, I'd make home brew, coopers). Made it in my van annex. Then went to work at midnight. When I arrived back at the van park there was a distinct smell of beer. Overnight half of those bottles exploded. The manager wasnt amused so we came to an agreement. Each time he was on the ride on mower I'd hand him a long neck. Worked out well. But my best brew was Cumquat liquor. Get a sherry bottle, half filled with Cumquats pricked with a toothpick, half fill with sugar and fill it up with sweet sherry... minimum 6 months and ..mmmmm
2trout said
02:54 PM Oct 15, 2023
Hi Eaglemax,
Camperdown eh!
I don't suppose that you have heard of Pomborneit North (state school no. 3898)? Or have you ever fished Purrumbete or Bullen Merri? I love the bakery opposite the theatre in Manifold Street.
Cheers,
Trevor
Eaglemax said
03:36 PM Oct 15, 2023
2trout wrote:
Hi Eaglemax,
Camperdown eh!
I don't suppose that you have heard of Pomborneit North (state school no. 3898)? Or have you ever fished Purrumbete or Bullen Merri? I love the bakery opposite the theatre in Manifold Street.
Cheers,
Trevor
Hi Trevor,
Only been here 3 years. Came from Euroa before that. Only just taken up fishing as was at Wellington Lake recently and saw fish, large ones jumping out into the air, thought gee, theres dinner right there. Yesterday went to the lake cafe and saw a few boats out there. Bakery is good, nice bread.
Tony
Eaglemax said
03:37 PM Oct 15, 2023
2trout wrote:
It's interesting who you sometimes run into when traveling.
We pulled up at a free campsite at Coolgardie last week, which is about 3000 km from home. There was one other van parked there. The owner came out to say gooday. It turned out to be our favorite, "The Great Yobarr". We had a nice chat over a cup of coffee and it turns out that he remembered me from my number plate "2TROUT" as he had sent me some very valuable information about tow weights about 2 years earlier.
Lovely to have met you in person and I look forward to some more valuable feedback in the future.
Is Yobarr as grumpy looking as he sounds? :)
Brodie Allen said
08:09 AM Oct 16, 2023
Yobarr - given the risk of starting something that will likely go on forever, regarding your statement that a WDH increases the weight on the trailer wheels, I note that there is no additional weight on the hitch (ball). I have an Anderson hitch, and it functions only as a lever to twist the towball forwards at the top and rearwards at the bottom. all that does is transfer the "moments" forward in the tug which lessens the downward moments on the rear of the tug. No effect on the trailer whatsoever. Tell me how I'm wrong. B Writing from Doomadgee - nobody gives a stuff about the "Voice" here.
The Belmont Bear said
10:02 AM Oct 16, 2023
Brodie I also have the Andersen Hitch and we just completed the big lap using it, I used a HR torsion bar type WDH with our old van. In my opinion (although a little more expensive) the Andersen felt a lot better and the plus is its a bit lighter and easier to use. I changed from drinking XXXX Gold to Great Northern Super Crisp years ago which I could get anywhere we went in Australia. I made the comment to my wife while in Qld that most of the pubs in that state now advertise Great Northern where a few years ago it was mainly XXXX. In WA where we lived 40 odd years ago I bought a carton of bush chook just for old times sake it took me a bit to get used to the taste again but I soldiered on..
BB
-- Edited by The Belmont Bear on Monday 16th of October 2023 10:02:53 AM
-- Edited by The Belmont Bear on Monday 16th of October 2023 10:03:36 AM
peter67 said
10:10 AM Oct 16, 2023
Kebbin wrote:
Anyone who drinks Great Northern deserves a medal & anyone who drinks Great Northern and likes it should see a Beerologist.
Totally true but those beers, bad as they are, are a huge step up from xxxx. Nobody, BUT nobody with an ounce of sanity drinks xxxx, which should really drop one of the exes from it's brand name to reveal the nature of it's true ingredients...
yobarr said
09:20 PM Oct 16, 2023
Brodie Allen wrote:
Yobarr - given the risk of starting something that will likely go on forever, regarding your statement that a WDH increases the weight on the trailer wheels, I note that there is no additional weight on the hitch (ball). I have an Anderson hitch, and it functions only as a lever to twist the towball forwards at the top and rearwards at the bottom. all that does is transfer the "moments" forward in the tug which lessens the downward moments on the rear of the tug. No effect on the trailer whatsoever. Tell me how I'm wrong. B Writing from Doomadgee - nobody gives a stuff about the "Voice" here.
Hi Brodie, Unfortunately I am not familiar with the workings of an Anderson WDH, but a quick chat with Mr Google soon showed me that there is NO WAY that this bit of gear doesn't apply extra weight to the van's axle group.
The brackets pulling down on the drawbar see to that. Cheers
Not so, but leave it at that. Neither adds or detracts.
Maybe you could see one in operation and work it
out in your head? It only twists the ball forward at the top
and rearward at the bottom.
B
-- Edited by Brodie Allen on Tuesday 24th of October 2023 11:35:34 AM
Are We Lost said
12:05 PM Oct 24, 2023
Do we need another WDH thread with two others currently active? All with disputed opinions in the last 24 hours.
yobarr said
12:44 PM Oct 24, 2023
Brodie Allen wrote:
Not so, but leave it at that. Neither adds or detracts.
Maybe you could see one in operation and work it
out in your head? It only twists the ball forward at the top
and rearward at the bottom.
Surely you jest? The towball is fixed to the shank, a solid bar that is inserted into the receiver in the car's towbar.
It does not 'twist' forward or rearward.
The chains are the only flexible side of a 4 sided figure (rectangle?) that otherwise has 3 solid sides that cannot have their overall length altered when the 4th side (Chain) is shortened.
Shortening the chains results in the 4th side becoming shorter and forcing a change of shape of what was a rectangle.
As can be seen, because the bottom side now is shorter there is naturally a downward force applied to the trailer's drawbar.
This downward force on the drawbar naturally applies weight to the van's axle group.
And that is how a WDH works. Simple stuff. Cheers
P.S Please excuse the messy drawing, but drawing pictures never has been my strong point! Cheers
Do we need another WDH thread with two others currently active? All with disputed opinions in the last 24 hours.
Don't like it? Don't read it. Simples.
KJB said
01:38 PM Oct 24, 2023
Brodie Allen wrote:
Not so, but leave it at that. Neither adds or detracts.
Maybe you could see one in operation and work it
out in your head? It only twists the ball forward at the top
and rearward at the bottom.
B
-- Edited by Brodie Allen on Tuesday 24th of October 2023 11:35:34 AM
If your Tow Ball is "twisting forward" you have a major, possibly catastrophic, malfunction of your Tow Bar.....stop using now and get its operation checked by a mechanic/engineer - someone who understands its operation. I have seen this a few years back , the owner was completely oblivious to what was happening and the Tow bar had fractured all of the cars Tow bar mounting points..letting the Ball twist forward .Needless to say the cars complete tow bay plus the caravan were not far from parting company with the car and career off into whatever. A WDH was in place.
Aussie1 said
02:40 PM Oct 24, 2023
yobarr wrote:
Are We Lost wrote:
Do we need another WDH thread with two others currently active? All with disputed opinions in the last 24 hours.
It's interesting who you sometimes run into when traveling.
We pulled up at a free campsite at Coolgardie last week, which is about 3000 km from home. There was one other van parked there. The owner came out to say gooday. It turned out to be our favorite, "The Great Yobarr". We had a nice chat over a cup of coffee and it turns out that he remembered me from my number plate "2TROUT" as he had sent me some very valuable information about tow weights about 2 years earlier.
Lovely to have met you in person and I look forward to some more valuable feedback in the future.
I presume that the site was big enough for the road train? (vbg)
Likewise Trevor. Great to meet you and Shirley, and to see that you and your dogs are enjoying your travels.
Not often I bother other free-campers but as soon as I saw your numberplate I remembered you seeking advice on your purchase of the Silverado 1500, so I decided to see how it all had worked out fir you.
Somewhere I still have your phone number so if I ever get back to Victoria I will give you a call. Take care. Cheers
Yes Phil, the site certainly is big enough for a Road train, but I am back travelling in the car for now. Got sick of same stuff every day so chucked it in and left town. There is a huge number of vacancies for Roadtrain drivers, so I may do another stint later this year.
Planned to do Great Central road but a friend who is presently travelling wants to meet me in Perth early November, by which time it'll be getting a bit hot out in Central Oz, so I'll wait until next March-April before setting off on that road.Cheers
On a motorcycle forum many years ago I was dealing daily with a Yobarr type character. We had the same level of differences, opinions, angst, the occasional insults and even abuse. Then we met and he was a totally different person than I had been conversing with. Perhaps there's hope. I can be so optimistic :)
Careful Trevor, Yobarrs' head will swell up and won't be able to fit it in his 79 Tojo.
X2 :)
Someone says something nice about someone, then the detractors come out. :(
Who's bringing the beer? Although sometimes I suspect that your posts are simply baiting me, and are suitably ignored, always I am happy to meet fellow Grey Nomads for a chat, and to compare notes.
Always I offer help with weights, but sometimes someone wants to argue the point over things that they don't really understand.
This is where trouble starts! Despite our differences your posts suggest to me that you're a man of some intelligence, which is great because I don't suffer fools gladly.
As far as firewood goes, that should be easily obtained as I carry a chainsaw, a reciprocating saw, a bow saw and a couple of axes, one being a hatchet. Take care. Cheers
P.S Sad to see that Mr Toyota has chosen, after 40 years, to spoil the venerable 70 series by offering a silly little 4 cylinder Buzz Box engine and, horror of horrors, a slush-box transmission. Spare me!
You can be sure that I'll be keeping my little V8 until it is my time to make the journey we all will make.
NOT MY 79.
-- Edited by yobarr on Tuesday 26th of September 2023 10:57:18 AM
Yobarr, I admit not knowing weights as much as yourself. It's never been about weights nor your knowledge of them, it's your delivery to the responses that I find harsh but helping others trumps all that. But I still doubt you've succumbed to the reality of light vans having light towball weights. 9th paragraph https://rvbooks.com.au/caravan-tow-ball-weight/ Nevertheless we could easily chew the cud over a Cinzano, the only drink we drink unless its someone elses. But we are in SW Victoria but it just might happen one day. You can talk road trains and I can talk about my past professions.... which to date havent been public. When it does you can test drive our NQ5 GT sportage diesel and Jurgens Sungazer... while I drink your beer at cruising speed and I wont spill a drop... Tony
Very thoughtful of you! Used to drink VB although now mainly 4X, but not common in WA, so Great Northern or JD.
My responses may appear 'harsh' but I easily tire of arguing facts with people who think they know stuff, but don't.
When I joined the forum some 5 years ago and dared to show how a WDH really works I was attacked and abused from all sides. Nobody could understand that a WDH increases the weight of a caravan by putting around 30% of the weight that it transfers from the car's rear axle, to the van's axle group.
It does this because a WDH DOES NOT change towball weight, so obviously if weight on wheels increases, so does total weight.
Slowly it has been accepted that this is exactly what happens, as evidenced by several members now posting exactly that in their valuable contributions.
My representations regarding the inability of an LC200 to safely and legally tow 3500kg as a PIG trailer were met with similar disdain until other members came out in my support.
Among my many files I have kept copies of many of those supporting posts.
Unfortunately, in my travels hardly a day goes by when at least one of these cars, with a boat on its roof and bicycles hanging off the back of the van, along with jerry cans etc pulls in to the camp I'm in.
And don't they get cranky when this is pointed out to them. Rarely do I approach others in the camp but regularly people visit me to enquire about my Solar setup, and the conversation soon moves to weights when they query the weight of 6x275 watt panels.
There are a couple of other things that regularly put me at odds with others. C'est la vie! Cheers
P.S What general area are you in in SW Victoria? Waaay back I once worked at Rosedale.
Rosedale is SE Victoria, I'm in Camperdown between Colac and Warrnambool. I built this house 3 years ago so was 64yo when I did that, too old so paid the price physically but nearly mended. The 2nd house I have built.
People do think they know things when they dont know enough of what they should know. Then, there is the general defiance that grumpy old men have when they get educated. I wrote and article once (one of 300) on that topic "talking to men, some tips". Many women thanked me, trouble was it was meant for men on how to talk to each other often about mental health or safety items/activity. Some men that are spoken to wont take any advice if they feel even slightly humiliated. Sad but true. Giving advice to a caravanner with a tinny on the top and overloaded, the pleasure would be in the likelihood they'll take the advice and save a head on collision. But if they ignore advice because they felt like a boy in a primary school, the objectivity is lost. Women are different especially in the towing game, all that I've met have been appreciative just like the one you assisted recently.
Regards Tony
Small world. I used to operate an excavator in the Otway Ranges, maintaining roads, drains, embankments etc. Based in Colac and drove out to the jobsites each morning, in the freezing cold and deep mud. Not much fun so I soon got out of there though. Cheers
Anyone who drinks Great Northern deserves a medal & anyone who drinks Great Northern and likes it should see a Beerologist.
I thought I was a beerologist. When I separated from my first wife, I'd make home brew, coopers). Made it in my van annex. Then went to work at midnight. When I arrived back at the van park there was a distinct smell of beer. Overnight half of those bottles exploded. The manager wasnt amused so we came to an agreement. Each time he was on the ride on mower I'd hand him a long neck. Worked out well. But my best brew was Cumquat liquor. Get a sherry bottle, half filled with Cumquats pricked with a toothpick, half fill with sugar and fill it up with sweet sherry... minimum 6 months and ..mmmmm
Hi Eaglemax,
Camperdown eh!
I don't suppose that you have heard of Pomborneit North (state school no. 3898)? Or have you ever fished Purrumbete or Bullen Merri? I love the bakery opposite the theatre in Manifold Street.
Cheers,
Trevor
Hi Trevor,
Only been here 3 years. Came from Euroa before that. Only just taken up fishing as was at Wellington Lake recently and saw fish, large ones jumping out into the air, thought gee, theres dinner right there. Yesterday went to the lake cafe and saw a few boats out there. Bakery is good, nice bread.
Tony
Is Yobarr as grumpy looking as he sounds? :)
Yobarr - given the risk of starting something that will likely go on forever, regarding your statement that a WDH increases the weight on the trailer wheels, I note that there is no additional weight on the hitch (ball). I have an Anderson hitch, and it functions only as a lever to twist the towball forwards at the top and rearwards at the bottom. all that does is transfer the "moments" forward in the tug which lessens the downward moments on the rear of the tug. No effect on the trailer whatsoever. Tell me how I'm wrong. B Writing from Doomadgee - nobody gives a stuff about the "Voice" here.
Brodie I also have the Andersen Hitch and we just completed the big lap using it, I used a HR torsion bar type WDH with our old van. In my opinion (although a little more expensive) the Andersen felt a lot better and the plus is its a bit lighter and easier to use. I changed from drinking XXXX Gold to Great Northern Super Crisp years ago which I could get anywhere we went in Australia. I made the comment to my wife while in Qld that most of the pubs in that state now advertise Great Northern where a few years ago it was mainly XXXX. In WA where we lived 40 odd years ago I bought a carton of bush chook just for old times sake it took me a bit to get used to the taste again but I soldiered on..
BB
-- Edited by The Belmont Bear on Monday 16th of October 2023 10:02:53 AM
-- Edited by The Belmont Bear on Monday 16th of October 2023 10:03:36 AM
Totally true but those beers, bad as they are, are a huge step up from xxxx. Nobody, BUT nobody with an ounce of sanity drinks xxxx, which should really drop one of the exes from it's brand name to reveal the nature of it's true ingredients...
Hi Brodie, Unfortunately I am not familiar with the workings of an Anderson WDH, but a quick chat with Mr Google soon showed me that there is NO WAY that this bit of gear doesn't apply extra weight to the van's axle group.
The brackets pulling down on the drawbar see to that. Cheers
Not so, but leave it at that. Neither adds or detracts.
Maybe you could see one in operation and work it
out in your head? It only twists the ball forward at the top
and rearward at the bottom.
B
-- Edited by Brodie Allen on Tuesday 24th of October 2023 11:35:34 AM
Do we need another WDH thread with two others currently active? All with disputed opinions in the last 24 hours.
Surely you jest? The towball is fixed to the shank, a solid bar that is inserted into the receiver in the car's towbar.
It does not 'twist' forward or rearward.
The chains are the only flexible side of a 4 sided figure (rectangle?) that otherwise has 3 solid sides that cannot have their overall length altered when the 4th side (Chain) is shortened.
Shortening the chains results in the 4th side becoming shorter and forcing a change of shape of what was a rectangle.
As can be seen, because the bottom side now is shorter there is naturally a downward force applied to the trailer's drawbar.
This downward force on the drawbar naturally applies weight to the van's axle group.
And that is how a WDH works. Simple stuff. Cheers
P.S Please excuse the messy drawing, but drawing pictures never has been my strong point! Cheers
Don't like it? Don't read it. Simples.
If your Tow Ball is "twisting forward" you have a major, possibly catastrophic, malfunction of your Tow Bar.....stop using now and get its operation checked by a mechanic/engineer - someone who understands its operation. I have seen this a few years back , the owner was completely oblivious to what was happening and the Tow bar had fractured all of the cars Tow bar mounting points..letting the Ball twist forward .Needless to say the cars complete tow bay plus the caravan were not far from parting company with the car and career off into whatever. A WDH was in place.
X2 Agree, very Simples.