Does anyone know of a supplier for the old fashioned canvas water bags.
My late cousin had 40,000 acres on the Carinda Road at Warren and also 25,000 acres on lease in the Macquarie Marshes opposite their property.
On occasions when he dropped in at home whilst he was traveling when I was a kid I always recall he had an old canvas water bag or two on his roo bars. They were always cold and I was enthralled by them and still have some old fond memories of such things.
Also loved the old Bren Gun carrier he had in the shed he used to muster cattle with in the marshes!!!!
Since I have installed the "tradies" canopy on the back of the new Isuzu ute I have noticed a "drum" effect between the cabin and the steel canopy only around 90 to 100KPH. It is not too bad but is noticeable more so than the nil drum effect pre canopy.
So I was going to experiment with a few obstacles to see if I block some of the wind flow and it may reduce the drum effect?
Wondered if two of those old water bags would fill the gap and adjust the breeze somewhat and give me some cool camping water on long trips???
I have googled the usual suspects, Tentworld, BCF etc and the old canvas water bags appear to be out of vogue somewhat.
That Trailblazer looks the goods. I notice they come in Small/Medium/Large.
Think I will trial something between the cabin and canopy on a trip to Orange next Tuesday and leave the radio off to see if something like a water bag interferes with the drum?
Thanks for your suggestion.
Long Weekend said
06:14 PM Jan 4, 2024
The water in canvas bags is kept cool by the evaporation of the water that seeps through the bag type canvas. In fact, when first filled the water pours through the weave until the water causes the bag material to swell up. They work quite well hanging under a verandah, caravan awning or tree branch - always have cool water on tap as it were.
However, when mounted on the front bull or roo bars the wind speed while driving accelerates the evaporation so when you stop after three or four hours driving and go to the front for a cool drink you will find the water bag totally empty!
I found that out very early in my outback driving.
Hence the reason why you never see any water bags mounted on the front of vehicles these days - water bottles in an Esky inside are the way to go now.
Rmoor's idea of placing a water bag between the cabin and canopy out of the wind slipstream, thus reducing the wind blowing over the wet bag material might work.
Murray
Are We Lost said
07:05 PM Jan 4, 2024
Long Weekend wrote:
Rmoor's idea of placing a water bag between the cabin and canopy out of the wind slipstream, thus reducing the wind blowing over the wet bag material might work.
Possibly but I doubt it. The partially waterproof barrier of the canvas works because of the water's surface tension. If you touch the bag, your fingers will be wet because you break that surface tension. With the bag touching the cabin and canopy there will be a constant dribble of water until it empties. My belief anyway, not from experience.
rmoor said
02:53 PM Jan 5, 2024
I guess I might buy one and solve the question!!
Trip to Orange on Tuesday for a cousins funeral I am thinking of taping some foam or something in the gap (relatively non dangerous if it worked loose) to see if the (minor) drum effect is lessened?
It is not really THAT noticeable but I am planning a few long trips in the near future and I think the humm/drum could be a bit annoying on a long trip. Also conscious not to have too much speaker volume in the cabin. Gave myself a Tinnitus scare a few years ago with Rose Tattoo way too loud!!!
Off to Wee Jasper soon, then chase some trout and lose some golf balls at Tumut, over 60's cricket comeback Benalla and then after that a return from retirement for an 0ver 60's carnival at Echuca with Vic country mid March.
Have the canopy now, my old tinnie, a new inflatable kayak, new ute and modest little Roadstar, so have the means now, will travel!!!
Think I will get a water bag anyway, I think it is the nostalgia also for such a rare old fashioned item.
Long Weekend said
05:10 PM Jan 5, 2024
I should have also mentioned that the water from the bags always has a slight hessian taste?
The taste lessens over time. The old timers didn't mind as long as the water was cool.
Murray
Whenarewethere said
05:50 PM Jan 5, 2024
What about sticking a Sigg aluminium water bottle in a large cotton sock & soak it.
Personally I use the fridge, it works quickly, & have a few smaller bottles to rotate usage.
Does anyone know of a supplier for the old fashioned canvas water bags.
My late cousin had 40,000 acres on the Carinda Road at Warren and also 25,000 acres on lease in the Macquarie Marshes opposite their property.
On occasions when he dropped in at home whilst he was traveling when I was a kid I always recall he had an old canvas water bag or two on his roo bars. They were always cold and I was enthralled by them and still have some old fond memories of such things.
Also loved the old Bren Gun carrier he had in the shed he used to muster cattle with in the marshes!!!!
Since I have installed the "tradies" canopy on the back of the new Isuzu ute I have noticed a "drum" effect between the cabin and the steel canopy only around 90 to 100KPH. It is not too bad but is noticeable more so than the nil drum effect pre canopy.
So I was going to experiment with a few obstacles to see if I block some of the wind flow and it may reduce the drum effect?
Wondered if two of those old water bags would fill the gap and adjust the breeze somewhat and give me some cool camping water on long trips???
I have googled the usual suspects, Tentworld, BCF etc and the old canvas water bags appear to be out of vogue somewhat.
Thanks BT50 Dave.
That Trailblazer looks the goods. I notice they come in Small/Medium/Large.
Think I will trial something between the cabin and canopy on a trip to Orange next Tuesday and leave the radio off to see if something like a water bag interferes with the drum?
Thanks for your suggestion.
However, when mounted on the front bull or roo bars the wind speed while driving accelerates the evaporation so when you stop after three or four hours driving and go to the front for a cool drink you will find the water bag totally empty!
I found that out very early in my outback driving.
Hence the reason why you never see any water bags mounted on the front of vehicles these days - water bottles in an Esky inside are the way to go now.
Rmoor's idea of placing a water bag between the cabin and canopy out of the wind slipstream, thus reducing the wind blowing over the wet bag material might work.
Murray
Possibly but I doubt it. The partially waterproof barrier of the canvas works because of the water's surface tension. If you touch the bag, your fingers will be wet because you break that surface tension. With the bag touching the cabin and canopy there will be a constant dribble of water until it empties. My belief anyway, not from experience.
Trip to Orange on Tuesday for a cousins funeral I am thinking of taping some foam or something in the gap (relatively non dangerous if it worked loose) to see if the (minor) drum effect is lessened?
It is not really THAT noticeable but I am planning a few long trips in the near future and I think the humm/drum could be a bit annoying on a long trip. Also conscious not to have too much speaker volume in the cabin. Gave myself a Tinnitus scare a few years ago with Rose Tattoo way too loud!!!
Off to Wee Jasper soon, then chase some trout and lose some golf balls at Tumut, over 60's cricket comeback Benalla and then after that a return from retirement for an 0ver 60's carnival at Echuca with Vic country mid March.
Have the canopy now, my old tinnie, a new inflatable kayak, new ute and modest little Roadstar, so have the means now, will travel!!!
Think I will get a water bag anyway, I think it is the nostalgia also for such a rare old fashioned item.
The taste lessens over time. The old timers didn't mind as long as the water was cool.
Murray
What about sticking a Sigg aluminium water bottle in a large cotton sock & soak it.
Personally I use the fridge, it works quickly, & have a few smaller bottles to rotate usage.