about to pick up our new-to-us 2018 Crusader Musketeer, towing with a Landcruiser 200 VX series. We were recommended Brunsgaard but they are no longer being sold in Australia.
MSA and Clearview were also recommended but I dont want to pay $800+ as we wont be out on the road full time.
So now deciding between San Hima and Milenco. Does any one have any experience with San Hima?
cheers Karen
rgren2 said
01:04 PM Mar 26, 2024
You have a $100k vehicle and you want to cheap out on a safety item.
Long Weekend said
02:09 PM Mar 26, 2024
No experience with San Hima mirrors.
But about seven years ago I put Clearviews on our Ranger. When not towing the Clearviews are excellent mirrors to use in city traffic.
That means that the Clearviews are on the road full time and so have not been wasted.
Murray
DMaxer said
02:22 PM Mar 26, 2024
Hi Karen and welcome to the forum. I have the Milenco mirrors and they are really good. They fit onto your outside mirrors easily and then just tighten up the little thumb screws and away you go. They don't get blown around by passing trucks or winds and are large enough to see all behind you,
The only downside is that unlike Clearview you need to remove them when not towing. I cannot help you with the other brand though.
Are We Lost said
02:40 PM Mar 26, 2024
I have Milenco Grand Aero mirrors. I chose the flat glass for better distance perspective.
According to this video, the model marked "flat glass" is now a hybrid .... flat for most of it, but convex around the edges. To me that sounds like a great compromise. In comparison the San Hima has a very small convex section, which I doubt would be very helpful. You still have the original mirrors to give a normal full view, so those small sections seem superfluous.
With these detachable mirrors there is a slight vibration but it does not take long to get used to it. I don't notice it anymore.
I actually lost one of my Grand Aeros and to get me out of trouble I bought a cheap no name rubber strap mounted one from an auto parts shop. The best I can say it is useful for such emergencies only. I then found a set of Milenco Falcon mirrors on special. The heads are too small and the shorter arms may be a few mm too short to be fully compliant.
If the above comments do not answer your question on San Hima, the mirror head appears to be a similar size to the (too small) Milenco Falcon ... the flat section a lot smaller. That and the hybrid glass in the Milencos would be a decision maker for me to pay the higher price for Milencos.
Finally, I find when driving that I still use the original vehicle mirrors by preference most of the time. The detachable ones are useful when manoeuvering, but mostly they are just there to be legal. Also, I attach them onto the underside of the mirror. That way there is less obstruction of forward vision. I have no interest in getting the ugly permanently mounted ones. Maybe if I was towing most if the time I would.
KazzaR said
04:43 PM Mar 26, 2024
hi All
thanks to those who replied, especially Are_We_Lost for your comparison.
I'll look into the Milenco Grand Aeros
Happy Traveling
Karen
Dougwe said
05:00 PM Mar 26, 2024
Welcome to the gang Karen, enjoy here and out in the playground.
Just before you go out buying and for what it's worth, I fitted Clearview Mirrors to my Colorado Dual Cab Ute way back in 2014 when it was a newborn. Not once have I regreted it. If you have electric fold in mirrors now you can get the electric fold in Clearview which would be even better than my manual fold in. I would safely say they are the best investment I have made and I tell you that for free. They are that good, I never leave home without them.
Keep Safe on the roads and out there.
Possum3 said
11:12 PM Mar 26, 2024
I also use the Milenco Aeros - great stable rearview mirror - They fold in on locking perfectly as well.
I specifically didn't want the elephant ears (Clearviews) they make the Y62 too wide for comfortable driving within the lanes.
shakey55 said
04:52 AM Mar 27, 2024
I had Clearview on my Patrol (recently sold). On the Ford Ranger I was going to put Clearview on, but decided to not turn the vehicle into Dumbo, so after extensive reviews I went with Milenco. I find them just fine and very easy to set up.
Dick0 said
11:40 AM Mar 27, 2024
Hi Karen,
San Hima are great, I fitted them to my previous Ford Territory and to my current Jeep Grand Cherokee. Tough & robust.
Got mine on Ebay from SA Seller, who had the best price at around $450.00 pair. About half the price of Clearview and look the same.
You can get them matt black or chrome, with or without indicator.
If you have park sensors/cameras in mirrors, the self park or lane change features will not work.
StewG said
07:32 PM Mar 27, 2024
I have Milenco on my Disco 4 and have found them to be reasonably stable and and solid despite clamping on to the plastic rim on the tug mirrors. They are easy to fit and remove and have served me well so far.
Are We Lost said
08:01 PM Mar 27, 2024
Dick0 wrote:
San Hima are great, .............the best price at around $450.00 pair. About half the price of Clearview and look the same.
As Karen was asking about Milenco vs San Hima I am guessing she was thinking or the removable ones.
If I was thinking of fixed dumbo ears ones I would certainly consider San Hima.
Warren-Pat_01 said
06:53 PM Mar 30, 2024
Hi Karen,
Welcome to the GN Forum.
When we bought our new D-Max I found I couldn't use my previous mirrors due to different window rubbers so I bought Milenco mirrors - both they & Clearview had a good following here.
I found the Milenco shook constantly so I added a cross- support arm from a previous set of mirrors - that was ok until recently when the plastic (original) mirror frame started to crack. On the way home, I reverted back to the normal top mount & the shakes.
I saw an advert for MSA mirrors (have been looking for a while) & have ordered a set - they are a bit cheaper than Clearview.
My other grumble with Milenco is in inability to buy the smaller mirrors - I would have to buy a set!! Possibly they were the set I should have purchased originally.
Greg 1 said
12:58 PM Mar 31, 2024
I have the Millenco rand Aero and have found them very good.
I have done roughly 90,000 ks with them all over the continent and no issue.
They are probably the best of the removable type of mirror and mount and dismount easily and quickly, show only mild vibration over rough surfaces and are steady when large trucks pass.
But like most things, you get what you pay for and a removable mirror is never likely to be as good as a permanently fixed one like a Clearview or similar.
The Millenco Grand Aero probably are as close as you will get in a removable mirror.
I looked at the cost and also the width, and for me the Millenco's made sense but for others the Clearview type would have definitely some advantages.
200VX said
01:30 PM Apr 12, 2024
San Himas will do the job perfectly and wont peel powdercoat after a few years. Like the Clearviews. And less than half price
hi All
about to pick up our new-to-us 2018 Crusader Musketeer, towing with a Landcruiser 200 VX series. We were recommended Brunsgaard but they are no longer being sold in Australia.
MSA and Clearview were also recommended but I dont want to pay $800+ as we wont be out on the road full time.
So now deciding between San Hima and Milenco. Does any one have any experience with San Hima?
cheers
Karen
But about seven years ago I put Clearviews on our Ranger. When not towing the Clearviews are excellent mirrors to use in city traffic.
That means that the Clearviews are on the road full time and so have not been wasted.
Murray
Hi Karen and welcome to the forum. I have the Milenco mirrors and they are really good. They fit onto your outside mirrors easily and then just tighten up the little thumb screws and away you go. They don't get blown around by passing trucks or winds and are large enough to see all behind you,
The only downside is that unlike Clearview you need to remove them when not towing. I cannot help you with the other brand though.
I have Milenco Grand Aero mirrors. I chose the flat glass for better distance perspective.
According to this video, the model marked "flat glass" is now a hybrid .... flat for most of it, but convex around the edges. To me that sounds like a great compromise. In comparison the San Hima has a very small convex section, which I doubt would be very helpful. You still have the original mirrors to give a normal full view, so those small sections seem superfluous.
With these detachable mirrors there is a slight vibration but it does not take long to get used to it. I don't notice it anymore.
I actually lost one of my Grand Aeros and to get me out of trouble I bought a cheap no name rubber strap mounted one from an auto parts shop. The best I can say it is useful for such emergencies only. I then found a set of Milenco Falcon mirrors on special. The heads are too small and the shorter arms may be a few mm too short to be fully compliant.
If the above comments do not answer your question on San Hima, the mirror head appears to be a similar size to the (too small) Milenco Falcon ... the flat section a lot smaller. That and the hybrid glass in the Milencos would be a decision maker for me to pay the higher price for Milencos.
Finally, I find when driving that I still use the original vehicle mirrors by preference most of the time. The detachable ones are useful when manoeuvering, but mostly they are just there to be legal. Also, I attach them onto the underside of the mirror. That way there is less obstruction of forward vision. I have no interest in getting the ugly permanently mounted ones. Maybe if I was towing most if the time I would.
thanks to those who replied, especially Are_We_Lost for your comparison.
I'll look into the Milenco Grand Aeros
Happy Traveling
Karen
Just before you go out buying and for what it's worth, I fitted Clearview Mirrors to my Colorado Dual Cab Ute way back in 2014 when it was a newborn. Not once have I regreted it. If you have electric fold in mirrors now you can get the electric fold in Clearview which would be even better than my manual fold in. I would safely say they are the best investment I have made and I tell you that for free. They are that good, I never leave home without them.
Keep Safe on the roads and out there.
I specifically didn't want the elephant ears (Clearviews) they make the Y62 too wide for comfortable driving within the lanes.
Hi Karen,
San Hima are great, I fitted them to my previous Ford Territory and to my current Jeep Grand Cherokee. Tough & robust.
Got mine on Ebay from SA Seller, who had the best price at around $450.00 pair. About half the price of Clearview and look the same.
You can get them matt black or chrome, with or without indicator.
If you have park sensors/cameras in mirrors, the self park or lane change features will not work.
As Karen was asking about Milenco vs San Hima I am guessing she was thinking or the removable ones.
If I was thinking of fixed dumbo ears ones I would certainly consider San Hima.
Welcome to the GN Forum.
When we bought our new D-Max I found I couldn't use my previous mirrors due to different window rubbers so I bought Milenco mirrors - both they & Clearview had a good following here.
I found the Milenco shook constantly so I added a cross- support arm from a previous set of mirrors - that was ok until recently when the plastic (original) mirror frame started to crack. On the way home, I reverted back to the normal top mount & the shakes.
I saw an advert for MSA mirrors (have been looking for a while) & have ordered a set - they are a bit cheaper than Clearview.
My other grumble with Milenco is in inability to buy the smaller mirrors - I would have to buy a set!! Possibly they were the set I should have purchased originally.