-- Edited by shakey55 on Wednesday 27th of March 2024 05:40:26 AM
dorian said
06:22 AM Mar 27, 2024
"The magpie is currently under the care of DESI. Unfortunately, it has been highly habituated to human contact and is not capable of being released back into the wild," the spokesperson said.
I understand why the government takes the view that it does, but now that the "damage" has been done and DESI is unable to release the bird into the wild, the most logical course of action would be to return it to the people who are best able to care for it. DESI's "care" would only be compounding the damage.
Possum3 said
07:52 AM Mar 27, 2024
Totally agree Dorian - I fail to see the difference between a "pet" magpie and a Native Parrot - Once it has been raised by an apparent loving family leave it there.
DESI actions in this matter are a total waste of public monies - a reaction to WOKE brigade publicity, no doubt.
dorian said
09:20 AM Mar 27, 2024
One of the concerns raised by DESI is the possibility of communicable diseases. Since the magpie flies away and returns after a few days, I guess there is a finite risk of bird flu or some other disease.
DMaxer said
10:09 AM Mar 27, 2024
I could understand their reaction if someone had a bird such as a wedge tailed eagle locked up in the parrot cage, but a magpie?
My old mum had a family of magpies living in her backyard and each generation was brought to the back door by the parents to meet mum and get a free handout. Mum would hand feed the lot of them and then they would visit the local neighbours for more of the same. The same arrangement was adopted by kookaburras and the butcher birds. The commonly sighted birds we see around the place are pretty sociable and seem to like interaction with humans, especially those that give them a feed every so often.
I imagine that this reaction was caused by some do gooder with too much time on their hands and after the report was lodged the DESI had little choice but to act. I see the bird was voluntarily surrendered so more than likely when the publicity wears off the young bloke will be returned to the people with advice not to post anything more about it on social media and just enjoy the bird's company privately.
dorian said
10:51 AM Mar 27, 2024
I recently had a run-in with officialdom at the local hospital. My mother had broken her hip and was hospitalised. One day she declined her dessert so I thought I would eat it, lest it go into the incinerator (I was thinking of the starving children in Africa). One of the caterers saw me and gave me a blast, but without giving a reason. In fact, I don't think she was aware of any reason. She just knew that visitors weren't supposed to eat the patients' food.
Some time later I saw her chatting with her supervisor and glancing in my direction. Her supervisor then came over to me and politely explained that, even though it seemed wasteful, eating the patient's food would give the catering staff a false idea of how much each patient ate. That was a partial explanation, so I asked one of the other caterers whether they took note of what was eaten. I was told that they roughly assessed the quantity that was consumed as a percentage, eg 100%, 50% and so on, and this went into the patient's record.
So this is one case where the rules ultimately made sense, even though initially they seemed nonsensical.
Whenarewethere said
10:57 PM Mar 27, 2024
Other half was in Royal North Shore Hospital (600 beds, 6000 staff) Sydney for a month, previously a number of times for weeks.
I brought in all sorts of real food to feed other half for lunch & dinner every single day. Have done it for years. The nurses said that was the best thing I could do.
The nurses simply asked what she was eating in volume & basic type of food groups. No issues whatsoever.
I basically ate the hospital food & other half had home made food.
I even do blood pressure & basic bandages for nurses on other half. Doctors know about it. No issues. They are very appreciative. Even disinfect the equipment we have contact with it.
Obviously a little Hit_er as compared to my experience of interaction with all the medical staff.
Ran into a Hospital Doctor the other day, we had a chat for 3 minutes in the main foyer about long term how other half is going. Also run into a few nurses we know but not regularly see, a friendly chat both ways interaction. Could ask for a nicer bunch of people.
There are are other families doing what I am doing to help out. I started doing it because of what I saw previous family patient help was being done.
I couldn't praise the medical staff / family helping out situation as anything other than brilliant.
DMaxer said
03:53 PM Apr 15, 2024
I see the bird and the dog have been reunited after the couple were granted a wildlife licence and gave an undertaking not to make any further financial gain or use the bird for commercial interests.
A nice happy ending.
Southern Cruizer said
05:21 PM Apr 15, 2024
DMaxer wrote:
I see the bird and the dog have been reunited after the couple were granted a wildlife licence and gave an undertaking not to make any further financial gain or use the bird for commercial interests.
A nice happy ending.
Yep, at last a bit of common sense being shown BUT there will always be one somewhere trying to pin something on them, you can bet on it. Be interesting to see what happens
Can you believe this rubbish from the - Queensland Department of Environment, Science and Innovation
A family does the right thing after a magpie falls from its nest, a friendship with their dog develops and then this utter rubbish.
The world has gone made (at least in QLD it has).
https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/magpie-molly-insta-famous-for-friendship-with-dog-peggy-seized-from-gold-coast-home-by-wildlife-officials-c-14088917
-- Edited by shakey55 on Wednesday 27th of March 2024 05:40:26 AM
I understand why the government takes the view that it does, but now that the "damage" has been done and DESI is unable to release the bird into the wild, the most logical course of action would be to return it to the people who are best able to care for it. DESI's "care" would only be compounding the damage.
DESI actions in this matter are a total waste of public monies - a reaction to WOKE brigade publicity, no doubt.
I could understand their reaction if someone had a bird such as a wedge tailed eagle locked up in the parrot cage, but a magpie?
My old mum had a family of magpies living in her backyard and each generation was brought to the back door by the parents to meet mum and get a free handout. Mum would hand feed the lot of them and then they would visit the local neighbours for more of the same. The same arrangement was adopted by kookaburras and the butcher birds. The commonly sighted birds we see around the place are pretty sociable and seem to like interaction with humans, especially those that give them a feed every so often.
I imagine that this reaction was caused by some do gooder with too much time on their hands and after the report was lodged the DESI had little choice but to act. I see the bird was voluntarily surrendered so more than likely when the publicity wears off the young bloke will be returned to the people with advice not to post anything more about it on social media and just enjoy the bird's company privately.
Some time later I saw her chatting with her supervisor and glancing in my direction. Her supervisor then came over to me and politely explained that, even though it seemed wasteful, eating the patient's food would give the catering staff a false idea of how much each patient ate. That was a partial explanation, so I asked one of the other caterers whether they took note of what was eaten. I was told that they roughly assessed the quantity that was consumed as a percentage, eg 100%, 50% and so on, and this went into the patient's record.
So this is one case where the rules ultimately made sense, even though initially they seemed nonsensical.
Other half was in Royal North Shore Hospital (600 beds, 6000 staff) Sydney for a month, previously a number of times for weeks.
I brought in all sorts of real food to feed other half for lunch & dinner every single day. Have done it for years. The nurses said that was the best thing I could do.
The nurses simply asked what she was eating in volume & basic type of food groups. No issues whatsoever.
I basically ate the hospital food & other half had home made food.
I even do blood pressure & basic bandages for nurses on other half. Doctors know about it. No issues. They are very appreciative. Even disinfect the equipment we have contact with it.
Obviously a little Hit_er as compared to my experience of interaction with all the medical staff.
Ran into a Hospital Doctor the other day, we had a chat for 3 minutes in the main foyer about long term how other half is going. Also run into a few nurses we know but not regularly see, a friendly chat both ways interaction. Could ask for a nicer bunch of people.
There are are other families doing what I am doing to help out. I started doing it because of what I saw previous family patient help was being done.
I couldn't praise the medical staff / family helping out situation as anything other than brilliant.
I see the bird and the dog have been reunited after the couple were granted a wildlife licence and gave an undertaking not to make any further financial gain or use the bird for commercial interests.
A nice happy ending.
Yep, at last a bit of common sense being shown BUT there will always be one somewhere trying to pin something on them, you can bet on it. Be interesting to see what happens