Have finally worked out some figures on Myrtles fuel consumption.
Not sure if this is good or bad but seems to be ok.
This is as accurate as I'm able to get using my navman I travelled 106.6 ks on a full tank.
When I refilled it took 17.89 litres.
Going by my estimation I'm using (about) 16 litres per 100ks.
How does that sound to anyone out there with more knowledge than me?
Dougwe said
06:30 PM Jan 4, 2012
I might be having a seniors moment Marj but me thinks Myrtle is a bit thirsty, I THINK around the 10lts per 100km is about good. Something like that anyway. Have a safe trip to Geelong although I think your are there already or been there done that.
bill12 said
06:37 PM Jan 4, 2012
Thats 18 m.p g , About average for a big 4 cylinder motor like yours. Diesels get better consumption , but the fuel is dearer.I get about 24mpg , loaded with the slide on. It also depends on which way the wind is blowing, and how fast you want to go. I try to do between 90 and 100kph. Going any faster uses fuel. Strangely enough, do 80 klms or less on dirt give me much better fuel figures.How fast were you going? 10 klms to the ltr is 29 mpg.Bill
-- Edited by bill12 on Wednesday 4th of January 2012 06:39:22 PM
-- Edited by bill12 on Wednesday 4th of January 2012 06:41:19 PM
03_troopy said
06:48 PM Jan 4, 2012
Happywanderer wrote:
Have finally worked out some figures on Myrtles fuel consumption.
Not sure if this is good or bad but seems to be ok.
This is as accurate as I'm able to get using my navman I travelled 106.6 ks on a full tank.
When I refilled it took 17.89 litres.
Going by my estimation I'm using (about) 16 litres per 100ks.
How does that sound to anyone out there with more knowledge than me?
With a 4.2L turbo diesel I get tha when towing a camper trailer at 100 to 120 KPH, normal driving I get 12.5L to 100K.
It does sound a bit thirsty.
-- Edited by 03_troopy on Wednesday 4th of January 2012 06:48:53 PM
jonathan said
06:49 PM Jan 4, 2012
Marj .. my average (with trailer) is about 11.3 ltrs per 100 k's ..
Jon
Happywanderer said
06:50 PM Jan 4, 2012
I was doing about 90 most of the way except for towns and intersections.
My S in L seemed to think it wasn't too bad. He said, You've got to remember she's built like a brick and its a rebuilt motor not a new one.
The tank holds 58 litres so my estimation is I'm getting around 325- 330 ks to the tank. Was hoping I was getting a bit more.
I wonder if I take Shebas suggestion and up the tyres to 40 from 36. She said she gets at least another 50ks having more air in the tyres.
Sheba said
06:51 PM Jan 4, 2012
Seems awfully high to me Marj. How many litres does the fuel tank hold ?
I'm getting around 100k's to 9 litres [Diesel though]. On the open road, I travel at 90.
On a full tank, I should get at least 700 k's.
Cheers,
Sheba.
-- Edited by Sheba on Wednesday 4th of January 2012 06:53:29 PM
Happywanderer said
06:51 PM Jan 4, 2012
All interesting replies so far. Thanks guys.
Happywanderer said
06:53 PM Jan 4, 2012
Seems everyone so far is getting between 9 - 13 litres per 100 ks.
Happywanderer said
06:56 PM Jan 4, 2012
Sorry Doug, I forgot to reply to your question. I'm heading down to Geelong next Saturday. Will do some more checks on a longer run.
Gerty Dancer said
06:58 PM Jan 4, 2012
Diesel gives much better distances per litre than petrol, but not sure if its the cheapest in the end, because its more expensive.
It might be a tad high, but as your SIL said, theres good reason for that. You might do a little bit better on a long drive compared with short trips and around town.
In diesel, thats about what the Prado uses when towing.
-- Edited by Gerty Dancer on Wednesday 4th of January 2012 07:04:34 PM
Honda Jazz 1.5lt petrol eng. 6.2lt/100 cannot tow caravan
Dusty
Happywanderer said
07:11 PM Jan 4, 2012
Gerty I did out of town, 53.3 one way and 53.3 back.
The longer trip on Saturday to Geelong, I expect it to tell a slightly different story. I wonder how much.
Landfall, I can understand that as my little hyundai who was 1.5 litre also, I used to have, I was getting 600 ks out of a full tank. She ran on the smell of an oily rag.
Poor old Myrtle is just that, old. 1981 who packed it in just after I bought her and nearly everything has had to be repaired or replaced since.
I'm not sure how I would compare this situation to diesel going by other comments.
Happywanderer said
08:02 PM Jan 4, 2012
Testing!! Billeeee is having problems posting photos
Ok, I'll take a guess here, I reckon you will get around 12lts per 100km going to Geelong Marj. I would expect that 16 lts for around your home area. Knowing your set up with Myrtle I would be happy with around the 10-12lts on a trip. Not a bad drive from E to G I did that when I left a few days after our little meeting. Have fun and keep safe out there.
Dougwe said
08:13 PM Jan 4, 2012
Happywanderer wrote:
Testing!! Billeeee is having problems posting photos
Goodness me it looks like Rosebud at xmas Marj. I know it's not though, it's GL, I did call in there on my way home after our meeting and was impressed, only a few happy campers then though.
Happywanderer said
08:13 PM Jan 4, 2012
Doug, my 106.6 ks was from Echuca to Greens Lake going the back way, all country.
Will be interesting with the geelong trip as just on 100 ks to bendigo for a start. Will leave here with a full tank and refill there for another testing.
Happywanderer said
08:14 PM Jan 4, 2012
Doug, I have camped there when I have been only one of three in total.
NYE they estimated 1000.
DeBe said
09:05 PM Jan 4, 2012
Years ago I had a Toyota Corona wagon with the same motor & got 10Liters /100Kms on long trips & 110Kms/hr. I would have thaught 16L/100Kms in your van as reasonable as it would be fairly heavy & box shaped in comparison to a what the toyota wagon was.
jonathan said
09:16 PM Jan 4, 2012
.. and I've camped there on 2 occasions all on my lonesome .. so it does happen ..
Cruising Granny said
09:17 PM Jan 4, 2012
With the added weight of the fit out and furnishings I'd suggest putting a bit more wind in your wheels Marj. They certainly seem to travel lighter and easier with more pressure in the tyres. You'd be surprised how much better it runs with that extra air. The wind wasn't very kind out that way either. If Myrtle is like Rosy, they drive like a house brick and with adverse winds fuel consumption goes over the top. Experiment a little with speeds - eg 90KPH vs 85 KPH. That vehicle is not designed for speed, only practicality. Give it a go in more favourable conditions with the extra air in tyres, the adjusted speed on a calmer day, and not so hot. The soft bitumen can also affect how the tyres travel on the road surface. It's all relative.
blaze said
09:19 PM Jan 4, 2012
New motor will still be a bit tight, I think you are marginly high but not by much. Dont think you will see 12l/100km unless coasting down a long hill. I think if you see 14l/100km you should be happy cheers blaze
HeadnHome said
09:23 PM Jan 4, 2012
I'll have to try and check mine out marg, but I reckon she will also be a bit on the thirsty side, again her age and weight is against her... doesn't do to bad when good driving conditions and on the flat, but where I live the big hills slow her down a bit and chew the juice!!
Beth54 said
09:26 PM Jan 4, 2012
Yes, the boxy shape wouldn't be great for fuel economy. In my humble opinion, it does seem a bit high Marj.
I didn't do a proper test when I took the Nipper up to Tin Can Bay, but I did notice that I went through a lot more fuel towing. I expected that though. It'll just be trial and error, I guess, when I start tripping in her.
I'll have to try and check mine out marg, but I reckon she will also be a bit on the thirsty side, again her age and weight is against her... doesn't do to bad when good driving conditions and on the flat, but where I live the big hills slow her down a bit and chew the juice!!
Honi, when Lesley got her Getz I thought it'd struggle with the range, but apparently not. When I went up, I came in from Ravenshoe, which is not such a steep slug...and I only had my little Gypsy Camper then.
Happywanderer said
09:30 PM Jan 4, 2012
A lot of helpful answers here guys. Tomorrow I will put more air in the tyres, thats the first thing. I'm thinking I might improve a little on 16 litres to the 100 ks but can't expect huge results. In different situations of course., Less wind, different road surfaces etc. That sounds about right doesn't it??
beiffe said
10:03 PM Jan 4, 2012
When you are travelling full time the fuel economy is not really a consideration.
You travel when you want to tavel and sit when you don't want to travel or find a great spot. The difference in a litre or two per 100ks means only a few dollars and if it is twice a week on average it may mount to $10 for the week.
My average fuel bill for my old Mazda T3500 3.5 litre diesel about 4 tonne pulling a trailer was just over $70 a week for the whole year. When you are just cruising you don't travel a lot, you relax and live so if you are happy with your rig and your can enjoy your travelling then get out there and do it as the money you leave behind you in the end is wasted and I would bet your Kids will soon use it.
Join the SKIN club and go.
Regards Brian
Happywanderer said
10:21 PM Jan 4, 2012
You are so right beiffe, Once you are out on the road it really isn't a consideration.
The only reason I have been trying to work it out, well a couple of reasons really. I think my fuel gauge is out, as when it gets to half full it only takes about 22 litres. And when it shows empty there is still about 20 litres in there. So I can never work out just whats happening. And when I need to refill. Also on my first trip to Qld I thought I was getting around 400 ks out of a full tank, which doesn't seem possible now. Also my odometer doesn't work. So you can see I have to do a lot of guess work.
Tank holds 58 litres.
Boroma577 said
10:44 PM Jan 4, 2012
I also support the more air in the tyres theory which should not only improve your fuel consumption but also increase the life of your tyres.
My best cruising speed for the best fuel consumption towing a very heavy van with an ATM of 3500kg with a diesel Landcruiser is 88kph
My consumption when towing can vary from 17/100 to 22/100. There are lots of variants to consider and the drive you do today can vary quite considerably to the same drive you do tomorrow.
Weather conditions play a big role in fuel consumption.
Sometimes you may not quite fill the tank as much one time as you do another.
Even things like the size of your tyres/wheels can and does impact on your fuel consumption.
IMO and not knowing the GVM of Myrtle, I would consider 16/100 quite reasonable. I think you SiL is right on the money HW.
Have finally worked out some figures on Myrtles fuel consumption.
Not sure if this is good or bad but seems to be ok.
This is as accurate as I'm able to get using my navman I travelled 106.6 ks on a full tank.
When I refilled it took 17.89 litres.
Going by my estimation I'm using (about) 16 litres per 100ks.
How does that sound to anyone out there with more knowledge than me?
Thats 18 m.p g , About average for a big 4 cylinder motor like yours. Diesels get better consumption , but the fuel is dearer.I get about 24mpg , loaded with the slide on. It also depends on which way the wind is blowing, and how fast you want to go. I try to do between 90 and 100kph. Going any faster uses fuel. Strangely enough, do 80 klms or less on dirt give me much better fuel figures.How fast were you going? 10 klms to the ltr is 29 mpg.Bill
-- Edited by bill12 on Wednesday 4th of January 2012 06:39:22 PM
-- Edited by bill12 on Wednesday 4th of January 2012 06:41:19 PM
With a 4.2L turbo diesel I get tha when towing a camper trailer at 100 to 120 KPH, normal driving I get 12.5L to 100K.
It does sound a bit thirsty.
-- Edited by 03_troopy on Wednesday 4th of January 2012 06:48:53 PM
Marj .. my average (with trailer) is about 11.3 ltrs per 100 k's ..
Jon
My S in L seemed to think it wasn't too bad. He said, You've got to remember she's built like a brick and its a rebuilt motor not a new one.
The tank holds 58 litres so my estimation is I'm getting around 325- 330 ks to the tank. Was hoping I was getting a bit more.
I wonder if I take Shebas suggestion and up the tyres to 40 from 36. She said she gets at least another 50ks having more air in the tyres.
Seems awfully high to me Marj. How many litres does the fuel tank hold ?
I'm getting around 100k's to 9 litres [Diesel though]. On the open road, I travel at 90.
On a full tank, I should get at least 700 k's.
Cheers,
Sheba.
-- Edited by Sheba on Wednesday 4th of January 2012 06:53:29 PM
Diesel gives much better distances per litre than petrol, but not sure if its the cheapest in the end, because its more expensive.
It might be a tad high, but as your SIL said, theres good reason for that. You might do a little bit better on a long drive compared with short trips and around town.
In diesel, thats about what the Prado uses when towing.
-- Edited by Gerty Dancer on Wednesday 4th of January 2012 07:04:34 PM
That's definetly high.
Falcon XR6Turbo 14.5lt/100 towing caravan 17.5lt/100
MB ML270 CDI (diesel) 8.9lt/100 towing caravan 14.5lt/100
Honda Jazz 1.5lt petrol eng. 6.2lt/100 cannot tow caravan
Dusty
The longer trip on Saturday to Geelong, I expect it to tell a slightly different story. I wonder how much.
Landfall, I can understand that as my little hyundai who was 1.5 litre also, I used to have, I was getting 600 ks out of a full tank. She ran on the smell of an oily rag.
Poor old Myrtle is just that, old. 1981 who packed it in just after I bought her and nearly everything has had to be repaired or replaced since.
I'm not sure how I would compare this situation to diesel going by other comments.
Testing!! Billeeee is having problems posting photos
Goodness me it looks like Rosebud at xmas Marj. I know it's not though, it's GL, I did call in there on my way home after our meeting and was impressed, only a few happy campers then though.
Will be interesting with the geelong trip as just on 100 ks to bendigo for a start. Will leave here with a full tank and refill there for another testing.
NYE they estimated 1000.
Years ago I had a Toyota Corona wagon with the same motor & got 10Liters /100Kms on long trips & 110Kms/hr. I would have thaught 16L/100Kms in your van as reasonable as it would be fairly heavy & box shaped in comparison to a what the toyota wagon was.
.. and I've camped there on 2 occasions all on my lonesome .. so it does happen ..
They certainly seem to travel lighter and easier with more pressure in the tyres. You'd be surprised how much better it runs with that extra air.
The wind wasn't very kind out that way either. If Myrtle is like Rosy, they drive like a house brick and with adverse winds fuel consumption goes over the top.
Experiment a little with speeds - eg 90KPH vs 85 KPH. That vehicle is not designed for speed, only practicality. Give it a go in more favourable conditions with the extra air in tyres, the adjusted speed on a calmer day, and not so hot. The soft bitumen can also affect how the tyres travel on the road surface.
It's all relative.
cheers
blaze
Yes, the boxy shape wouldn't be great for fuel economy. In my humble opinion, it does seem a bit high Marj.
I didn't do a proper test when I took the Nipper up to Tin Can Bay, but I did notice that I went through a lot more fuel towing. I expected that though. It'll just be trial and error, I guess, when I start tripping in her.
Normally Lucy...Hyundai i30...is really economical.
Honi, when Lesley got her Getz I thought it'd struggle with the range, but apparently not. When I went up, I came in from Ravenshoe, which is not such a steep slug...and I only had my little Gypsy Camper then.
Tomorrow I will put more air in the tyres, thats the first thing.
I'm thinking I might improve a little on 16 litres to the 100 ks but can't expect huge results. In different situations of course., Less wind, different road surfaces etc.
That sounds about right doesn't it??
You travel when you want to tavel and sit when you don't want to travel or find a great spot. The difference in a litre or two per 100ks means only a few dollars and if it is twice a week on average it may mount to $10 for the week.
My average fuel bill for my old Mazda T3500 3.5 litre diesel about 4 tonne pulling a trailer was just over $70 a week for the whole year. When you are just cruising you don't travel a lot, you relax and live so if you are happy with your rig and your can enjoy your travelling then get out there and do it as the money you leave behind you in the end is wasted and I would bet your Kids will soon use it.
Join the SKIN club and go.
Regards
Brian
The only reason I have been trying to work it out, well a couple of reasons really.
I think my fuel gauge is out, as when it gets to half full it only takes about 22 litres. And when it shows empty there is still about 20 litres in there. So I can never work out just whats happening. And when I need to refill.
Also on my first trip to Qld I thought I was getting around 400 ks out of a full tank, which doesn't seem possible now.
Also my odometer doesn't work. So you can see I have to do a lot of guess work.
Tank holds 58 litres.
I also support the more air in the tyres theory which should not only improve your fuel consumption but also increase the life of your tyres.
My best cruising speed for the best fuel consumption towing a very heavy van with an ATM of 3500kg with a diesel Landcruiser is 88kph
My consumption when towing can vary from 17/100 to 22/100. There are lots of variants to consider and the drive you do today can vary quite considerably to the same drive you do tomorrow.
Weather conditions play a big role in fuel consumption.
Sometimes you may not quite fill the tank as much one time as you do another.
Even things like the size of your tyres/wheels can and does impact on your fuel consumption.
IMO and not knowing the GVM of Myrtle, I would consider 16/100 quite reasonable. I think you SiL is right on the money HW.