Wombat, I don't know if genuine or not but I got an email from a friend that looked suspicious and when I checked with her someone had hijacked her account.
The hijacker used the address book of the account holder to send emails to. Definitely check it out before doing what it says.
-- Edited by jetj on Friday 30th of November 2012 07:58:39 PM
Nomad246 said
08:12 PM Nov 30, 2012
_wombat_ wrote: ~~~ Not Clearly~~~
Hi Guys
Yes I know this is not caravan related and should be in I Digress BUT I wanted feedback from all memebers that use Hotmail, and not all members go to I Digress or the Tech Support post's. Having said that I now think it IS caravan related and should go in General as a lot off members use Hotmail when on the road.
Today I got this from Hotmail (see pic) anybody ever had the same?
I have not clicked on the Next button yet.
Womby, the General Forum is for "A friendly forum where you can seek advice, exchange tips and share experiences about the grey nomad lifestyle"
that would include caravans but not be limited to caravans.
Ref your question, did you get this message when you logged into your Hotmail account, or was it delivered to another email address that is registered with your hotmail (now Live Mail) account?
If it was sent to another email addy outside hotmail it is definitely spam and DO NOT follow the link.
If it was your start up page as you were entering Hotmail it has been happening as the new "Live" setup tries to better identify their users. Try to skip it to get to your account without providing additional info for a free account.
Cheers
-- Edited by Nomad246 on Friday 30th of November 2012 08:14:13 PM
Baz421 said
08:31 PM Nov 30, 2012
In a new "twist' to these phishing schemes we see these days, I had SMS on phone form Western Union trying to suck me in,,, same old same old.
HOWEVER, the TWIST is that a couple of days later an SMS says you may have recieved xxxxx from Western Union and it's a scam, please respond to ensure you are not involved (or words to this effect).
Good try eh, send the spam and then tell you later it's a con (especially as they know you haven't responded).
Many could feel "relaxed" and respond to the 2nd SMS thinking "someone" is trying to help them.
BE CAREFULL
Cheers Baz
-- Edited by Baz421 on Friday 30th of November 2012 08:33:08 PM
Sheba said
08:34 PM Nov 30, 2012
I did the same as Marj, Wombat. Don't open every single e-mail I get.
Cheers,
Sheba.
-- Edited by Sheba on Friday 30th of November 2012 08:35:19 PM
Duh said
10:37 PM Nov 30, 2012
I got this one today from your hotmail address Womby, this is the message;
Something about hundreds of women waiting to meet or write to you or something on a Facebook link, I did not click on the link...
I noticed one address on the email for the fsflyingschool support among others ?????
I think your hotmail address and address book has been compromised (hacked)......
-- Edited by Duh on Saturday 1st of December 2012 12:40:27 AM
_wombat_ said
03:45 AM Dec 1, 2012
Hi Guys
Yes I know this is not caravan related and should be in I Digress BUT I wanted feedback from all memebers that use Hotmail, and not all members go to I Digress or the Tech Support post's. Having said that I now think it IS caravan related and should go in General as a lot off members use Hotmail when on the road.
Today I got this from Hotmail (see pic) anybody ever had the same?
Dump it mate. Had one the other day from paypal (really well done, looked genuine) checking that I'd made a payment to someone. Rather than using their provided link I signed into my account - no record of transaction. These clowns are getting more resourceful every day. The moment I see verify your identity the message is gone these days.
Darrell
_wombat_ said
04:23 AM Dec 1, 2012
Hi Guys,
I logged into my hotmail and my logon was accepted, and then that screen show up, it was not sent to another email addy. hmmm
Nomad246, sorry I should have included MH, campers, tents and buses, have I left anything out?
Happywanderer said
04:26 AM Dec 1, 2012
Wombat, I think someone might have hacked your account. I got an email from you today titled, Just Look. When I opened it there was a link to something I had no knowledge of so I deleted it straightaway.
Nomad246 said
04:36 AM Dec 1, 2012
Left out Nomad Lifestyle ,,, lol
With HW's mail from you, your hotmail account has been breached (unless you sent it).
Logon and change your password, that used to fix the breach.
Looks like it may have been a bonefide hotmail message you received that should have led you to your 'secret question'
Cheers
dazren said
04:50 AM Dec 1, 2012
Gidday Womby ! Hmmm this is strange ??? I have just recieved 2 emails from you ???? Did you send them ??? as they do not make any sense to me ??? If you did not send them, Let me know on here ?? or PM me on here,as i do not believe they came from you, but they ARE from your Email address ???? Let me Know ok Daz
brickies said
04:56 AM Dec 1, 2012
Wombat this is the right spot to put this post we all need to be aware of these things , Has Nomad 246 has said change password has quick has you can and dump the email , Had a email when we were in North Queensland that didn't make senses any time this happen change password
dazren said
05:05 AM Dec 1, 2012
Womby. the 2 emails i got from your address were titled,'' I am my own Boss'' and ''Great Opportunity'' They both went to a page that was offering work from home on the internet , and earn big bucks. Yeah sure ?? So i have deleted them now ?
Roving-Dutchy said
06:01 AM Dec 1, 2012
Wombat Try googling your problem and see what you come up with, but if your address book has been hacked I can't see that changing your password will fix it as they already have your address list, also forward the problem to Hotmail support and see what they have to say.Also try the Hotmail forum amd see if there are posts re this problem Dont use Hotmail myself I found it was too prone to getting lots of spam in the Inbox, I find that Gmail has excellant filters and it is rare to get spam in my Inbox it is always put in the spam folder. Cheers David
neilnruth said
06:06 AM Dec 1, 2012
I don't get any spam in my hotmail inbox. I use Microsoft security. It's free and it's very good.
milo said
06:26 AM Dec 1, 2012
id change the password and maybe give hotmail the flick, I've used gmail, so far so good hope you sort it out, got no other answers ..
bill12 said
02:55 PM Dec 1, 2012
Just got an email from Telstra saying my account was overdue- strange as my billing cycle iis not over yet, and I paid the last one. Looks just like the telstra one. Deleted it and went thru The real Telstra site to check. If you yhink its fishy- delete it.Bill
brickies said
04:56 PM Dec 1, 2012
Roving-Dutchy the reason for changing your password is they use it to get into your account and send email from your account to trick your friends into there scam ,IF you answer the scam they have your password if you don't answer you are safe , they would have got your email address from a friend who they have scammed
_wombat_ said
05:18 PM Dec 1, 2012
ANY MEMBERS on here who have my hotmail account do NOT OPEN ANY emails from me until I contact you via this topic.
looks like my laptop & hotmail addy has been hacked.
Nomad246 said
05:26 PM Dec 1, 2012
brickies wrote:
Roving-Dutchy the reason for changing your password is they use it to get into your account and send email from your account to trick your friends into there scam ,IF you answer the scam they have your password if you don't answer you are safe , they would have got your email address from a friend who they have scammed
The fix is to change your password. Here's a MS statement on the issue
1st - Install antivirus on your computer,,, good avice but it is usually the net server where they access your hotmail account and the password is obtained by using a password generator on hotmail's servers, usually not your PC. However you may have picked up Malware that could be unrelated to hotmail issues. (I hear some of you say you've already got antivirus on your PC,,,, )
2nd - Guess what,,, change the password to your hotmail account, make it a 'strong' password (google it if you need to know how to make a strong password)
I've heard of peoples hotmail accounts being hacked yet they have not been on their computer for many weeks, so logically if the computer is not online (powered down) it cannot be hacked.
Womby, my advice is from experience, not a guess. Had our hotty account compromised about 8 years ago. Changed to strong password and never happened since.
From my experience I'd also advise, not keeping an address book in hotmail as it is stored on the web, not your PC. Not keeping too many old emails which contain friends email addys, in folders. Deleting private photos after viewing, download to your pc if necessary, but get them out of your hotmail account.
This advice will not stop you from getting spam (as Bill12 has) but it will stop your online account being used to send spam to your friends.
There is enough evidence of Wombys friends getting spam from his account to conclude that a password change will more than likely rectify all the issues.
Cheers
Duh said
05:29 PM Dec 1, 2012
_wombat_ wrote:
ANY MEMBERS on here who have my hotmail account do NOT OPEN ANY emails from me until I contact you via this topic.
looks like my laptop & hotmail addy has been hacked.
I have sent you a pm copy of the email Wombat, showing addys it was sent to etc......
milo said
11:51 PM Dec 1, 2012
just got an email from wombat100 is that you wombat?
I just talked with a tech guru on 2ue talkback radio and he says
that when you use something like gmail or hotmail
all the mail stays on there server, even if you open an email
that has a link on it, its still on there google or hotmails server..
how ever its only when you click on the link in the email or if you click on an attachment
thats when the trouble hits the digital fan..
so you can open up any email,
but if in doubt dont click on the links or attachments etc..
hope that helps
milo
_wombat_ said
12:22 AM Dec 2, 2012
not me milo, one of these scams I would guess.
as you say opening an email will not matter that much its when you click on attachments or links that you do not know.
milo said
01:31 AM Dec 2, 2012
thought it might have been the ones you were talking about wombat..
Duh said
01:33 AM Dec 2, 2012
That one is a virus Milo, don't open the attachment....
neilnruth said
01:34 AM Dec 2, 2012
Sounds like it's just as well we haven't had an email from wombat. Hope you get it sorted soon.
_wombat_ said
01:43 AM Dec 2, 2012
neilnruth wrote:
Sounds like it's just as well we haven't had an email from wombat. Hope you get it sorted soon.
do you want one
it looks like all is ok now so will give it a few days to see how it goes.
neilnruth said
01:48 AM Dec 2, 2012
Thanks wombat. No, I'll give it a miss just in case they are bwaiting to pounce again.
_wombat_ said
04:17 PM Dec 2, 2012
neilnruth wrote:
Thanks wombat. No, I'll give it a miss just in case they are bwaiting to pounce again.
OK, I will not send you one, my isp seems to think they can track it so just have to wait and see, all ok now but I will reinstall my back up so that I clear my laptop of anything, my virus/malware check came up clear yesterday, but I will still do the backup from my external drive today.
goldcoaster said
04:32 PM Dec 2, 2012
bill12 We got the same Telstra email,we rang Telstra and yes it is a scam,Delete,do not open and their is another one going around from Commenwealth Bank scam too.
Wombat, I don't know if genuine or not but I got an email from a friend that looked suspicious and when I checked with her someone had hijacked her account.
The hijacker used the address book of the account holder to send emails to. Definitely check it out before doing what it says.
-- Edited by jetj on Friday 30th of November 2012 07:58:39 PM
Womby, the General Forum is for "A friendly forum where you can seek advice, exchange tips and share experiences about the grey nomad lifestyle"
that would include caravans but not be limited to caravans.
Ref your question, did you get this message when you logged into your Hotmail account, or was it delivered to another email address that is registered with your hotmail (now Live Mail) account?
If it was sent to another email addy outside hotmail it is definitely spam and DO NOT follow the link.
If it was your start up page as you were entering Hotmail it has been happening as the new "Live" setup tries to better identify their users. Try to skip it to get to your account without providing additional info for a free account.
Cheers
-- Edited by Nomad246 on Friday 30th of November 2012 08:14:13 PM
In a new "twist' to these phishing schemes we see these days, I had SMS on phone form Western Union trying to suck me in,,, same old same old.
HOWEVER, the TWIST is that a couple of days later an SMS says you may have recieved xxxxx from Western Union and it's a scam, please respond to ensure you are not involved (or words to this effect).
Good try eh, send the spam and then tell you later it's a con (especially as they know you haven't responded).
Many could feel "relaxed" and respond to the 2nd SMS thinking "someone" is trying to help them.
BE CAREFULL
Cheers Baz
-- Edited by Baz421 on Friday 30th of November 2012 08:33:08 PM
I did the same as Marj, Wombat. Don't open every single e-mail I get.
Cheers,
Sheba.
-- Edited by Sheba on Friday 30th of November 2012 08:35:19 PM
I got this one today from your hotmail address Womby, this is the message;
Something about hundreds of women waiting to meet or write to you or something on a Facebook link, I did not click on the link...
I noticed one address on the email for the fsflyingschool support among others ?????
I think your hotmail address and address book has been compromised (hacked)......
-- Edited by Duh on Saturday 1st of December 2012 12:40:27 AM
Hi Guys
Yes I know this is not caravan related and should be in I Digress BUT I wanted feedback from all memebers that use Hotmail, and not all members go to I Digress or the Tech Support post's. Having said that I now think it IS caravan related and should go in General as a lot off members use Hotmail when on the road.
Today I got this from Hotmail (see pic) anybody ever had the same?
I have not clicked on the Next button yet.
Darrell
Hi Guys,
I logged into my hotmail and my logon was accepted, and then that screen show up, it was not sent to another email addy. hmmm
Nomad246, sorry I should have included MH, campers, tents and buses, have I left anything out?
Left out Nomad Lifestyle ,,, lol
With HW's mail from you, your hotmail account has been breached (unless you sent it).
Logon and change your password, that used to fix the breach.
Looks like it may have been a bonefide hotmail message you received that should have led you to your 'secret question'
Cheers
Gidday Womby ! Hmmm this is strange ??? I have just recieved 2 emails from you ???? Did you send them ??? as they do not make any sense to me ??? If you did not send them, Let me know on here ?? or PM me on here,as i do not believe they came from you, but they ARE from your Email address ???? Let me Know ok Daz
Womby. the 2 emails i got from your address were titled,'' I am my own Boss'' and ''Great Opportunity'' They both went to a page that was offering work from home on the internet , and earn big bucks. Yeah sure ?? So i have deleted them now ?
Try googling your problem and see what you come up with, but if your address book has been hacked I can't see that changing your password will fix it as they already have your address list, also forward the problem to Hotmail support and see what they have to say.Also try the Hotmail forum amd see if there are posts re this problem
Dont use Hotmail myself I found it was too prone to getting lots of spam in the Inbox, I find that Gmail has excellant filters and it is rare to get spam in my Inbox it is always put in the spam folder.
Cheers
David
hope you sort it out, got no other answers ..
ANY MEMBERS on here who have my hotmail account do NOT OPEN ANY emails from me until I contact you via this topic.
looks like my laptop & hotmail addy has been hacked.
The fix is to change your password. Here's a MS statement on the issue
1st - Install antivirus on your computer,,, good avice but it is usually the net server where they access your hotmail account and the password is obtained by using a password generator on hotmail's servers, usually not your PC. However you may have picked up Malware that could be unrelated to hotmail issues. (I hear some of you say you've already got antivirus on your PC,,,, )
2nd - Guess what,,, change the password to your hotmail account, make it a 'strong' password (google it if you need to know how to make a strong password)
Read all about it at :- http://windows.microsoft.com/en-AU/hotmail/hacked-account-faq
I've heard of peoples hotmail accounts being hacked yet they have not been on their computer for many weeks, so logically if the computer is not online (powered down) it cannot be hacked.
Womby, my advice is from experience, not a guess. Had our hotty account compromised about 8 years ago. Changed to strong password and never happened since.
From my experience I'd also advise, not keeping an address book in hotmail as it is stored on the web, not your PC. Not keeping too many old emails which contain friends email addys, in folders. Deleting private photos after viewing, download to your pc if necessary, but get them out of your hotmail account.
This advice will not stop you from getting spam (as Bill12 has) but it will stop your online account being used to send spam to your friends.
There is enough evidence of Wombys friends getting spam from his account to conclude that a password change will more than likely rectify all the issues.
Cheers
I have sent you a pm copy of the email Wombat, showing addys it was sent to etc......
I just talked with a tech guru on 2ue talkback radio and he says
that when you use something like gmail or hotmail
all the mail stays on there server, even if you open an email
that has a link on it, its still on there google or hotmails server..
how ever its only when you click on the link in the email or if you click on an attachment
thats when the trouble hits the digital fan..
so you can open up any email,
but if in doubt dont click on the links or attachments etc..
hope that helps
milo
not me milo, one of these scams I would guess.
as you say opening an email will not matter that much its when you click on attachments or links that you do not know.
That one is a virus Milo, don't open the attachment....
do you want one
it looks like all is ok now so will give it a few days to see how it goes.
OK, I will not send you one, my isp seems to think they can track it so just have to wait and see, all ok now but I will reinstall my back up so that I clear my laptop of anything, my virus/malware check came up clear yesterday, but I will still do the backup from my external drive today.
We got the same Telstra email,we rang Telstra and yes it is a scam,Delete,do not open and their is another one going around from Commenwealth Bank scam too.