Does anybody own or use the Redback RB$ 5Kva generator. The reason I ask as it says that it runs at 49dB - 56dB and if true makes it very quiet indeed. But as they say Don't believe everything so I'm hoping that somebody has some first hand information. Thanks Dave
Whenarewethere said
05:08 PM Apr 1, 2019
Looking at the Honda eu30i it has a 7.7hour 57dba & 3.5hour 65dba at 7 metre noise level rating.
The Redback seems almost silent by comparison!
Baz421 said
05:48 PM Apr 1, 2019
Mostly good reviews,,, some issues, have you read this, especially the bit about dealer not wanting adverse report.
If they sell it, they should service it, they don't service it. It runs on 95 ron petrol, that's not the standard stuff you buy at the pump.
To many queries about the products this company sells, batteries, generators etc
We will stick with known brands, even if they are more expensive
dave48 said
08:18 AM Apr 2, 2019
Thaks to all. I'll stick with my Honda. Just curious if it was as quiet as they say. And Baz Loved the Professor. He was certainly unique
Mike Harding said
08:43 AM Apr 2, 2019
Take generator sound pressure level specifications with a bucket of salt.
Accurately measuring SPL is both difficult and error prone and can only be done with any hope of accuracy in a anechoic chamber, of which there are very few in the world suited to a gen at 7m.
In addition if an electrical load rating is not supplied it's a sure bet the measurement was done with the gen at idle or with a 50W load or similar. Give the gen 50% or more load and a lot more noise is produced. You should hear my Honda EU20i when it's running the microwave on the 50% power setting. So half the time the gen is doing nothing and the other half it's producing 1200W - two very, very different noise levels.
The only practical way to reduce gen noise is to start with an engine which produces more power than needed and then strangle it with a multi stage exhaust system - trouble is this is expensive.
With the small gens (< 2.5kW) Honda and Yamaha are about as good as it gets for noise - ignore the dB numbers in the specs and simply listen to them under load but make sure you do that test in the same location otherwise reflected sound will change the level. Complicated.
MH - at Gillard's Beach, NSW south coast.
Aus-Kiwi said
01:23 PM Apr 2, 2019
Is geni being fitted or pulled out on ground or back of truck . Our Onan is built in and relivley quiet. Being built in
. It has a longer, larger muffler .. Sits in its own insulated compartment. Sorry cant comment on actual brand .
swamp said
12:42 AM Apr 6, 2019
hi
There were gene noise tests done in van and motor home mag .
All done by same test load etc etc .
The cheaper modern gene types were all reasonably quiet . The 2.3/2.4 kvgene were very quiet. My cheaper invertor gene was very comparable to the Honda`s . I actually tested it .
Ron-D said
09:25 AM Apr 6, 2019
Noisy heavy petrol stinking things that destroy other peoples peace and quite ,carted around by self centered selfish people
-- Edited by Ron-D on Saturday 6th of April 2019 09:27:31 AM
rockylizard said
09:37 AM Apr 6, 2019
Ron-D wrote:
Noisy heavy petrol stinking things that destroy other peoples peace and quite ,carted around by self centred selfish people
Gday...
a rather closed-minded, thoughtless comment.
Of course, the 'noisy, heavy, petrol (diesel), stinking thing' you use to pull your van, camper trailer, tent etc is none of those ??
Tolerance is a willingness to accept behaviour and beliefs that are different from your own, although you might not agree with or approve of them.
Unfortunately, that is what is wrong with so many who roam this wide, brown, exiting land. I sometimes wonder just who are the "self-centred selfish people".
Cheers - stay well, travel safely and try some tolerance - John
Peter_n_Margaret said
10:50 AM Apr 6, 2019
rockylizard wrote:
Of course, the 'noisy, heavy, petrol (diesel), stinking thing' you use to pull your van, camper trailer, tent etc is none of those ??
Probably quieter and certainly less polluting that most portable generators which have no standards to control such features.
Cheers,
Peter
Aussie1 said
11:45 AM Apr 6, 2019
rockylizard wrote:
Ron-D wrote:
Noisy heavy petrol stinking things that destroy other peoples peace and quite ,carted around by self centred selfish people
Gday...
a rather closed-minded, thoughtless comment.
Of course, the 'noisy, heavy, petrol (diesel), stinking thing' you use to pull your van, camper trailer, tent etc is none of those ??
Tolerance is a willingness to accept behaviour and beliefs that are different from your own, although you might not agree with or approve of them.
Unfortunately, that is what is wrong with so many who roam this wide, brown, exiting land. I sometimes wonder just who are the "self-centred selfish people".
Cheers - stay well, travel safely and try some tolerance - John
Very well put Rockylizard, some just don't get it. .
T1 Terry said
12:17 PM Apr 6, 2019
Ron-D wrote:
Noisy heavy petrol stinking things that destroy other peoples peace and quite ,carted around by self centered selfish people
-- Edited by Ron-D on Saturday 6th of April 2019 09:27:31 AM
These same people will plant their generator away from their rig and close to someone else's site because they don't want to suffer the noise or smell themselves. If the generator is built in and sound proofed enough to keep the noise from radiating away from the users site, I can't see the problem, unfortunately that is very rare event.
T1 Terry
swamp said
01:04 PM Apr 6, 2019
HI
The sound proof contributes towards the invertor generators failures . The electronic boards get cooked .
Aussie1 said
01:09 PM Apr 6, 2019
swamp wrote:
HI The sound proof contributes towards the invertor generators failures . The electronic boards get cooked .
Good point Swamp. However, the "moaners & groaners" would probably think that would be a good outcome. Sad buggers I say
rockylizard said
01:52 PM Apr 6, 2019
Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
rockylizard wrote:
Of course, the 'noisy, heavy, petrol (diesel), stinking thing' you use to pull your van, camper trailer, tent etc is none of those ??
Probably quieter and certainly less polluting that most portable generators which have no standards to control such features.
Cheers,
Peter
Gday...
I understand and agree that my analogy is a little flawed perhaps.
However, whether at a camp or at a van park, I certainly can attest to the noise, stink and pollution that is emitted around my "space" when next door's tow vehicle is started, manoeuvred into position and left idling as the van is finalised and ultimately hooked up - at 7am.
I never say a word .... because I believe that tolerance is a willingness to accept behaviour and beliefs that are different from your own, although you might not agree with or approve of them.
And what on earth is gained from sinking the boot into someone on a forum with a rather closed-minded, intolerant comment. Again, makes one wonder who the self-centred individual might be.
Jest sayin'
Cheers - stay well, travel safely and try some tolerance - John
oldtrack123 said
02:35 PM Apr 6, 2019
Mike Harding wrote:
Take generator sound pressure level specifications with a bucket of salt.
Accurately measuring SPL is both difficult and error prone and can only be done with any hope of accuracy in a anechoic chamber, of which there are very few in the world suited to a gen at 7m.
In addition if an electrical load rating is not supplied it's a sure bet the measurement was done with the gen at idle or with a 50W load or similar. Give the gen 50% or more load and a lot more noise is produced. You should hear my Honda EU20i when it's running the microwave on the 50% power setting. So half the time the gen is doing nothing and the other half it's producing 1200W - two very, very different noise levels.
The only practical way to reduce gen noise is to start with an engine which produces more power than needed and then strangle it with a multi stage exhaust system - trouble is this is expensive.
With the small gens (< 2.5kW) Honda and Yamaha are about as good as it gets for noise - ignore the dB numbers in the specs and simply listen to them under load but make sure you do that test in the same location otherwise reflected sound will change the level. Complicated.
MH - at Gillard's Beach, NSW south coast.
-- Edited by oldtrack123 on Saturday 6th of April 2019 02:37:03 PM
oldtrack123 said
02:37 PM Apr 6, 2019
oldtrack123 wrote:
Mike Harding wrote:
Take generator sound pressure level specifications with a bucket of salt.
Accurately measuring SPL is both difficult and error prone and can only be done with any hope of accuracy in a anechoic chamber, of which there are very few in the world suited to a gen at 7m.
In addition if an electrical load rating is not supplied it's a sure bet the measurement was done with the gen at idle or with a 50W load or similar. Give the gen 50% or more load and a lot more noise is produced. You should hear my Honda EU20i when it's running the microwave on the 50% power setting. So half the time the gen is doing nothing and the other half it's producing 1200W - two very, very different noise levels.
The only practical way to reduce gen noise is to start with an engine which produces more power than needed and then strangle it with a multi stage exhaust system - trouble is this is expensive.
With the small gens (< 2.5kW) Honda and Yamaha are about as good as it gets for noise - ignore the dB numbers in the specs and simply listen to them under load but make sure you do that test in the same location otherwise reflected sound will change the level. Complicated.
MH - at Gillard's Beach, NSW south coast.
T1 Terry said
02:42 PM Apr 6, 2019
Well fancy that, something Peter and I can agree on :lol: Gillard's Beach is a great spot for a few days, but gets a bit expensive if you stay for a week or more. The water monitors (big lizards) are really something when they come wandering through the camp site. Lots of great spots all the way up and down the NSW South Coast
T1 Terry
oldtrack123 said
02:57 PM Apr 6, 2019
T1 Terry wrote:
Well fancy that, something Peter and I can agree on :lol: Gillard's Beach is a great spot for a few days, but gets a bit expensive if you stay for a week or more. The water monitors (big lizards) are really something when they come wandering through the camp site. Lots of great spots all the way up and down the NSW South Coast
T1 Terry
Great, at last, we agree on something.
The only thing we found as a negative was the presence of scrub ticks
Almost every time we went there we ended up with them
, In my opinion, NSW has the best oceanside National parks in Aus.& most with very good facilities
Don't know what the fees are now, but when we use to go we found them quite reasonable.
Starting right from the far north@ places like Lake Arragan.
-- Edited by oldtrack123 on Saturday 6th of April 2019 03:03:19 PM
T1 Terry said
03:43 PM Apr 6, 2019
Maybe Mike can get us up-to-date with the fees there now. It has been a few yrs since we were there last, a long drive from Mannum SA for a week end away :lol: I seem to remember something like $15 or $20 per night and the facilities was a long drop toilet. NSW Parks and Wildlife seriously escalated the fees at one stage but times might have caught up by now. It was quite a track getting down into the site, maybe it kept the visitors to a minimum and kept out the ratbags. Seem to remember you might need to extend the stay if it rained because the road out became too slippery to get up the steep bits without a 4WD.
T1 Terry
Ron-D said
05:34 PM Apr 6, 2019
rockylizard wrote:
Ron-D wrote:
Noisy heavy petrol stinking things that destroy other peoples peace and quite ,carted around by self centred selfish people
Gday...
a rather closed-minded, thoughtless comment.
Of course, the 'noisy, heavy, petrol (diesel), stinking thing' you use to pull your van, camper trailer, tent etc is none of those ??
Tolerance is a willingness to accept behaviour and beliefs that are different from your own, although you might not agree with or approve of them.
Unfortunately, that is what is wrong with so many who roam this wide, brown, exiting land. I sometimes wonder just who are the "self-centred selfish people".
Cheers - stay well, travel safely and try some tolerance - John
It was meant as a joke ,you obviously have a generator and all jokes aside its easy to get on your high horse when your not on the receiving end of some inconsiderate nit wit...Most people with genies use Them in a sensible manner but there are self cantered fools out there that spoil other peoples peace and quite by not useing common sense, if you cant understand this thats your problem...
Peter_n_Margaret said
06:29 PM Apr 6, 2019
Try using a generator in a caravan park and see how you get on :)
Cheers,
Peter
Aussie1 said
07:50 PM Apr 6, 2019
Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
Try using a generator in a caravan park and see how you get on :) Cheers, Peter
I have and certainly got away with it. Arrived at a caravan park in southern Victoria on one occasion and there was a power outage. Out came the genny. problem solved.
Not a word said by any customers or staff. It really is a common sense thing.
Aus-Kiwi said
09:19 PM Apr 6, 2019
Well in our case . Its a 6.5 v8 diesel or twin cylinder diesel . Trust me the generator is much quieter!! If you complain ? Ill give you noise !! Lol Yes we dont run it in others area . We often ask or wander how close to park even when we have power and lead on some sites . With long lead . Trying not to upset anyone . At times it doesnt matter ! Narks will be narks !!
blaze said
10:42 PM Apr 6, 2019
I would rather listen to the hum of a gennie than a heap of old farts telling stories and boozing. Oh forgot, they wouldn't do that now would they
cheers
blaze
T1 Terry said
04:30 PM Apr 7, 2019
blaze wrote:
I would rather listen to the hum of a gennie than a heap of old farts telling stories and boozing. Oh forgot, they wouldn't do that now would they cheers blaze
I'm guessing your are the exception and not the norm. I love the chat around a campfire having a few cool drinks with a friendly mob of like minded people. If you enjoy the noise of a generator more than the friendly chat around a fire, then hopefully you like to park up well away from other people so you can enjoy your generator all by yourself
T1 Terry
Whenarewethere said
06:34 PM Apr 7, 2019
In Purnululu NP last year people were good enough not to run their generators in the non generator area. So instead we were fumigated with car engines charging batteries!
gold dandelion said
12:12 AM Apr 8, 2019
Ron-D wrote:
rockylizard wrote:
Ron-D wrote:
Noisy heavy petrol stinking things that destroy other peoples peace and quite ,carted around by self centred selfish people
Gday...
a rather closed-minded, thoughtless comment.
Of course, the 'noisy, heavy, petrol (diesel), stinking thing' you use to pull your van, camper trailer, tent etc is none of those ??
Tolerance is a willingness to accept behaviour and beliefs that are different from your own, although you might not agree with or approve of them.
Unfortunately, that is what is wrong with so many who roam this wide, brown, exiting land. I sometimes wonder just who are the "self-centred selfish people".
Cheers - stay well, travel safely and try some tolerance - John
It was meant as a joke ,you obviously have a generator and all jokes aside its easy to get on your high horse when your not on the receiving end of some inconsiderate nit wit...Most people with genies use Them in a sensible manner but there are self cantered fools out there that spoil other peoples peace and quite by not useing common sense, if you cant understand this thats your problem...
I don't think they saw your smiling imoji at the end of your post mate.
Ron-D said
08:49 AM Apr 8, 2019
Yeah thats the trouble with the internet your comments can come across a lot harsher then intended ,Iam trying to tone things down .
Hi
Does anybody own or use the Redback RB$ 5Kva generator. The reason I ask as it says that it runs at 49dB - 56dB and if true makes it very quiet indeed. But as they say Don't believe everything so I'm hoping that somebody has some first hand information. Thanks Dave
Looking at the Honda eu30i it has a 7.7hour 57dba & 3.5hour 65dba at 7 metre noise level rating.
The Redback seems almost silent by comparison!
Mostly good reviews,,, some issues, have you read this, especially the bit about dealer not wanting adverse report.
https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/redback-rb4
To many queries about the products this company sells, batteries, generators etc
We will stick with known brands, even if they are more expensive
Take generator sound pressure level specifications with a bucket of
salt.
Accurately measuring SPL is both difficult and error prone and can
only be done with any hope of accuracy in a anechoic chamber, of
which there are very few in the world suited to a gen at 7m.
In addition if an electrical load rating is not supplied it's a sure
bet the measurement was done with the gen at idle or with a 50W load
or similar. Give the gen 50% or more load and a lot more noise is
produced. You should hear my Honda EU20i when it's running the
microwave on the 50% power setting. So half the time the gen is doing
nothing and the other half it's producing 1200W - two very, very
different noise levels.
The only practical way to reduce gen noise is to start with an engine
which produces more power than needed and then strangle it with a
multi stage exhaust system - trouble is this is expensive.
With the small gens (< 2.5kW) Honda and Yamaha are about as good as
it gets for noise - ignore the dB numbers in the specs and simply
listen to them under load but make sure you do that test in the same
location otherwise reflected sound will change the level. Complicated.
MH - at Gillard's Beach, NSW south coast.
. It has a longer, larger muffler .. Sits in its own insulated compartment. Sorry cant comment on actual brand .
There were gene noise tests done in van and motor home mag .
All done by same test load etc etc .
The cheaper modern gene types were all reasonably quiet . The 2.3/2.4 kvgene were very quiet. My cheaper invertor gene was very comparable to the Honda`s . I actually tested it .
Noisy heavy petrol stinking things that destroy other peoples peace and quite ,carted around by self centered selfish people
-- Edited by Ron-D on Saturday 6th of April 2019 09:27:31 AM
Gday...
Of course, the 'noisy, heavy, petrol (diesel), stinking thing' you use to pull your van, camper trailer, tent etc is none of those ??
Tolerance is a willingness to accept behaviour and beliefs that are different from your own, although you might not agree with or approve of them.
Unfortunately, that is what is wrong with so many who roam this wide, brown, exiting land. I sometimes wonder just who are the "self-centred selfish people".
Cheers - stay well, travel safely and try some tolerance - John
Probably quieter and certainly less polluting that most portable generators which have no standards to control such features.
Cheers,
Peter
Very well put Rockylizard, some just don't get it.
.
These same people will plant their generator away from their rig and close to someone else's site because they don't want to suffer the noise or smell themselves. If the generator is built in and sound proofed enough to keep the noise from radiating away from the users site, I can't see the problem, unfortunately that is very rare event.
T1 Terry
The sound proof contributes towards the invertor generators failures . The electronic boards get cooked .
Good point Swamp. However, the "moaners & groaners" would probably think that would be a good outcome. Sad buggers I say
Gday...
I understand and agree that my analogy is a little flawed perhaps.
However, whether at a camp or at a van park, I certainly can attest to the noise, stink and pollution that is emitted around my "space" when next door's tow vehicle is started, manoeuvred into position and left idling as the van is finalised and ultimately hooked up - at 7am.
I never say a word .... because I believe that tolerance is a willingness to accept behaviour and beliefs that are different from your own, although you might not agree with or approve of them.
And what on earth is gained from sinking the boot into someone on a forum with a rather closed-minded, intolerant comment. Again, makes one wonder who the self-centred individual might be.
Jest sayin'
Cheers - stay well, travel safely and try some tolerance - John
-- Edited by oldtrack123 on Saturday 6th of April 2019 02:37:03 PM
T1 Terry
Great, at last, we agree on something.
The only thing we found as a negative was the presence of scrub ticks
Almost every time we went there we ended up with them
, In my opinion, NSW has the best oceanside National parks in Aus.& most with very good facilities
Don't know what the fees are now, but when we use to go we found them quite reasonable.
Starting right from the far north@ places like Lake Arragan.
-- Edited by oldtrack123 on Saturday 6th of April 2019 03:03:19 PM
T1 Terry
It was meant as a joke ,you obviously have a generator and all jokes aside its easy to get on your high horse when your not on the receiving end of some inconsiderate nit wit...Most people with genies use Them in a sensible manner but there are self cantered fools out there that spoil other peoples peace and quite by not useing common sense, if you cant understand this thats your problem...
Cheers,
Peter
I have and certainly got away with it. Arrived at a caravan park in southern Victoria on one occasion and there was a power outage. Out came the genny. problem solved.
Not a word said by any customers or staff. It really is a common sense thing.
cheers
blaze
I'm guessing your are the exception and not the norm. I love the chat around a campfire having a few cool drinks with a friendly mob of like minded people. If you enjoy the noise of a generator more than the friendly chat around a fire, then hopefully you like to park up well away from other people so you can enjoy your generator all by yourself
T1 Terry
In Purnululu NP last year people were good enough not to run their generators in the non generator area. So instead we were fumigated with car engines charging batteries!
I don't think they saw your smiling imoji at the end of your post mate.
Yeah thats the trouble with the internet your comments can come across a lot harsher then intended ,Iam trying to tone things down .