Save Myrtle The Turtle (or help Marg have a holiday break) Fund
Vic said
10:28 AM Jun 23, 2011
Nice to see your post Sunshine, love the logo.
If we need to go to plan B at any stage, another option may be for Marg to have a PO Box she could pm on pm request to individual members and any donations could be sent by cheque or money order to that box. I believe it would be better for Marg to control any incoming donations herself, with no expectations on how she uses it as long as it helps in some way, in other words donations without strings.
Please not I am not suggesting that any other way (except direct bank donation to Marg) would not be a good idea too, but it takes the onus off any other members in this regards and avoids any possible unpleasant misunderstandings occurring.
In regards to ACCC, they should also be able to advise Marg of other avenues if all else fails, like the Small Claims Tribunal etc. I went through these once and the cost was very small and I was successful, not sure what the current situation and costs are though.
_wombat_ said
10:35 AM Jun 23, 2011
ACCC is free, no charge
jack biggles said
10:48 AM Jun 23, 2011
I went googling marj, and I found this mob online, they have 3y reconditioned engines listed from $995. I'm not sure exactly what they have done to class them as recon motors, nor am I sure what parts you actually receive with it & of course then theres the man power to get the swap done and them up and running, but anyway its a start.
http://www.enginesplus.com.au/Toyota-Hino.htm
Whatever way you go, it would be good if some recommendations came from people who may have used one of these mobs.....last thing you need is another dodgy motor.
I will try to do some more research and ask a few people I know what they think.
-- Edited by jack biggles on Thursday 23rd of June 2011 10:50:24 AM
Vic said
10:51 AM Jun 23, 2011
_wombat_ wrote:
ACCC is free, no charge
No worries Wombat, the Small Claims suggestion was only another avenue if the
ACCC failed, they may even suggest it as an option themselves.
In my case, a neighbour who owed me for his portion of a dividing fence which we had agreed on refused to pay his portion after I had paid for the lot, and kept coming up with excuses why he couldn't pay it (or anything at all for that matter). I had pressing needs myself at the time, bringing up 4 kids on my own, so needed the money too.
This went on for 12 months, and finally I took him to task after seeing him do major improvements to his home, new car etc. He laughed in my face and told me that it would cost me more to take him to court than it would be worth getting my money back and refused to pay.
I went to the small claims tribunal and lodged a claim, paid a small fee, they delivered a demand to his home in person for payment, collected the full payment from him and sent it to me, no charge for that service either.
When he drove past my place after that and I was out the front, he would drive past shouting and screaming abuse, and I would openly and visibly laugh my face off at him. He stopped doing it after awhile. The world is full of A/Holes and the only thing they understand is for people to stand up to them if they can and not let them get away with it.
You only have to watch some of these cases on TV current affairs to realise just how selfish and mean this type of person is.
jack biggles said
10:57 AM Jun 23, 2011
Another mob on the internet, they give free quotes for supply and fit
http://www.alloptionsengines.com.au/contact.html
_wombat_ said
10:59 AM Jun 23, 2011
Vic, good you stood up for your rights, a lot of people do not know what rights they have and miss out on what they are entitled to, I also recently had a problem with a car service centre, I emailed them and the manager phoned me saying he would give me a full refund, that was after I told him I would contact the ACCC.
_wombat_ said
11:02 AM Jun 23, 2011
good on ya jack, Marj needs sites like that so she can get an engine at a good price and from a fair dealer
JRH said
11:10 AM Jun 23, 2011
I am in also and Marj if all else fails please accept.
John
Happywanderer said
11:11 AM Jun 23, 2011
Good morning guys. I rang ACCC this morning. She gave me advice on what to do next. First port of call is to ring the caryard, give them a chance to respond. If that doesn't work I then send them a letter of demand. When that fails I go to Fair Trading to get the help. ACCC don't do any helping only advice. If after Fair Trading doesn't get any justice then its to the small claims court. I have rung Steve Morley, had a good talk to him and he is looking into what he can do for me. He will ring me back. He asked why didn't I come back to him sooner. Well! Considering I only found out yesterday what was wrong and I was away when it happened. He also asked why I didn't go back to the mechanic who did the initial work for me. I explained I did and he was too busy and didn't really have any answers. I went to him twice. He basically berated me for going to different people cause you only get different answers. But as I explained to him I had no idea what was wrong till I went to the new one. It could have been some little simple thing, no idea it was this big till I went to this new mechanic. Also told him about the speedo and how its probably done twice as many ks. Oh he didn't think the previous owner would lie, he's a good guy. That was even after I said previous owner had said Oh I thought the speedo was not clicking over when it should have. Will wait with anticipation. As I know you all will.
Firefly said
11:27 AM Jun 23, 2011
Fingers crossed for a fair and positive outcome mate.
Can anything be done about that other mechanic? Considering he is the SIL's mate, he seemed to really screw you over as well Marj.
jandas fun said
11:53 AM Jun 23, 2011
Hi Marj, sounds like things are under way. Also have fingers crossed for a satisfactory result. Also confirming my support again.
Johnw
_wombat_ said
01:03 PM Jun 23, 2011
1st step done Marj, good on you.
In regards to going back to the original mechanic you only need to say that you lost confidence in him when he was too busy to help you.
At least you have now got some correct advice. and you know we are all behind you.
Don't get upset when dealing with these people just try to do it with an open mind, I know thats easy to say but just stay calm and say what you have to calmly.
Beth54 said
02:17 PM Jun 23, 2011
Hi Marj,
I haven't had a chance top read all the details, but it seems you're finally getting somewhere.
As you know, I'm on the road with friends, and mostly free camping therefore don't have internet connection much.
We're currently in Goovidgen, just north of Biloela. Heading to Bedford Weir tomorrow, which is north of Blackwater.
I'm so pleased you got onto ACCC and your sister has offered some help too. I've been trying to get onto here to see what's going on.
Must go, the SW wind is coming up, so need to get into the shelter, where there's no 'connection'.
Cheers Marj!
Travel Bug said
02:19 PM Jun 23, 2011
Pleased to hear that it's all sounding quite positive Marj.
Fingers are tightly crossed that it's all systems go from now on.
Cheers. Pam.
DellieMay said
02:30 PM Jun 23, 2011
Haven't had a lot of chance to keep up lately...but I'm definately in with all others for you HW, regardless of the outcome. Good luck mate. Cheers dellie and Dero
Vic said
02:35 PM Jun 23, 2011
_wombat_ wrote:
Vic, good you stood up for your rights, a lot of people do not know what rights they have and miss out on what they are entitled to, I also recently had a problem with a car service centre, I emailed them and the manager phoned me saying he would give me a full refund, that was after I told him I would contact the ACCC.
Yes they are out there Wombat, glad you had a good outcome too, I hope Marj has success to with her problem as well. I like your sex change.....I might even be tempted to stray if you look like that....but somehow I don't think so !
Glad things are starting to fire for you Marj
-- Edited by Vic on Thursday 23rd of June 2011 02:36:27 PM
Onedodger said
02:50 PM Jun 23, 2011
Thats great news Marg.
I hope that you do get support from the ACCC and that a suitable outcome can be arranged.
It's great to have helpfull siblings.
Cheers Dodg
jules47 said
03:18 PM Jun 23, 2011
Hey Marj - how heartwarming is it to know that we are all part of this wonderful community!!!!! Amazing caring people, willing to help out a mate - and I feel that we are all mates on here, even though most of us have not met - Keep us posted - see ya soon!!!!
robell said
05:57 PM Jun 23, 2011
Good onya Marj, go get the buggers.
HeadnHome said
06:24 PM Jun 23, 2011
Hope all gets sorted soon and your back on the road again, I'm happy to put in as well if needed to get you up and running.
Sheba said
07:08 PM Jun 23, 2011
I'll be waiting with baited breath Marj. Have to go to small claims myself next P-Day.
Cheers,
Sheba.
Andrea said
07:57 PM Jun 23, 2011
I'm a bit late catching up with this (and the other) thread, but we're definitely 'in' as well if that's what's needed - you certainly didn't deserve the poor service you've had, Marj, and as Sheba says, there is a time to accept the help offered (and allow others the pleasure of feeling good! ); besides, we'd like to see you and Myrtle on the road somehwere, sometime too.
Hope all goes well, and speedily, with your negotiations from now on.
Andrea & John
Pejay said
08:00 PM Jun 23, 2011
Hi Marj,
Glad to hear that finally you appear to be on the right track to getting things sorted out, however, if all else fails, there is the likes of A Current Affair that will take up you problem.
In the meantime, hang in there, it may not happen overnight, but you will get back on the road.
Cheers
Pete & June
milo said
08:53 PM Jun 23, 2011
hope all goes well with Myrtle and the ACC.. Marj
capt cream bun said
10:21 PM Jun 23, 2011
Its fantastic to see a team like ours put there minds and spirits together as so to achieve an outcome which is only fair and just. We really are seeing and demonstrating together the more wonderful side of what a group of mostly strangers but common minded people can achieve. We are all different, some here have to much to say, some here don't say enough, some are more articulated than others and then there are the older and younger ones too, all sorts of different people who collectively make a really good and feel good group.
I think we could improve things even more if a guru amoust us stood up to be the "Captain" of that we have going on here. Some one who might talk quietly with Marj and coorinate the wishes she is recieving from others, for example, maybe use their own bank account for us to contribute too if needed,maybe work out the timing of any payments, etc. when the time is right of course. What do you think?
We could run a poll to vote for that volunteer. Some already shine out such as Bill, CG,jules47...quite a few others others i could vote for too.
It would have to be acklowedged such an elected person had final and unequivocal command/authority.
My thoughts.
ccb
_wombat_ said
08:28 AM Jun 24, 2011
ccb, thats a thought, but we may not need to use plan B, still keeping our fingersd crossed that Marj gets the help she needs through the ACCC and the small claims trib
bill12 said
08:41 AM Jun 24, 2011
I would volounteer, but I think someone closer to Marj should help. If you can,t get someone else,I will do it.My sister in an articled JP, so I can access her advice. the laws are different in each state. I will have a canves about with her and the bank manager. Will post results.
-- Edited by bill12 on Friday 24th of June 2011 08:43:58 AM
Happywanderer said
10:02 AM Jun 24, 2011
Good morning all. Please don't take this any further. I do apprecaite all that you are trying to do, it has made me quite emotional. I won't accept it for two reasons, my sister has offered to pay for a new motor, without sounding conceited she has more money than all of us put together. Thats the only way to explain it without going into detail. Also there a a few ladies on here going through difficult times with their vans, and a lot more than my small problem. I know of these situations privately but haven't been given permission to detail it on here. It would be unfair for me to be helped and they are still struggling to get out of their situation and get it fixed.. I am feeling sorry for them and wish I could help, I can't take from you at the same time. It would be unfair. I can get help as I said before, they might have to struggle along on their own to get their problems fixed. I do appreciate all you thoughts and once on the road again will look forward to meeting you all and maybe you can shout me a coffee or similiar.
_wombat_ said
10:09 AM Jun 24, 2011
I do understand how you feel Marj, all we ask at this stage is that you keep us up to date with your progress, hope it is all resolved soon and you can get on the road again, thinking of you
Vic said
11:02 AM Jun 24, 2011
I think at this stage it would be better to respect Marj's wishes as stated in her last post and just wish her well with the follow up.
Thanks for letting us know the situation Marj and appreciate your honesty,
Vic
Wombat, you can forget me straying now that your youth pills have worn off, I'd need mega drinks before I could even comtemplate the latest avatar
-- Edited by Vic on Friday 24th of June 2011 11:03:50 AM
If we need to go to plan B at any stage, another option may be for Marg to have a PO Box she could pm on pm request to individual members and any donations could be sent by cheque or money order to that box. I believe it would be better for Marg to control any incoming donations herself, with no expectations on how she uses it as long as it helps in some way, in other words donations without strings.
Please not I am not suggesting that any other way (except direct bank donation to Marg) would not be a good idea too, but it takes the onus off any other members in this regards and avoids any possible unpleasant misunderstandings occurring.
In regards to ACCC, they should also be able to advise Marg of other avenues if all else fails, like the Small Claims Tribunal etc. I went through these once and the cost was very small and I was successful, not sure what the current situation and costs are though.
ACCC is free, no charge
I went googling marj, and I found this mob online, they have 3y reconditioned engines listed from $995. I'm not sure exactly what they have done to class them as recon motors, nor am I sure what parts you actually receive with it & of course then theres the man power to get the swap done and them up and running, but anyway its a start.
http://www.enginesplus.com.au/Toyota-Hino.htm
Whatever way you go, it would be good if some recommendations came from people who may have used one of these mobs.....last thing you need is another dodgy motor.
I will try to do some more research and ask a few people I know what they think.
-- Edited by jack biggles on Thursday 23rd of June 2011 10:50:24 AM
No worries Wombat, the Small Claims suggestion was only another avenue if the
ACCC failed, they may even suggest it as an option themselves.
In my case, a neighbour who owed me for his portion of a dividing fence which we had agreed on refused to pay his portion after I had paid for the lot, and kept coming up with excuses why he couldn't pay it (or anything at all for that matter). I had pressing needs myself at the time, bringing up 4 kids on my own, so needed the money too.
This went on for 12 months, and finally I took him to task after seeing him do major improvements to his home, new car etc. He laughed in my face and told me that it would cost me more to take him to court than it would be worth getting my money back and refused to pay.
I went to the small claims tribunal and lodged a claim, paid a small fee, they delivered a demand to his home in person for payment, collected the full payment from him and sent it to me, no charge for that service either.
When he drove past my place after that and I was out the front, he would drive past shouting and screaming abuse, and I would openly and visibly laugh my face off at him. He stopped doing it after awhile. The world is full of A/Holes and the only thing they understand is for people to stand up to them if they can and not let them get away with it.
You only have to watch some of these cases on TV current affairs to realise just how selfish and mean this type of person is.
http://www.alloptionsengines.com.au/contact.html
Vic, good you stood up for your rights, a lot of people do not know what rights they have and miss out on what they are entitled to, I also recently had a problem with a car service centre, I emailed them and the manager phoned me saying he would give me a full refund, that was after I told him I would contact the ACCC.
good on ya jack, Marj needs sites like that so she can get an engine at a good price and from a fair dealer
I am in also and Marj if all else fails please accept.
John
I rang ACCC this morning. She gave me advice on what to do next. First port of call is to ring the caryard, give them a chance to respond.
If that doesn't work I then send them a letter of demand. When that fails I go to Fair Trading to get the help. ACCC don't do any helping only advice.
If after Fair Trading doesn't get any justice then its to the small claims court.
I have rung Steve Morley, had a good talk to him and he is looking into what he can do for me. He will ring me back.
He asked why didn't I come back to him sooner. Well! Considering I only found out yesterday what was wrong and I was away when it happened. He also asked why I didn't go back to the mechanic who did the initial work for me. I explained I did and he was too busy and didn't really have any answers. I went to him twice.
He basically berated me for going to different people cause you only get different answers. But as I explained to him I had no idea what was wrong till I went to the new one. It could have been some little simple thing, no idea it was this big till I went to this new mechanic.
Also told him about the speedo and how its probably done twice as many ks. Oh he didn't think the previous owner would lie, he's a good guy.
That was even after I said previous owner had said Oh I thought the speedo was not clicking over when it should have.
Will wait with anticipation. As I know you all will.
Fingers crossed for a fair and positive outcome mate.
Can anything be done about that other mechanic? Considering he is the SIL's mate, he seemed to really screw you over as well Marj.
Also confirming my support again.
Johnw
1st step done Marj, good on you.
In regards to going back to the original mechanic you only need to say that you lost confidence in him when he was too busy to help you.
At least you have now got some correct advice. and you know we are all behind you.
Don't get upset when dealing with these people just try to do it with an open mind, I know thats easy to say but just stay calm and say what you have to calmly.
Hi Marj,
I haven't had a chance top read all the details, but it seems you're finally getting somewhere.
As you know, I'm on the road with friends, and mostly free camping therefore don't have internet connection much.
We're currently in Goovidgen, just north of Biloela. Heading to Bedford Weir tomorrow, which is north of Blackwater.
I'm so pleased you got onto ACCC and your sister has offered some help too. I've been trying to get onto here to see what's going on.
Must go, the SW wind is coming up, so need to get into the shelter, where there's no 'connection'.
Cheers Marj!
Pleased to hear that it's all sounding quite positive Marj.
Fingers are tightly crossed that it's all systems go from now on.
Cheers. Pam.
Cheers
dellie and Dero
Yes they are out there Wombat, glad you had a good outcome too, I hope Marj has success to with her problem as well. I like your sex change.....I might even be tempted to stray if you look like that....but somehow I don't think so !
Glad things are starting to fire for you Marj
-- Edited by Vic on Thursday 23rd of June 2011 02:36:27 PM
I hope that you do get support from the ACCC and that a suitable outcome can be arranged.
It's great to have helpfull siblings.
Cheers Dodg
Keep us posted - see ya soon!!!!
I'll be waiting with baited breath Marj. Have to go to small claims myself next P-Day.
Cheers,
Sheba.
I'm a bit late catching up with this (and the other) thread, but we're definitely 'in' as well if that's what's needed - you certainly didn't deserve the poor service you've had, Marj, and as Sheba says, there is a time to accept the help offered (and allow others the pleasure of feeling good!
); besides, we'd like to see you and Myrtle on the road somehwere, sometime too.
Hope all goes well, and speedily, with your negotiations from now on.
Andrea & John
Glad to hear that finally you appear to be on the right track to getting things sorted out, however, if all else fails, there is the likes of A Current Affair that will take up you problem.
In the meantime, hang in there, it may not happen overnight, but you will get back on the road.
Cheers
Pete & June
Its fantastic to see a team like ours put there minds and spirits together as so to achieve an outcome which is only fair and just. We really are seeing and demonstrating together the more wonderful side of what a group of mostly strangers but common minded people can achieve. We are all different, some here have to much to say, some here don't say enough, some are more articulated than others and then there are the older and younger ones too, all sorts of different people who collectively make a really good and feel good group.
I think we could improve things even more if a guru amoust us stood up to be the "Captain" of that we have going on here. Some one who might talk quietly with Marj and coorinate the wishes she is recieving from others, for example, maybe use their own bank account for us to contribute too if needed,maybe work out the timing of any payments, etc. when the time is right of course. What do you think?
We could run a poll to vote for that volunteer. Some already shine out such as Bill, CG,jules47...quite a few others others i could vote for too.
It would have to be acklowedged such an elected person had final and unequivocal command/authority.
My thoughts.
ccb
ccb, thats a thought, but we may not need to use plan B, still keeping our fingersd crossed that Marj gets the help she needs through the ACCC and the small claims trib
I would volounteer, but I think someone closer to Marj should help. If you can,t get someone else,I will do it.My sister in an articled JP, so I can access her advice. the laws are different in each state. I will have a canves about with her and the bank manager. Will post results.
-- Edited by bill12 on Friday 24th of June 2011 08:43:58 AM
Please don't take this any further. I do apprecaite all that you are trying to do, it has made me quite emotional.
I won't accept it for two reasons, my sister has offered to pay for a new motor, without sounding conceited she has more money than all of us put together. Thats the only way to explain it without going into detail.
Also there a a few ladies on here going through difficult times with their vans, and a lot more than my small problem. I know of these situations privately but haven't been given permission to detail it on here. It would be unfair for me to be helped and they are still struggling to get out of their situation and get it fixed..
I am feeling sorry for them and wish I could help, I can't take from you at the same time. It would be unfair.
I can get help as I said before, they might have to struggle along on their own to get their problems fixed.
I do appreciate all you thoughts and once on the road again will look forward to meeting you all and maybe you can shout me a coffee or similiar.
I do understand how you feel Marj, all we ask at this stage is that you keep us up to date with your progress, hope it is all resolved soon and you can get on the road again, thinking of you
I think at this stage it would be better to respect Marj's wishes as stated in her last post and just wish her well with the follow up.
Thanks for letting us know the situation Marj and appreciate your honesty,
Vic
Wombat, you can forget me straying now that your youth pills have worn off, I'd need mega drinks before I could even comtemplate the latest avatar
-- Edited by Vic on Friday 24th of June 2011 11:03:50 AM