Why do some motorhomes and caravans hog the centre line.
spida said
05:10 PM May 12, 2013
Is 90km the legal limit for all states when towing a van??
Delta18 said
05:17 PM May 12, 2013
Kaid wrote:
Got held up on the way to Townsville today by a caravan doing 80kph. Had a long , long line behind him. On the other hand, when we have been doing 100, we have been overtaken by cars towing vans. Reckon they have to be doing bout 120 to pass us
The situation has been the same since cars were invented....anyone traveling slower than us is a 'road hog'...anyone going faster than us is a 'damn fool maniac heading for his own funeral"!
barrie said
05:18 PM May 12, 2013
Spida each state has it's own rules
Delta18 said
05:27 PM May 12, 2013
Towing limit in WA is 100kph
This is the speed I usually tow our 18'6" tandem van as that is the most economical speed. This is flat ground, of which there is plenty in WA and little wind of course.
The important thing is to drive to your capabilities and to road conditions.
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Santa said
06:04 PM May 12, 2013
Olley46 wrote:
Anybody (sitting )on channel 40 with there wife ,or lady friend,sitting beside them must not have any respect for them what so ever,the language on the truck channel is unsuitable for my wife ,this is my view only ,but I do go to channel 40 to talk the trucks around ,and get off that channel as soon as possible.
Lance C
X TRUCK DRIVER
Lance this is 2013, you even get this language on TV nowadays.
Had to smile at your words
"wife ,or lady friend,sitting beside them must not have any respect for them what so ever,the language on the truck channel is unsuitable for my wife"
Very quaint in this day and age.
Cupie said
06:18 PM May 12, 2013
I always try to keep the speed down to 90km/hr. It tends to drift up towards 100 but I correct as soon as possible. No cruise control on the Old manual Patrol .. does have hand throttle though but haven't used that for obvious reasons. I suppose that I float between 85 & 95, except on long hills of course.
I keep the speed down for fuel economy, reduced wear & tear on vehicle & driver, and reduced risk of & in accidents.
It is my habit to use pullover areas & passing lanes et. al. to let any build up pass where it's safe to do so but I don't get unduly worried about them. I found out early on that what ever reckless speed you choose to do there will soon be a queue up of idiots wanting to pass at well over the speed limit, often with vans attached. Where I can see trucks approaching & the conditions are good, I often gradually increase to 100.
As for ch40- ... forget it in the city areas ... I can't imagine anyone with ladies or children in the vehicle tuning to it. The language is disgusting. If the city truckies really wanted to talk to caravanners on that channel I'm sure that they would moderate their language. I must say that out of city areas that channel is quite good. On rare occasions I have spoken to truckies on ch40 & their response has been good. They usually advise me to hold my line & speed & they will determine when it is safe & possible for their rig to pass.
I carry a fixed UHF & two HandHelds. One HH roaming, the fixed one on ch40 & one HH on ch18. The ch40 one is turned off if we encounter any of foul mouthed variety.
ps. Where there is a center line the RH edge of the bull bar is visually aligned with it. This keeps me around center lane. The LH magnifying mirror shows me the position of the wheels in relation to the road edge or marked lane if any. After a while you do this automatically without even concentrating.
Santa said
06:41 PM May 12, 2013
Cant imagine why anyone would want to use a UHF CB in the city anyway, the primary use is highway travel.
After reading through this thread, I only agree about the position of the vehicle within the lane. The rest I don't agree with. You drive to what is safe for you. The road speed signs are there as a maximum not the agreed speed by everyone using the road.
We travel at 90km and we never go over it, why should we? We are not in a race to get from A to B in the shortest time possible. We want to see it all and enjoy our travel.
As for the truckers, Les is a trucker and envies the travellers. He is very polite and will not hurry them, as some will. There are a lot of great truckers out there.
But I must say I have seen some cars doing exactly what you are complaining about Santa, so it's just not caravaners.
BruDi said
07:30 PM May 12, 2013
Frankly, we prefer to travel at 90km/hr when towing our van. We will at times get up to 100km/hr but rarely. We keep an eye out for truckies as they are out there earning a living and so we tend to let them know that we will not hinder them when they want to pass. As a result most give us a call and we ensure they can get back in. The scariest time was when we did this in NSW on the Newell Highway and tucked in behind the truck was a large old 4WD with an oblivious driver. He didn't worry about the fact that we were on the road, just kept going along on our bit of road. It was like he didn't even see us and so we had to head for the hills; not easy with a van on the back.
Later we saw him stopped along with another vehicle that he had obviously sideswiped. The police were in attendance and we weren't too surprised after what we had seen.
It also needs to be remembered that there are certain sections of roads where pulling over to let others through is not possible and we also need to ensure that we can do so safely.
100 or 100 is the maximum xpeed limit, unless in NT, and it does not mean that we all have to aspire to that.
Courtesy should be the catch phrase along with safety.
Di
Olley46 said
08:33 PM May 12, 2013
Santa wrote:
Olley46 wrote:
Anybody (sitting )on channel 40 with there wife ,or lady friend,sitting beside them must not have any respect for them what so ever,the language on the truck channel is unsuitable for my wife ,this is my view only ,but I do go to channel 40 to talk the trucks around ,and get off that channel as soon as possible.
Lance C
X TRUCK DRIVER
Lance this is 2013, you even get this language on TV nowadays.
Had to smile at your words
"wife ,or lady friend,sitting beside them must not have any respect for them what so ever,the language on the truck channel is unsuitable for my wife"
Very quaint in this day and age.
I am to old to change I will stick with RESPECT and bring the grand kids up the same way.
Lance C
Grams said
10:51 PM May 12, 2013
Olley46 I have to agree with Lance. As a woman I hate the swearing on TV and will turn it off or over. Les hates having the UHF on channel 40 with the swearing when I am sitting with him. I appreciate the fact he turns it down or off. It is very respectful.
KFT said
10:58 PM May 12, 2013
Spida, I believe the limit is the posted speed limit except in WA where it is 100 kmh if you are towing(unless a lower limit is posted).
frank
-- Edited by KFT on Sunday 12th of May 2013 10:59:13 PM
Cruising Granny said
06:26 AM May 13, 2013
Watch your mirrors! Watch your mirrors! Watch your mirrors! It's vital you are always aware of what is going on behind your. Small cars, motor bikes, big trucks or bigger oversize trucks. Even oversize convoys will pull over when it's safe, to let the traffic build up go through. It's a courtesy. Now to the CB. It's a vital tool for the traveller to keep in touch with fellow road-users, and to communicate when and if possible. To call up a truck behind you, just call, "Truck, or Kenworth behind Coramel caravan, do you have a copy?" The truck driver or pilot may respond, "Copy." Then just advise of your average travelling speed and your intentions in regards to allowing the traffic to pass or turning off the highway. eg. "Eastbound Coramel travelling at 85 to 90 kph, and will pull over when it's safe to do so." On most occasions the truck driver will be relieved to be acknowledged, that you've even seen them in the mirrors, and will be happy to wait to overtake when it's safe. Oversize is a similar situation. Just be patient if you are behind, and they will be patient if they are behind you, IF you are travelling as close as possible to the fog line, NOT the centre white line. Get off the centre white line. Never ride the white line, ever, please! It makes every motorist's life difficult. As for the language on the CB, the truck drivers travelling in opposite directions only have a 2 minute window in which to "shoot the breeze" and say "g'day", or to advise of weighbridge or Police activity. The cities are where the "CB Pests" hog the airwaves in the most offensive manner for many hours. It's best to shut down. So I wish you many happy kms on our highways, wherever you go. See you out there somewhere.
Santa said
05:58 PM May 13, 2013
Cruising Granny wrote:
Watch your mirrors! Watch your mirrors! Watch your mirrors! It's vital you are always aware of what is going on behind your. Small cars, motor bikes, big trucks or bigger oversize trucks. Even oversize convoys will pull over when it's safe, to let the traffic build up go through. It's a courtesy. Now to the CB. It's a vital tool for the traveller to keep in touch with fellow road-users, and to communicate when and if possible. To call up a truck behind you, just call, "Truck, or Kenworth behind Coramel caravan, do you have a copy?" The truck driver or pilot may respond, "Copy." Then just advise of your average travelling speed and your intentions in regards to allowing the traffic to pass or turning off the highway. eg. "Eastbound Coramel travelling at 85 to 90 kph, and will pull over when it's safe to do so." On most occasions the truck driver will be relieved to be acknowledged, that you've even seen them in the mirrors, and will be happy to wait to overtake when it's safe. Oversize is a similar situation. Just be patient if you are behind, and they will be patient if they are behind you, IF you are travelling as close as possible to the fog line, NOT the centre white line. Get off the centre white line. Never ride the white line, ever, please! It makes every motorist's life difficult. As for the language on the CB, the truck drivers travelling in opposite directions only have a 2 minute window in which to "shoot the breeze" and say "g'day", or to advise of weighbridge or Police activity. The cities are where the "CB Pests" hog the airwaves in the most offensive manner for many hours. It's best to shut down. So I wish you many happy kms on our highways, wherever you go. See you out there somewhere.
Well said Granny, excellent advice.
hako said
09:21 PM May 13, 2013
brickies wrote:
I took a radio with us on one trip and never used it to direct anybody , I travel at 90 t0 95 kph on major Highways but increase to 100kph when I see trucks approaching from the rear , When I see some where to pull over I use the blinkers to pull over and let them pass , I would never take the responsible to instruct someone to overtake I feel that the overtakers choice not mine
I'm with you brickies, any truck behind me will have much better long range vision as he sits much higher so it's his decision. I do the same re increasing to speed limit if a truck seen approaching from rear and then pull over. Just commen sense/courtesy.
Denis
herbie said
11:59 PM May 13, 2013
Just remember if you ever get into trouble out on some of the out back roads,i guarantee a truckie will always stop and lend a hand, when others will just drive by, and these men have timeslots to make for people like us to keep us fed, deliver that new van,tug ,yes and even your toilet paper.If you recon truckies speed up on overtaking lanes, well thats not posible in most cases as they are speed limited, so maybe a good idea to check your speedo.Spare a thought for the truckie when next you see someone hugging that white line or some other stupi.d in front of a truck just how hard he will have to work to avoid killing you or the other person/ people, with 60 t to pull up or even more on some of the bigger road trains up north. These guys are highly skilled drivers that don't go on the road to harm anyone. They are just doing a job delivering in most cases our daily needs. and want to return home to their loved ones. I recon most are highway angles not devils.
Grams said
01:11 AM May 14, 2013
I remember a few years ago I had just turned off the highway towards a country town, I was still 5km out of town, my car just died and I coasted to the side of the toad. I was on my own and I had forgotten my mobile. The only thing I had was my UHF...I asked on channel 40 if any trucker out there could help me by ringing the RAA. I gave my position, and a truck driver answered me telling me he had rung them, he asked if I was the lady standing by her silver wagon I said yes I was, I saw this truck driver pass by on the highway. I thanked him for all his help.
The RAA said I had major problems with my car, after he checked everything. He towed me into town and when I managed to call my husband to come get me, he found the battery terminal cable had come loose. He tightened it and I never had a problem since....
I have heaps of respect for truckers, and for that particular truckie that helped me out of a problem. To him thank you.
mr glassies said
02:36 AM May 14, 2013
i talk to truckies all the time just in convo give them a bit of heads up whats in front of the they seam to see my respect for them and most time get the same back ( just dont have an old cb a jc lol)
dibs
Santa said
03:36 AM May 14, 2013
hako wrote:
brickies wrote:
I took a radio with us on one trip and never used it to direct anybody , I travel at 90 t0 95 kph on major Highways but increase to 100kph when I see trucks approaching from the rear , When I see some where to pull over I use the blinkers to pull over and let them pass , I would never take the responsible to instruct someone to overtake I feel that the overtakers choice not mine
I'm with you brickies, any truck behind me will have much better long range vision as he sits much higher so it's his decision. I do the same re increasing to speed limit if a truck seen approaching from rear and then pull over. Just commen sense/courtesy.
Denis
You have the wrong slant guys, the radio is not used to direct, simply to inform.
Oxley said
07:24 PM May 16, 2013
I can't say I've noticed this behavior in motorhome and caravan drivers etc, defiantly in 4WD owners on back roads, the more of the ARB catalog they have bolted to their "rig" the more they seem to expect others to give way to them.
Santa said
07:39 PM May 16, 2013
Oxley wrote:
I can't say I've noticed this behavior in motorhome and caravan drivers etc, defiantly in 4WD owners on back roads, the more of the ARB catalog they have bolted to their "rig" the more they seem to expect others to give way to them.
Perhaps if you haven't noticed it your one of them.
Cupie said
07:58 PM May 16, 2013
Santa wrote:
Oxley wrote:
I can't say I've noticed this behavior in motorhome and caravan drivers etc, defiantly in 4WD owners on back roads, the more of the ARB catalog they have bolted to their "rig" the more they seem to expect others to give way to them.
Perhaps if you haven't noticed it your one of them.
Tut Tut .. Not nice Santa ...
BTW Can't say that I have noticed it to any extent either .. except maybe on single lane western roads. In those cases I get off the road as early as I can & slow right down ... They can have the road & my stones too.
Santa said
08:03 PM May 16, 2013
Seriously, anyone who does not notice this driving behavior needs to brush up on their powers of observation, it's a very real safety issue.
Santa said
08:06 PM May 16, 2013
Cupie wrote:
Perhaps if you haven't noticed it your one of them.
Tut Tut .. Not nice Santa ...
Nor are head on collisions Cupie.
hako said
04:52 AM May 17, 2013
Santa wrote:
hako wrote:
brickies wrote:
I took a radio with us on one trip and never used it to direct anybody , I travel at 90 t0 95 kph on major Highways but increase to 100kph when I see trucks approaching from the rear , When I see some where to pull over I use the blinkers to pull over and let them pass , I would never take the responsible to instruct someone to overtake I feel that the overtakers choice not mine
I'm with you brickies, any truck behind me will have much better long range vision as he sits much higher so it's his decision. I do the same re increasing to speed limit if a truck seen approaching from rear and then pull over. Just commen sense/courtesy.
Denis
You have the wrong slant guys, the radio is not used to direct, simply to inform.
With due respect Santa, no one said the radio was used to direct - that was why I agreed with brickies post.
Santa said
05:28 PM May 17, 2013
hako wrote:
I took a radio with us on one trip and never used it to direct anybody ,
I would never take the responsible to instruct someone to overtake I feel that the overtakers choice not mine
With due respect Santa, no one said the radio was used to direct - that was why I agreed with brickies post.
The above statements imply that I'm suggesting UHF be used to direct traffic.
In fact no mention has been made about the subject prior to these posts.
herbie said
08:56 PM May 17, 2013
In WA the law on towing states.
Legal speed limit outside of builtup area ,unless other wise sign posted for a towing vehicle is 100 kilometers per hr.
So if a speed sign reads 110klm per hr it is stll 100klms for towing.But may be signed at 80klms on a 100klm road . Also a good idea to check your speed rating on your vans tires.
Best advice is to drive to conditions.
-- Edited by herbie on Friday 17th of May 2013 09:16:21 PM
Cupie said
01:50 AM May 18, 2013
spida wrote:
Is 90km the legal limit for all states when towing a van??
No.
I think that you will find that it is the posted speed limit.
Mike C said
02:06 AM May 18, 2013
My comment was based on Suzuki GV handbook statement that you must not exceed 90k when flat towing behind a motor home.
The situation has been the same since cars were invented....anyone traveling slower than us is a 'road hog'...anyone going faster than us is a 'damn fool maniac heading for his own funeral"!
Towing limit in WA is 100kph
This is the speed I usually tow our 18'6" tandem van as that is the most economical speed. This is flat ground, of which there is plenty in WA and little wind of course.
The important thing is to drive to your capabilities and to road conditions.
Lance this is 2013, you even get this language on TV nowadays.
Had to smile at your words
"wife ,or lady friend,sitting beside them must not have any respect for them what so ever,the language on the truck channel is unsuitable for my wife"
Very quaint in this day and age.
I always try to keep the speed down to 90km/hr. It tends to drift up towards 100 but I correct as soon as possible. No cruise control on the Old manual Patrol .. does have hand throttle though but haven't used that for obvious reasons. I suppose that I float between 85 & 95, except on long hills of course.
I keep the speed down for fuel economy, reduced wear & tear on vehicle & driver, and reduced risk of & in accidents.
It is my habit to use pullover areas & passing lanes et. al. to let any build up pass where it's safe to do so but I don't get unduly worried about them. I found out early on that what ever reckless speed you choose to do there will soon be a queue up of idiots wanting to pass at well over the speed limit, often with vans attached. Where I can see trucks approaching & the conditions are good, I often gradually increase to 100.
As for ch40- ... forget it in the city areas ... I can't imagine anyone with ladies or children in the vehicle tuning to it. The language is disgusting. If the city truckies really wanted to talk to caravanners on that channel I'm sure that they would moderate their language. I must say that out of city areas that channel is quite good. On rare occasions I have spoken to truckies on ch40 & their response has been good. They usually advise me to hold my line & speed & they will determine when it is safe & possible for their rig to pass.
I carry a fixed UHF & two HandHelds. One HH roaming, the fixed one on ch40 & one HH on ch18. The ch40 one is turned off if we encounter any of foul mouthed variety.
ps. Where there is a center line the RH edge of the bull bar is visually aligned with it. This keeps me around center lane. The LH magnifying mirror shows me the position of the wheels in relation to the road edge or marked lane if any. After a while you do this automatically without even concentrating.
Cant imagine why anyone would want to use a UHF CB in the city anyway, the primary use is highway travel.
We travel at 90km and we never go over it, why should we? We are not in a race to get from A to B in the shortest time possible. We want to see it all and enjoy our travel.
As for the truckers, Les is a trucker and envies the travellers. He is very polite and will not hurry them, as some will. There are a lot of great truckers out there.
But I must say I have seen some cars doing exactly what you are complaining about Santa, so it's just not caravaners.
Later we saw him stopped along with another vehicle that he had obviously sideswiped. The police were in attendance and we weren't too surprised after what we had seen.
It also needs to be remembered that there are certain sections of roads where pulling over to let others through is not possible and we also need to ensure that we can do so safely.
100 or 100 is the maximum xpeed limit, unless in NT, and it does not mean that we all have to aspire to that.
Courtesy should be the catch phrase along with safety.
Di
I am to old to change I will stick with RESPECT and bring the grand kids up the same way.
Lance C
Spida, I believe the limit is the posted speed limit except in WA where it is 100 kmh if you are towing(unless a lower limit is posted).
frank
-- Edited by KFT on Sunday 12th of May 2013 10:59:13 PM
It's vital you are always aware of what is going on behind your. Small cars, motor bikes, big trucks or bigger oversize trucks.
Even oversize convoys will pull over when it's safe, to let the traffic build up go through. It's a courtesy.
Now to the CB. It's a vital tool for the traveller to keep in touch with fellow road-users, and to communicate when and if possible.
To call up a truck behind you, just call, "Truck, or Kenworth behind Coramel caravan, do you have a copy?"
The truck driver or pilot may respond, "Copy."
Then just advise of your average travelling speed and your intentions in regards to allowing the traffic to pass or turning off the highway.
eg. "Eastbound Coramel travelling at 85 to 90 kph, and will pull over when it's safe to do so."
On most occasions the truck driver will be relieved to be acknowledged, that you've even seen them in the mirrors, and will be happy to wait to overtake when it's safe.
Oversize is a similar situation. Just be patient if you are behind, and they will be patient if they are behind you, IF you are travelling as close as possible to the fog line, NOT the centre white line.
Get off the centre white line. Never ride the white line, ever, please! It makes every motorist's life difficult.
As for the language on the CB, the truck drivers travelling in opposite directions only have a 2 minute window in which to "shoot the breeze" and say "g'day", or to advise of weighbridge or Police activity.
The cities are where the "CB Pests" hog the airwaves in the most offensive manner for many hours. It's best to shut down.
So I wish you many happy kms on our highways, wherever you go.
See you out there somewhere.
Well said Granny, excellent advice.
I'm with you brickies, any truck behind me will have much better long range vision as he sits much higher so it's his decision. I do the same re increasing to speed limit if a truck seen approaching from rear and then pull over. Just commen sense/courtesy.
Denis
Just remember if you ever get into trouble out on some of the out back roads,i guarantee a truckie will always stop and lend a hand, when others will just drive by, and these men have timeslots to make for people like us to keep us fed, deliver that new van,tug ,yes and even your toilet paper.If you recon truckies speed up on overtaking lanes, well thats not posible in most cases as they are speed limited, so maybe a good idea to check your speedo.Spare a thought for the truckie when next you see someone hugging that white line or some other stupi.d in front of a truck just how hard he will have to work to avoid killing you or the other person/ people, with 60 t to pull up or even more on some of the bigger road trains up north. These guys are highly skilled drivers that don't go on the road to harm anyone. They are just doing a job delivering in most cases our daily needs. and want to return home to their loved ones. I recon most are highway angles not devils.
The RAA said I had major problems with my car, after he checked everything. He towed me into town and when I managed to call my husband to come get me, he found the battery terminal cable had come loose. He tightened it and I never had a problem since....
I have heaps of respect for truckers, and for that particular truckie that helped me out of a problem. To him thank you.
dibs
You have the wrong slant guys, the radio is not used to direct, simply to inform.
I can't say I've noticed this behavior in motorhome and caravan drivers etc, defiantly in 4WD owners on back roads, the more of the ARB catalog they have bolted to their "rig" the more they seem to expect others to give way to them.
Perhaps if you haven't noticed it your one of them.
Tut Tut .. Not nice Santa ...
BTW Can't say that I have noticed it to any extent either .. except maybe on single lane western roads. In those cases I get off the road as early as I can & slow right down ... They can have the road & my stones too.
Seriously, anyone who does not notice this driving behavior needs to brush up on their powers of observation, it's a very real safety issue.
Nor are head on collisions Cupie.
With due respect Santa, no one said the radio was used to direct - that was why I agreed with brickies post.
In WA the law on towing states.
Legal speed limit outside of builtup area ,unless other wise sign posted for a towing vehicle is 100 kilometers per hr.
So if a speed sign reads 110klm per hr it is stll 100klms for towing.But may be signed at 80klms on a 100klm road . Also a good idea to check your speed rating on your vans tires.
Best advice is to drive to conditions.
-- Edited by herbie on Friday 17th of May 2013 09:16:21 PM
No.
I think that you will find that it is the posted speed limit.
cheers
Mike